Abbott Elementary Season 5 Eps 19 & 20 Recap

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[00:00:23] Oh mein Gott, y'all, das ist die schmerzeste Zeitlinie. Ich komme euch live hier an.

[00:00:51] Hier, von der Darkest Timeline, Season 5 Episode 19 Trip, und Season 5 Episode 20 Night Out are over. But class is in session here on Abbott Elementary, a Post Show Recap, brought to you by RecapKickback.com. It's me, your host Chappell. And if you're listening to this, you know we're a little late. We're a little late to this party. It's been a couple weeks since we've had our episode drop. But we are back to talk about more Abbott Elementary because me and my co-host, the principal of this podcast,

[00:01:19] we'll be covering this until it is off the air, whether Janine and Gregory like it or not. Gia, welcome back. Is it really a welcome back, Chappelle? Because what the hell did I just watch? What the hell did I just watch? I am distraught. I cannot eat. I cannot sleep. I am in my Jacob era right now, as my little Chiron suggests. And, you know, am I doing well? No, I am not.

[00:01:48] But thank you all for still joining us, even as we get through this PR crisis, I want to say. I don't really know what to call it. It's that tragedy, unsurmountable damage to my well-being, and I'm sure to everybody else's because what do you mean? Janine and Gregory broke up over one vacation. Oh, I'm so sad. I am so sad.

[00:02:18] We have been a part of this romance since day one. Since day one. Since day one, we've been on the ground. And we didn't even rush it. I want to give us kudos here. And I'm not just talking about me and you. I'm talking about the recap kickback fans, the Post Show Recaps fans, we all agree, hey, we don't need to jump right into this. She doesn't need to go from Tariq to Gregory and just, like, immediately get married. That's not realistic. Date around. You know, he should date around. Maybe they should get to know other people.

[00:02:46] And then when they are ready a few seasons in, we can make this happen. Now, they did stretch out the make it happen part a little too long for my life. It's just a pinch. We could have done this in season three. You know, just a pinch. But at the same time, we finally got there. We got the romance that we've all been waiting for. And then I started to question, is the show just going to allow them to be all sunshine and rainbows? And, yeah, I was not prepared for such a swift, such a swift decline in my mental health.

[00:03:16] Swift ending to this relationship. Now, I think after watching both episodes together, you know, there will be a reconciliation at some point. Right? Like, it just seems very out of character for the show for there to be no reconciliation. And for people that have watched the last two episodes, do not tell me what happens. I have not watched them yet. Because I wanted to be focused on the now, which is misery currently.

[00:03:45] And I, but like, they were doing so well. And then we got to planning a vacation. And so many issues came up at once. And here we are with this. Do, Chappelle, are you, are you a team? Are you on a team between Gregory and Janine? Oh, God. Yeah, I don't know if we can have this conversation, you know, because I don't, I don't know. I have issues with both sides. But obviously, you got to pick a side, right?

[00:04:15] This is not, we don't, we're not that kind of people. We, we lean into the extremes here. We're not in neutral. We are not, there are no Switzerland's to be found here. Yeah. So what are you thinking? What's your instinct here when it comes to this? I am team Janine all the way here. Because. Unfortunately, I am also team Janine. We are on the same side of this argument 100%. We are on the same side here. Gregory can kick rocks as far as I am concerned. Because what do you mean?

[00:04:42] Like, you, you guys finally settle on a vacation. But, okay, if you don't want to fly, fine. You don't want to fly. But the reasonings he gave and then Janine trying to find solutions to the concerns that he had, such as spending her own money on it. Or finding a way that they can do both of the things that they want. Make sure, find ways that they are both able to get there.

[00:05:10] And he just completely dismisses any of these ideas. He says she's irresponsible with money. And then decides without asking her that the best solution would have been just going to Atlantic City. Ridiculous. And if they do reconcile in this season, he better have a big ass apology ready for her. Because calling her irresponsible with money is crazy, first of all. Especially when she has just spent, like, what, 10 years? However long she was in her last relationship with Tariq.

[00:05:39] Like, footing all of the bills at every single point. I cannot deal. Like, stop being cheap, Gregory. Stop it. Stop it. This is ridiculous. I agree with you about Janine's stance on the trip. For one, just on principle, I am not a seven-hour drive type guy. Absolutely not. No. Stop it, Gregory. And I also believe that if Gregory is concerned about Janine and how she handles her money,

[00:06:07] Gregory should let Janine do whatever she wants with her money. You know? So when Janine says, I went and bought the tickets, you know, and I chose to make this a financial decision that I'm willing to foot, then Gregory should say, okay, there's your money. You know? I am very much a person who, like, I don't like to pay to get into, like, nightclubs, right? Or bars. If it has a cover charge, it's not the place for me normally. That's just not how I get down. Will I do it sometime? Sure. If everybody else is doing it fine. But there are definitely times where I'm like, hey, y'all enjoy yourselves in there.

[00:06:36] I am not paying to get into that bar. People are like, oh, we'll pay for you to get in and all this other stuff. That's fine if y'all would like to do that. But I want to be very clear. I'm not asking you to pay to get in. And I can also afford to get in. I just don't like to do that on principle. So I understand that idea of I'm not going to do that. But I also can't force you to do anything with your money, right? If you want to buy me a plane ticket, fine. Maybe I'll make it up to you in some other way. But I am not going to, like, I cannot be like, oh,

[00:07:04] I don't want us as a couple to be bad with money because you want to make a financial decision that you want to make. Like, you make the decision. Like, she cannot make him pay for a plane ticket. That is factual. When she goes and buys a ticket, I'm like, oh, that's a non-issue at that point. Yeah. I feel like Janine just solved so many problems at once here. And also just, first of all, this is why separate bank accounts are very important, right? Very important. Mandatory.

[00:07:28] No matter how in love you are, no matter how perfect you are for one another, keep a separate bank account. Right. Even if you have, like, a joint one for, like, bills or something like that. Separate. Separate but equal, you know? Right. This is the one time it works. The way the Constitution intended. Yes. But also, it's just, like, there is an element of control, which is a little concerning here.

[00:07:54] But also the fact that, like, I think we think very similar when we think about our vacations and stuff. It's like, I know how much money I have. So, I don't, so some of my vacations, I've been a little more frugal than others, depending on how much money I have. So, there are just certain things that I will not do. Like, if there is an excursion that is a little more expensive, I may sit out of that one. Or maybe I get something cheaper at a restaurant.

