Bel-Air Season 3 FINALE - Episodes 9 & 10 Recap

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[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_02]: That said, I'm Chappelle and I'm going to take you through Bel-Air Season 3 Episode

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: 9 and 10, the finale of Season 3 with none other than my co-host who you all

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_02]: come to grow and know and love here on the Recap Kickback.

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It's Pooja.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Pooja what's good?

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything man.

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, read like if you're watching the video, you see what I've said under my name.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: What just happened?

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: What a finale.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: More importantly, what a final five minutes of the finale.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So much happened.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That finale was nuts and I cannot wait to talk about it with you.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: We had some big surprises in these two episodes I think.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Episode 9 and episode 10 almost don't even feel like they're connected because there

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_02]: was so much going on in episode 9 and then episode 10 just focuses on Hillary,

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_02]: her wedding to Lamarcus.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And then like you said, that last five minutes of content just kind of takes you and says,

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: hey, if you thought about tapping out, Season 4 is going to come one day and you

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_02]: want to be ready for all the drama that's coming then.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So I agree there was so much but I'm so happy that I get to unpack all of this

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: with you.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Can't wait man.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Fert, okay.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to bear.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_00]: How do you want to go about this today?

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I feel like there's a lot.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So do you want to just start from the top, go sequential from nine on or do you

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_00]: want to hip hop around?

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we got to hop around.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we got to hop around because there are some big headlines that we got to talk

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: about and about these last two episodes.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So first things first, your boy Drew is back.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_02]: My boy Drew is back.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what?

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I can go lie to you for a split second.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh man, not true.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I thought, no, I like this.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I like, I like any time Will and Carlton have an external enemy, you know, when they're

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_02]: fighting each other, I don't like it.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But when they have somebody they can team up against, somebody who like they can rally

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_02]: against, that is kind of my bag.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And so when Drew came back, I got very excited because I love a good villain and

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Drew's the worst kind of villain.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's a villain that really don't have a lot of power.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_02]: He just wielding the little bit that he has over Will and Carlton.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And so seeing him back in this finale episode as the investor, the person who

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: is now going to take Blacksess to the next level and, you know, maybe push his

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_02]: influence on the brand.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I was very excited to see that and I'm hoping that it seeps over into season four.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Same.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I really think that they kind of gave us a broader picture of things to come because

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: ultimately it just looked like, okay, Blacksess was a successful thing, but then

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: they're going back to school.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think adding in Drew into this really adds another layer of complexity.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: As of right now, it looks like they're all going to find common ground to work

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_00]: together, but also like Carlton said, beating him up was one of the highlights of the

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: year.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's always in the background.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_02]: One of my favorite moments of this entire series was Carlton beating up Drew.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, again, we talked about this.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Carlton is not one to be F with him and Jeffrey.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, maybe at first glance they don't seem like they're that threatening,

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_02]: but they got them hands and feet for you every time.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm very excited to see what's going to happen here because Will had to

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_02]: make some moves this episode with the Blacksess.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: They had a lot of investors interested in the brand.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And so Carlton was tied up with all the mirror drama that I'm sure we're going to

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: talk about.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And so Will had to take, you know, the matters into his own hands.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: He was saying he could have sold to the highest bidder, but instead he wanted to

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: work with somebody who had similar interests as him and Carlton in helping black and

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: brown people.

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and so while at first glance, that sounds amazing.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It turns out that it's true.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And so now you have two people that really don't get along or three people that

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_02]: really don't get along, two different sides that are combating, but they both

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: have the same goals.

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And if they're on the same team, they should be working together, right?

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that should be the logical outcome.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But who knows?

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, who knows?

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think this is kind of common.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you see a lot of organizations that do the same exact work, but

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: necessarily move in the exact same way, have the same exact like motivations.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But the outcomes look different.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think it's out of the ordinary for competing sides to, you know,

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe go their own routes and try to tackle the problem.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: But in theory, it should be better if they're all putting their heads

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_02]: together.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they typically say three is company.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So not a crowd.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And we see a little bit of that with Uncle Phil as well.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He will be reaching out to Omar Campbell, and now they're even going to

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_02]: be partnering and helping with this whole gentrification issue.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So the backstory on that is that we know that Omar was not having it

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_02]: with Uncle Phil.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Uncle Phil wasn't having it with Omar.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Uncle Phil wanted to make sure there were a lot more protections in the

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_02]: contracts for this like development, right?

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: They want to make sure they use black contractors and local businesses

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: were protected and got tax breaks and all this other stuff.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Omar wasn't having it.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But by the end, they were able to put their heads together and really

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: come to an agreement.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And now they've established a new coalition that will be the main

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_02]: investors for this project.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to take all of those things in consideration.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And so really, it feels like the community is all on one page.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And now, again, we see those two sides that might have different views,

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_02]: but they have the same goals, able to come together and work together

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and collaborate in a way that is successful and benefits everybody

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_02]: despite some of the drama we saw unfold over these last three

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_02]: episodes.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was probably the quickest tidy up of a plot line you'll

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: ever see.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, oh, my God, Jas went to jail.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_00]: What's going to happen?

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: He has a record.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God, Will's confessing to the crime.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to go to jail only for episode 10 to be like,

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: no, everything's dropped.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_00]: We've forgotten about the arson.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't exist anymore.

[00:07:22] Cool.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think a friend of the podcast, J West tweeted out that

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_02]: the last two episodes should have been called Everybody Hates Will.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And for a second, it really did feel like that because this

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_02]: whole Jas situation, Carlton immediately throws Will under the

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_02]: bus and says, like, why are you all in my business when y'all

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: should be looking at your nephew?

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_02]: What a little snitch, man.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what?

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Carlton has been, you know, we've been gaining so much

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: traction.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_02]: We stopped bashing Carlton.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_02]: We spent the first two seasons spending every episode bashing

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Carlton to some extent.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think we didn't want to be called Carlton.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_00]: We'd fight each other to not be called the Carlton.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You were sending me Carlton memes.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a whole thing.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It was the best of times, the worst of times, but he's

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_02]: back.

