Abbott Elementary Season 5 Eps 21 & 22 Recap

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[00:00:51] Finally, Abbott Elementary Season 5 Episode 21 AvaFest and Season 5 Episode 22 Miami are over, but class is here in session back at Recap Kickback presents an Abbott Elementary Post Show Recap. That's right, it's me, Chappell, and it has been a long time. It's been a Abbott long type of break that we've taken from the podcast, but we are back to talk about the final two episodes of Abbott

[00:01:21] Elementary. And with me, my co-host in all things Abbott, the principal of the podcast, Gia Worthy. Gia, welcome back. Oh, Chappell, after the week I have had losing Suri, I am so happy to be announcing that the war is over, Janine and Gregory get back together,

[00:01:45] and almost all is right in the world other than Suri not winning Survivor 50. But, you know, that is neither here nor there. Right. But also it matters because Suri is a canon event in Abbott. She is a canon character in Abbott Elementary. Mm-hmm. I think the next step, now, listen, in Suri's exit press, she said she was done with Survivor, right? Like, this was her, like, final, final call, essentially.

[00:02:14] Which I respect, because, like, Miss Ma'am, you've done your job, right? You've done your job. You should be a five millionaire by now. Right. Host the show. Host the show. But actually, though. So, you know, or Big Brother, whichever. I think she should be able to pick at this point. Yeah. Yeah. Or do both. You know, she's a busy woman. Yeah.

[00:02:35] But, aside from that, I think the next step for Suri, besides this dual hosting gig, is to be a new character on Abbott Elementary. It would be, like, we come in, get a motivational speaker, and it's Suri, or maybe Suri is the next AvaFest headliner.

[00:03:00] And instead of a game or performing, she just gets everyone to vote each other out, and then she's the winner at the end. Look, you're not going to get any argument from me, okay? I'm down for that. I think this makes sense. I mean, we know that the writers love Survivor. Survivor. Suri was the only character to have her full name said on the show when they had their whole little sorting system on here.

[00:03:28] I think we have to do it. I think they need, you know, I think Suri Tiffany Fields holds a place in Abbott Elementary's heart, as it does with ours. Let's bring her on the show. Yeah. Let's bring her on the show, or at least let's listen. Let's get her in the comments or something like that here on this podcast. Let's get her on the podcast or something. I just feel like we owe it to the fans here of Recap Kickback, because it has been a minute since we have podcasted about Abbott Elementary.

[00:03:56] We typically try to do these episodes every other week, but since the last time we recorded, life has been lifing, and so it's just been a matter of finding the time. And so we weren't able to do that. And I know people were very eager for us to talk about these episodes, because when we last left off, we basically were like, wouldn't it be crazy if Janine and Greg, we were a breakup? And then we were like, wait, oh, they're breaking up. Oh, that's crazy. That was wild.

[00:04:20] I didn't think they thought we were serious. Like, that was not a challenge. We were not asking you to, like, try and see what would happen. Exactly. And so then we dealt with the breakup, but then we just left and we never came back to kind of resolve it. But Abbott has dropped those episodes weeks ago. And so it is time for us to discuss those episodes. But I do want to thank all the people for being their patients and for listening to the podcast and supporting and all the people in the comments.

[00:04:46] We see y'all. We really do appreciate the assistance and we appreciate the like just the joint atmosphere here when we talk about Abbott Elementary, because this is still one of my favorite shows. And these two episodes were no different. Gia, we got a lot going on in these two episodes. And so we've already mentioned it. They're back together. We knew it wouldn't last too long. I did not think we would end the show. Right.

[00:05:16] I did not think we would end the show with them breaking up. Right. Like, you know, I figured eventually they would get back together. However, I wasn't sure if we would get it in the particular episode that we did. And I was also thinking that, like, maybe we had a few episodes arc of, like, Gregory groveling for forgiveness because this is all his fault. I know those things happened.

[00:05:44] I'm still team Janine on this front, though. Like, I understand that perhaps I'm the problem here, Chappelle. Maybe. I've talked this a couple of times, but all of this talk with Barbara intervening and Mr. Johnson intervening, talking about, well, have you tried seeing things from the other person's point of view? Or like, why is this so important to both of you and all this stuff? I'm like, no, Gregory was wrong. I still think Gregory needs to apologize, though.

[00:06:14] Right. Like, perhaps I am the problem. I admit that. But all of this seeing things from other people's perspective is nice and may lead to long-lasting, loving relationships. However, Gregory was clearly more wrong than Janine in this argument. And I hate the fact that we are pretending that they are both equally wrong here. Okay. Okay. So when we first talked about this, I definitely was with you, like, on, like, okay, the argument, I felt like Gregory was tripping. Yes. Comma but. Comma but.

