2025 Grammy Award REACTIONS

[00:00:17] What's up, fam? Welcome to Recap Kickback. It's me, your host, Chappelle, and this is the podcast where we talk about Black movies, entertainment, television, music, and wherever else I want to talk about. As you know, the Grammys just happened last night. It was a crazy night, and for you, I am going to be bringing you Grammy Award 2025 reactions right here to Recap Kickback. But I cannot do this alone. So with me, I've assembled a panel of people that I kind of like talking to about music every now and then.

[00:00:47] First up, my first guest here, a person who knows a lot about the Grammys, a lot about some of these songs, a lot about these artists and somebody that I've known for a very long time. It's Lex. Welcome, Lex. Thank you. Thank you, brother. Thank you for having me. I am happy to be on the Recap Kickback. It's about time. It is about time. We've been trying to get me on for some time, but I'm glad you got me for this. So happy to be here. Listen, we were going to have this conversation anyway about the Grammys, so I figured why not record it?

[00:01:17] Another person that I like to talk to about music and all things Grammy-nominated and Grammy-related is my good friend Jackie. Jackie, what's up? Hey, friend. I can't believe you got me on a podcast right now. It needed to happen. It needed to happen because here's the thing.

[00:01:34] Every time one of these shows happens, whether it's an award ceremony, the Kennedy Center Honors, whatever it is, if you got people performing music, the three of us are going to have some type of conversation in some shape, form, or fashion, whether it's text message, separate phone calls, whatever. And so as a content creator, why am I leaving money on the table like this? Okay, we're going to make this thing work and I'm going to exploit y'all and y'all's opinions for personal gain. Not you using me for labor for free.

[00:02:03] Absolutely. That's what friends are for. And so for the people who are not familiar with Recap Kickback, we normally talk about movies and TV. We talk about several different topics over the years. This is our year anniversary. February has been one year of Recap Kickback content. And so we're switching things up and doing stuff a little differently by talking about the Grammy Awards right after the show is aired. So we're recording this right after our opinions are fresh.

[00:02:28] Lex, Lex, tell everybody, what did you think overall about the awards though? I think this was probably one of the best Grammys I've seen in a hot minute. Probably one of my favorite segments was all the best new artists segment. I was like, they need to do that every year now just so people can get a feel of all the new artists coming out.

[00:02:52] So if they can keep doing that every year and then, I mean, this is probably one of their most diverse. Grammys in a while. So I was pleasantly entertained throughout the entire show. Yeah, me too. I was watching it thinking I'm waiting on the thing I can complain about. You know, it's not that I was looking for it, but normally we'll be watching something and be like, oh, I really care for that too much. I really like that part. Or maybe this person's performance wasn't up to snuff.

[00:03:21] But Jackie, for the most part, I have very minimal complaints here. This was pretty good. Oh, I got a complaint. Listen, Mr. Delmonet. Oh, hold on. Now we could definitely nitpick some things and I got some with Janelle. But just me overall. How was your enjoyment of the Grammys in relation to other Grammys that we've watched recently? No, I would like. I thought this was one of the better ones. Honestly, most of the mics were on.

[00:03:49] They had a good roundup of performers this year. I kind of wasn't side-eyeing anybody too much. And honestly, the categories were so stacked with good songs that I didn't feel anything was upset either. Although, again, Kendrick Lamar taking those categories wasn't on my bingo card. Not at all. Yeah, that was definitely a surprise. But it was good. Yeah, I completely disagree. I knew that was coming a mile away because we'll get to it.

[00:04:17] But, I mean, Kendrick Lamar had a hell of a night. There were so many big moments, some historic moments as well. I feel like we have to start with the biggest story of the night. Beyonce has won Album of the Year for the first time for Cowboy Carter. I have... First of all, I'm very happy for B. But I do kind of have some mixed feelings about this one.

[00:04:43] Because to me, Lex, it feels like she kind of deserved this one for some other ones. You know what I'm saying? This feels like a hair damn, you know, like, okay, take it kind of Grammy. Don't disrespect. But I just feel like if you was going to give her one, it could have happened prior to this. That's all I'm saying, Lex. And I definitely agree with that. And it's probably because, you know, her husband got on stage and basically called out everybody last Grammys.

[00:05:13] Saying, you know, basically telling everybody that they're not good enough to be winning or not as talented as his wife to win Album of the Year. And to be frank, I honestly believe Renaissance was the better album. And that should have gotten her the Album of the Year award. Because people was playing that album out. I mean, honestly, if I go back to an album, it's going to be Renaissance over Cowboy Carter. Not saying that the album was not a great piece of work.

[00:05:42] I mean, she brought in a lot of different artists, as she normally does whenever she does these collaborations. And it was a good country-esque album. And I will be getting my coins together for this tour that she announced. So, again, yeah, like, kudos to Beyonce for finally getting the Album of the Year award. It was long overdue. But she had other projects that deserved it more.

[00:06:13] Yeah. Jack, do you feel the same? Yeah. I feel wrong saying this, but that's actually not who I was pulling for this year to win that category. I'm not going to say I thought, because, again, it was such a stacked category. I really don't know either way. But I was kind of pushing for Billie. It was a really solid body of work.

[00:06:39] But, honestly, again, I don't think I would have been upset either way. I was surprised. But to your point, it did kind of feel like a Here, Girl, Damn type of award. But I know she worked hard on it. I just... Renaissance should have been that album. And I remember last year when it happened, or year before, last year? Last year. Last year. Was that when she lost against Harry Styles, which is also, like, another good album.

[00:07:06] But I'm still listening to Renaissance front-to-back today. I listened to Cowboy Carter. It was, like, amazing production. Like, the way that the album is laid out and everything is, like, stunning. But I have not listened to that album front-to-back since I listened to it when it came out. And so, for that reason, yeah. Well, here are the pros that I could put in that category.

[00:07:30] For Cowboy Carter, to me, it got people listening to country music that never listened to country music before. So, number one, I'm going to give it that. You know, I know people who I couldn't pay to listen to country music, who now will go and listen to certain artists because Beyonce put them on. You know, the list of the names that were on the album to Lexpoint, all the features and stuff like that, it really did kind of drag you into this other genre, kicking and screaming, because you support Beyonce.

[00:07:59] And so, when you come over there, and then the quality is so good. She's so polished. She's not going to release nothing that's kind of half-assed. So, it's like, it was always going to be a good album. The debate really started to come in was, is it country or is it just, you know, like, some type of blend? But she made a good point tonight. She talks about how genres are really, like, the industry's way of kind of putting you in a box and keeping you in your lane. And I'll give her that because I was really ready to complain about Post Malone getting another award.

[00:08:29] Like, I was about to be mad about the country award for Posty because he'd be collecting them from all the genres. But I'll give her what she said. I think she's, I think there's a point to what she said, Lex. Because now that she has broken out of her R&B, you know, her origins, she's making country music and winning album of the year. I mean, obviously, people talk highly of Renaissance. She can do it all. I don't know this. I know the CMAs are sick.

[00:08:56] The last, the Grammys done, the game of her, multiple awards. She did a whole, she shut down Christmas, a whole football game on Netflix. And people watch that game or halftime just to see Beyonce. And they about to pay this money for this tour. So I know they sick. The only, the only thing I wish is, I wish Shibuzi would have left with at least something. Yeah.

[00:09:21] Because he, that, that song, Tipsy, that, that song was, when he was performing that song, the entire crowd, just like, not like us, they were saying the words, they were saying the exact same words to his song as well. So I feel like he, he deserves something. Not like a, just like a, how they did Frankie Beverly and all them. And they just gave them the, some, like here, you know, post-Methius, here's a Grammy, Roxanne Shante.

[00:09:48] But Shibuzi deserves some kind of credit outside of, you know, Billboard charts for his extremely successful hit that he pushed out last year that everybody was singing. Yeah, you're right. Because the CMA is playing in his face too. I ain't forget about that. You know, Shibuzi, hey man, Shibuzi had the charts by storm. And I think you're right. I think if not for not like us, that is your runaway song of the year. I mean, it was everywhere.

[00:10:14] Like you said, the whole crowd was rocking, but we got to talk about not like us. You know, this made my heart smile. Maybe I'm a demon. Maybe I'm the, am I the drama? Am I the drama that I just thoroughly enjoyed? Jack, don't want me on the journey. You are the drama. You are the drama. In this period, you are. You are. This man, this man had the entire Academy in there chanting, A minor.