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Carlton is being a brat again and he's hurt.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's hurt by the whole Amir situation.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He blames Will, but he immediately throws Will under the

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_02]: bus to Uncle Phil and at Viv and then throws him under

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_02]: the bus to Lisa as well.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But if it's not the Carlton, everybody will know that

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Will was involved in this fire.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And like you said, they tidy it up very quickly before

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_02]: a second.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think it was going to go away so fast.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I for sure thought that is this like Will's going to

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of be in the similar boat to Carlton where now he

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: has this reputation and he has to build from the

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: beginning.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was on that trajectory, but Carlton did

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: shade him at one point and was like, yeah, well,

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: you're going to get bailed out just like you did

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_00]: last time.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And sure enough, Will record polish.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: No one thinks anything differently of him.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_02]: But Carlton is kind of insinuating that Will's a

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_02]: nepo baby who doesn't have to face consequences.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Carlton, here's a mirror.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not the mirror that you looked in and the

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_02]: rearview mirror that you saw yourself in right

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_02]: before you did that coke.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You should look at that and just kind of sit with the

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_02]: idea that you two have not really faced a lot of

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_02]: consequences for what you have done.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You were able to go to rehab and that's something

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that's not afforded to everyone.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: You're able to get a job that oftentimes people

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: who use drugs are not able to do because of

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: their reputation.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You're even in this program with Will, you know,

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: creating BlackSays.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_02]: All these things that you have access to due to

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: your rich and affluent dad.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So for you to throw that at Will like, oh yeah, you

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: just a street thug and my dad's gonna clean up your

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: messes.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking, aren't they cleaning up yours too?

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And he talked shit on Will's dad and yeah,

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah, it's like, sir, you're getting to go to

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Princeton.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to hear this from you.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like your dream school is back on now.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_00]: OK.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And thankfully, Amira is still here.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing has happened.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_00]: But he put on he kept all that energy for him.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_00]: What was interesting, though, and I think this kind

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_00]: of helped patch them up is that we did see the

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_00]: moment where because he was trying to contact Amira

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: a bunch and Amira was the parents were like, she

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: good.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't need you right now.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he went to leave flowers at their

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: house and he mentions, you know, I know this

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: is a tough time of year for her.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And mom's like, why?

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Because her sister died.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_00]: This anniversary of the sister death.

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And mom's like, yeah, she don't got siblings.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I was at home fist pumping.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I knew it.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I knew it.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You called it.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You trusted there is no sister.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Good.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_02]: He needed to find out.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_02]: He needed to find out just like this because

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_02]: he was so far up Amira's ass in this

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_02]: episode or even this season that nobody else

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_02]: could have told him this and he would have

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_02]: believed it.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It had to hit just like this right where he

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: has to sit with Amira as an addict.

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: She has been an addict for a long time and

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_02]: she's been lying to you.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody else is not out to get you.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_02]: This is not necessarily Will's fault, even

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_02]: though you're trying to make it Will's fault.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_02]: This is your fault.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It's you and Amira's fault.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Amira is grown.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_02]: She made choices or she's not grown, but

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_02]: she's made grown up choices and she's ended

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_02]: up in a situation that she's addicted to

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: painkillers.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_02]: She got in a car accident and then she

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: managed.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: She got addicted.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And then from there, she's been abusing

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: drugs.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, she's gone to rehab, but she's

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: not taking it seriously.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: When you go to rehab and they tell you do

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_02]: not get in a relationship immediately

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_02]: after leaving rehab, she was in a

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_02]: relationship before leaving rehab.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So she's definitely made choices that

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_02]: led to this position.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But Carlton has to before him and Amira

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_02]: even got good together.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone comes in, you know, this

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_02]: is not a good look.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: This is not a good idea.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And yet here we are.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You trying to blame everybody else from

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_02]: your problems?

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the red flags were not present

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: to him because of the impression that

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00]: everyone else had given him about her

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: in that because he thinks that none

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: of them like her, he's not taking any

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: of their criticism because you don't

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: know her like I know her.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So it took her mom to be like.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: She lied about this is a pretty big

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: lie.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: She liked to cover something.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I think it hits

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: him.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I didn't see the signs.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It almost seems like Carlton is

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: about to fall off the wagon again.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: We see Connor is here and Carlton

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: has turned to his old faithful drug

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: dealer.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And Connor, a legend?

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: A legend.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. An icon.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Connor said, hey, drugs are bad.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Crack is whack.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't do that.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Kudos.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I got the plug, but I'm not your

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: connect.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Get out of here.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Not for you.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's bad when your drug

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_02]: dealer got to tell you like, hey,

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_02]: you're cut off.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm cutting you off, man.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't want to be the reason

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Carlton fell off the wagon again.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I respect.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that is not an easy

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: thing to do, especially like I

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: think the moment that really made

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: it clear was when he asked Carlton,

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: how long has it been?

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: 72 days.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, you're not breaking

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: it here today.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to be an accomplice

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_00]: to this habit.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Carlton, the king of taking

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_02]: accountability, is definitely going to blame

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: this on Connor if it happens, right?

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, well, Connor gave me the

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_02]: drugs.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, all right, Carlton.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be like, oh, I'm

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: getting shade for for using

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_00]: cocaine after my girlfriend nearly died.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to talk about Connor,

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: who sold me the drugs?

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm the victim.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm the enemy.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Carlton knew what he was about to do.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And Connor saw straight through it.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: It was like, no, you got it.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Figure out your own drugs.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And so Carlton did.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_02]: He had a nice little paper bag.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a moment where...

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It was like a food bag, right?

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like a burger bag, I felt like.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like he kind of got the

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_02]: coke through the drive-through window.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of how I feel.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, yeah, he's about to do a

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_02]: little bit.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He looked in the mirror, had a

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: couple moments where he saw Will.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He thought he saw Aunt Viv a couple of times.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like his conscience started to

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_02]: really speak up.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And eventually he does get rid

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: of the drugs and kind of has to just

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_02]: fight that battle on his own.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He's very proud of himself.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_02]: He tells his family about it later on.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I was happy for Carlton,

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: but I was even happier that Amira is

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_02]: going to be far, far, far

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_02]: away from this family because I just

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_02]: don't like her.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care about the addiction.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Just all things aside, I just thought

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_02]: she was too comfortable, way too comfortable.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. She's being shipped off to

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Boston, right?