[00:06:44] The breakup is Janine's fault. You know, for her to be like, well, maybe we should break up. That's her fault. you know like she said it and then i guess you know this argument this this conversation is really going to come down to like should should gregory have fought more for janine or whatever but i told you where i stand on that one i'm not going to beg nobody you know and i don't want to harass nobody you don't ever want to come off like you know no means no right you don't want to be that guy and so i didn't blame him for that at all the initial argument yeah for sure i was like

[00:07:10] i don't know about this gregory but uh especially because like sir this you counted lady pockets you know like oh yeah it costs too much money to get on flight you why are you trying to make financial decisions for both of y'all right now y'all ain't married you know and so i really i really didn't understand that part but once janine says hey this thing is over i think the ball's in her court and so i felt like you know i landed on there was there was problems on both sides good people

[00:07:34] on both sides but definitely people had their issues i think barbara and mr johnson do a great job of putting things in perspective when when barbara tells janine well you know why is it so hard for you to let go it feels you know why do you get to the point where you feel so important to you that you should let it go i mean that you can't let it go and she says well you know when you tell a man what you want he doesn't give it to you you gotta leave that's it and she asked her who taught you

[00:08:03] that and she's like well you know my mama and we have met janine's mom we have met her mom that is not the person that i would be taking relationship advice for and also janine that's when are you this strict about your your significant others giving you what you need

[00:08:25] or you're leaving you were with tarik for 20 years also the wild part here like be fucking for real janine janine we saw what you had right we see him like every five episodes he's going nowhere you were with that man forever you were paying all the bills he had no job and you but you draw the line at gregory being like i don't want to i don't want to fly to

[00:08:54] vacation with you at least he was willing to pay for it you'd have to pay for you and tarik to go on a vacation if y'all ever went on one so yeah we know they did not yeah so i started thinking what is it no i don't know the the this is a double standard janine because i don't know where you started to pick this up from your mom but it clearly was absent in the world of tarik i do have yeah i do have questions about that that was a little uh concerning to say the least like girl

[00:09:24] like i know this is your first time dating because we're not counting tarik that was right we can't that was like a symbiotic parasitic relationship like one of those things you see in nature with the fish it has like the parasite like a barnacle and it latches onto yeah exactly yeah so that that was not a relationship as far as far as i uh am assuming however

[00:09:49] however um we know that this is kind of like your first real relationship but also girl like it's up a little bit because like we know you're not your mom we know we're not and you don't want to be like your mom now not look i gotta whack janine once but let me go get gregory too mr johnson having to tell gregory well you know why do you feel like you can't fight for the woman that you that you want

[00:10:14] and he says my dad gave me the rules of what a man should do and jim this hits so close to home because as you as you know i have not i have never wavered when it came to gregory's response to be like all right let it go um but you know he had to look at the messenger that he also has right this person this his dad has some antiquated if not toxic beliefs in masculinity um uh men shouldn't

[00:10:39] wear flip-flops men should only cry one tear like denzel washington and uh glory um i'm with him on the flip-flops thing though now look when i was a wee lad i also was given these types of rules um but it was specifically about thong sandals my stepdad used to tell me men should not wear thongs i said any he meant that in any sense of the word thongs whatever you said sandals or otherwise

[00:11:06] you should not wear those as a man well i feel like thongs the other type is just impractical i mean both of them really are honestly if you really want to think about it flip-flops are atrocious i have pairs for like the shower where no one no one is seeing them so there's no proof really no one should be like why would you wear thong flip-flops when you could wear slides

[00:11:31] and slides are also flip-flops yes but they get a pass you get get a pass if you're wearing slides that's that's casual wear that's like that that's leisure wear right right yes that is that is essential you have to you have to have something for yourself right even if you have socks over like socks under your slides yeah yeah socks under your slides like over your feet under your slides

[00:12:03] but that slides get a pass we're not talking about slides when we're talking about this flip-flop debacle but i'm with him on that one yeah mr johnson basically had to say like you're taking advice from a man who wears sneakers on the beach you want to you might want to rethink that one of the craziest pieces of toxic advice about masculinity i got from my stepdad was that growing up my stepdad told me men did not drink out of straws i didn't start drinking out of a straw until i was in college

[00:12:30] and uh i had been very much divorced from my stepdad by that point but i think i was a sophomore in college when someone finally was like why don't you just drink out of a straw and i looked around and realized no i'm the only fool drinking out of this fucking cup that has been hand washed at golden corral you know like i was like wait everyone else had the sense to not put their lips on this cup

[00:12:55] and here i am the man not refusing to drink out of a straw and not for any reason it wasn't like oh this is gay it was just like no i was taught that that's not what men do after a while men put down the sippy cups and start drinking out of the damn side of the cup like everybody else and um yeah so sometimes our parents and uh you know figures that we look up to give us bad advice and teach us bad

[00:13:23] things about relationships to you yeah i'll i'll give you that i think that this is fair not my my not my parents my parents are perfect yeah they taught you you're perfect as well thank you yes yes yes we said we i know i said i might be the problem but that that was just me being humble right which

[00:13:43] you're good at very very good the uh the speaking of uh humble we have paper fest we do we do or is it abbot fest i have a hard time remembering it is a very abbot festival and i do not know who told uh dom otherwise you know dom is a character that we got a lot of in the mall but we haven't really

[00:14:10] seen a lot of dom since then and so i wondered if we were going to get more of him i was very excited to see him back uh but his role as like deputy to ava fest and helping ava out um it didn't go great right he was already afraid that was why it was going so poorly but ava is looking for a headliner we know in the past that this has been a very big deal for ava fest and dom is going to step up and

[00:14:36] try to find one if he can stop screwing everything else up he got the colors wrong he got the title the name of the uh event wrong uh and even the headliner he made it work but he showed up with a football player as the headline i was like i was like i think he doesn't know what ava fest is he did come with an eagles football player though right smart enough to know because you know if he