[00:10:49] Oh my gosh. God. If I was Drake, I would just leave. I don't know where to go though, but I would leave. Jackie, the impact of this song being a diss track that turned into, basically that swept the categories that it was nominated for. I think he left with four Grammys for not like us, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Crazy. Crazy.

[00:11:15] What do you think about Kendrick's new resurgence into popular media as he goes on to perform this at the Super Bowl literally next week? You know the girls love drama. Oh. People love drama. I just, why? First of all, one of the like complaints about Kendrick Lamar when it was about the Drake thing was like, well, he ain't got no club songs. And then he was like, well, I got you twofold. Like I'm gonna do a diss song and it's a club song.

[00:11:44] And immediately, I think the night that Not Like Us dropped, they started playing it in different clubs and we started getting clips on social media and then they had like people covering it on the platform. This was within like four hours of the song dropping and it has lost no speed since he dropped it. Remember that Amazon thing where he performed it like five times back to back? Five times. Best day ever. Best day ever. The pop out was so live. You are the drama, but you're not wrong.

[00:12:18] It's bad too because Drake is a Grammy darling. You know, he is a person that if he released something, you can pretty much stick a Grammy on it. Drake is like one of these, one of these mega stars that we have like Taylor Swift, Beyonce, where they're walking away with, you know, nine, 10 Grammy nominations in like in one sitting, right? They might win two or three, but they coming out of the game with, you know, 20, 30 Grammys at the end of the day. Like this is crazy.

[00:12:44] And for essentially that them to all turn on him like this, you know, because they kept reminding us. This is a, these are his peers, the Academy. What is it? 13,000 people voting for whatever for these 13,000 people said, turn up that diss track. This man is a pedophile ex. Ain't that what the song say? It is what it says. And then Kendrick also, he's tied.

[00:13:11] Well, he's right behind Kanye and Jay-Z with number of Grammys now. He's at 20. Ooh. Nice. Okay. Listen, legendary status there. Can we talk about Kanye West, please? Um, you know, we got it. I'm tired. But you know, the pettiness, the pettiness in this, we got to talk about him. We got to talk about him. Okay. Fine. Fine. Y'all wins. We got to talk about him and her though.

[00:13:41] You don't just talk about him. We have to talk about him and his wife. Like they're a unit and I'm tired of them. Yeah. So I saw on Blue Sky today that Kanye posted on his Instagram story that he only follows one person on Instagram. I would like for you to guess who that person is. It's a person, not a page. It's a person. It's a person. Kim.

[00:14:12] You got what? Kim? What about you, Jack? You got a guess? Travis Scott. It's Taylor Swift. This man posted on his Instagram page. Goddamn trauma. You lying. After he showed his ass. We never forget him for that. We just don't know how to stop. And then of course we have to talk about him and his wife showing up to the Grammy Awards

[00:14:38] uninvited and getting escorted out while wearing clothes. No, not clothes. Yeah. What would you describe this outfit as, Jackina? Listen, I know that she was trying to get her like sheer mesh party dress situation going on. But like we saw her front of her peg and it was giving like pasty flat pancake. Like it wasn't even flattering. It wasn't even stunning. Like why we do this?

[00:15:07] I feel like she's being held against her will and he just sat it on the bed and was like, this is what you're wearing. And she was like, okay. No one can tell me that she has been wearing this shit voluntarily. You don't think she did this on purpose? I think he did it on purpose. I think she in a cult. It's a cult of two, but I think she in it. There's something wrong. It's just something, something wrong. If it had been cute, you know, I can get behind something naked if it's cute. He gave you nothing.

[00:15:37] I did nothing. Yeah. And then you got escorted out. Yeah. The escorted out part is really ghetto. I mean, because think about it. You had no business being there. And then on top of that, you showed up scantily clad in something that, you know, I personally think is like a choice. You know, I'm not a fashionista of any type myself, but I definitely would wear more clothes. You know, I would try to wear a little bit, a little more, but to show up and to be naked

[00:16:06] and also unwanted. You know, to walk Kanye West out of the Grammys legs really feels like sacrilege because he has been one of the people, like you said, has collected some of the most Grammys over the years. Kanye has, in recent years, been showing his ass. I mean, and, you know, yes, we can say he's a genius. Yes, we can say all these things, but he's also very narcissistic.

[00:16:37] And you see that in all his relationships, you see a pattern. And the problem is mostly him. Like, I mean, that's, with his rants on, my young heart, my young heart is still grieving over the Kanye that we grew up with. Like, and I'm kind of going through that same process with Drake. Like, it's many of our favorites.

[00:17:06] I mean. Okay, don't be rude to Drake. He can probably have a comeback. Maybe, possibly. No, but, but. Look at that. There it is. I knew I could find this thing. Look at that. That just looks out. All that money. All this money to buy garments, to buy adornments. And then you come out with this. And then you come out with something that smashes your ass down. Like, girl, it's not even cute.

[00:17:33] Like, he couldn't even, he, she couldn't even give us, like, Rihanna. Like, when, because Rihanna did, had, had the, the do-rag with the crystals. Yeah, I remember that. The do-rag, yeah. He didn't even give us a little Kim at MTV Musical Awards in 2001. Like, he, I just, I, cause I know he picked the outfit. We know he picked the outfit. He absolutely did. We know he picked the outfit. Cause even with the, the, I don't even keep up. Cause I didn't even know he was married to this woman.

[00:18:02] But I, I remember the last woman he was dating. She had, she just looked like she was, uh, cosplaying as a black widow. Oh, gee. Every runway. Okay. Yeah. The, this is tough because, you know, again, we come here to talk about the Grammys, but it's like, you can't talk about the Grammys without talking about Kanye. Cause he always going to make it about him. And so we really did have to stop down and discuss what the hell was happening with Kanye West.

[00:18:26] But this was a night to celebrate LA and to celebrate California in the wake of the traumatic wildfires. And so, uh, you know, thoughts and prayers to all those people affected. Hopefully some of the money that was raised on tonight's, uh, production will go and help these people. Millions of dollars raised just from the viewing audience at home, making donations and, you know, hopefully a lot more money from the people inside the building too, who had, you know, a little bit more means to give. Um, but this was pretty cool.

[00:18:56] Trevor Noah is hosting again for a fifth straight time or something like that. Crazy. And really just highlighting. And I think a lot of the artists did really just took the time to highlight LA. It really felt like a love letter to LA, uh, in a lot of ways because there was so much Hollywood glam. I can't, I was trying to put myself back in the mindset of like, okay, what were the Grammys like prior? And I just don't remember so many like, uh, you know, uh, tales and tap dancing and, you

[00:19:25] know, it came like, like homages to the, uh, to the old days. Right. Cause even, I mean, you want to talk about Sabrina Carpenter, right. Amazing performance straight out the gate. Um, she's giving like the Ginger Rogers type of vibe, right. Oh, Hollywood coming down the stairs, tap dancing. I don't think she was actually tap dancing, but you know what I'm saying? It was giving the tap dancing vibe. Jagina, I think this might've been one of my favorite performances of the night. What'd you think about Sabrina?

[00:19:54] Um, it was cute. I liked the comedy that was in it. I thought, you know, like the, the door falling down and the dust are going over people's heads and everything was, was really cute. It gave it a little edge and it made the crowd laugh and it wasn't so serious. Um, I think what you were talking about with, you know, people's performances, I think we're seeing a resurgence of talent in mainstream. I think we have been like complaining for a while. Like, where's the talent?

[00:20:24] Like, I know, I know somebody that I can go listen to on Spotify that has a thousand followers, but like these people have millions of followers. They're not giving me performance. The mic is not on and all of that. And I think this year, you know, it was a reflection of last year of artists coming back to respect, you know, people who came before them to pay homage, to pull some of that into their performance. Um, and really show that they're worth all of this attention and the awards and everything.

[00:20:51] So from Sabrina down, I thought it was just, you know, refreshing to see people, you know, giving effort. Or I like, you know, what we were saying is feeling like one of the better ones. The performances just felt good. Normally I have a list of people where I'm like, we didn't need that. That was terrible. Like they, they should have used auto tune. Like, why did they do that? But today for the most part, um, even the weekend, I was like, okay, weekend, you can give me voice lessons. His mic was on. Yeah. I didn't, I didn't hate it.