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: By the sounds of it.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So she's going to be going into a program

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: there.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And it seemed like when they were

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_00]: doing their final goodbyes with her,

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_00]: that she fully patched things up with Will.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: She's fully patched things up with Lisa.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I think she is very much

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_00]: a part of their inner circle in

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_00]: a way when she comes back.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, the show has an opportunity

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_00]: to just keep her written off.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she's in Boston for all of next

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_00]: season. And I think I'd be fine with it

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_00]: too.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That's OK. She can go.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine. We've done enough.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of feel like I want a

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: single Carlton who's trying

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: to slide in the DMs again, because that

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: was fun.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas all loved up Carlton

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_00]: is not doing as much excitement

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: for me.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I want to

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: see what this snitch has

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_00]: in his arsenal a little bit.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get back to grimy Carlton

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_02]: days. You know, not the like we want

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: to punch him grimy days, but

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_02]: definitely the days where Carlton is

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_02]: moving on his own and he's not

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_02]: necessarily tied to, you know, this

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: love story that is also

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_02]: tied to his addiction.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like everyone can't have like

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_00]: everyone by the end of the season,

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_00]: everyone has a relationship.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_00]: We need somebody to not have one.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that person should be

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Carlton.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, it might end up being

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Ashley because we see that Ashley

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and Eli, they both like each

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_02]: other. They've admitted to liking

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: each other and they're she doesn't

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: want to hide it anymore.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: As it says, I can like who

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to like and I'm tired of

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: keeping a secret. Hillary's not

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: keeping secrets anymore.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So they might be the ones

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_02]: to try to make their relationship

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: official. We see them holding hands.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But honestly, the family

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: shutting is down the first chance

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: they get. You know, Ashley, you

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_02]: are too young in this household,

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_02]: at least to be having full on

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_02]: relationships. She's not that far

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_02]: off from whenever Carlton and

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Lisa probably started dating

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_02]: those. So I don't know.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe she's not.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they I feel like

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: they seem they'll probably be OK

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: with it, but they'll say,

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, but Eli can just come hang

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: out in your room and on your

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: bed anymore, which makes a lot

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_00]: of sense, given that they they

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_00]: were setting that up for no dating

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: and no dating in the house.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, but but

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: we're not dating like OK, cool.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So now they're going to be like

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: no more.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they do make a really

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: good point of just taking their

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_02]: eye off of Ashley a little too

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_02]: much. You know, with Carlton,

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_02]: he gave them the same speech.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Carlton, you shouldn't be dating.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: No, we're just friends.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I said, OK, like no, no,

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: that's not how this works.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Your kids are lying to you.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_02]: They're constantly lying to you

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: because that's what kids do.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Not all kids are going to lie

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_02]: all the time, but you got to watch

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_02]: them. And so Ashley's going to say

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever it takes to get the smoke

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: off of her. But back behind

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: the scenes when no one's watching,

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Ashley has a them

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_02]: friend in Eli.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I think I could see

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: this relationship being a bigger

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_00]: part of Ashley's story.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even say a bigger part

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_00]: of the story because

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_00]: this is the third season and

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: this is the most Ashley has

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_00]: gotten throughout three seasons.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, because this would be

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Ashley's freshman year in high

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: school. That's what they said.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's about to start

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: freshman year.

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, they can get into

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot more drama for Ashley,

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_02]: but there's no way that

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Ashley is going to be the

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_02]: focal point of anything

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_02]: that really matters,

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess, as a freshman

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: in high school,

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_02]: unless they really manufacture

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_02]: some drama.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Do you remember

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: in Fresh Prince when Ashley

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_00]: started school at the Academy

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and everyone was like

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: hovered around her

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and they were all like

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: fulmin at the mouth

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: only to realize that it's

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: his baby sister?

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, exactly.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God, that that definitely

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_02]: can't happen.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that would be fun.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be fun.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the direction

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: they could get if they're

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: going to do a storyline

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: similar to that is that

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Ashley starts getting involved

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: in the music scene

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: and has like a bit of a raunchy

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: style for her music.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And that could lead

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: to the similar storyline, maybe

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_02]: raunchy style.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_02]: She'll be Ashley the stallion.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I hope not.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Then you do Ashley.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_02]: No, please, please.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_02]: That would be hilarious.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_02]: If Ashley drops it,

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_02]: cool, actually music

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_02]: already dark and broody.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that if they can

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_02]: just she moves it to like

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_02]: a like stripper rap,

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_02]: that would be hilarious.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But also Uncle Phil

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_02]: will blow up like he will legit

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: like just fall apart

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and plode. Yeah.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Or they'll just leave him there

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and then they'll come back

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and he'll be dead

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_02]: like Lamarcus Lamarcus.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Trevor outed his name is Trevor Puyo.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_02]: How do we make it this far

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_02]: to the podcast when

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I talk about it?

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: They really tried to sandwich it in there

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_00]: because when they were doing the vows

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and he's like, I, Lamarcus, Trevor's like,

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_00]: oh, no, he's Trevor.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I say he's gone, man.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He's cooked.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I thought, is he about

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: to have Artithek on at the altar?

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, no.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow. They're married.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, they they married cool.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And then at the honeymoon,

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Chappelle at the honeymoon,

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: one more mimosa did the trick.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm sorry.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: God, I love this.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So much because when I saw

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_02]: his name was Trevor, in my notes,

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I said, oh, he's doomed.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_02]: He's done because we've been forecasting

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_02]: the Trevor S.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_02]: death of Lamarcus

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: since the moment we saw him.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_02]: We said, is this Trevor?

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And to just slip in

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: that his name is actually Trevor,

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, that's the like

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that's the kiss of death.

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, OK, boom, we found our Trevor.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to die. But how?

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And I started thinking

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe next season he dies early on

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and we deal with Hillary

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of grieving that.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But killing him in this season

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I think was a perfect move

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: because now we can focus on Hillary and Jazz

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: throughout this episode.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_02]: We really saw that

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a lot of chemistry,

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot of love between the two of them.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But unfortunately,

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Hillary loves someone else.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Now that person is gone.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think the doors are wide open

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: for jazz to just come on

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and step through.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And and jazz kind of handled it,

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_00]: quote unquote, in the classy way

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: where he didn't

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: because when they were like,

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_00]: does anybody object?

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And everyone looked like,

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_00]: oh my God, jazz about to roll up

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: out in here and just start talking.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Nope, he respected her wishes.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He let go the person

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_00]: he loves for her happiness.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And now her husband died.

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So, wow.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_00]: This is wild, dude,

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: because I feel like they

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: They made the right choice

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: just doing it now

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: because this entire episode 10

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: was from the perspective

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: of this wedding.

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they immediately

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: wrapped it up and we moved on

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_00]: because the other side of the coin was,

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: well, what happens with Hillary's story

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_00]: when she's married?

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, where does she go from there?

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Because a lot of her story

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: this season was

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Lamarcus or jazz.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It was not her individual

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: like storyline.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_00]: We lost all of that.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Ivy's kind of the reminder

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: of what used to be.

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And now I think we're going to move

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_00]: into her back into her career,

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: because also a lot of her

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_00]: like social media storyline was,

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: well, you're you're

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Lamarcus's trophy wife.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: So let's focus on that.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That's all gone now.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So where do we go?