[00:08:21] Like, maybe I just do an appetizer or something like that because I get full pretty easily. And I don't want to spend money on, like, a $50 dinner the way that other people might be or something. Or I'll ask for a separate check if I'm not drinking as much. But, and then other times where I do have more money, I might be the person that's like, hey, I'll do your, I'll cover your cover to get into this place. Or I'll do a round of drinks or something like that.

[00:08:48] Like, I'm very, by, by the, like, situation that I, like, I know ahead of time what my circumstances are going into whatever vacation. And I think Janine is probably kind of like us as well of, you know, she, she has been so excited to do these little steps to really treat herself.

[00:09:10] She went on a solo vacation a few summers ago when, um, I think they were in, like, season three or maybe even season two after her and Tariq broke up. She's done, like, little things to treat herself more and to really put herself out there more as the seasons have progressed. So for Gregory to dismiss her, it's just very disheartening for, uh, how the whole vacation in general was handled.

[00:09:36] But they both probably should have taken Barbara's advice at the very beginning to, like, pick a spot that is close enough to what you both want and go with it. Yes. Uh, now, that said, there are things that I did agree with Gregory on for sure. And one of those things being that Janine is the one who ended this relationship as far as I'm concerned.

[00:10:01] When she says, maybe we should break up Gia, you're never going to get me to beg. I'm never going to chase nobody. That's just not me. Cause you there, they're like, traditionally you're not taught that in my age group. We were taught like, you go find that woman, chase that woman, go knock on her door, stand outside with the, with the speaker. Yeah. That's a whole other problem that comes into that.

[00:10:20] Harass those women basically until they say, no, it's fine. I love, you know, like that's how a lot of men were raised. And now we've shifted away from that, right? Where you are teaching, we are teaching our kids and young boys. No means no. When people don't want you to take them at their word, respect boundaries. If you hit me with the, we should just break up. Hey, you let me know when you down for the reconciliation, but I'm not going to bother you, you know? And so for that, when she said that, I was like, oof, because me and him had the exact same thought, which was.

[00:10:51] All right. Well, that's how you feel. No, literally. I was like on my phone doing my little wordle and stuff. And I hear that, well, maybe we should just break up. I'm like, like, yeah, stop, stop thinking, looked up at my shot, not ready. I'm like, first of all, girl, how dare you? Okay. Like, this is what, this is, this is what I have to look forward to every Wednesday. She didn't talk to us beforehand. She didn't talk to Jacob. You didn't consult us. You didn't consult Jacob. You didn't consult. Very selfish.

[00:11:21] Very selfish of her. And I think at that point, there is the question of, okay, if you're the one that ended the relation and Gregory himself is a very, is very respectful with people's boundaries. He, but, and she should know this by nature. He is not going to go back and ask for her to change her mind and get back together. He is very much. And we've seen this as a relationship is developing.

[00:11:49] Once she says, you know, like what she wants in a situation, he accepts it and moves from there. He is not going to try to convince Janine to change her mind. And again, she should know that because this has been the reason it took them so long together to get together.

[00:12:08] So, uh, I, at some point there does need to be like a assessment of the personalities and realize, yeah, if you, if you do think you've made a mistake, maybe you should talk to him about that. Um, see how he's feeling, but I can understand her hesitancy about at this point, getting back, uh, together right after that. It's going to be messy no matter what, you know? Yeah. Yeah. She, I feel like tensions were high. Yeah.

[00:12:38] And you really shouldn't have these conversations when tensions are high. I think, uh, Gregory did a good job of it. Uh, in that scene of being like, Hey, we, we said some things, but I just want you to know, first and foremost, I love you. Right. Like go ahead and just like, Hey, let's just try to get this back down to a baseline of we're talking, we're coming at each other from a caring place. It then escalated again. And then like, like you said, you call me cheap. I say you're bad with money. And then, Oh, well maybe, Oh, you think I'm irresponsible. Well, maybe we shouldn't be together. Okay. Boom.

[00:13:06] But once you hit the, maybe we shouldn't be together at that point to me, like you said, if you, you ended it, I think for, I think the way that Gregory and me as well, I will say this for sure. As approaching this is that you're going to have to be the one to open that door back up. Cause I'm not going to be pest for one, my ego. Number one, let's just start with that. Fragile male ego. I'm not finna be baby. Please text me back. Uh, I see you leaving this on red. Did you block me? Let me text you from another number. Like I'd be damned.

[00:13:34] I'd rather eat a pair of denim jeans with a spoon, uh, before I do that. It's not happening. Uh, and so, but then on top of that, you also not going to be having me out here harassing you, right? Like, Oh, well chase after me. No, I'm not going to chase after you. That's crazy. You're not, you're not a gazelle. You're a person, you know, if you want to, if you want to be caught, meet me halfway, you know, or at least open the door. So yeah, this was so fast. It was so fast.

[00:14:02] I got a flash between these episodes. You and me and Jacob, all three together, right? By the end of it, Jacob is vomiting in the, in the nearest trash can because he couldn't believe that it, it dissolved into this so fast. Yeah. And he was working so hard to make sure that they were able to find a compromise to you. Jacob, you are God's strongest soldier truly because I was grieving with you through these episodes.

[00:14:28] And can I, we were so close to having Jacob and Elijah break up for good. And then what do you mean they got back together? I'm so sick of it. Sick of it. What do you mean they get back together? And I go through two episodes of Janine and Gregory fighting and being broken up and sad. We just talked about this last episode. You and I were like, Oh, what's the point of the Elijah Jacob relationship? They should just break up because they're never on screen together at all.

[00:14:55] And then we started this episode with Elijah and Jacob broke up. I said, okay. Okay. Lovely. That's something, you know, listen, we love love forward with Jacob. We need to move forward only to by the end of this episode, him and Elijah get back together with no sign. Still off screen, mind you. Still off screen. We have Elijah is yet to be found. Is Jabouki busy? He's got something going on. He is.

[00:15:22] But then again, that like he's in a, he's like, I know he's in like an Apple TV movie or something. But then like, that's all the more reason to break him up. Yeah. Like I get it. He's busy. Let's get like, why can't Jacob have a rotation of a gentleman collars or like we get to season of like his messy dating life or anything like that. Like I, the relationship does nothing. I would rather him.

[00:15:52] I, I, I accepted that him and Zach were broken up. Right. But what is the point of us seeing this relationship if we don't actually see this relationship? Like I have no reason to be invested in it. I want Jacob to like be in a, in a cute little relationship, like all the other relationships we have at Abbott. Right. Or just go be just like you said, bring him some hoes. Let him have some gentleman collars pulling up.