[00:15:01] showed up with a jets player or a cowboy set the school on fire right if it was a cowboy she would have gone to jail she was a she would have gone to jail yeah um he gives devontae smith to come in that's his play cousin i love a play cousin i love that that is now canon as well in uh ava elementary because i am the king of i'm the king of play cousins i got a bunch of them and so uh i do love that we got like play cousin is official term it is the ava elementary cinematic universe

[00:15:29] and in my life because i my play cousins might as well be blood if i claim you as a play cousin we family and so uh devontae smith shows up and uh although he's a wide receiver who does not play music he's going to find he's going to figure out that the the tactic that they can use for ava fest is um a celebrity football game in the gym and this goes over well because we know philly fans love

[00:15:54] football and devontae smith brought his super bowl ring and that is such a coveted thing in philadelphia i mean honestly though that was that was the kicker on there that they they were like yes did you bring the ring did you bring the super bowl that was funny yeah no it was it was a fun moment to see also of course ava fest you know being you know well three every time we have an ava fest i'm always very happy uh it's like my favorite tradition on abbott next to the field trips i think ava fest is

[00:16:22] top two i think the i think ava fest is always the more celebratory episode to me so i think i like ava fest more than i like the field trip episodes so think about how much we've been hurt in the field trip episodes over the years we've been through it on the field trip we've been through a lot don't get me started about the franklin institute yeah yeah we don't even i almost requested that we

[00:16:49] stop in philly when we went to philly like that we go by the franklin institute just so i could glare at it because it knows we talked about it for sure yeah yeah it was brought up yeah it was it was on the table for sure you guys think we're joking but this was literally a conversation we had the uber driver can speak for us i think they know us well enough to know that we were not joking

[00:17:13] no no this is absolutely something they would do yeah um other people throughout this episode were going through it ava and jacob had to figure out their plan to get janine and gregory back together initially jacob decides to go to uh janine with a notebook quote um obviously on gregory's behalf janine seeing straight through that and then ava decided to flirt with gregory again to send him back into the arms of janine which is of course how they got together in the first place i love that

[00:17:41] ava has now made her advances on gregory uh the reason why and the origin story of this relationship i like that they found a way to justify it it's like obviously this had to happen for them to get together there was no other way exactly uh without ava what would they be where would they be without this woman we would still be in a will they won't they situation we still be with tariq you know

[00:18:06] things were things were dark before ava things were dark so um although everybody is not a fan of making uh gregory and janine's relationship the number one priority obviously ava and jacob don't mind but it is mr johnson and barbara who do come in and give that advice and that wisdom that allows them to make up i think gregory has to admit that he was being very rigid and uh janine of

[00:18:36] course which is like admitting that she too had some issues here right and so once they once they finally got to talk it out uh it the the they figured this out very quickly right this is over the span of a day or so yeah because they didn't want to be broken up you could tell every time they were in the same room yeah they didn't commit to the breakup being broken up yeah um let me tell tell on myself real quick so i in in the past breakups that i have especially the most recent

[00:19:05] one i did not want to be broken up oh i thought i did you thought okay because i had to protect me i had to protect me right and you realize single life is hard it's hard out in these streets i don't mind single life because i'm a ratchet and i like to be in the streets was calling my name i'm not gonna hold you the streets the one thing i was excited about was calling to me right the streets

[00:19:29] were the high point the issue is that i could tell i deserved better and but i was getting kind of like uh mistreated uh and i could tell but i also really liked her more than she liked me and i could and that was driving me crazy because what in 2026 liking somebody more than they like you is crazy i feel that so i'm not gonna let you run over me and then me be sad puppying behind you so i had to

[00:19:57] break off things right yeah and then the next day i was like damn i really liked her more than she like we like she's fine she pulled a gregory she's like well damn that's messed up i can't believe that we're uh broken up we didn't say like we need to get back together baby please i miss you you know i'm like what what what so it's just over so it's over for real so for real and it took everything in my power g and not to text to be like oh so you really just gonna let me break up

[00:20:26] so you are so much stronger than me because it needs to end in a fight i'm sorry it needs to end in a fight right none of this nonchalant bullcrap at least i'm gonna be if no one else is gonna be angry i'm gonna be angry i i really put like a like a heart like i'm not doing this i think we should hey this isn't working for me honestly i value your friendship but this is it and i really thought

[00:20:52] like in the moment i really thought like i was gonna be okay with that and then the next day that's where because it like i understand by what i did it was for the great it was for the right reasons you made the right choice right and i wasn't looking to be begged for but once i wasn't begged for i said man damn maybe janine was right you know like i kind of felt her i felt the pain like right so you're not so you're really not going to text me and just be like what's up you know

[00:21:20] seeing this thing on tv thought about you hurts the reason like on survivor and getting that crazy like nothing so so yeah all that to say um this was this was fun to watch because they because they didn't want to be broken up it didn't take too much to push them back into their arms they just had to realize that what barbara was saying was true there was a there's an underlying reason why they are having this fight and it's mostly because uh they've lost sight of what the whole point of

[00:21:48] the vacation was they were going to go to the outer banks because they wanted to go hang out and be on the water and relax together as a couple and instead they got caught up on the oh how are we going to get there how much is it going to cost who's gonna what are we going to ride in what are we gonna get it's like none of that matters because you just want to be around each other so they decide that maybe there's another body of water they could go and visit and hang out and luckily for us