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very happy because listen,

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: one of the appeals of Bel Air

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_00]: was that they're clearly

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: taking some stuff

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: from the source material.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But I could not have predicted this.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I was gobsmacked when they

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: his middle name was revealed

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: to be Trevor.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, rest in peace.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_00]: My new friend.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was one of those

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_02]: if you know, you know moments.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It was like his name is Trevor.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And so everybody at home

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_02]: like that Leonardo DiCaprio GIF,

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_02]: like, look, look, that's what they say.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, oh my God.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It was perfect.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a perfect reveal.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I loved every second of it,

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_02]: especially because I felt like

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_02]: the beginning of the season

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_02]: really highlighted the idea

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: that Lamarcus could die

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_02]: from playing football at any time.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We found out about this condition.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_02]: He should not be playing football.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And then after Hillary kisses jazz,

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_02]: he goes to the hospital.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_02]: We never talk about the idea

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_02]: that Lamarcus is about

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_02]: to marry Hillary and then go back

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_02]: to playing football again,

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_02]: which is so dangerous.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_02]: This way, he doesn't even

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: make it to the football field again,

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_02]: because we're reminded that

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_02]: that condition meant that he could die

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_02]: at any time if he didn't get the proper help.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And so here he is.

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It happened. He died.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm happy that they kind of

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_02]: wrap that storyline up as opposed

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: to just like bringing it up

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and letting it go because they

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: hadn't talked about it for so long.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm also happy that you're right.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Now Hillary's from under that storyline,

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, and she can start to move on now.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't get me wrong.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have to deal with a lot

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: of crying Hillary next season, you know.

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_00]: At least the first three episodes.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's going to be bad,

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: but I do think she can come from this.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, what did you think about these two

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_02]: episodes being focused on Hillary

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and Jazz's journey as well?

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Because Hillary goes to get closure from Jazz.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_02]: They spend the day together.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't look like they did anything sexual,

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: but I know he joked about it too.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, are we doing this?

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, stop.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not what we're doing.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It was we're just on a date.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Closure. It was kind of like

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_00]: closure of like them having the chemistry.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think closure is important

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_02]: for a relationship that's ended?

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it depends on the relationship.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it depends on how close the two of you were.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it also depends on how much

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: in your ecosystem they are.

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Hillary's in his world no matter what,

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: especially because he's good friends with Will.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like from that regard, yes,

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_00]: but if this is a relationship that went very sour

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: and like they did things, you did things.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I think sometimes you don't need closure in that situation.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But if one of you feels like, or both of you feels like

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_00]: there was some stuff left on the table, then yes.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_02]: See, I'd like that they talked about the idea of closure,

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_02]: but I don't think that's what happened

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_02]: between them anyway.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It felt like they went on a long date.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And then at the end of it,

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_02]: because I think Hillary said,

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we just need to get each other

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_02]: out of each other's systems.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And by the end of it,

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that is what was accomplished.

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Hillary now felt okay going to get married, it seems.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But she left her ring behind.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So obviously her head wasn't in the game

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: if her ring came off and ended up in Jazz's shoe.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And then when Jazz is faced with the opportunity

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: to bring the ring, he even says,

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_02]: if I pawn this all my problems would go away.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's not wrong.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Not only would he have $100,000

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: to do whatever he wants to do with his business,

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_02]: but Hillary would have to own up to the idea

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_02]: that she was laid up over there with Jazz

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_02]: instead of getting ready for her wedding.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe, just maybe the two of them could be together.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I felt like they said closure,

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: but it wasn't really no closure.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like all that did,

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was closure for one of them, not both of them.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I think for Hillary she was like,

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: all right, that was amazing.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But onto my new life.

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And for Jazz it was, oh, I'm an idiot.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm an idiot for letting this go.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And now it's more proof that I was an idiot.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The minute episode 10 started

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: and she couldn't find a ring,

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, it's in Jazz' house.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where in that house,

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: but it's a Jazz' place for sure.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, it actually took a minute

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_02]: for me to realize that that was coming.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause I was like, oh, she lost her ring.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I said, see, this is her,

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: like finding reasons to sabotage this.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But nope, she had already sabotaged it

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: the episode before when she left the ring over there.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, rest in peace Trevor, who you know,

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: gone very quickly.

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But Chappelle, sometimes when a Trevor leaves,

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: a Nikki has to come in.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Pooja, Aunt Viv is pregnant.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_02]: When she said she was feeling a little sick,

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, here comes baby Nikki.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing?

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing, Belair?

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Are we really doing this?

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: What's happening?

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause Aunt Viv, we know her and Uncle Phil

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_02]: have been talking about how much,

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_02]: oh, they're so happy to get the kids out of the house.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: They learn to have to empty nesting.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Empty nesting, not worried about Carlton as much,

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_02]: not worried about Hillary as much.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Ashley is getting older.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_02]: They're preparing for the exit.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But now that they have started doing the sex again,

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess they just, you know,

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: they just weren't as careful as they should have been.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And here we are, Nicholas, Andrew, Michael Sean,

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Nathan Wanyet Banks is on the way.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I forgot how long his name was.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_02]: So Nikki is named after all the members of Boys To Men.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's where you get Nicholas, Andrew,

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Michael Sean, Nathan Wanyet.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And so Nikki's coming.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how I feel about this.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna have pregnant Aunt Viv.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause you know we never really got baby Nikki

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_02]: on the Fresh Prince.

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Somehow Nikki just aged up

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_02]: into like a five-year-old all of a sudden.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you know that?

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Well, we're gonna have pregnant Aunt Viv

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_00]: most likely for all of season four.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And then if we get a season five, baby Nikki will be there.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But baby Nikki better like,

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: we'll probably just be a baby.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't think how far are we gonna accelerate?

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But actually I take that back Chappelle

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_00]: because now I see the vision.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_00]: They could easily time jump after next year

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: because next year is senior year.

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They should choose,

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_00]: they can time jump them through college

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_00]: or time jump them through a couple of years of college

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: to kind of get them where they need them to go.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Because with Carlton going to Princeton

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_00]: and Will going to somewhere else,

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: you're not gonna have the whole family together.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe. I don't know.