[00:21:19] I appreciated it. Now part Playboy Carney, he could have stayed, uh, off stage. He could have just stayed where he was at. I was a kid. They could have just used his voiceover because that's all he did. He didn't sing it. He didn't sing it at all. I do like that song though. But look, yeah, the performances, I think were very good. I mean, we come out the gate with the doors or, or doors, I'm sorry. Uh, raising money, uh, for the affected families of the wildfires.

[00:21:44] Uh, you know, immediately we're getting songs like I love LA and things of that nature really showing like, Hey, we're going to pay homage to, you know, this area, Hollywood itself, the, you know, the music industry and, you know, the people who are affected by the wildfires. Cause a lot of those people are in that very room, you know? Uh, and so Lex, I know you were happy to see Brittany Howard out here on the guitar. Look, I love Brittany. I love Brittany Howard down, um, her album.

[00:22:13] I don't, I don't, I don't think she won anything tonight. I, I, I'm kind of sad about it, but as soon as I found out about the nominations, matter of fact, me and Jack talked about the nominations. I saw she dropped the album. I listened to it immediately and it's been in my rotation, uh, since, since it dropped as a real good project, but she always, I mean, she, her mic is always on her guitar. She always riffing that guitar, doing the things.

[00:22:40] Um, so I was just happy to see her, um, just getting some spotlight today, tonight or last night. Yeah. She was killing it. She was killing it. That was a crazy. It was, it reminded me of one of those, the voice performances, Jackena, where they got this person, this person, this person, this person, they all playing an instrument and singing their one little part. Uh, cause we had what John legend on the keys. Sheryl Crow was on the bass. This was pretty cool. I also liked the, uh, yeah.

[00:23:11] Oh yeah. I, so I, I read an article somewhere about Sheryl Crow in the bass. Uh, like something like it's her muse, you know, like that's apparently that's a big thing for her. I haven't seen Sheryl like that in recent years. So I didn't know that she'd be getting out there like that, but you make a good point. Uh, it was cool seeing them all in their elements, you know, playing the guitar, playing, you know, the, the piano. And you're right. It does feel like there's a level of talent that has come back to the stage.

[00:23:36] Cause for a minute, I don't want to, I'm not trying to pick on nobody for a minute. We were getting a lot of the same talkers, you know, the, the, you know, we were making up categories for people, contemporary RNB spoken word topic. It's like, Hey, Hey, where are the singers? You know? And I think for me, it really feels like the singers are back. And if not the singers, at least AI, I mean, the Beatles are out here winning Grammys too. Jack, you checked out this song though, right? I think I texted you about it earlier.

[00:24:05] I was like, you know, that ain't too bad. Um, it, it ride nice in the car. Um, I think it's cool for people to be finding, especially groups have been at it for that long to be finding ways to like reinvent themselves and to experience new technology and bring it into their art form. Like the Beatles don't have to prove themselves to anybody. They can do whatever the hell they want. So if they want to make a song with AI, they can. And for it to come out to be actually something that's like listenable and make you kind of, you know, do you, I was like, okay, Beatles. Mm. Yeah.

[00:24:35] I think they, they don't want Drake catching their record too much. And so they got to stay in the, you know, they got to whack them again for me. Beatles, whack them, get them, get them, get them one more time. You know, he's not getting too close. We got to shut this man down. Lex, we had some great performances. What would you say your favorite performance of the night was? Oh, that's a tough one. Um, probably Dolce. Mm. Dolce's probably, I mean, Dolce has just been on a run.

[00:25:04] Um, and she, even with her tiny disc, like this, um, I'm taken away by her breath control. How she's able to just, even the songs that she, that she recorded, how she's able to change it up. And then she's always going to give us visuals. Um, and I'm glad she was able to perform on that big of a stage. So people, she could put on notice that she's here. Um, and her winning best rap album, the sky's the limit.

[00:25:31] And like she said, it's only three, three women since 1989 has won that award. That is crazy work. Cause you got to think of all the, all the amazing female MCs we've seen. It's just that timeframe, like Queen Latifah has never won it. Yeah. Foxy, Nikki. I mean, Kim, uh, Eve, you know, Trina. Yeah. Um, so I mean, that's just a name, you know, just a name of you.

[00:26:00] So I was just, I was glad to see Dolce get that shine that she deserves. Um, cause she, I mean, she, that project was amazing. I remember talking to Jack about it. Like, I was like, you need to listen to this. You need to listen to this. But actually Jack put me on, she put me on Dolce. Um, cause I heard Alter Ego and I was like, yeah, let me go ahead and run this. Let me go ahead and run this in the crowd. The Caternata. That's. Yeah. That's another person.

[00:26:29] But anyway, but yeah, I was, Dolce is probably one of my favorites. Like just the visuals, seeing all that black people in braids, the black women in braids. And I love how she's been doing that in her past few performances and doing like that school, schoolyard kind of performance and just bringing us to the, to the, on a global platform. So she's got a signature Dolce clones that she'd be using, you know, like they all look the same. They all do the, you know, and the, and the choreography is crazy. I liked it.

[00:26:58] Cause it looked like she was sitting up on top of like a DJ mix table when, uh, when she was coming down on that little stage. And then they had the conveyor belt doing the things. No, I appreciated that. And she too broke into some of that Hollywood style, you know, uh, you know, um, old Hollywood thirties type vibe, even though she was wearing like her underwear. Yeah. Well, it was an interesting dichotomy going on. Yeah. It was, that was interesting. Yeah. Yeah. It was a choice, but she ends up shifting to denial as a river.

[00:27:27] And I love that song, but this, this woman wins rap album of the year over some of probably like some legendary rappers, right? Like this is not just any, like it's a good, a big award to win in general, but I mean, she's in there with Common and Eminem, you know, and honestly, I ain't gonna lie to you. When I saw Eminem was nominated, I was like, oh, they're not gonna give it to Dolce because you know how they like Eminem, you know? I didn't have a doubt about her.

[00:27:57] Actually, I think in our group chat, I put, I think like Doshi, I think she'll take it. I think also we're seeing clever marketing come back, um, in artists. And so even though that Eminem track, like it had a little bit of hype going on, Doshi for months now has been from her live TV shows, from that kind of skit show that she did that

[00:28:22] she had put on her Instagram, um, that thing she just did with Issa Rae, like that generates interest in, you know, you as an artist. It makes people be like, hey, like someone's doing something interesting and they're not just putting something on the table and being like, here, come get your food. It's no, this is a well-packaged thing that I'm delivering to you piece by piece. And I want you to get into everything. Like it's very well thought out.

[00:28:49] So I think we're starting to see, Doja Cat does that as well. I think it's another artist who does kind of like a thoughtful delivery. I'm still mad about last year about her, but. Oh boy. But no, I think artists who do that, they give it to you. Yeah. Go ahead, Lex. Get on your cell box, Lex. I just, Doja, so as far as rap, Doja had, had the best rap album last year for me.

[00:29:14] Um, overall, just the, the visuals, the, the flows, the production, like she was just giving us bars the entire album. And I just hate that she just, she just does not get the, she did not get the respect that she deserved last year. Um, so I thought that same thing was going to happen this year for Doja because she was like every song, uh, you know, boom, back.

[00:29:42] That's my, I know Jack, that's not one of Jack's favorites, but then boom, back. Come on. I'm rapping word for word. Nissan ultimate. I'm a Nissan ultimate guy. I'm a Nissan ultimate guy. Yeah. But that's the line. Yeah. But the whole album, like she gave us, she gave like, Don't you gave us so many different flows. She, she was, she, she went old school with the, with the hip hop, like eighties. Then she went to her nineties flow.

[00:30:10] Then she was mimicking Kendrick and some of it. I was just like, there's, there's nobody, nobody did it like her for that category. Um, so, uh, I would have been, I would have been shook, but not surprised if Don't she did win, but I'm glad that she won it because she deserves. Yeah. Jack, what was the standout performance for you of the night? Uh, I know you had big feelings about Janelle Monae. Jesus. Okay.

[00:30:38] So that stood out for not the reasons that I wanted it to, um, on the positive side, I think Don't She and I would say the weekend, not because of that thing, but I like artists who use a lot of dancers for visuals who, and the little, I don't know, leather glove, not leather, but like latex glove, body glove dancers that the weekend had. It was a very cool effect. I like people who use the whole stage.