[00:22:12] and them uh pesca pexa is coming up and it is in miami and so they are going to parlay their float their tickets from the district to their trip to miami so and then go from there to only have to basically pay for one other like half half a trip uh to the bahamas which is of course a lot cheaper

[00:22:35] from florida and save some money and now they go from rusty old outer banks which i still think is that tv show on netflix uh to now you can't tell me it isn't right like i'm like this is a place where teens hang out and it's the marshland right as well have told me you're going to westeros right right that's that's how i feel this is like this is not a real place stop saying outer banks but outer banks like it's a real thing it's never going to be a real thing they're going to bahamas

[00:23:02] instead y'all broke up over a magical place they broke up over the outer banks imagine breaking up with somebody over the fucking outer banks it's not even real it's so embarrassing listen they parlayed the trip to the bahamas that's much better that's how you do it i'm so proud of them i think they had it in them i knew they i knew they could do it i wasn't i wasn't fully confident that they could do it but i was happy to see that they could they just needed to be steered

[00:23:30] in the right direction by barbara and mr johnson and don't we all i want to talk to you about my president and yours courtney pierce yes i i don't even i i was is she ava jr is she ava from the past is she future ava one day she will inherit the school what how what can we say about this little

[00:23:55] girl well as we know canonically ava owns the school right yeah this has been established um so i think by inheritance rights courtney will be inheriting the school one day but until then i think the most logical way to look at it is like courtney is a pokemon evolution that will eventually

[00:24:18] evolve into ava like ava is the final form yeah yeah yeah and courtney's almost there like she's ready she's hatching you know she's right there she's got she's got the chutzpah she's got the charisma uniqueness nerve and talent we love that for her uh she just needs she just needs to get a little taller yeah get a little more life experience under her belt she's in jacob's class if i'm not

[00:24:48] mistaken yep this is she is in the eighth grade is she in the eighth grade i think she i think her and my other favorite andrew they're both eighth graders this year yeah does that mean we're gonna lose courtney soon because i don't like this she might be my favorite character on the show she's out there i mean she's not ava but she's right i mean it's like i mean it's her and ava like a a1

[00:25:15] and a2 you know ava and mini ava at this point right episode was everything oh that was so good i have to i i i imagine i don't know what time of year is this for the like they're what time are they in miami are they like officially are they're out of school at that point right are they i mean it does

[00:25:41] feel that way because they did go back to school mr johnson obviously is going to be doing some things while they're gone he said they like to come back um and uh the teachers like to come back and work when school is out so yeah i think i think school is out um but we didn't get like a graduation or nothing like that maybe maybe they're actually in seventh grade or they kind of like kept it vague so that they can keep them on for next i feel like for some of those kids that we first

[00:26:06] started with andrew courtney chad um all my favorite favorite children i i feel like they would have made a bigger they're gonna make a bigger deal eventually of them graduating right going on to high school like i i just don't see it being like a casual send-off on there right right right right i don't know either because i think she's becoming too big of a cast member this episode she was the c plot

[00:26:35] um it was uh a lot of these kids were in the hallway basically trying to figure out a little hall pass scam who among us haven't you know fudged the numbers on a hall pass here and there it's what kids do you know it's me i'm kids i definitely did this this what are you talking about i was running a we didn't have hall passes when i was a kid in our school we like we had a sign out sheet so you had to sign out when you were going to the bathroom and then you had to sign in when you came back in

[00:27:04] and so your teacher could shame you when if you took too long you were gone too long yeah so we had we had a hall pass it was like a sheet of paper but it was on almost like a little clipboard but it wasn't a cool size clipboard it was like a clipboard that you could kind of palm uh and so you would take it and so i and it was bright red so the people would see you in the hallway they knew you had a clip a hall pass um but prior to that the reason they started using the red clipboard is because we used to

[00:27:31] just use paper hall passes and you know people would make their own you know uh copies right people i'm not gonna say it's my contribution to my high school but i'd like to say that they should have named the hall passes after me because i definitely the chapelle memorial hall pass yeah

[00:27:52] i used to what i i realized okay this is a legend let's hypothetically if a kid realized that one of the teachers just signed their name by putting a big old x and they just decided to just copy that x several times over it is it is and so the school had to make some changes and so we had we had we put

[00:28:18] they put a stop to the hall uh hall pass uh racket that was going on but here uh these students are going to try to do one and um you know they're not they don't really have it figured out but courtney is there and of course she's got the she's got the eye of the tiger she's already know she knows how to do these things she she laces them up on what they should do and melissa overhears the entire interaction

[00:28:43] and decides oh i should just let them get in trouble you know they'll they'll screw this up until she sees courtney stepping in and basically like kingpinning this uh this whole thing that they realized that courtney would be a great mastermind and they even think about inviting her to go rob sephora i'll say rob but you know uh still random makeups and lotions i guess for sephora a little shoplifting ain't no ain't look it never hurt nobody it's it's honestly like girlhood at this

[00:29:09] point who amongst us has not shoplifted a little lip gloss from a sephora i have it because i cannot afford to be forced to pay for it right as a kid like i did not have sephora money right however i'm sure other kids were braver than i i've seen some kids go into claire's and come out with some things with some uh earrings and toe rings and stuff like that and belly button rings look just a few things