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if they could time jump

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_02]: just to like the end of senior year.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause I'm not really interested in Will and Carlton

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: applying for colleges.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't wanna, I don't care.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But if you can get to the end of that.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you can get to the end,

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: like they're preparing for graduation maybe.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they can't Chappelle

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_00]: because Will is abducted right now.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_00]: We have to see how that pays off.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think we're getting a time jump.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I think-

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I was saying for maybe the bridge between four

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and five, I could see the time jump is what I'm saying.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that'd be six years from now.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see, but our own time jump here-

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna be time jumping.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, before any talking about this.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, you're right.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_02]: We haven't talked about this at all.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Will is abducted.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Jeffrey had been being followed throughout

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and the same SUV that was following Jeffrey

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_02]: has now kidnapped Will.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And who knows where these evil Brits are gonna take him

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_02]: because old school Jeffrey

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_02]: is still lurking around somewhere.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_02]: We didn't see him, but he's around.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_00]: He's for sure around.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Man, that was probably the saddest recognition

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I had this episode was when Jeffrey walked up

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and they started doing the family photos,

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: every time he ad-lib something about somebody

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: it was like, don't leave.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I know what you're doing.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You're about to dip out on everybody.

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause we saw in episode nine that Penelope,

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_00]: shady Penelope nearly gave them up.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Chappelle nearly gave them up to these Brits

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00]: because the deal didn't go through.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_00]: The deal fell through.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't like the deal.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They took the money and said, no.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You called it.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You said it after we watched that episode.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You said, are they even gonna go for this?

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was thinking, well, why not?

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he gave him stacks and stacks of money

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_02]: but there's nothing like having Jeffrey working for you

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess, like you gotta get them back in the game.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a bad man.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you that that handshake

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: the double Jeffrey handshake really felt

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: like it wasn't gonna go through.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: He is a bad man.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a bad man.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm so sad dude, because he ends up,

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_00]: first of all, Frederick's stupid.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Frederick's out here getting his ass beat in

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_00]: on the streets because he has to roll dice

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and swindle people out of money.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he said, it's in the blood.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_02]: What a problem child.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's hear Frederick out.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Frederick has-

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh now you're on his side?

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_02]: He's evil and I need everybody to know about it.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_02]: My issue here is that Frederick

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: is not getting the smoke he deserves.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But let's hear from his point of view.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_02]: He has found out that the dad that he thought

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: didn't care about him or whatever

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_02]: is basically the baddest man who ever existed, right?

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_02]: He found out about this crime syndicate

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_02]: that he's now been a part of and exited.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're watching Jeffrey at any point

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_02]: then you know that he's just not one

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_02]: to be trifled with.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Jeffrey, we're the biggest Jeffrey fans

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_02]: on the internet, on any podcast ever.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_02]: If you'll told me I could be more like my dad

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and my dad is Jeffrey,

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I could see myself doing a little gambling on the street,

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_02]: doing some street stuff every now and then,

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_02]: trying to ease into that lifestyle.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But I guess, I don't think,

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I would have over thought about it enough

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_00]: to realize, you know what?

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I could do the bad man stuff

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: but I can look good in a suit.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I can walk around doing a security detail

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: like that I can do.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Get me behind a computer to watch the security footage.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm there all day.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Jeffrey so bad that the Brits have come all the way

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_02]: to the United States to get him, okay?

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, we need you at work.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a different level of bad.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's so bad.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, nah, you too good at your job

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_02]: to go on the straight and narrow.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You gotta be evil like the rest of us.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know if I'm prejudiced.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, man, my dad kind of dope.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I think also if Jeffrey checks him on it,

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that would embolden him even more

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think he's gonna be more like Jeffrey.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause he's like, if I could stand up to my dad,

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_02]: who is Jeffrey?

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, boy these people on the streets

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_02]: ain't gonna be able to mess with me.

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_02]: These Americans ain't ready for the Brit.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't know.

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of see where he's coming from

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_02]: but I also think this is his fault.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that whatever just happened to Will,

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Frederick set it up.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think anybody can tell me different

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_02]: because ever since the Fresh Prince of Bel Air,

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I knew not to trust this Frederick man.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And we just didn't have enough smoke for him

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_02]: this season for my liking.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess the number one question for me then is,

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_00]: do you think we see this British contingent back again?

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think we see-

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Easy.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Jeffrey, Penelope, Frederick, all three, one, two.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, gotta be.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Gotta be right.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause we were talking about a time jump

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_02]: but if Will gets kidnapped today,

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Jeffrey's on the case tomorrow.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's no way that Jeffrey,

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_02]: he's got him tracked.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like there's like a tracker in his ear.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a bugged.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he says he's leaving Uncle Phil.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, hey, I'm gonna let you and your family handle it.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think y'all need me anymore.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I've done my part, blah, blah, blah.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But when it's time to break glass in case of emergency,

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: who you gonna call?

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Jeffrey.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Every time, every time.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we're gonna lose any time with Jeffrey.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Uncle Phil tries to do this

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_02]: without Jeffrey.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I love that these two episodes really did highlight

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_02]: the friendship that Uncle Phil and Jeffrey have

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_02]: because these last two seasons

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_02]: have been a little tumultuous.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: We've seen Jeffrey really focusing on Frederick.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_02]: We've seen Uncle Phil and Jeffrey pretty much at odds.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Jeffrey basically got fired in season three essentially.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_02]: But here, several times over throughout the season

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_02]: but definitely in these last two episodes,

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_02]: we saw the two of them bonding

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and really talking about how like I got your back,

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: you got my back, look at the family.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_02]: They're looking over the family as a pair, as a duo.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And so you gotta have more Jeffrey for season five.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the show, or season four,

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the show would just be the same without him.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_00]: No, we talked about the show wasn't the same

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_00]: when he was on cameo duty on season two.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: No, do not do this.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Huge mistake if you do.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But also had they not had the abduction, okay?

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that you just simply cannot open season four

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_00]: without that being a main storyline now.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Had they not done that,

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I would have been on this podcast

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_00]: convinced we're getting a Jeffrey spin-off.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Convinced. Oh yeah.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I would have said we're getting the Jeffrey spin-off.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be the bridge between the two seasons

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's gonna be following his saga

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: of like hiding away from all these bad people.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it's gonna end with him

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: solving the problem and coming back to Bel Air.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I would have been convinced that's what's gonna happen.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But with the abduction, you can't do that

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_00]: because also what is that story gonna cover 48 hours?

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's not been gone that long.

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_02]: They gotta get right into it.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But Jimmy, the King Below tweeting out,

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_02]: hey, a Jeffrey spin-off blah, blah, blah.

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we see the tweets, Jimmy.

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_02]: We see them and we're here for him.

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Let us know. Jimmy is slick.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_00]: He even- He knows what's up.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Out of character he's slick too.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_00]: He knows what he's doing.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like fanning the flames a little bit.

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_02]: He knows what's up. Yeah.

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_02]: A Jeffrey spin-off.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we see Jeffrey on a side quest to go get Will

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_02]: or something like that would be so dope.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_02]: But we can't take the time away.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_02]: If they don't already have it filmed,

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: well yeah, we can't do that.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: We need to jump into season four,

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: really tackling the issue.