[00:31:06] Um, and so I thought it was interesting. Like I said, I was kind of rocking with it. So like where Kari came on, but before that I was like, okay. Um, and I really liked Doji's performance as well, but that entire segment of new artists, they were singing, right? His mic was on, Teddy Swims, Mike was on. Yeah. Boom. Benson, let Benson cook. He pulled out that ice skater outfit and came down. It was like, look at me. First of all, I'm going to eat.

[00:31:36] I'm going to eat down. The spirit of Freddie Mercury. The spirit of Freddie, Jack. You can't. He had the hair. He was ready to go. He was ready to go. Chapel Rhone. I thought it was so cute. Her little pink pony club thing that she was, it was so cute. Um, I honestly didn't have a lot of bad performances and I really didn't have a criticism until we got to Quincy Jones. Okay. So here's when I'd be sitting at home, like I could have wrote this and it would have been better.

[00:32:05] It would have been better. All of the hits that Quincy Jones has that are recognizable or whatever. We really just could have did a montage. I'm talking about Broadway dancers coming out. The thing's rolling. Okay. I appreciated Stevie Wonder, his accomplishments, but we didn't need him singing. We are the world. But the harmonica was. The harmonica was fine. He keeping the harmonica industry on lock because I like to object. It's just him. Terry. He's back.

[00:32:35] Okay. The foremost harmonica expert in the country is Stevie Wonder. Easily. We ain't gone. We ain't gonna have nobody. We ain't gonna have nobody left. But when they said Michael Jackson, we can't leave without Michael. Yes, you can. And they said Jennifer. I said, okay. There are a couple of ways this could go. But her coming out like that was not. Now for a minute, she was kind of dancing. She was dancing. But she wasn't singing. She was singing.

[00:33:05] But she should not have been. It was giving J-Lo. Huh. Then by the time she got on that table, I was like, oh, so this is just Janelle Monáe doing what Janelle Monáe does all the time. At home with her friends. And some loafers. Yeah. Because we took her Instagram. She be on the tables dancing to have naked all the time. So her taking off shit to dance is arm brand. Very. Yeah. Not disrespectful. I didn't need that for Quincy or for Michael. We didn't need that.

[00:33:33] I don't think this, I think they should have did a different song choice. Like, that was too high. It was a too high of a pitch. And we know Janelle normally doesn't stay high. If she was going to do a song like that, she should have did Rock With You. I'd have been concerned anyway. Lex, I mean, y'all give it her a lot. I just feel, you're right. Lex, okay. Here's the issue, Lex. To me, it's not that Janelle Monáe lacks any singing ability.

[00:34:02] Because she can sing. It's Michael, y'all. That's the problem. It's like people, the man makes it look easy. Him and Beyonce make you believe that you can sing. Because you hear them doing this stuff effortless. And you in your mind, in the shower, in the car, you're like, I too sound like that. But in reality, no, you do not. You do not sound like that. When him, because I think in the introduction for Janelle Monáe, he said, and this next song is going to be a thriller. And I touched my chest. I thought we was getting thriller. The dance.

[00:34:33] When I saw, it was PYT. Oh, I said, oh, okay. Somebody been able to do PYT better. The song twist was not the correct one. No. It was not. Yeah. Yeah. Tough, tough, tough for Janelle. You know. The dancing? The dancing, the dance was on point. I never, it looked like she was doing tightrope. That's, you know, like she was in her bag. She was in her bag.

[00:35:02] Dancing wise. But song suit, the mic could have been muted. The moonwalk eight. Oh yeah. I feel like they should have called Tiana Taylor and she should have did Lady in My Life. If we could just get people dancing without singing. Like play the track and give me Sierra and Tiana Taylor up there just going. And even you can let Briss do his thing. He can do some backflips in the background. But I think that there's a way you can do this tribute where it still pays homage to Michael,

[00:35:32] but you don't got nobody out there overextending themselves because everybody can't do it. They couldn't call. Like Usher was busy. Usher wasn't there. Bruno Mars was right there. Bruno was right there. Listen, I don't have faith in a lot of people, but the Lady in My Life, Bruno Mars singing it, anything off-thriller, I feel like, I'm not going to say he's going to sing it exact, but he would have been a good rendition. They could have done a little duel with Girl is Mine. Like, I don't know.

[00:36:02] Yeah. Bruno, I think Lucky Day was there. Lucky Day was in the building. Yeah. There are people who can do the vocal. It's really hard to do the vocal and the dancing. I think Bruno is probably a good shout usher as well as another one, you know, like that. You could think like, okay, I can see them up there dancing and doing the tribute. But it was all about Quincy. And I really enjoyed how they kind of took us through, you know, the levels. They started with the jazz. You know, of course, we got Stevie.

[00:36:30] We got the We Are The World. We got Michael. And we really paid homage to Quincy Jones as we remember, you know, one of the most iconic people in the music industry who's ever lived, ever. You know, and having Will Smith up there really got to set the tone for, you know, that kind of tribute. Because as we know, Quincy Jones, executive produced The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, gave him his start. So, you know, this is how, you know, the Grammys, I always look forward to it because it's one of those things where when you get to the in-memoriam section, you be like, damn, I forgot such and such died.

[00:37:00] I clutched my chest legs when Rich Homie popped up. Because I, you know. That was our entire collegiate. Bruh. Rich Homie. Rich Homie. Yeah. That one hurt. That one hurt. That one hurt. Frankie Beverly wasn't another one that popped up. Honestly, Liam Payne. Totally just like, you know, I put it in the back of my memory. And then when his face was the first one that popped up, Jack, I was like, damn. I don't even think I saw that.

[00:37:30] Like, you tell me now. He was the first. He was out the gate. The first. Yeah. You telling me now, I was like, oh, yeah. Like, damn. Like, we lost people last year. No. No. No. We lost some big names. Yeah. We lost. Like, over Frankie Beverly. We lost some big names. But we have. We have big names to still celebrate. As we were talking about in the Quincy Jones tribute, Herbie Hancock Astilia. We're here with us playing along and holding it down. We had Cynthia Erivo performing Frank Sinatra.

[00:38:00] This lady gets on my nerves because she is so talented. But it's just the comments that she be making about Black people. It really just kind of grinds my gears. It's like, AKA, get your girl. Get her. Talk to her. She, but she's been on a hell of a run. I can't, I can't deny her voice. I can't deny her singing abilities. Like, she has the soul. She has, she has the talent.

[00:38:29] She has the voice. I can't, I can never take that away from her. But like you said, Chap, she does say problematic things. Um, and she's also dating that problematic person. I want to be fair to her. I don't know if she's still saying things. She has said things. She has said things. Yeah. And it just bothers me that she always have herself all up in our Black American ass business.

[00:38:53] Like, girl, you had so much to say, but every time it's time to showcase your talent, you're doing it in a space or leveraging people who come from those that you was talking so much about. And I realized that she was younger or whatever, but it's just some people that you put your foot down on. And from that moment, I've been like, I don't give a damn how good you could say. I just, I don't like you. But she's been challenging me lately because I've been wanting to throw my shoe. She's doing this so good.

[00:39:24] And it's, I've been worn. I've been worn up in here. I've been like, we're not supposed to like this, but we like it. It sounds good. Yeah, she, she sounds good. Um, let's, let's talk about Bruno and Gaga. Okay. I thought we were going to get the other song. And we should have. And we, but, but California Dreamin', you know, good cause, the Mamas and the Papas.

[00:39:49] In my mind, my first thought was, yeah, I really could have let Queen Latifah sing this song. Queen got this on her Dana Owens album. And I was like, put her to work. But, um, Bruno and Gaga, what are you going to say? These are legendary musicians at the time. Like we think back to when they first dropped and we were like, oh, who are these new people? Right. Who are these pop singers? XYZ, Poker Face and whatnot. Just dance. You know, it was like, they were playing games back then. Lazy Song.

[00:40:17] These are some musical geniuses in front of us. And they are just killing the game to the point where Lady Gaga gives us the entire music video during the commercial break. Jackie. Jackie, talk about Mother Monster. The return of the struggle choreographer. First of all, when she came out with that red hat, I said, wait a minute. What? She's back. Let me. She's back.