[00:29:37] again girlhood right yeah and so this is normal but melissa doesn't want courtney to get she's it honestly sounds like she don't want courtney to get the bug it's like uh jacob and melissa can tell that courtney is a little bit more worldly than some of these kids she's you know she's she's not like these other children and so they know that if courtney does pick up this habit of stealing then maybe she could end up like another one of melissa's students who recently

[00:30:04] went to jail for financial crimes and so uh melissa and jacob have a plan they're going to steal courtney's backpack which honestly is the only thing that they did in this episode effectively did they do it effectively no because she stole it back yeah she knew like right away that it was getting stolen and they were trying to keep her from being a thief but instead they they stole

[00:30:33] and she was not even she was never even going to consider this she didn't want to steal she actually told the other kids not to steal courtney is not only the mastermind and the ringleader she is uh she is my future president i mean i would have voted for her this election if i knew she was an option if she was an option dear god but you know they have these age limits and people want to vote for

[00:30:59] i'm still mad about i'm still mad about i have not moved on and frankly i shouldn't i deserve to still be mad right and won't yeah we won't move on sorry we will not absolutely not yeah so those are the big notes from uh ava fest it seemed like fun as usual uh they're excited to see gregory and janine getting back together and just in time because they're about to head off uh to miami now i did

[00:31:25] find out in this episode one of the most disturbing things gregory raw dogs flights he doesn't watch a movie he just sits in silence with his head straight forward disturbing you know i started to question like if i wanted them to get back together at that point i didn't know if i wanted to i don't know if i want janine around that type of energy it's not safe it's not safe i don't i cannot remember

[00:31:50] the last time i was on a flight and i didn't have headphones in at least i so i usually bring a book with me but the but i have something to do like i can't i also can't learn half the time i'll do i'll just do an early morning fight and sleep on the way there but just straight up not anything no form of entertainment just and like you don't even have to pay for it the flights with the movies

[00:32:17] like give you the things for the movies yeah uh fly five now i mean come on the future is now i don't know but that was honestly more concerning to me than them wanting to go to a fictional place right right right um whatever the outer banks is so um mr johnson is going to be staying behind although i thought i i got really excited you there was a brief i really thought they were gonna

[00:32:46] trip i really thought they were gonna find an excuse for him to go he subbed some classes i don't i don't know why they wouldn't want him to go yeah they could i mean i guess i don't know they just it was it would have been so good the the little side plot mr johnson is doing when he's at the school you know like uh basically having to have the parking lot repainted it did nothing

[00:33:10] for me they should have brought him to miami they i want to see mr johnson in miami having the time of his life while everyone else is going through a crisis right right and then mr johnson also could go through a crisis i mean he worked there too so i'm just saying um yeah but he's mr johnson he's had a million jobs he'll oh yeah he wouldn't care about this he would like i think he'd care

[00:33:33] but he would not be worried about his financial future or anything of the of the sort yeah he's like ava this is the the least paying job that she's had in a long time and i think mr johnson is the same way so uh ava and uh is gonna make sure ocean is flown out on the district's dime and so are all the teachers now immediately gia 13 seconds into the damn episode i said

[00:33:59] you mean to tell me the district that y'all work for has the money to fly y'all to miami i thought that was weird okay i'm glad i wouldn't just me that is a serious plot hole and i mean they kind of explain it they do explain it when we get into the episode but i still it does not make sense to me yeah like the moment the district told them that they were flying into miami somebody should have said wait a goddamn minute yeah absolutely not this the same school that was in a mall

[00:34:28] this season yeah and then delayed you guys being able to actually like go back into your old to your original school right like be for real be for real this is not this is not the district that will fly you to miami yeah yeah wait a minute you guys were auctioning off like school supplies like at begging them for like pencils the last time we saw the district so something wasn't adding up and we were right to be questioned to be questioning this i'm surprised they weren't questioning it more

[00:34:57] honestly honestly if someone told me we're going to miami i also would not question it you know what you're right that's it let me stop let me shut my ass up because i'm not i'm just getting we were thinking about this in a more worldly perspective because it was not us going to miami right because all i'm gonna do is pack and be there yeah if uh but if a recap kickback if you like called me and said the recap kickback team is going to miami i wouldn't quite pack your bags we're going tomorrow

[00:35:24] yeah i wouldn't question it yeah just get on the plane yeah so when they land in miami jacob is popular with the other liaisons because you know he has this new role as a liaison and they seemingly really enjoy him uh and this is of course unsettling to most people because very corny group of people uh but at least jacob is popular there are rumors circulating completely unfounded rumors at first

[00:35:51] but you know gee these are my favorite type of rumors um they don't need to be founded i want to hear them uh mr johnson said something in the first episode it was something to the effect of um there's no private there's no private information at public school and i said honestly yeah tell me the mess you're right you're right yeah yeah he right so when i said there's rumors i'm like give them to me and the rumors are that the superintendent got fired uh the school of the future is going completely ai

[00:36:19] they are shutting down 15 of the schools and representative sloss is getting a facelift after she got slapped all of this is good these are all good when i say i want mess this is the type information i need this is the exact tea that i want heavy on the facelift one i want to know more of that yeah and i know where and i need the pictures i need the before and after i need the