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause Will being gone obviously is gonna put

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_02]: all the rest of these storylines at a halt.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It's also interesting to me because, you know,

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I still go back to that phone call that Will overheard.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, you're not gonna convince me

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_00]: that was Penelope.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That's gotta be someone in this organization of some sort.

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But also the same people that abducted Will

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: are the same people that beat up on Frederick.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't even think that's the case necessarily.

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But you, the show has definitely robbed us

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_00]: of Carlton pummeling Frederick a little bit.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Just a couple of punches.

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It's gotta hit him.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: One, two.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: It's gotta happen.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: If anything, if anything will turn you

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_02]: to a life of crime,

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_02]: getting beat up by Carlton is one of those things.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if I'm Jeffrey's son and I get beat up

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_02]: by Carlton, I'm like, all right dad,

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_02]: teach me the game.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I got to figure out something.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever skills Jeffrey got, I need those skills now

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_02]: because I can't just be getting bullied by people

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_02]: from Bel Air Preparatory Academy

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: or wherever their school they're at.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you got to, at that point really dive in.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think whatever happened to Frederick

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_02]: with him getting beat up, I think at that point

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_02]: he probably turns in Will as like the sacrifice, right?

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm thinking that that's probably where

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_02]: that comes from because it's just a little too cute

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_02]: that, you know, Frederick gets jumped

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_02]: but Will is the one who gets kidnapped

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_02]: when easily, I mean, they could just be looking

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_02]: for Frederick again.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, since when were we in a, all right,

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_00]: it's a one for one.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00]: We're just going to swap out this boy

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: for this boy and it'll be okay.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Was it because he like clearly knew of Jeffrey

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: cause he went to his apartment?

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that what it was?

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It had to have been, right?

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Got to be.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess Frederick and Jeffrey were gone by now.

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Right?

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_02]: We had already seen Frederick's, I'm sorry,

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Jeffrey's speech, his little letter

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: that he wrote to Uncle Phil.

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So the apartment was cleared out.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe they just can't get to Frederick.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So the next best option is one of the Banks kids or Will

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and Will, just like you said,

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_02]: was leaving the apartment.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He went there, Jeffrey's stuff was all gone.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It was completely empty.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like it happened so quickly, right?

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It happened enough time for him to get moved out.

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think they've probably just been waiting

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_02]: on the perfect bait.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody's going to come looking for Jeffrey.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think Jeffrey actually was able to get out

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_02]: and move away and he's just sitting like across the pond

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_02]: or maybe they already have them.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't have Jeffrey.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So far, like literally Jeffrey is always one step ahead

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: so much so that when him and Penelope were walking,

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: he's like, all right, we have 10 seconds.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to let them take me

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: or you want to come with me?

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like what are we doing?

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He called his shot that they were about to abduct him

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_00]: because he clocked that that car was following them.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't get slip on past this man.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And not only did he clock that the SUV was following him,

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_02]: he knew that Penelope had something to do with it.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't like, don't look,

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_02]: but we got somebody following us.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, now what did you do?

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, why is this happening?

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And she had to admit that the people want Jeffrey

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_02]: so bad that they're willing to come and kidnap him

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_02]: if necessary.

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So I just feel like if Penelope was able

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_02]: to sell Jeffrey out to save Frederick,

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Frederick would probably be able to sell Will out

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_02]: to save him.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And so maybe that's why, but again,

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm completely biased when it comes to Frederick.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I've hated him since the moment we saw him

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_02]: the first time in season three and nothing has changed.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing has changed at all.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's a world where, yeah,

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Will is the bargaining chip

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_00]: to get Jeffrey back on side, right?

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh, Jeffrey ran away?

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you got to come back for Will unless you don't care.

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's how he comes back

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and somehow puts them to bed.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Because again, give me my Jeffrey.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You cannot just get rid of Jeffrey like this.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_00]: No way.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And Will has to come back too

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_02]: because he's the main character.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So we know Will's coming back

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and we're gonna need Jeffrey to go get him.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_02]: That makes total sense.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that opens the door for maybe later on,

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Jeffrey spinoff.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll just have to see what happens with that.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_02]: But also we got to see Vi, Will's mom

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_02]: in these episodes as well.

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_02]: She comes to the wedding

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and she has a new boyfriend, Gerald.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Or is it Jimmy?

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Or is it Jim?

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It just depends on what Will feels like calling him.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_02]: He seems very protective over his mom dating people.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And apparently she's been dating.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Gerald, wow for that.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So Gerald and Will are talking

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and Will says, hey, you know,

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to make sure you understand

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that I love my mom

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm never gonna let anybody hurt her

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and you better take care of her

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and I need to know your intentions.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Giving him like the protective older brother

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_02]: or whatever vibes that he's trying to, you know,

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_02]: put between Gerald and his mom.

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And Gerald says something to the effect of,

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_02]: oh yeah, well, you know,

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_02]: your mom gets a lot of attention.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just happy I finally got a chance

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_02]: to shoot my shot.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And Will said, what?

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: What does that mean?

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And I said the same thing.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, wait, Gerald,

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_02]: what did you just insinuate?

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: What is, what's going on?

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause Gerald says, you need to talk to your mama.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, well, like about what?

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't need to bring all this up.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Just say, yes, I like her

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and I intend on, you know, taking care of her.

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't need to add like, yeah, you know,

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_00]: she held the bachelor Philly

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and I ended up being the winner.

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that didn't need to be a part of this.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't need to say all that.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_02]: He said the line was long as hell

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_02]: but finally she got to me

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm just like, man,

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Will is not gonna go for that.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't seem to amount to anything

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_02]: we see Vi and Will dancing it out at the wedding.

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought this was a pretty cool moment

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_02]: because, you know,

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_02]: the show reminds us all the time

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_02]: that Will and Vi were extremely close

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_02]: but we don't see them talk as much as we used to.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_02]: In season one, he's like always FaceTiming

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and texting and calling

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_02]: but now he's starting to get his roots

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_02]: a little bit in Bel Air.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm actually starting to question, you know,

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_02]: we talk about where Will could go to college

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: or what happens after this

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_02]: but is there any appeal to Will

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_02]: potentially going back to Philly

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_02]: once he's done here in Bel Air?

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't see it.

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like at this point,

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Bel Air has more and more become his home

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_00]: in this short amount of time.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like not only initially it was like, okay,

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I have my family, I have Jazz.

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That's about it.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And now, and then it became,

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: well, I have a family, I have Jazz,

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I have Lisa.