[00:16:18] You know, he's at, he's at Melissa's house, which would definitely be fun if Melissa's like, Hey, Jacob, you got some other guy at the door. You know, like that would be entertaining. We kind of saw glimpses of that in the past when Jacob first started dating. Yes. I don't understand the, the, uh, like, and Jacob has other plot lines going on. Right. Like, so it's not just all about him being in a relationship, but what good is this relationship if we never see it? Even their breakup and them getting back together was all off screen.

[00:16:47] It's just like, I don't understand why the show is invested in this relationship. Yeah. Like we, we don't, we, we just mentioned Barbara's husband in passing. Right. Like, Oh, every now and then she's like, Oh, me and Gerald did a thing. So they don't. Gerald every now and then. We do, but they don't, the show doesn't make a point to highlight Gerald as a character. Right. Like we don't know much about Gerald. We know what him and Barbara like to do. And we've met him once. Yeah. But like with Elijah, it's like, we took the time to show us who Gregory was, I mean, who Jacob was dating and all that kind of stuff. Yeah.

[00:17:15] And Jacob's dating life has been a plot line before. So I just kind of want them to go somewhere with it. Yeah. You know, because this, this relationship surviving while Gregory and Janine falling apart. That part. That part. It's not giving me the energy I needed. Yeah. It's not giving me the energy I needed. Now, one more thing about the Gregory and Janine initial fight. Yes. What do you think about this? Cause I did not even know the Outer Banks was a real place. I was like, that's a TV show.

[00:17:44] So I knew it was a real place because, um, my parents have gone there before. My mom and stepdad have gone there before for trips and they really like it. Um, I am intrigued by the concept of Outer Banks, but I have not, it's not like top of my list of places to go. Uh, but also, yeah. And now I'm kind of afraid to go there and, uh, potentially run into some white teenagers.

[00:18:15] I'm so confused. Like, I just really want people, I wish people could see the image of my mind, like in my mind of what I thought the Outer Banks was in comparison to probably what it is. I don't, I don't know. Like I'm looking at it online right now and it looks almost like, like a beach, kind of like the Hamptons kind of vibe or something like that. Maybe like, you know, um, like Martha's Vineyard or something like that. Like, that's what I'm seeing.

[00:18:40] It's like a combination of the Jersey Shore and Martha's Vineyard is my understanding. And like a little bit of a bayou situation. Yeah. Uh, and I thought like, I don't know. I, I thought this was like marshland. I thought they were going out, like, why are y'all out there in a bog? You know, like, I don't know.

[00:19:08] I did kind of, again, I'm not that knowledgeable of it, but I was, um, and if you Google Outer Banks, the first thing that comes up is the TV show, mind you. Right. But I'm thinking like, where are you going to get massages? Like, isn't it like Swamland? Where's it? Swamland? Okay. Listen, I thought the show was about the Swamland. You're going to the Everglades to get massages? Why would you do that? So, yeah.

[00:19:34] So I was already like, I was like, oh, this is above my, my, my Texas sensibilities do not know what they're talking about. And so the whole argument itself was kind of like, that's what you landed on. I mean, I guess if it's good enough for Essence Magazine, it's good enough for me. But I was very confused because I thought Melissa had the right idea. The Jersey Shore boardwalk? Getting drunk on that boardwalk is something that was on my bucket list from when I turned like 16. Yeah. They're talking about it as if like, there's no appeal to the Jersey Shore. Like. Right.

[00:20:03] Like, oh, you can't, you can't relax there. Have you guys never relaxed? We know these two have never relaxed before. So this is, it's like this, this is not new information to us. But I thought the Jersey Shore was not a bad idea. Also, don't piss me off about this Outer Banks location. I just Googled it and had to specify the location from where I live. Right. It is a 90 minute flight to the Outer Banks. Ooh. 90 minutes.

[00:20:33] In and out. In and out. So that, and considering like where Philly is. Now, Philly and Massachusetts are not right next to each other, but you can, but a flight to Philly from where I live is also not going to be very far. So what? It'll be like a, a two hour flight if possibly versus seven hours. Seven hours. It might even be closer.

[00:20:58] I don't, I think Philly is, yeah, Philly's further South than Massachusetts. So like, I, again, I am failing to see the concern with the flight. A 90 minute flight is not going to be that expensive, Gregory. It, and especially when. For your whole relation to be stingy. And with gas. And with gas. And with gas. Gas prices sky high. Sky high. You're telling me what's four dollars.

[00:21:27] You're telling me with four dollars a gallon, Gregory, that you are saving money driving. In a way. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Do not piss me off again. This was just not my ministry. Like the moment somebody tells me we're driving over four hours, I'm like, okay, is there a flight option? Like that. Like I think three hours, I think four hours is my absolute limit to where I will start to question it. I think anything over three hours, you need to promise me face to face that we are going to have stops.

[00:21:57] In between. Like. Right. At the most, I say like two hour range. You tell me ahead of time you want to do a straight shot through there. Fine. I will get over it. Three hours. Anything over three hours, I at least need to know that there will be breaks. Anything over four hours, we're flying. If there's a flying option, that's what we're doing. I agree. I agree. Because I need to know where the food at. Are we stopping at restaurants specifically? Right?

[00:22:27] I don't want to see the world's largest ball of yarn. I need to know. Okay. Boom. Two and a half hours in, there is a steakhouse that you can only get the world's largest steak at that event. Put that on my list. You know what I'm saying? But like just to be going, just to drive through. And again, I'm from Texas. This is the desert. You could drive for hours in one direction and see nothing. And it's not, it can't be like a quick pit stop to grab. Like it can't be like we're stopping through a drive-thru. I need to sit down.

[00:22:57] I need to sit down. In a booth. A cushioned booth. Before I agree to go on a trip that long. Yeah. Agreed. Like there are specifics here. And the length of the flay is also adding to my disgruntlement with Mr. Eddie here. Right. Now, again, I agreed with Janine on the premise of the fight. But there was also things where I was looking at her crazy.

[00:23:25] Because when Gregory is teaching his class, why does she walk her ass in there talking about, I was just teaching sociology to my students. Ma'am, no you were not. No, you were not. To those children. No, you weren't. Actually, no, you were not. They can't even pronounce sociology at that age. And all of a sudden, now we're going to have a public fight in front of the kids. Because you, like, I was like, all right, y'all. This is getting out of control. And don't get me wrong. It's not abnormal for Abbott. Because they often will walk into each other's classrooms and doing this.