[00:36:42] procedures listed i need to know if it was good work or bad work where'd you get the money if it was good work and uh yeah and uh it's it's representative sloss so that makes me like this even more i know right because she deserved to be anyway listen girl like i was uh i don't condone violence most times but you know every once in a while but i might turn i might turn away it's gonna happen to

[00:37:10] someone on this show right they get slapped on camera right right right right right right right um so while at the convention there's another convention going on um i was very surprised to see mr warden there and not for the reasons why i thought i would have been surprised like i just

[00:37:31] thought like this was not the uh i don't know why they felt that the side plot was necessary but i was invested the minute they presented it this was such a good side plot honestly uh it was amazing this this convention is for mostly fans not to be confused with only fans but pretty damn close from what i can tell and i'm assuming there was a copyright issue which is why they couldn't call it

[00:37:57] only fans also this is a children's show it's not a children's show but this show is pretty pg you know i'm not i don't think they're going to like um i don't think they're gonna go full you know like oh yeah that's this person got the only fans they're gonna keep yeah we don't keep they don't want the kids actually looking up only fans right so mostly fans here is having convention mr warden is going to be trying to get people to come with him to these uh little breakout sessions because we find out that he is a content creator

[00:38:28] which is interesting i i support i support it you know what what is it exactly do you what do you think mr morden is doing i support an individual's right to make money as a content creator oh that's good that was a good one okay okay that was good i support but the fact that he

[00:38:53] was so open to for it and inviting other people to join him at these panels i was unprepared for the openness of it all he even showed us one of his friends yeah we met a woman who sits on cakes yeah and she apparently she makes a lot of money doing it she could and she even offered to show what types of cakes are best yeah honestly like that's the type of camaraderie you need in

[00:39:22] these conventions imagine you're starting your mostly fans you don't really know what you're doing you're trying different things out wondering why you're still not able to make ends meet and there's this lovely woman that sits on cakes and is able to guide you through your mostly fans journey i think they're they're i mean this is probably a shock that i want but their breakout sessions sounded a lot more entertaining than the ones that we had to do with pexa um because we find out

[00:39:48] barbara is leading a discussion i got really excited but it was like the joy of teaching it's like oh barbara don't nobody want to hear that barbara we know like first of all this is not the pesca conference barbara that we know and love so this was a this was a plot hole to me because barbara would never agree to this she's there for a good time not a long time not a long time yeah so uh we

[00:40:15] find out from the dean of community i think everybody was in this episode melissa's sister was here morden's here the dean that the new superintendent yeah what what how do we well we i guess we haven't even got there yet but i was shocked i i googled this man's face just to make sure i was not bugging

[00:40:36] like that is jeffrey owens right i screamed and he also so i don't watch the pit but but i know i know that dom's character is on the pit because everybody's in on like the abbott elementary instagram stories anytime dom is in an episode make jokes about how they need to leave dom alone because

[00:41:01] he just got done at a night shift right and jeffrey owens who is the new superintendent for those that uh are not making the connection formerly on the cosby show i believe right yeah he was elvin uh he was he is also guest starring on the pit and he is now our new superintendent on abbott elementary

[00:41:27] yes i was so happy to see him um yeah no this is great i think like i said all the people was here even when i saw melissa's sister i got really excited i was very excited and they seem to be on very good terms right now she saved her sister a seat which is very unlike melissa uh so i loved she would the only person i uh the only other person on this show that she would save a seat for is

[00:41:51] barbara so it's a pretty big deal yeah uh so we find out from the dean of community that uh that's literally the only way i know him i'm glad you also like that is the dean from community i don't even know what his name was on this this particular episode in my notes i just have the dean uh soup has been indeed fired and we have a new superintendent coming in jeffrey owens uh the ai schools they're

[00:42:20] not happening that's too expensive for this district and that's when i said so is this trip and they said so is this trip i said okay bet because as long as y'all are on the same page as me yeah and then we find out the reason why they can afford this is because there have been some pay cuts 20 schools are closing not 15 and this is another one of those moments where i really love the writing of this show they decide to list out the schools that will be closing in alphabetical order and they start with

[00:42:47] addington and i'm like well that was close only to find out that no they saved abbott to the end for some unexplained reason and it's just such good right it was so funny the all the teachers are mad about it they they acknowledge too that oh wow look abbott got skipped we're safe and they are not safe they're all losing their jobs gian

[00:43:14] now i was really worried about because this is a season finale and we've had we've had cliffhanger season finales before right like this is not new to us so it's like is season six going to be them all finding different jobs or they is there going to be some hail mary in season six where eventually they all come back together so i'm already trying to digest like what the plot holes are

[00:43:39] or like what the plot lines could possibly be within abbott elementary closure and so i was not sure how we how the rest of the episode was going to go or even if we would get a resolution in this next uh in within this episode within like the next 20 minutes what have you before we were done here so i was really worried about like where we were in the show it's still and i still have

[00:44:06] questions but i'm i'm interested in the follow-up with it but the rest of the episode has some really good parts here yeah i'll say i was concerned too because i know the show has alluded to barbara um you know retiring before so i thought maybe this is their out uh you know there's just been different moments where i thought okay maybe they could switch things up because we haven't had a

[00:44:32] lot of conflict this season uh you know it's just and we typically get a big bad guy and i thought okay maybe the district's back at that back at it again uh but they do really tidy this up very good um because of course the teachers are devastated at first janine is like trying to come up with a plan gregory's watching naked unafraid because it's when he thinks the best uh but at some point janine uh