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't have Lisa but I have Jackie.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I've got basketball.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. And then this season,

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: okay, I don't have basketball.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Jackie's a friend.

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I have Lisa.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I have Jazz.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I have the family.

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I have Black Sass.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm working on this community project

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_00]: to prevent gentrification.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm now part of this community as well.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: My mom's visiting me frequently.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's become more of a,

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: like he's built his ecosystem now.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And now once he's putting roots down here

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_00]: as a soon to be young adult,

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it's gonna be a lot harder for him

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_00]: to just switch up and leave everything here.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially when he's establishing these relationships

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_00]: as he's about to embark on the next chapter

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_00]: with like college and stuff coming up.

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's living a lot of experiences

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that he probably wouldn't have got to have

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_02]: if he was still in Philly, right?

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Even him being in Hillary's wedding,

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_02]: he's one of the groomsmen

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's standing next to his favorite wide receiver

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_02]: from the NFL, DK Metcalf.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, you know, I was like, wait,

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_02]: what is that really him?

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And it was, and so I was like, dang, you know,

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Will is getting to live out some of these experiences

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_02]: that, you know, prior to him moving to Bel Air

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_02]: probably weren't that realistic.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, even this partnership

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_02]: like you brought up with Black Sass,

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_02]: meeting Quinton and having somebody

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: with that much influence and influence in his life,

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, you're like, okay,

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I might be able to see this going somewhere for Will.

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And so going back to Philly,

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: it's seeming like more and more of a stretch

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_02]: for our main character.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I think at best it will be a family visit,

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe Thanksgiving in Philly or Christmas in Philly

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: if we're following through the academic year

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_00]: for this season.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I think we could see,

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_00]: we're going back to Philly for a little bit,

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_00]: for like an episode, because also where's Trey?

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Are we ever gonna see Trey?

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Is Trey just gone?

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Ash Trey.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, who knows?

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_02]: We haven't seen him in so long.

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't like for Will to forget, you know,

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_02]: the people back in Philly as well.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I love that we see his mom,

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_02]: but yeah, bring us some more Philly back to Bel Air

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: or some more, you know, trips across the country

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: to go and, you know, just show him, you know,

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_02]: the stuff, the life that he had,

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_02]: so that he still appreciates it.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause the black says,

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_02]: although it sounds like it would be great in Bel Air,

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure it could do a lot of good

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_02]: in a place like Philly, you know,

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_02]: or these more predominantly blacks,

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_02]: like areas and neighborhoods.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if this is supposed to be helping

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_02]: to lift black people,

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, it's not necessarily confined to Bel Air.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You can definitely take this to Philly.

[00:43:51] 100%.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_02]: We also got a cameo from Andra Day.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_02]: She's the one who ends up singing at his wedding

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and she's the star of the movie, The Deliverance,

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_02]: which is the number one movie on Netflix.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, how topical.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we just talked about it here on Recap Kickback.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So if you are not checking out our other coverage,

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_02]: check out Ty, Mari and myself talking about

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: The Deliverance and our reactions to the movie

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_02]: here on Recap Kickback.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: We dropped that this week.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So I was very happy to see that as well.

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But about people who we didn't really see in this

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_02]: episode, where was Jackie?

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Are we done with Jackie?

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_00]: What else is there with Jackie, right?

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the whole thing with Lisa is like patched up,

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_00]: even though it was kind of for Will's sake,

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_00]: that's patched up, but also Will has a perspective there.

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_00]: What was the name of their friend they made

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_00]: at the country club that brought Jackie?

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Zaire?

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Zaire, yeah.

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're gonna be a thing.

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But beyond that, I don't have much else

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_00]: because now we're definitely gonna start the next season

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_00]: with school being back on, right?

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna have the country club chapter closing down.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna be back at Bel Air Academy.

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_00]: If he doesn't go back to basketball with a Zenith,

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_00]: then how is Jackie in the picture outside of like,

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Viv helping her out with something

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_00]: or her and Lisa somehow becoming best friends?

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's not much,

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: many avenues for Jackie to go from here.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Agreed.

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: We saw Jamal Hill appear in this episode as well.

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Paralympian Jamal Hill, he links up with Lisa.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_02]: They have a good conversation

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_02]: because she's looking for a sign as to what her next move is.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Should she be diving into this swimming thing

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_02]: for no pun intended?

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Or if there's something else

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_02]: should she be focusing her energy on?

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think her conversation with a Paralympian

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_02]: really does put that into perspective.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And she said, all right, this must be a sign.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_02]: She reached on a double rainbow.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And next thing you know,

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_02]: she's talking to somebody who has competed

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_02]: in multiple Olympic games.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And so now it does look like Lisa needs

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_02]: to get her head in the game.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_02]: But I have said this once and I'll say it again.

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_02]: This season, if it was about Lisa trying

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_02]: to make nationals, she did not attempt.

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_02]: She was so caught up in the mirror of it all,

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_02]: helping raising her little brother

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_02]: and potentially her step-mom's postpartum depression

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_02]: that she didn't really get the focus on sports

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: as much as she said she would in episode one.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes, but then we did see the development

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_00]: of that with Enviv literally giving a helping hand

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_00]: of like, I have resources.

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_00]: If you need help there, I'm always here to help

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_00]: or wherever I can.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And by the end of the season, he's like, you know what?

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll take you up on that.

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Initially it was a get out of my office.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You do not know my family.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And then now it's like, you know what?

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, you're right.

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, I would like to see those resources

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and I will take all the help I can get.

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I forgot how much I hated her dad

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_02]: until these last couple of episodes.

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh yeah.

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It took one episode to be like, oh yeah,

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_00]: that's why I'm happy you're gone.

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hate that guy.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Puyo, did you have a favorite part of this episode

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_02]: or these episodes?

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh God, it's hard to just pick one favorite scene

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_00]: but I feel like, I mean, for me personally

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was hearing the word Trevor again.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That was like the, like that was,

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching the show.

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'm spacing out a little bit.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I was back online after that.

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That was huge.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think for me personally, it would be that spot.

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Mine has to do with Trevor as well

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's more when he finds out about Hillary and Jazz.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_02]: He actually walks in and sees Jazz and Hillary hugging.

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, why is he here?

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And Hillary is forced to finally face the music

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and stop lying and just say, hey, okay,

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_02]: here's what happened.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So she talks about how she was going to,

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_02]: that how she kissed Jazz,

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_02]: how she did the whole closure thing

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and how she was going to tell Lamarcus

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_02]: but she just didn't.

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And he takes off and leaves

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and it takes Hillary's maid of honor

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and one of Lamarcus' groomsmen to get him back on board

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_02]: with even hearing Hillary out.