[00:23:53] But again, I was like, all right. Y'all tripping a little bit. I feel that a little bit, though. Because I'm tired of everyone acting like Gregory is the reasonable one in this relationship. Where he's just doing some bait. Like, where he's using his class time to make his argument that driving is a good idea. And like, these kids don't know. These kids don't know what an eight-hour drive feels like. Yeah. Like, they don't know any better. Stop trying to get the kids on your side. You sound ridiculous. Stop trying to get the kids on your side. Janine walked in and shut it down.

[00:24:23] I was like, get out of this man's classroom. They was doing a lot. You're going to ruin these kids' lives, Gregory. Thinking that an eight-hour drive is reasonable. Like, they're never going to get regular relationships at this rate. They're not. You're setting them up for failure. Before we get into some of like the B plot of episode 19, let's just go ahead and keep talking about the relationship and kind of what the aftermath is of this.

[00:24:48] So, the next day, we find that Gregory has gone to stay at Jacob's house, which means he's staying with Melissa and Caleb as well. And Gregory seems to be dealing with this like a normal human, right? Like, he's going through the levels of a breakup. This is what happens. But there are some competing forces here in that home. Jacob wants Gregory to feel his feelings, but specifically feel them with Jacob. You know, be in the house with me.

[00:25:16] Let me support you. He is. And I want you to listen to sad music and hang out with me and all this other stuff so we can feel our feelings and we can get through this. It's going to take time, but I'll be here to support you. Meanwhile, Caleb is like, let's go party. And you know me well enough, Gia, to know who I am in this situation. You are the Caleb. Let's go. What I've felt so seen in this episode because everything Caleb said, I got it too.

[00:25:46] In my soul. When that man said, the best way to get over a breakup is to get under the spell of a good DJ. I said, that's all I'll be trying to tell y'all. He knows what he's talking about. He knows. All I'll be trying to tell y'all. He's been through five breakups just this year. Okay. He is a... Which made me consider another point I want to propose to you. Right? Okay. Caleb and Erica. You know... Their vibe. They got a similar vibe.

[00:26:16] Like, I do enjoy the messiness of Erica and Simon. However... Right. It has not... The thought has not escaped me of maybe some other options for Erica. And then we haven't seen them meet yet. You know? They haven't met yet. But I... Maybe she just... Maybe she just needs a little... A little Caleb in her life. You know? I think... They have like... They got a similar energy about them. I agree. I agree. No. I agree.

[00:26:44] I like when the best friends get together. That's one of my favorite TV archetypes. I do like... I like when there's like a natural spark there. They have a similar vibe. Mm-hmm. They both are... You know? Like, they... They have a... Like, extrovertedness about them. They bring their friends out of their shell. Yeah. Supportive. I think they could be good for each other. We love a fun couple. We love a fun couple. We love a fun couple. We love a fun couple.

[00:27:11] We haven't seen them meet yet, but I just feel like if they do meet, it could happen. The sparks could fly. I was so happy to have Erica back in this episode. I know you were. I was not expecting it. And then when we got her, I was... I was very, very happy. This was... This was what I needed. Yeah. I'm wondering if... Because we know the finale episode theme is Miami. If maybe there's going to be like a Miami...

[00:27:38] I mean, I'm assuming this is going to be like the vacation resolve. But is it going to be like... Are we going to Miami as a group? Or is like Janine going to go with Erica to Miami? I don't know. I don't know. But I would like... I just need more Erica in this next season because she was a delight here. And girl, I am so sorry about your lease. We have all been there. It is rough.

[00:28:03] But I am glad at the very least we can all have solace in the fact that the breakup timing went really well for her. It really did. This was the best case scenario for Erica. And she's there working as a 911 dispatcher during the day, working from home with her headset on. Perfect job for Erica. I have a question about this. Apparently, it's... They frown upon 911 operators working from home. Wouldn't that be like the best case scenario though for a 911?

[00:28:32] Like, that seems like a nice... Like, what do you need to do right in an office? If you have the setup sent to you. You ain't got to get me on my soapbox about people working remote these days and how a lot of these businesses don't actually need you in the building for you to do your job. I need to be a 911. You can get a 911 operator from home. You definitely can. I mean, we watched her do it. Yeah. Like, look at her working from home. She's literally doing it. She was very focused on her screen.

[00:29:02] She had all of her... All of her things connecting in there. I don't see why she couldn't just work from home there. Right. So, maybe she did give somebody some advice to shake a little ass on the 911 call by accident. But, I mean, who among us? Who among us? But that's happened. To what end? To what end? She could have gave that same advice in a building. You can't... Honestly, maybe that advice helped her. Right. You don't know. Maybe I did shake the mask and it woke him up.

[00:29:31] Who knows? That would help me. So, yeah. So, she is there. And so, on the flip side, you have Caleb and Jacob who are trying to make Gregory feel better. But Janine has Ava and Erica on her team. Because Ava makes it very clear. I am team Janine from day one. And I was like, this is what we're talking about. Okay? Look at the growth. The growth. At least she can admit it.

[00:29:57] Now, I did feel bad for her when she found out that her fourth favorite couple in the school was going through a breakup and she found out so late. Because I would have been mad. I would have been so angry. If I was the last person to know and I walked into that teacher's lounge wondering why the I would also be pissed off. What is her ranking of these relationships? Because I'm assuming her and O'Shawn are first, right? Yeah. It depends on what day you ask her. Because I think in these episodes, like the financial situation probably put an asterisk. It did come up a little bit. It did.

[00:30:27] So, maybe like Barbara and Gerald. I'm assuming we're just talking about like... The main cast. The people in relationships at Abbott. Not like necessarily people dating each other within the school. Right. Because Mr. Johnson and his relationship as well. He's doing great. So... Right. So, I'm like... I feel like he is like a comfortable number two, three, depending on where O'Shawn is falling at that point. Uh-huh.

[00:30:57] Depending on the day. Right, right, right. Yeah. Yes. But this is number four. And that's very important to her. That she missed out on the gossip. And so... I know she's... Oh, sorry. I was gonna say, I know she's also pissed off about having to hear so much about Elijah and never seeing this relationship unfold. I know she was... I know she is not amused by this. She was waiting for them to break up as well. Right. She said she's always known that Gregory and Janine were gonna break up. And Janine is just very confused. Because this was their first big fight.

[00:31:28] Now, I... I... Again, agree with Erica. Dating a co-worker is a mistake. You know? Because now Janine is realizing, and everybody's realizing it, that their relationship being over does not mean that they won't have to see each other and work closely together. I mean, they're in the same friend group. Dating within a friend group is highly ill-advised. Yes. And now, as someone that has dated co-workers before, not at their current job, separate them, you know?