[00:44:59] ends up going to one of these breakout sessions with mr morton and she starts thinking about ways to supplement her income she actually starts really considering uh mostly fans because um yeah it's hard being a teacher she's already probably broke and now she needs to make money and i yes absolutely respect it but listen this is not this is not a gag to me this is not there's no joke with this

[00:45:21] i respect it get your money get your money janine yeah um melissa's choosing rage and she's trying to hype everybody up i loved her doing this uh by the end of the night she well she's telling all the people screw the man uh riling up the teachers telling them to use the money for the trip and blow it at the mini bar gia to me this is the only answer and i'm not saying this tongue in cheek i'm not being i'm not joking you just got fired and they're paying for your trip have fun

[00:45:51] what that honestly the most unrealistic thing about this is that that was not the immediate reaction afterwards right because that would have been my reflex would have been like oh well what the hell are we doing that was that is not the like conclusion at the end of the show that is like that is the first thing i'm doing is getting drunk at the mini bar on their dime the plot should have been how do we get

[00:46:15] the teachers to care about the convention because every i've worked in education for a long time every teacher i know would have been like well fuck it and it's been all about their day i'm already here yeah as much as we love working in education and when i say love i mean you know question mark but i'm like yeah strong strong like it's complicated it's fine yeah yeah we're content

[00:46:41] you know um but even then i'd be sad for two seconds and i'm like i'm about to get mine because what do you mean you flew me to miami this is basically my vacation and my like my two weeks notice this is all the things at once um so you can't try to make me sad in miami stop it with with a potential open bar that will soon be open stop playing with me i'll see how open that bar is

[00:47:07] right don't tell me there's a little bit of other drama i mean we we get uh uh gregory talking to ocean at a different point uh because um gregory is starting to have some thoughts about feelings and they survived this huge massive fight about nothing and now he thinks maybe it's time

[00:47:32] to take things to the next level and luckily ocean is there um not drawing attention to his uh to himself trying to be ugly trying his hardest be ugly but it seems like his inner glow is he's a good person and so people can still find him attractive oh that's i think it's the miami air you know you find a lot of things attractive there look as a person who basically relies on inner glow

[00:48:00] and that's it because the outer glow is not always there but the inner glow that's kind of my bag so i i get it i get it's hard to turn that off um but yeah he's able to give um kind of be there for gregory as gregory announces like you know i'm thinking about proposing and uh thinking about maybe trying to get ava's job i said no slow your own slow down can't do that sir be so for real yeah stop it so

[00:48:28] one dream at a time please things don't look great because you know these are big steps that he's about to take as they find out they're fired jacob is not going to take this line down he goes to talk to jeffrey owen about this and he announces that you know like you just bought abbott the furnace and all this other stuff and this is enough to get abbott reinstated as a school uh because jeffrey always said hey we already paid for that furnace we're not investing in that building just for y'all

[00:48:54] to close it down sorry you're you're going back to work so this is a big win for the abbott teachers and good for them because the night before they got smacked i'm talking about drunk they did what needed to be young this might be my favorite of the like field trip finales i'm counting this as a field trip it was just a field trip for the teachers yeah yeah um barbara's the mvp oh see barbara

[00:49:24] specifically is the mvp yeah her hopping up on stage joining the band and then demanding that the bar be open only for the bar to oblige i said no is she only barbara could do that right well barbara and probably like ava no just barbara just barbara i think i think if if barbara howard looked me in the eye and said open this bar i'm not asking questions right it's open yeah it's open um she

[00:49:54] does try to crowd surf at one point and does attempt i mean it's not a great idea but she makes it happen um and so she did what needed to be done it was a party and it was working like i'm saying like even i'm like if they bounced back so well they were still able to go to the conference again i am a person who would not have been there the next day they they seemingly were like whatever we don't care we already fired i don't know why anybody would go to the conference at the very end just like

[00:50:24] what are you talking like right and i'm hungover before right and and then jacob jacob who i assume would be the most hungover because he was on a hunger strike and then drank his life away he still managed to bounce back and basically save abbott elementary and this this will uh kind of empower him to think about maybe taking a stronger role at the district i've been waiting for this jacob

[00:50:52] finding his purpose i love it yeah so a lot of the teachers are you know i mean i guess we'll look like melissa's sister for one but i like a lot of the other teachers are kind of shocked because abbott is coming back but there are going to be some changes people are getting fired and yes this is what i'm

[00:51:12] scared about who's getting yeah hmm i don't think anybody from our group is getting fired no no i don't think it's anybody in the main group because i think if like okay if it's ava deciding she's protecting her friends even if she won't admit that they're her friends right right but like is dom's character

[00:51:36] going to be sidelined because his actor might be getting some more time i don't i don't watch the pit but like does dom have to decide about what tv show he's doing now dom um maybe uh maybe mr morton we see he has a side hustle that's been going pretty well don't you think i feel like would they fire would they write out mr morton's character

[00:52:02] right before season six starts i mean just because he gets fired doesn't mean he can't come back yeah i just been fired twice i mean this is also fair i don't know i just don't see i feel like he's been like the one reoccurring character in the abbott elementary staff that's like pretty consistent he was in a lot of season five i mean yeah season five i think firing mr morton could add a different