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_02]: But the conversation between Ashley, Will and Lamarcus

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_02]: when they're sitting on the bench and Will says,

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_02]: you know personally I like Jazz better than you.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You know who I was rooting for.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh that was so funny.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And Hillary's, and Ashley said,

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah it was actually the worst day of my life

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_02]: when I found out. I wrote a song about it.

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I wrote a song about it?

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I died because they both came around

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_02]: but they had to make sure he knew, okay,

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_02]: this is a pro jazz household.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's how I know Hillary and Jazz,

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_02]: whether we like it or not,

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care what size of the fence you are on

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_02]: with this one, that's happening.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_02]: That's happening and it's probably happening next season.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It is because I think he's going to be there for her.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to give her the space.

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's going to be a gentleman about it

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_00]: is the vibe I'm getting.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And like remember Jazz's biggest red flag

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_00]: was that he was doing the,

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't handle my girlfriend being more successful

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_00]: than me so I'm going to be a dick about it.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_00]: That was his biggest offense,

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_00]: but the love was always there.

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Now that he's realized that that doesn't matter

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_00]: or hopefully he realizes that doesn't matter.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_00]: He hopefully who knows?

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a little bit proud of that one.

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_00]: We could see where it goes and I'd be very okay with it

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_00]: after the appropriate amount of time

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_00]: since you know, Rula Marcus AKA Trevor

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_00]: literally just died.

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but now that we've talked through it

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm kind of on the side of

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_02]: there will be no time jump

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: because we got to get Will back.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to see the immediate effects

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: of the death of Lamarca is right?

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we're going to see Hillary making that phone call

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_02]: probably or Jazz finding out from Carlton or something

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_02]: that Will is missing and or that, you know,

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_02]: somehow this is going to get to Jazz very early on.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to be something where we see,

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_02]: oh months have gone by and now he's okay with it

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_02]: or he's giving her a time.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to see Jazz probably fighting

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: with this back and forth with Lamarca, you know,

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_02]: the death of Lamarca for a while.

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And we might even see Hillary because we know

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_02]: that she might've been in love with Lamarca

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: but I think she's in love with Jazz too.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You can be in love with two people at once.

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I would love to see how that works out

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_02]: next season as well just because again,

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_02]: we're going to have to watch the Will Day Won't Day

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's going to be laced with a little

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Cedric Diggory just died.

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Why are you kissing me?

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Why are you crying?

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of situation, you know?

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So this could be fun, but it's also going to be dark

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and twisty like most seasons of Bel Air have been.

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Regardless, I'm excited.

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited Puyo about what could come

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_02]: and when that could come.

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We do not know when season four will be dropping

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_02]: but if it does, hopefully we will be here

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_02]: to talk about it.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_00]: If it drops and we are both still podcasters,

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I think we'll be talking about it.

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. That's the plan.

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Whether it's 2026, 2030,

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_00]: who knows?

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Are we going to get Bel Air before we get GTA six?

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll find out.

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_02]: We will be waiting forever, but we will be here.

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully, fingers crossed, all that good stuff

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_02]: whenever the time comes.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I just think they can't wait too much longer

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_02]: because Ashley is already 17 in real life.

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I just feel like we as a grown woman playing

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_02]: a 14 year old is not going to fly.

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, these adults are playing 17 year olds.

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So like we're already there.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_02]: We're pushing it.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_02]: We are really pushing it with these people aging

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and maturing right before our eyes

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and also getting very famous.

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Coco Jones, I don't know how much longer

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_02]: we're going to be able to have her for this lovely show.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Didn't she do the national anthem yesterday?

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And the NFL game?

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_02]: She's like a mega star.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Yeah.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Coco Jones is not messing around.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I could see this really blowing up for her

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and not to say that they can't afford her no more

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_02]: but you don't know, maybe they can't.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, yes, I am hoping that they bring season four

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_02]: very quickly, but you know, we will sit around

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and wait for the Croms as we always do

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_02]: because we do love the show

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm very happy with the cliffhanger that we got.

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_02]: We will be back to see if Eviv is going

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_02]: to bring us a little Nikki.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_02]: We will see what happens with Trevor.

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Amir is far away.

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Will we get the return of her?

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Is Carlton writing a book

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_02]: or a screenplay about his life?

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_02]: There's so many questions being left unanswered right now

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_02]: that we have plenty of reason to come back

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_02]: but until we do, booyah.

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_02]: We gotta find something else to talk about or something.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this could be forever.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm game.

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm game.

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_00]: If people wanna give us suggestions, we can hear them out.

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_00]: If you end up thinking there's a show out there

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_00]: for you and I to explore, let's do it.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_00]: If I think of something, I'll let you know

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_00]: because we did our little Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_00]: We have now gotten back to our Bel Air gig.

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_00]: What's next?

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think that the Mr.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and Mrs. Smith was very fun.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't checked that out before,

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: you can check it out on recapcakebag.com.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_02]: This is for all the Bel Air Pochette Recaps listeners.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_02]: We're on recapcakebag.com.

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You can go through the archives,

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_02]: check out our previous coverage of season one

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_02]: of Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_02]: There will be a season two as well, I believe.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And so we definitely could come back for that

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_02]: but Puyah has a lot of stuff going on in his world

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm sure you can find other Puyah content

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that meet your criteria.

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Until then, Puyah, tell everybody where they can find you,

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_02]: what you're working on.

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Twitter at Puyahism, twitch.tv slash Puyah for podcasts.

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You can find me talking 90 Day Fiance on a weekly basis.

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_00]: The Circle is coming back with a new season.

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be talking about that as well.

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And Life Feed updates on Friday for Big Brother.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're still watching Big Brother 26,

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_00]: that's where you can find me.

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and Big Brother 26 has been a fun ride.

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Check it out over on the RJP network.

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And then of course check out all the stuff

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_02]: that I have going on.

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Fight Night coming next week, this week, whenever.

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_02]: With AJ we'll be talking about it.

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Mari and Latonya and I will be talking

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_02]: about the last two parts of Hollywood Black.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Ty and I will be bringing some content.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Sasha and I have been working on some things.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Spooky season is about a month away

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and so we'll try to keep things fresh

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and scary for you around then.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But in order to keep up with everything,

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[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And when we get more updates about Bel Air,

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_02]: we will definitely talk about it here.

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But that said, Puyah, we gotta go.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all gotta go.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But y'all definitely could catch us here next time

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_02]: when we talk about whatever it is

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_02]: when season four rolls around.

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Peace out and thank you all for listening, bye.

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