[00:31:53] The best way to do this is to just establish yourself as the dominant person in the breakup. Like, I am doing all of my... Janine's problem is she waited too long to go back into the teacher's lounge. You have to establish yourself as the main one. You are the main character. This is my space. Right. I am going to the teacher's lounge. I am going to my... Do my regular routine. And if you do not like it, you can be the one to leave. I am sitting at my regular table. Right.

[00:32:23] She waited too long. She tried to get in on, like, what Barbara and Melissa had going on. Uh-huh. Move all the different areas around. No. No, no, no. We're not doing all that. Janine, you needed to establish right away that, like, your days were not changing. She's not real. Go cry in the bathroom when you need to at that point. But, you know, you can't... You can't let Gregory win here. Her heart's not in it. Because what I would have done... Now, Mr. Petty has shown up.

[00:32:51] What I would have done is, oh, these were my friends first. Yes. Because make no mistake, Gregory, you just got here. I was here a year prior to you getting here. So, Jacob, Melissa, Barbara, my mentor, my work mom. Sir, you're lucky we're even speaking to you. You know, she... Last one in, first one out. Exactly, baby. You're at the bottom of this totem pole, okay? When we're picking sides, yeah, Ava's team, me. Everybody is because these are my friends. See, she's not good enough. She doesn't...

[00:33:19] She hasn't had enough breakups in her life. She doesn't know what she's doing. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. And we know that with the Tyreek one that a lot of them were his friends. Right. You need to establish yourself right away. Say, like, no, we do need to pick... You do need to pick sides. And it's going to be me because I was here first. Exactly. So, the big plan here is to get these two separately to Rubenstein's because that's basically the place to be, right? We know they've partied there before.

[00:33:49] And so, Caleb and Jacob have the same... Well, Caleb has the same idea and manages to grab Jacob along once Gregory says, okay, I can have a drink. Now, again, Caleb speaking to my soul. He hands them the pregame bottle. I am a big fan of the pregame bottle. Yes. This one consisting of vodka gin and rum. No, not one of each, but all of them in one bottle. That made my stomach churn a little bit. I don't think I was ready for the pregame. And maybe a smile. Maybe.

[00:34:18] Caleb is a man of culture. Right. He gets it. I was like, oh, he was there. He knows. He knows how to get down. And then on the flip side, like I said, Ava and Erica are taking Janine out to make some new memories. Gregory and Janine separately both get really, really drunk in these episodes. Yes, they do. They... I was a fan. I was a fan of our drunk little monsters here. Who... Pick your fighter.

[00:34:46] Drunk Gregory or drunk Janine. Oh, I'm not fighting drunk Janine. Absolutely not. If it's like in a fight, who would I want? Not so much in a fight, but you got to pick one. Which one do you prefer? Drunk Gregory or drunk Janine? I don't know if I could listen to that song as many times as... I think if it's like, if I'm picking for a fight, then Gregory. If I'm picking for like who I want to spend time with... Actually, it might also be Gregory.

[00:35:14] I don't know if I can make that many apologies in one night. At some point, I lose my patience with people. It's like, okay, you were mean once, right? You were mean to... First of all, never be mean to the server, you know? Right. Just don't do it. You want to be mean to somebody that hit on you at the bar? Fine, right? Once you start being mean to the waitstaff and the Uber driver... Pushing people. And the minute you say something to me, I shut down. I'm not...

[00:35:42] Whatever Ava did to compose herself does not exist in me. It would not be happening. We would be fighting. Yeah. Drunk Janine can stand up for herself and then some. Yeah. We're so used to Ava. She got some extra lashings in there just in case. She did. I was like, whew. You know, I can't feel too bad about Ava because Ava's kind of been asking for it for years. Yeah. And Janine dragged her down to the ground, underneath the ground, all the way to hell.

[00:36:07] So, Angie, I mean, your boyfriend worked for the Geek Squad, your lifestyle, you're not making no money. You're not rich like you used to be. Your bag is cheap. Your wig is cheap. Polyester. The minute they insult my hair, though, it is... That's... Insult my man all you want. You insult my hair. We're fighting. I thought Ava was going to come across that table. I thought that was... Yeah. I thought that was it. And nobody... Nobody...

[00:36:37] Look, not a jury in the world would have convicted her for slapping the hell out of Janine at that point. Now, listen, again, because it's Ava, we allow a little more grace here because we know Janine... Ava has gotten her lashings in quite a bit over the past few years that we've had with them. But, yeah, that was rough. That was rough. Yeah. Big time. Yeah.

[00:37:06] Janine's just mean when she... She turns into her mom, which I can definitely see. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a really good point. No, yeah. It was in her that whole time. And then we saw it come out. She didn't have to get a ride share of zero stars, though. That's a little too far. That was rude. Yeah. She said it. That's their livelihood. Yeah. That's it. That's it. Don't mess with these people's money. Yeah. So, that's where... At some point, I'm just like, you know what? I don't have the patience for this. I don't...

[00:37:34] I cannot deal with a rude ass drunk. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Gregory's sad, but I feel like I can deal with sad. It's when you get rude and disrespectful and angry where I'm like, it's not in my temperament to deal with that. I have been Gregory before. Yes. I have been this man in the bar, sad, but trying to party through it. Because, again, why would I heal in a healthy way when I can do this?

[00:38:02] I could go out and just dance and yell at people about how the music isn't loud enough and how we should play my song again. And you know what? Honestly, if they don't arrest me, then yeah, I'll stand up on the bar. I don't give a damn. Are y'all calling the cops? Yes or no? If not, leave me alone and let me dance on this bar. So been there, done that. I really appreciated Caleb, of course, getting the section because I'm not going to do it with my money. And then quoting Pitbull. Yeah, he was.

[00:38:30] He quoted Pitbull without a care in the world because some of the Pitbull songs said, just like, just dance. Just dance it out. So Gregory somehow ends up on the basketball court. He thought he could, again, episode very- This was his favorite part of that episode. Very Chappelle-coded episode. Because to get drunk and to now think I can do things that I cannot do, that's kind of my whole brand. That's who I am. Yes. Yeah. Waking up on a basketball court.

[00:38:59] Not something I have not done. Yeah. I'll say it. Non-zero chance that that's happened to me before. When I saw him wake up on that ball, I said, been there, done that. Been there. Sure have. Sure have. There are nights that I had in college that I do not remember. And I mean, like, not like, oh, I forgot. I mean, there are like big swaths of time. Yes. Hours where it's just, there's nothing, right? People are like, I saw you at the cafeteria.