[00:52:29] dynamic to the group because right now they act like they don't care about him but what happens if they do what happens if they fire mr morton it throws off the delicate balance exactly they miss him and then we have to spend an episode of them lobbying to get mr morton back or something like that or maybe oh darker timeline what if they fire some of the cafeteria staff they can get rid of morton yeah he can go they can get rid of morton i'm sorry no one

[00:52:57] no one touches my precious cafeteria staff i refuse yeah sounds that's what i'm saying like they could they could do it and then bring these people back i can see it happening but they do kind of gloss over that part because we we get bigger news even than people getting fired um we need a vice principal for ava and although ava has her suggestions um it's pretty obvious to everybody else that it should be

[00:53:20] gregory and now look at this gregory goes from being unemployed and broken up to uh a promotion and about to propose to janine with a jewelry discount with the jewelry discount it's like his dream come true save some money get the girl get a new job everything's coming up gregory in this episode or in these two episodes yeah it took him a while it did it did but we got to apologize in my opinion

[00:53:48] apologize they didn't apologize he needs to apologize more he there should have been some groveling on his end i still stand by that i know we talked it over and we came to an agreement i'm still not sold uh fair fair i suppose a very sweet proposal would help things okay well we shall see um now i don't think we're gonna get that proposal like in the bahamas that would be nice

[00:54:16] uh but it seems like very soon i don't think oh yeah no it wouldn't be in the bahamas going yeah but the question is when and where and if it's going to be happening i mean i don't think they're going to save it for the finale of next season but maybe you know abby we're good for a mid-season finale i think oh wait this is what i think this is what i actually envision happening right so we don't get

[00:54:42] the bahamas vacation like that's like one of those like oh this is what you missed in the summer type things we'll see like some photos or something in the season six premiere i think the first episode or two is going to be focused around gregory trying to find the perfect time to propose to janine right okay i did i think that or setting up his perfect proposal if he already knows what he's

[00:55:06] going to do by episode like two or three they get engaged right okay we have like wedding planning stuff and a bunch of other side plots obviously abbot's doing their thing um all the changes at abbot and everything adjusting mid-season finale focuses mostly on abbot after that going into

[00:55:28] the season six finale is like the lead up to individual wedding okay okay i like what i'm envisioning here i think the proposal is going to be right away and then the actual like the lead up to the wedding will be like where we end season six okay okay yeah let's see let's see i've thought about this a lot

[00:55:56] okay obviously and i like that i like that and i want this relationship is very important to me look this that this this podcast was built on this relationship so you know it is what it is i want the listeners to let us know um because season five is over but we don't have to be done talking about abbot let us know in the comments if there's any off-season podcast you want us to do anything you

[00:56:19] want to talk about ranking the field trips or the halloween episodes or you know um some fantasy casting or a brant steel there's so much we could do to keep the abbot feed popping i think we need to do a hunger game simulation with some of the Abbott elementary tasks oh okay that's where we need to go not with the kids to like just that maybe like just the staff all right all right all right okay

[00:56:45] i think we got we have enough recurring characters where we could flesh out a cast we could definitely get a cast and like there are a few other adults in there that i think like tarik is basically staff at this point yeah i mean we're gonna buy erica for sure oh erica's in there and erica's winning okay like it's my just i i envision her she's gonna be like this i know ava has to be in

[00:57:09] district one because she's luxury but erica would be let's see i gotta think of all the districts look i've never seen the hunger games so you haven't i you know i was calling that woman i was calling that woman cactus evergreen until last year when scally yelled at me so uh we got a lot to talk about a lot to think about as well as we have several months before abbot comes back but gia

[00:57:38] until then is there anything else you want to talk about before we wrap this podcast up yes i have a very sad question for you chappelle oh no i know but i i feel like we've we've alluded to this beforehand but and it's been speculated but nothing is confirmed okay do we think season six is the final

[00:58:02] season no no no stop it stop it okay 10 seasons in a movie 10 seasons in a movie all right i like the way you think because i also want 10 seasons honestly 10 seasons is low but i think as long as we get to double digits i'll be content i think there's going to be a point where they we run out of upper mobility for these people i think that this season proved that you know these people are moving up we saw janine last season or a couple seasons ago kind of like when she started working for the

[00:58:28] district and started to really develop herself professionally we see um greg gregory is now moving into the vice principal spot barbara has alluded to retiring before it's like how many seasons of abbey are we going to have with gregory as the vice principal um you know the jacob's obviously trying to get more active with the district but these people you know although the school is not going anywhere anytime soon it seems um they they are going to try to move up to bigger and better things

[00:58:55] i mean don't some teachers do teach the same grade for 40 50 years but that's not really how we operate in 2026 anymore uh you know so i could see people moving up to like assistant principal positions or you know different different positions trying to get more money so i i highly doubt that they're going to be able to stretch this out for four more seasons that said i'll take every single episode of oh because it's so much fun it's still my favorite show a hundred percent give me as many

[00:59:24] seasons as you want i don't care how many times you have to jump the shark abbott elementary dude i will still be watching right and me too and so uh yeah with that yeah tell everybody where they can find you until we come back to talk about more abbott you can follow me on twitter instagram blue sky and tiktok at classically gia for all of my reality tv shenanigans um on sub stack

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