[00:40:46] I started hyperventilating. I was just like, wait, wait. And then she came out in the white. And then the people started dancing. And I was like, oh, we got the boom cats back. The 5, 6, 7, 8. Yeah. It's time to learn choreography and go to the gay club and lay down. We was in there for like a minute and 30 seconds. I said, are we doing the whole video? The whole video. I don't deserve, I don't deserve what I do.

[00:41:15] And so I'm going to be watching it again. It's funny. Right when I get in the bed, I was like, let me go back. It was vintage Gaga. It felt like classic Lady Gaga. Damn romance. Yeah. Paparazzi. Because she can do it all. She really can. We've seen her do the jazz stuff. We've seen her. I mean, the stuff we should do with Tony Bennett. We've seen it. But to get back to that old, like, you know, just, man, this lady kind of weird, but it go music.

[00:41:44] Like, that's my Lady Gaga. Mother Monster is back in the house. What is it? Mayhem is the album? It's coming soon, right? I think so. But I think the track that the video was for Africa Debra. Yeah. That was my first time. That was my first time hearing it. And it's just like Jackie was saying. As soon as I saw the visuals, I was like, my girl was back. Like, that's the Gaga that we all fell in love with. Especially when Bad Romance came out.

[00:42:13] Like, that entire album, that solidified her as the artist. Like, yeah, Poker Face was cool. And, you know, was Acorn on that song? She did a feature with Acorn or something? He was on Just Dance. Yeah. Yeah, Just Dance. You know, like, those songs were cool. Like, la, la, la. But when that album came out. He said they do a little me and me around the house. Yeah. You know.

[00:42:41] But, but I remember, like, that entire run. And then she did Telephone with Beyonce. Like, and I'm still mad about part two. We never. They lied. They lied. I'm still mad about it. I don't. We're never getting it. I'm still mad about it. We're not getting it. And we're not getting it. We're not. We're not getting it. We're not getting a visual. We're not getting it. We're not getting the things, y'all. Y'all are enabling Beyonce. I don't know why he brought it up. Because that's the only way we want to discuss these types of things. Because then we're never going to see it. It's just me.

[00:43:13] I'm sorry. Y'all. I'm sorry for bringing up old wounds. I'm sorry, friends. The problem is that y'all be enabling Beyonce. Because that lady be like, I'm not going to give y'all what y'all want. Give me all y'all money. Y'all be like, okay. You know, like people are demanding the videos. No videos. And what she said, give me your money. Y'all say, okay. People demanding, demanding the next part. Give us part three. No, not yet. Give me your money. Give us telephone part two. No, give me your money. And everybody's like, throw the money at her. Here, here, Beyonce.

[00:43:42] Here, damn. Just giving her what she want. First of all, I want to say that every purchase that we make, we upset. We like, why you got your hand out? Like, ma'am, are you broke? Because why you got your money? Like, make no mistake. We are not handing it over all willy-nilly, okay? We like, girl, you need our help fine. Damn. Here. We'll help you do what you need to do. I mean, but she's been on a run. One day. We'll hold you down for now.

[00:44:12] How dare you turn that against us in this moment? Exactly. But she's been on a run. She's been on a run with her hand out, though. She has. She really has. She keep a hand out, okay? She keep a hand out. Lexi, your point about the Christmas performance. Did you see how she announced this tour? Netflix was like, hey, remember that Christmas performance? Go watch it again. Like, that's literally what they did. Because you know they were going to announce it during that performance. But due to the wildfires and stuff, she decided not to.

[00:44:40] So Netflix puts on Instagram, wouldn't it be crazy if y'all watched the Beyonce performance again? That's how they dropped it. Like, this lady was like, I'm not even going to give you a new rollout. Just go watch the old one. Like, we repurposed it. We just added a little tagline at the end. And that's how the album came out. This woman wants your money. She wants your time. She wants you to sell things. She wants to sell plasma, blood, whatever it takes to pay for her to make another album to ask you for more money. Because part three is coming. But that's why I'm enrolled in the Beehive Light Package.

[00:45:10] Because I only watched that show one time. But also, social media had the clips going for like four weeks. So I didn't need to go on. Exactly. Now, I do know other people who went and watched it immediately. Right after she got done doing it. But that's why I'm a Light Package holder. Because she's not taking all my time. She is taking my money. But my time belongs to me. Reclaim your time. Reclaim your time. I watch the clips on the Twitter. You know, or on the Blue Sky. Whenever.

[00:45:39] Because y'all go and y'all record it and stuff like that. And then I get to watch everybody on mute from the comfort of my house. And then I ain't got to worry about her saying, he ain't no diva because I'm at home. Okay? I get to see all the cool stuff up close. Because if I paid for my seats, I'd be sitting way in the top. I was going to miss all that anyway. So, you know. Good timing for Beyonce fans. Of course, she's coming off of these two big, massive wins here in the country category. And, of course, Album of the Year. Something she's never accomplished before. I want to talk about Billie Eilish.

[00:46:08] I feel like Billie was robbed a little bit. Like, don't get me wrong. There are definitely other artists that deserve these awards. I just feel like the Billie Eilish project this year was so good. And her performance, pretty much to open the show, where she comes out in her, like, vintage Billie Eilish, like, 2004 hip-hop goodwill hate-to-see-me-coming outfit. Lex, Billie's 23 years old, bro. She should not be this talented.

[00:46:38] If she would have came out in a South Pole or a Line 88 outfit, the airbrush, like, Tadman and Neville. The Echo Fat Farm. I just, I would have lost my shit. Because I would have been like, girl, what is she doing? Because I, but I agree with you, though. Like, Billie's album, we knew Billie's album.

[00:47:08] Like, she doesn't put out a bad project. Like, and Birds of a Feather, that was another song that was played, like. Mm-hmm. That's one of them ones. That's one of them ones. Like, it's just, it's just, it's just a feel-good song. Her, her and her brother, Phineas, they, I'm trying to think. They're like, okay, I don't even want to make no comparisons. Because I don't, I don't, I'm not trying to get canceled today. I'm not trying to get canceled today.

[00:47:33] But, but they're, they're, the way that they collab and make music and how they, they haven't missed yet is, that should be a case study. Um, but also last year, that was Billie's year last year. Like, Barbie came out. Mm-hmm. She got, she got, what, original song of the year for, for that track. She performed it at. Yeah. At the, at the Grammys. I mean, she's, she's been performing back-to-back years, um, at the Grammys.

[00:48:03] So, it's not like she's not still getting a spotlight. But, this year, this, this year was just a crazy year. Like, even, it, it could have went to Sabrina. It could have went to, I mean, Chapel Rome. Like, it, all these categories that Billie was in, they were all stacked. Like, I think she was in there with T-Swift as well. Like, I'm pretty sure people are surprised that T-Swift didn't leave with anything also. Right. So, it just, it just wasn't our girl year.

[00:48:32] That's, that's, that's, that's just what it is. Like, it just, it's just one of those years, like, that, that, like, Jack was saying in the very beginning. Like, it's, there was a lot of talent. A lot of, a lot of real vocalists, rappers, artists. Um, they put out really good projects last year. And, whoever won it, like, them, they was, I feel like this, one of those years, like, okay, they got it right. They got it right this year. Yeah. They beat some of the baddest ones this year.

[00:49:00] And, uh, and it's tough, too, because I thought a couple people really deserved a little bit more shine. Like, like you said, Billie Eilish, obviously. I think, I think Ariana Grande got the short end of the stick, too, here. You know, I really think, like, I really feel like if this was any other year, man, give Ari her things. I was happy to see The Boy Is Mine with Brandi and Monica was nominated for Best Pop Duo. But, of course, she does not end up winning that award. She ends up losing to Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars.

[00:49:29] Um, uh, but, I mean, even that category, you know, Beyonce nominated for Levi's Jeans, you know, it was just. That's a very good song. It was just one of those categories, right? And so, uh, we got a good acceptance speech from Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars. Lady Gaga talking about trans people or people, music is love, all the good stuff that we want to hear these days, because you get so much negative content out here on the news. And I, you know me, I'm a, I'm a proponent of, like, I'm not watching that shit. So, uh, like, send me the positive vibes, because I ain't got time for the rest of it.