[00:39:27] And then the next time I saw you, you were a zombie. And I'm like, I don't remember seeing you at the cafeteria. You know, like that's, that's kind of the nights that I've had. So yeah, Gregory was just, he was down bad, man. He was, it was really tough for him. And so they wake up basically at the school and they have to get ready to go. Janine and Ava and Erica all have their kind of like sleepover. And then they have to get ready to go to school.

[00:39:54] But elsewhere, Melissa and Barb and Mr. Johnson have had a sleepover too. Because Barbara likes to talk through movies. And apparently Melissa and Mr. Johnson like for Barbara to talk through movies as well. Well, so initially they did not invite Barbara because she asked too many questions during movies. And I have strong feelings about this, right? Go on. I am a curious mind myself, right?

[00:40:21] Like I, I am somebody that will look up things during movies, right? A hundred percent. Do not ask me questions during movies. Like if we, if I am inviting you to my place for a movie, we are watching the movie and I want to know, like I will do my own research. Cause I just, I can't sit still for that long. You know, like it's just not, it's not in my nature. I get curious. I, my mind wanders.

[00:40:50] So yeah, I might look up something here or there, but unless it's like a quick little side comment, like, that was funny. Don't, don't ask me questions during the movie. Especially if it's about the plot that just happened. I'm like, absolutely not. Like just pay attention and you'll pick up on it or look up the movie synopsis on Wikipedia and just read the first paragraph and you'll probably get an idea. You don't have to read all the way through, but you'll probably get an idea of what you just missed. I've been there.

[00:41:20] It works. So famously, I don't like movies. You know, I don't like sitting through them. I'll watch them, but you know, like a movie going to the movie theater is not a fun thing for me. Now watching a movie at someone's house is also not the greatest thing in the world for me too. Cause I could just be asleep and I probably will go to sleep. Right? Like that's, that's my whole thing though. But I'm like you, I'm going to look it up. And if I have a thought in my mind about the movie, my phone is glued to my hand for that reason. I'm going to look it up. I'm going to know what this actor was in. Cause I can't place them and I can't figure out their name.

[00:41:50] And so now I've got to look it up. I also want to know the other, the other 18 projects that they've done. I'm going to know if there's a sequel coming to this movie already. I'm going to know if I'm the only one confused about this. So I'm going to be on Reddit. Like, Hey, what are y'all talking about? I, that is me. That is me. And don't let it be a movie with a lot of lore. Like if I ever watched, I think the first time I watched the hunger games, I never finished it. Right. I've never, I've never finished a hunger games movie. The first time I watched it. The hunger games is one that like the move, the book explains a lot more than the first movie does.

[00:42:20] With good reason. It is, um, you know, that's what the book is for. But like you do kind of, you're, you are someone that read the book first and then saw the movie. Yeah. You kind of want to like, there's a lot of lore missing that you want to look up as, uh, like while you're watching the movie. And as the movies go on, they get more and more confusing.

[00:43:10] Mm-hmm. It's about my family members. Maybe their country is hell. And I don't know, maybe Barbara got some, some, some deep South, Southern black Baptist roots. And you know, she does. She does. But I don't watch movies with my, like my aunts and like, cause they, they, they do justice. Right. And they will choose a movie. And then they going to look at me. Like, I know all the answers to the movie that we all watching for the first time. Yes. And then I get to explain in the movie. They're like, y'all talking to the movie. It was like, well, y'all asking me all these damn questions. I'm trying to tell y'all. Cause I didn't already looked it up.

[00:43:39] And so I don't do this, but eventually they won. They won our own. They, well, Barbara won them over. Right. And her facts and stuff like that were so interesting about this avatar, uh, fire and ash movie. Yes. They were up on that. I think this was a mistake. Was that the movie that they were watching was a complicated movie with a lot of lore and a lot of CGI, other stuff involved in there.

[00:44:05] It's like, this is the movie to ask questions during, cause I also want to know how the whales are made. Right. Like I want to know why everybody here is blue. I want to know the process behind everything. So like this, this is the movie for that type of environment where you're asking questions and looking it up and learning more about this process.

[00:44:27] I want to get into more of the conversation about, um, about Melissa and Mr. Johnson and Barbara, because in the first episode, uh, the trip episode, they had a little bit going on. They all had their little side plots. And so Mr. Johnson and Barbara were basically at odds because, um, he kept coming across raisins and cheese, uh, stashed away in random spots in the building. He could find it and get all over the floor.

[00:44:56] And he knew it was Barbara's class, her kindergartners who were stashing these, these, uh, snacks away. Now, Barbara turns and asked her lovely students, you know, do y'all enjoy our, my snacks? And they, of course, lie, lie, lie, lie. At any point in this episode, Chappelle, did you think the kids were telling the truth and that there was going to be some like plot twist and there's going to be like another class or something? Me neither.

[00:45:26] I knew these kids were lying. Not because I'm good at detecting. I was just like, cause what else could it be? And kids are good at lying. Right. All they do is lie. All kids do is lie. All they do is they lie for fun. Cause they don't got, they don't have enough life experience to talk about. You know, like if you didn't. They lie because they know people will just look at their little chirped faces and these big brown eyes and be like, oh yeah, they couldn't possibly do it. They lie to see if they can get away with their lies. For the plot. For the plot.

[00:45:54] Now, there were several signs, obviously, that this was not going to work out for Barbara. When Mr. Johnson goes in there and accuses these kids of that, the, the look on these children's faces, they were giving him the stink eye. They were like, right. Like he's saying this, like, I know y'all are gaslighting me. And they're looking at him like, sir, get out of our classroom. Like, how dare you come in here? I think that whole class deserves kid of the week. I think so as well. I think so as well. I agree.

[00:46:24] They, they really did like those, those, those kids look fed up with Mr. Johnson because they knew, they knew he was making the block hot. Later on, he does show Barbara that. Yeah. Maybe they don't love raisins and cheese. Gia, this doesn't even sound like any, like, I don't think this is a generational thing. This is not a snack. This is. This is a. That's like bird food. I'm sorry. That's like. The leftover charcuterie. Why?

[00:46:54] Why is this the snack? Like, lady. Raisins aren't a snack. I'm sorry. Whoever says they're like nature's candy is a fucking liar. I refuse. They made that up. They made it up. I think big raisin put up to it. And cheese wheels, I think are a little too complex for the taste buds of a five-year-old. However old these kids are. I, I, I can't get behind it.

[00:47:22] I think, girl, bring out the, bring out the, uh, the fruit snacks and like the fruit, like the fruit roll-ups and call it a day at that point, you know, get the welches or bring me nothing. I did think the Melissa storyline was very interesting. Um. I, I loved it. But also I, like, I had a lot of feelings about it. I feel like this was a really complex one, but I did love the storyline itself. Right.

[00:47:52] This idea that Melissa teaches math. And so one of her former math students has made it big in finance and he's coming back to teach her class. Uh, or I'm sorry, to talk to the class about, you know, how math can benefit you and how it is to be very important and to be an inspiration to these kids and show them that they too can be very successful. Uh, I thought that was a cool storyline, especially knowing who Melissa is as a teacher. This does not work for any other teacher in the school.

[00:48:17] This only works for Melissa because we have established five seasons in that Melissa is okay with working in the margins of the rules. Sometimes I will say, you know, um, Abel points out that, huh? She is willing to acknowledge that the system is corrupt. So. Right. Sometimes you may need to take shortcuts to beat the system. Yes.

[00:48:46] And I don't think the show has ever addressed. What does it look like if the kids are not able to process that in a healthy way? Right. So there's one thing to, uh, you know, maybe like you said, cutting some corners, maybe when it comes to your interactions with oppressive systems, like the government, you know, big corporations, et cetera, et cetera. There's another thing to cut corners and get over on innocent people who cannot defend

[00:49:14] themselves who are vulnerable, who quite frankly, make the best targets when it's time to scam. And it feels like her student, Jonathan has taken that second route where he's getting famous or not getting famous, but getting, um, uh, making a lot of money, I guess, like getting wealthy off the backs of elderly people. And almost citing Melissa's teachings as, well, you know, this is exactly what you taught us. Right.

[00:49:44] Like you told us that like to exploit these weaknesses in people to get over. And so, uh, yeah, I thought it was very smart of the show to finally entertain that because five seasons in, you have to wonder how much a like, you know, scam adjacent teacher has influence on small children. Yes. And, but I think there are a lot of things that come up on here because as Ava points

[00:50:12] out later in the episode, this student in particular, has had a lot of teachers before and a lot of teachers after Melissa. Right. And Melissa knows that this student is a very bright student. Right. And they are, they are one of those like gifted students that, that teachers can really like acknowledge how intelligent they are at an early age. Sometimes that intelligence could be used for good.

[00:50:41] And sometimes it can be used for things like what we saw here. And I, I think that in a lot of cases, it's a matter of like, how can I twist this to be made for my benefit? So in like the case that, uh, this student was going through, it was the, you know, Melissa is somebody that isn't going to see somebody going to jail as like a deal breaker.

[00:51:10] Like this, this is a student on help, or this is a human bond beyond help because she knows a lot of great people in her life that have been to jail. We have heard her talk about it multiple times of like, of, uh, the people that she's friends with or related to that have been to jail at least once or twice or many times before. Um, so I think he was able to twist the situation to try to make it for his benefit so that he could get that letter.

[00:51:38] I don't think it's necessarily a cut and dry matter of Melissa taught them that the system is fixed and he took it and ran with it to be, let's take advantage of, uh, the elderly in our crypto scams and things like that. Like they're, um, and she says it is that like, they taught them to punch up, not punch

[00:52:01] down, which is the big difference in, uh, how these cases are, uh, evaluated here. So, and how Melissa looks at them. So I think that, you know, there's a, there's a lot of layers to this particular storyline. This could have been a main storyline, honestly. It really could have because look no further than Ava as someone who was pointing out that Melissa, the idea that this boy taught you, I mean that this boy was taught to be a scammer

[00:52:30] by your, by you. Yes. It's more of the scam. That's him scamming you to now take the responsibility and accountability for something that he has done. He's now putting the blame on you and making you feel guilty. Like, look at what you always told us. Look at what you made me do. If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be in this situation. So now you have to go and write me a letter so that I can get out of jail and go back to doing the same thing that you taught me how to do. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't have to take accountability for this.

[00:53:01] Um, or, or you can to an extent, right? But he still has to take accountability for his part and whatever, and whatever that looks like, this is not necessarily you feeling like you should be tied to writing this letter. If you want to write the letter, write the letter, right? It's on you. That's, that's on you. If you have to speak to his character as you knew him, right? You don't know him now, obviously. Uh, so like, if you want to say, Hey, and when he was in second grade, he was a good kid. He was smart, blah, blah, sixth grade, whatever the case may be say it.

[00:53:30] But now you don't get to, you don't, you don't have to, it's not your job to exonerate him right from the crimes that he's committed. Because he said, Oh, well, way back when I was in Abbott elementary, uh, you know, I was told these things and all the other life lessons that I had are null and void because I decided to use this one bit of teaching that I got from, uh, Melissa who never expressly told me to go do these things. Um, so yeah, I thought it was a very complex storyline for them to just, uh, kind of like

[00:53:58] throw in here, but also it, it was fun. We got to see Ava and Melissa kind of almost like a tag team. Uh, I do like the Ava and Melissa duos when we got them. Cause they're, they're on the level. I think it's there, they're two people that understand each other cause they both get it right. Like a Melissa is very much like you said, punch up and Ava's like, just punch, you know, like, Hey, it doesn't matter. You know, we, we, we are here to better ourselves. Uh, I know she is very interested in getting Jonathan's teachings because she took a pay

[00:54:28] cut in her relationship. You know, she's not dating the, an NBA champion as Janine points out. So yeah, there was, this was very fun. She shouldn't have returned all those Louis Vuitton bags. I'm just saying. We talked about this. We, we said it, you know, just who hates Wimbledon? Crazy. Right. Um, but yeah.

[00:54:51] So I, I, I do think like this, this lesson is the best to be told by Ava here because we knew that Ava said many times, you know, especially when she was younger, didn't have as much support that like she, uh, would scam to get by constantly. Right. So she is a, as you said before, just punch type of person. And she, but she knows how people like this student think where, uh, he very specifically

[00:55:20] went to somebody that he could put the blame on for his teachings. And then also because she hasn't seen him since he was what? A second grader that he would be able to, that he would be able to kind of twist the story and try to get her to feel bad about the fact that maybe he took some of what she taught them the wrong way. And even then, uh, you know, this is exactly how she wanted him to feel. This was very intentional on his part.

[00:55:49] And this is not something that Melissa needs to take to heart for herself. And it was the right person to tell her that because she is somebody that has, uh, dealt with and been this person before. Yeah. So as we kind of wrap talking about the main storylines, we do have to get into one other thing that Ava taught us. And that is that, uh, podcasting is not for information. It is for hot takes.

[00:56:15] And so I want to go through some of these hot takes that Ava had for her time on this Abbott life. And, uh, number one, an actor's height should be listed at during the, the movie that they are acting in. How do you feel? Um, I agree. However, I don't want it to be like every time they come, I think it should be like with the credits, you know, where it's like, you see their names on there and everything like at the intro.