[00:50:00] Chatham had a good, a good speech as well. Dolce's, uh, speech to, to all black girls and black women. We got a lot of good speeches this year. We had a lot of good speeches this year. Beyonce speech. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, Miley Cyrus was here. Why has she transformed into her mama? This lady is Tish. Like, this is the same lady. Am I, am I kidding? This is the same lady. Copy. Pace. Yeah.

[00:50:31] Just, like, that's it. Like, that's it. Like, bro, Billy Ray Cyrus was nowhere involved in the creation of this woman. I'm sorry. Uh, maybe she got some of his musical ability, but I don't even think she would give him that anymore. She wouldn't claim that. She wouldn't. Miley up there looking good as hell, per usual. She just, like, that's one of our, that's one of our people, y'all. Miley, she was. And happy. Like. Yeah. Happy. Talented. She won a Grammy with Beyonce. Jackie. Oh, yeah. Two Most Wanted? Two Most Wanted.

[00:51:00] Two Most Wanted? Yeah. What do y'all think about that song? I love that song. That's my favorite on the album. Really? That's my favorite on the album. That's, I said me. Me. Yeah, me. My name. There were some good collabs on that album, okay? Mm-hmm. But I don't know, though. I kept going back and forth between Two Most Wanted and Levi's Jeans because. Levi's Jeans. Levi's Jeans is a good one. That is a good one.

[00:51:30] Beyonce is one of those people who is very strategic about her collabs. Mm-hmm. She don't just be throwing people on songs because they're popular. And so I feel like she's very intentional. So when you get Post Malone and you get Miley Cyrus, like, on the album or whatever, like, you know the song is going to sound good because, you know, she did the labor. Like, she did the work. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But nah. The Virgo.

[00:51:58] When I first listened to that album, those two were standouts for sure. Like, you know, when you talk it through your short list of like, okay, what did I like on the first listen? Those automatically, because they were saying. Yeah. And we let our people sing down. Yeah. We do. We, uh. Go ahead. I was about to say, I was about to say, um, a lot of people, I remember when the album coming out, people was like, Molly, like. Well, playing on my girlfriend. You know, like, they were playing on my girlfriend's like, like, she didn't give us plastic hearts.

[00:52:28] Uh. Bangers? Bangers? Bangers? I'll get up and walk out of here. I'll get up and walk out of here. That was a dark time. That was a dark time. You know, Molly, Molly. First of all, they forget, like, Molly is not the godchild of Dolly Parton. Like, the girl has music in her veins. Like, she be singing down. Flowers? She just won a Grammy last year for Flowers. So, I was just like. Record of the year. She just won. Okay. Like, I was like, what are y'all talking about? Molly on the track with Beyonce?

[00:52:57] Like, yes, she can. She can hold her own. Oh, yeah. Molly Cooks. Molly Cooks. Man, bangers was a time. Light skin, Molly. Back when Molly was a kid. She had that little. She had that boyish cut. Yeah. She had the little short haircut. You know the one. Did you wear her upside down Jordan jersey? Yeah. She was wild. I'm a saint. Who was a saint? What did you say? What did you say? What did you say?

[00:53:29] Man. No, look. I was so happy to see Molly here. Even if she's like. Just introducing that award. Obviously, like I said. We grew up listening to Molly Cyrus. We've seen her evolve into this incredible artist. So happy to see that. She got a good win this time. It was a great year for a lot of these amazing artists. But also, like, I just liked seeing a lot of the artists that were also getting their flowers. You know, the ones that kind of get nominated off screen or, you know, get their awards off screen that we really did get to see.

[00:53:58] I mean, Lex, you already mentioned Lucky Day was there. Big year for R&B, I think. SZA did a, she, I believe she gave out an award this time. Yes, she did. Good AF. Have y'all seen the SZA Issa Rae movie yet? Not yet. One of them days? It's on my list. It's on my list. SZA was looking good in that. She was looking good. Yeah, she did that. Yeah. This is, I was like, SZA. SZA. SZA. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Back to the Grammys. Back to the Grammys.

[00:54:29] Another person who was looking good, but also had a great night. Well, I wasn't actually expecting this because I hadn't looked into what was coming on the Grammys. I did not realize we were going to spend so much time with Shakira. She ends up winning the best Latin pop album as presented by Jalo. And then she goes on to basically get honored and perform right after, I guess, Gloria Estefan is the one who gets to announce her. And we get to see Shaki get back out here.

[00:54:58] Jack, I can't remember what it is. But Shakira was annoying to me a couple years ago for something she did. And I can't remember what it is, but I'm very happy that she's back and making music and dancing because the performance was great. Like a thing she did or something she said or something she did? It was something, I think it was something in that last relationship. I think it was like, we was like, Shakira, what are you doing? I don't know. What was, don't make me look it up. But yeah. Yeah, I'm going to look it up in the background. I was like, what, was it the Super Bowl performance?

[00:55:27] No, no, not that we ever know musically. But I think that last breakup was a little drama. I was like. Oh, I think I remember that. Yeah. About raising. Wasn't it some kind of like masculine masculinity, something, something, something statement that she made? I don't know. I do. I do think that's this niggling at the back of my, and I really think it was along those lines. And we was like, girl, mind your home's business.

[00:55:57] I said, raise your kids to be without a bit. Because they were provoked. I do think it was something like that. Like, I think we should be raising our kids. Like, raise your boys to be boys. And we were like, yeah, you can do that. Yeah. I don't remember. I don't remember. But I was happy to see her back. I will stand on this. I've said it. I've tweeted it. Skeeted it. Whatever. Whatever. This lady could be Beyonce's body double. The hair.

[00:56:27] The hair. And then just like the whole aesthetic. She still got that old Beyonce aesthetic. You know, Beyonce got the new, she got the new, you know, Nashville. White platinum. White platinum. But. Nashville aesthetic. She had to like, Beyonce, Beyonce. I said, bring it back. Where is part two? Where is part two? And Shakira definitely took time in her performance when she was walking past Beyonce. Gave her love. I didn't touch Beyonce. You got to touch Beyonce.

[00:56:57] She liked that little, that little stump at the Apollo that you got to put your hands on for good luck. You're like, if you can touch Beyonce, you do it. You got to show the people that she accepts you. Like, you can't touch Beyonce. But you see how she, you see how she holds me? Me. Michael. Like, y'all be like me. Some bitches know nothing about that. Like, it was a nice embrace, too, mid-performance. I said, yes. Beyonce was cheesing. I said, that's her girl. That's her girl. Yeah. Look, we love it. I love, I love seeing her back.

[00:57:25] I love seeing Shakira, you know, her new album is out. Her performance was really good. It was fun. She had, obviously, like this big, like, like she had all the dancers that we love to see. But someone else who had a big musical performance. I think our closing performance of the night. We got to talk about Charlie. Charlie. Charlie and them were throwing underwear around on stage. Oh, I can see that based on what was happening. First of all, my girl came in strong. Okay. She was giving Britney Spears. Yeah.

[00:57:56] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the very Britney Spears. What was it? You want a piece of me. Yeah. 100%. I said, you know what? First of all, the fur with the nothing under it, with the shirt, with the long hair. I said, Charlie. You give a pop icon behavior. I see what's happening. But then we devolved into something very just debauchery. And I was like, oh, baby, we in the club with drugs.

[00:58:27] She said she sounded very much like me. She said it's going to be very wholesome, very legal, you know. And I was like, thank you. And then when she started doing. Yeah. But then when she started doing stuff, I was like, oh, maybe she maybe not like me because I'm, you know, the wholesome part. I was really leaning into that. And then she did. She went the opposite way, Lex. I don't, for me, you got a little wild for me. You know, not really my sweet. You know what? Okay. We're going to let you cook. Go ahead. I'm good.

[00:58:57] Y'all know me. I'm, you know, I'm. Do it? Wow. Okay. So all the undergarments that were thrown were donated to domestic abuse survivors. I was like, oh, that was pretty cool. You know, the unworn. Yeah, the unworn. Yeah. The unworn underwear were donated to domestic abuse survivors. Um, so very happy that, you know, a lot of this, uh, Grammys was really going to a good cause. I think they were really maximizing their attempts to give back.

[00:59:24] I question why we're just now doing stuff like this. Like I will give the BET awards credit for one thing. They will go out of their way to highlight, you know, black organizations and stuff like that during the commercial break. You know, they're going to cut to this local, uh, local teacher, local organization, whatever. They do it. And we take it for granted because when the Grammys did it, it really felt like, damn, if you're going to have this in LA. Yeah. Why aren't these local businesses being highlighted?

[00:59:50] You know, we saw big artists, uh, like Anderson pack being able to kind of rubber stamp some of these, uh, these businesses that hoodie that was what? $60 worth, sir? Whoa. Hold on. Pause. Okay, fine. I guess, you know, 60. Wow. Steep. But you know, we also, we also saw Avril Lavigne. Don't do this. Not on, not here. Please. Don't do this. We saw Avril. Please. Let's not talk about internet theories. Please, chap.

[01:00:20] Melissa, you deserve your flowers. Flowers. Okay. You've been carrying this lady for decades. Okay. Give her what she deserves. When they give a lifetime achievement award, they need to give it to. Okay. That's all I understand. Can we talk about that right quick? Yeah. Can we talk about Alicia getting, getting the Dr. Dre award? Yes. It's just probably why this, why this man? We say it every year. Dr. Dre should not know peace based on his past actions.

[01:00:50] We should never let him forget it. But he does give away the Dr. Dre global impact award. Queen Latifah got to present the award. They kept saying, Queen Latifah is going to honor Alicia Keys. And I kept saying, don't stop saying that. MC light. Stop saying that. Oh, you don't get a song. I wanted a song. Sing. If I ain't got you. And then let Alicia Keys come out. Sing, sing that Queen Latifah. Queen that, sing that for me. But Alicia Keys is another Grammy darling. Okay. 17 Grammys.

[01:01:18] I think she got or something like that. It's like 14 to 17. Something like that. But she won one tonight. You know? So 18. Yeah. She just, I mean, racking them up. She won five for songs in a minor. And that's just crazy to me that she's come this far. People have mixed opinions about her performance style sometimes. But look at the material. You know?

[01:01:46] The accolades, the awards, they don't lie. She gives a shout out to a bunch of the other women producers, which I thought was pretty cool. Because she made a really good point. Like, Jackie, I can't really think of a time where women are looked at as strong producers in the same way as like Dr. Dre and Timbaland and Scott Storch and, you know, Swiss Beats are as far as men go, as far as producers. Because she produced so much. But other people like Missy Elliott and Solange, she was name dropping a lot of them. I thought this was a very valid point.

[01:02:15] No, I think that's a great point. But I think even from like a standpoint, remember when the versus was going on and they were having like producers? We weren't bringing up any women. We definitely could have. But I think, I don't know what it is about it. When you have people who perform and produce, I feel like you choose your side of what you laud them as. So like, Timbaland is a performer, but he's going to come up in a producer conversation.

[01:02:43] Dr. Dre is a rapper, but he's going to come up as a producer before you start talking about him like rapping. And so I think other people like Missy or Alicia and everything, they're like, oh, she's a singer. Like, oh, she's a rapper. Before we start looking at the layers and, you know, like all the things that they contribute to music and they produce their own music, etc. Even Solange, she's such a talented artist that holds such a, like, she's kind of like a piece of space.

[01:03:10] That we think about that artistry before we think about all the other hats that she's wearing when it comes to putting her music together. So I do think it was important to like call that out. Like, hey, like women are also doing multiple things. They're, you know, women can sing and songwrite. They could songwrite and produce. Like they could do all these things together. Also, she looks stunning. That headpiece thing that she had that went into the earrings. People can say what they want about that lady's voice, but my girl ain't never not look good. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[01:03:39] And she's so eloquent. Like when she was talking, I was just like, I could just listen to her talk. She's so well-spoken. I love the way she expresses herself. And I was glad that, you know, she got a little shine on her today, even though she saw that lady husband. She did still that lady husband, but it's okay. Never let someone's significant other stop you from eating the love of your life. I said it. I mean it, okay? You could be elevating yourself. You don't even know if they got good vibes with each other. They just buried. That don't stop nothing. That don't stop no show.

[01:04:09] Do what you feel is best. Follow your hand, okay? Kronbin. My guys. They performed. Now this, I didn't know they were going to perform. But this is May 9th. Okay? I got my Houston hat on. You know we got a rep. The Texas duo here. Jack. Trio. How'd you come? Yeah, Trio. I'm sorry. How'd you come across Kronbin? Yeah. Like, I love Kronbin.

[01:04:35] Like, since I found them, which, you know, I just like to explore new bands. I'm always listening to new people. I'm always searching for a different vibe. So when I came across them, it was just, the music that they're doing now is a little different from how they started. It was a lot more groovy. That kind of first album that I had come across. They still had some Bobby music going on, but they had a lot more upbeat stuff as well. So, and I just was kind of into them and their influences and how they came together from,

[01:05:02] like, the name of the band and being, like, Thai influence and everything and their different backgrounds. They're all musicians. I made some of them come from musical training and everything. And I actually went to go see them live at a concert in North Carolina, I think 2017, 2018. And it was just such a cool experience. I went by myself. I didn't feel, like, out of place or anything because I was so into the art that they were putting out and it was just such a good time. So they're one of my go-to artists if I'm looking to just relax or have a little vibe or I need

[01:05:30] some music while I'm trying to have a conversation with somebody. I don't want it too, like, amped up or anything. Perfect group to go for. Yeah. I just got into them recently because I was doing my research for the Grammys. I was like, well, let me go find out. I was like, oh, what is this? So, yeah, I didn't know they were going to be performing. But, you know, all the best new artists nominees performed. It's just that one group had the medley and then you had, like, Krong Ben was by themselves. I think Sabrina was by herself. Billie was by herself.

[01:05:58] You know, so they definitely gave everybody, yeah, Chapel Row, of course, by herself. So they gave them all a chance to kind of shine. And so I was like, oh, yeah, this is pretty cool. I'm trying to figure out if there's anybody we really miss. Chris Martin showed up. He did. That was fun. He did what Chris Martin does. Yeah. Hopped on the keys. Now, we didn't really discuss it in depth, but Beyonce definitely got Chris Martin. Like, you know, when the divorce happened with Chris and Gwen, you know, Chris went to Beyonce. I think Jay-Z and Gwen are still cool.

[01:06:27] But I think, like, Beyonce, Chris is her guy. Like, if I had to guess. Was it Gwen there? Did I spot her in the crowd? Was she there? I mean, she... I think I saw her. I didn't see her. I think Jay's... I'm telling you, her and Jay's still cool. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think they can't hang out as a couple with them, but, you know, they still cool. I don't know. I'm always happy to see Chris Martin. Of course, it sounds beautiful singing. You know, I'm not the biggest Coldplay fan. You know, I like...

[01:06:56] I dibble and dabble. I dibble and dabble. I got my songs, but, you know, I ain't going to the concert. I put it like that. You know, we did the Super Bowl. Coldplay was like, listen, we know our lane. And they called up Beyonce and they called up Bruno Mars. That's how I know she got him in a divorce. Because he called her and was like, hey, come put on this Black show with Bruno Mars for halftime. And we're going to sing one song in the beginning and one song in the end.

[01:07:21] And I appreciate them for knowing that we didn't want to listen to all of X and Y and Yellow for the entire Super Bowl halftime. That's it. You know, I like clocks. I'm just not trying to hear it at the Super Bowl. But this year at the Super Bowl, we get to hear Kendrick. And we get to hear Kendrick. This Drake is going to be incredible. And next year, GNX is probably going to get nominated for a bunch of Grammys. So Kendrick had a year this year, but his year is not going to stop anytime soon.

[01:07:51] I think it's about to carry over into 2025. And, you know, that he's going on tour. We know that, too. So a lot of big moments are coming out of music. It's going to be a mess. I'm so ready. I'm so ready for all this. Anybody else we missed? Any big moments that we need to discuss before we go? Lex, anything you want to highlight? I cannot think of it at the moment. What do you think about the Megan commercial for the new movie, Megan 2?

[01:08:19] I was like, I ain't even watched the first one. I don't. Yeah. I don't even. I was. I was. As a child. I didn't even watch Chucky movies as a child. Because. Oh, it's not your bag. You know, that's not my bag. I'll leave that alone. I saw bits and pieces of Megan. I was like, this is absolutely ridiculous. And I left it at that. Jack, what about. How do you feel about this?