[00:56:44] And then at the end, like we should see, we should see the stats. Agreed. Uh, she says it so I can know what I'm working with. And for me, it's just more like people on TV seem like a lot taller than they are in real life. When you meet people, it's very jarring. They like to use those shoes with lifts and everything. Um, or when people like, I see myself in other short people. So it's, I like to know when I have a comrade, um, in arms with me as well.

[00:57:11] So like, it does make me like, uh, actresses a little more when I know that they're also short, you know? Like not pretending everyone's tall. I'm tired of it. Right. And I don't trust people who are taller than me. Yeah. So I need to know who those people are. So I agree with this hot take. Uh, what about music should not be sad? Yes. We're talking about you. Give you absolutely. Absolutely. Music should not be sad. Okay. So I disagree.

[00:57:40] And here's why, because Adele has given me so much and I'm sorry. Yeah, I said it. I don't care. Listen, when I, if that, if that woman goes on tour and decides she's going to sit on a damn stool and seeing the most sad, the saddest, most ridiculous songs, I will sell all of my, all of my things and several people. If I can get ahold of them and to get the money to go sit in the back row and gently weep

[00:58:09] alongside Adele singing whatever she decides to sing. Yeah. I cannot, I cannot subscribe to this. I, I, but she also didn't say that music couldn't be angry, you know, just that it couldn't be sad. It's like, cause I want to call like rolling in the deep, a sad song. That's more of an angry song. Like I think rolling in the deep is in the clear. Now someone like you get that on my face. I got to be there for now. See, and that's what I'm saying.

[00:58:38] Like, let me, let me feel. Look at the world around us. Chappelle. We don't need any more. Allow me to feel stuff. I think he peaked at Adele and we don't need any more. You know, we don't need any more. You can work with what you have, but like, we need only happy songs from, for the time being. I hear you, but I have to be able to feel like, cause like, give me like, I'm not going to stop listening to take care by Drake.

[00:59:04] I'm not even the biggest Drake fan, but if I got to listen to Drake, send me sad boy, but Drake, send me sad boy. All the strippers hurt my feelings. Drake, send me, send me that. I don't want to hear. I, I, I, I, I need that. I can't listen to Drake in any form. Cause it just, now it comes out so whiny. Right? Like I, I can't take that man seriously. I'm sorry. Okay. And also, I mean, that, that child was right. I believe the children are a future.

[00:59:34] Give you on. I give me that. Give me that. I need that sad ass music. Sorry. I, I, the, uh, heart is a heartbreak anniversary. My soul. When that man sing, he sound like he's gargling like peanut butter and singing at the same time. And I'm like, he feels so deep. I, I, so yeah, I, one of my weaknesses is I love a good sad song. Um, okay. And the last hot take, which I actually think is just factual. Cheating is not a crime.

[01:00:02] I don't, I don't really have an opinion on this because she's right. Like it's, you shouldn't do it, but it's not illegal. But like, I think cheating on tests, it's not illegal, but like, like if you cheat on tests at like a collegiate level, that is. Right. At least school level. Like you won't go to jail for it, but most likely. Right. But you're definitely gonna get your degree revoked or get expelled.

[01:00:26] Like they're, you know, like, again, shouldn't do it, but I guess it's not a crime. Right. To a point. We, we gotta get Ava on this podcast. I, I've seen enough. I wanna know. Yeah. Like I, I, I'm kind of sad I didn't come here with my own hot takes because like, I think she's right. Like that is, podcasting is for hot takes. And I feel like you and me have so many, but I didn't come with any like list of them. Yeah. In general.

[01:00:56] Um, if you listen to this whole entire podcast, I'm talking to you listener. Um, put your hot takes in our comments, uh, youtube.com slash at recap kickback. You can see our beautiful faces, but you can use our comment section and tell us what is your hot take? Ooh. Yes. And then we can read them for our finale episode. If we get any really good ones. Ooh. If you have a good hot take, we will share our finale. Let us know. And it's gotta be good. Not nothing. No. Nothing boring. Also nothing problematic.

[01:01:24] We're not asking for team hot takes, please. I want like your genuine hot takes. Like you need to be piping hot, please. Y'all never listened to Corinne Bailey Ray's second album. That's some good, sad music. Okay. I'm just saying. Okay. Anyway. Still on the sad music part. I cannot agree. I cannot agree. But yeah, this one. I have another one. Dancing. Oh, go. Dancing. On the music one. Dancing should not be slow. That's my other one. I agree. I agree.

[01:01:54] I agree. Dancing should not be slow. All those. Like if we, if we must have sad music. Okay. Fine. Fine. But you better have a funky beat plan for it. Cause I am. No music. I will. I will table. The music should not be sad issue. Cause, uh, Chappelle and I are on two different camps about that, but dancing should not be slow. I refuse. Like, what are you doing? Grow up. Yeah. Pick up your feet. Yes. This is so much fun. Despite,

[01:02:23] despite the subject matter for these two episodes. Um, I think that the B plot and C plot of these episodes was fun as well. So, um, we will be back. Uh, we'll be back soon to talk about the last two episodes. If you're listening to this, you probably already watched them because they've been out for a minute, but thank y'all for bearing with us as we, uh, took a little time. I have, uh, two full-time jobs basically, and I be tired. And so we try to get y'all this Abbott stuff as quickly as possible. Uh, and we are going to try to get you a bet on black, as quickly as possible as well.

[01:02:54] Uh, Gia, what are you working on in the meantime? Well, Chappelle and I solidified a date for our Tristan Eps long episode of bed on black. So we will hopefully have that to you soon. I am very excited about that. And I'm still working on some survivor recaps with inside survivor for this season 50 roundup that I am doing with Christine Palin. Um, a really rough episode this week for all of us with taste.

[01:03:24] So, uh, you know that it was, it was a rough time, but we're still here. Uh, and I'm working on some pieces for bed on black, the sub stack as well. So give it a follow and we will have more content coming your way very soon. Yeah. And, uh, uh, as far as I'm concerned, uh, more, more Abbott stuff coming, obviously, uh, you know, that on black, obviously, but then Mari and I are getting back together to talk about Michael, the new, uh,

[01:03:53] theater release of the Michael Jackson biopic starring, uh, Coleman Domingo and, uh, and of course, Jafar, uh, Jackson as Michael. And we will be talking about that this week on recap kickback. So tune in for our takes about that movie and much, much more here. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast recap, kickback.com slash subscribe, but that's it, uh, uh, for G and myself classes over, but we will catch y'all next time. Peace.

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