[01:08:49] Fight me. Fight me. No, just say that. Just say that. I don't play with spirits. I don't play with dolls now. How do I do with spirits? Jack, Megan, the commercial, the trailer. It was kind of nice. I'm half with Lex. I don't horror. That's not my genre. Unless you say witch or vampire. And I am going to see Sinners for that reason. Another trailer we saw. Yeah. Good cow. The problem with Megan is.

[01:09:19] When that first trailer dropped. And she was doing the little winded up thing that she was doing. I thought it was fucking AI. And they had just dropped it. You know, somebody had remade it. And it wasn't real. And then I saw the real official trailer. It was like, oh, y'all got this. Y'all got her dancing in the movie. So when I saw her pop up today, I was like, iconic behavior. Honestly, if you're going to do it, double down. She said, I thought she would have died in the first movie. I didn't watch it. But obviously she's back.

[01:09:49] But to come out to Charlie XCX and be like, and what about it? She's back. Iconic behavior. Iconic behavior. I support that. I'm not going to support the movie. But I support that. I support people going to support it. You know? Yeah. I feel like Megan is like an extended episode of Black Mirror. Yeah. Like it went on a little too long. Now we got a sequel. Thought we killed this doll. Yeah. That commercial stood out. Of course, Lady Gaga and them stood out. You know?

[01:10:17] So there were a bunch of great moments. It was a long Grammy award, y'all. So many people saying, we didn't even talk about Lainey Wilson and her, her Let the Good Times Roll with Jacob Toliver. Like everybody. Lexley and you both like. Wait, what y'all got to say about Lainey? I like, I like Lainey. I was kind of pulling for her to get something. But I mean, she wouldn't get that country album. Did she perform at Thanksgiving for the Cowboys? Was that Lainey Wilson? Yeah. That was Lainey Wilson.

[01:10:48] I left the room dead. Oh. See, I didn't do that. I was there. I was still there. My mom was talking about, it's a shame they made her lose all her hips. I said, oh. Oh, no. This is why. She used to be thick. She used to be thick. And they made her dick. My mom took me down the whole thing of this lady. And I was like, I just met her now. Like, I don't even know about that. I think she's just great. So sorry to that woman. So sorry to that woman. I didn't even hear. Like, I don't even know why she was there.

[01:11:17] I think Jacob Collier made sense. He was Quincy's, like, he mentored her. Yeah. Herbie. Like, all of those made sense. I don't know where she came from. And if we were going to be singing, like, a jazzist song, I just feel like there were so many other people literally in that room that I could have put there. Not even a color. Samara Joy. My girl. Samara. Samara Joy. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. It was fine. That last note was very nice.

[01:11:46] But while it was happening, I was like, you know, we could have just let Jacob sing the song. That's what we could have done. Yeah. We didn't hear a lot from Jacob. We got to see him on the keys, but we didn't get the, and he didn't get his, he obviously was nominated for the same award that Beyonce won and Kendrick won. So, you know, so you're in a tough spot there. But yeah, Lainey was there, nominated for Best Country Album along with, like, Kacey Musgraves. Chris Stapleton. I saw people online saying that they were shocked that Chris Stapleton wasn't coming away with a win there. But again, Beyonce was shocked.

[01:12:14] You ended up with Beyonce, a lot of people are going to be surprised, you know, because she does what Beyonce does. And I think it was a big night and a history-making night for Beyonce. People have been waiting and clamoring for the time for her to get this. Blue is like, get up. You act like you won something before? Damn. Blue is not happening. Blue is not happening. Stop playing in my face. That's why we keep Blue around. Somebody got to keep Beyonce in line. Somebody got to keep her in line, though. But yeah, but that's it. That's the Grammys.

[01:12:43] I think we hit on most of the things. It was good to see the people that we saw, you know, Cardi B, all these other people. So star-studded lineup, but also, you know, the biggest night in music of the year. And now we get to wait until next year to see who's going to drop this year and the next few months that are going to be nominated. Personally, I'm hoping that it ain't too far removed that we can give Tyler the creator some love. You know, he wasn't able to get his album out in time for this Grammy.

[01:13:09] But I think had he done it here, I just don't see anybody. But like, to me, Tyler got the best rap album of last year. And it's just, that's just my type of Tyler, you know, that's my type of project. And so I'm hoping that next year is still in the conversation. Because I do feel like when you drop your album, it's very important. I think that, you know, Taylor Swift's album dropping very early on, Ariana Grande as well, Eternal Sunshine. Like, you know, people not really talking about them like they were.

[01:13:37] Um, despite Taylor's, you know, record-breaking tour, uh, I do think that other albums were coming out and had like maybe some recency bias or, you know, they're, you know, with people of the moment sometimes. So I'm very excited to see what comes next. But, uh, we got a whole year to discuss that and we got other award shows to talk about. But until then, thank y'all both for being here with me on y'all's first recap kickback. Lex, tell everybody what you're working on. Are you still doing the Give Back Black app?

[01:14:07] Yes, I'm still doing the Give Black app, um, which is available on Android and iOS. Um, it's a crowdfunding app for black organizations, black businesses to give back, um, for any of those kind of needs that they, they may have for their organization. Um, so yeah, still working on that, uh, outside of that, just being a dad, um, just raising my little man and, uh, uh, just trying to try to not take in too much news.

[01:14:40] Uh, not too much. I'm just trying to enjoy, just enjoy my peace, uh, protect my mental at all times. But outside of that, I'm chilling. Yeah. Protect your peace, brother. And where can they find you on social media if the people want to follow you? Or if you want to let them know you. I mean, they can follow the kid. Um, I am on Blue Sky, um, and IG. I, I'm not on any of the other platforms. I, I had to get off of them.

[01:15:10] But anyway, um, same username, SirLex1615, um, all lowercase, one five, um, as you can see in the background. Um, yeah, that's the, that's the main two places you can follow me. Okay. Well, y'all ain't got to follow Lex. Jack, do you want any followers? Tell everybody if, are you working on anything where they can keep with you on social media? What you got going on? Um, I mean, I don't, I don't think. Listen, I post a lot of content about music.

[01:15:38] Um, I love discovering samples and just good production. I love new drops. So I'm always talking about albums. There will be unhinged spread things sprinkled in between those, but it's all a good time. Um, so on all platforms, um, Mixentricity. So that's M-C-C-E-N-T-R-I-C-I-T-Y. Um, we just gotta have a good time. So feel free. Come over. Yes. Follow Jack at Mixentricity. Follow Lexington, SirLexington15. And then follow me at Recap Kickback on all social media platforms

[01:16:08] to keep up with everything we have going on. And we got a lot going on this year for our year anniversary. We've enrolled some new content. We got the Wrestling Kickback coming. Matt and Mari are going to be talking about wrestling once a month, once it's a month. And we did our preview. I'm sorry, a recap of the reactions for our, uh, for the Royal Rumble 2025. And so that podcast should already be up in your feed. Check it out on our page and make sure if you're a wrestling fan to subscribe so that you don't miss any of the Wrestling Kickback content with Matt and Mari.

[01:16:36] Uh, also this week we're celebrating the year anniversary. And so we're going to have game night on Thursday. So you'll see, you'll hear me, you'll hear Mari. And we have a panel of people coming on to play some games and to kind of commemorate our last year and Recap Kickback. Gia and I have finished How to Ruin Christmas, our South African holiday series, season three. That should be out, uh, this week as well. Tomorrow, probably. And so check that out if you've been following that. If not, go back and listen to our past episodes of How to Ruin Christmas

[01:17:04] because, uh, this one will end that trilogy. And, uh, then Gio and I will be off to cover Abbott Elementary as we have been season four is under wraps. And, uh, we have, or the episodes 10 and 11 already dropped. And so we'll be doing episodes, uh, 12 and 13 this week. So check that out and more. We also got a Brent Steele coming with the black cartoon characters playing Survivor. It's a simulation that we're running and it's going to be a good time. Eight Ball Bangers is joining us on the podcast for that too.

[01:17:32] A lot of black content here for Black History Month. We're going to celebrate all year. Donald Trump can't stop us. So make sure you tune in so you don't miss any of that. Uh, and all the other good stuff we have coming your way. Until next time, please make sure you subscribe to the podcast. Recapkickback.com slash subscribe or youtube.com slash at Recapkickback to make sure you don't miss anything. But that said for Lex and for Jackie and for myself, you ain't got to go home, but you got to get the hell up out of here. We'll talk to y'all next time. Peace.

[01:18:02] Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace.