Best BLACK Wrestler Bracket of All Time Tournament

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[00:01:58] My friends from HU You know? Mo and OG How are you guys doing? We are doing great And I wanna say I love this new intro that you have Thank you It's so great I love the visuals It's perfect Thank you I'm dropping air horns for the new intro That's something I can do

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[00:06:53] But the reason We're here I would say Is because A little network Called BET Decided That they wanted To drop Their 15 greatest Black wrestlers Ever Article Which I mean It just For me Came out of nowhere Because it was like BET is talking about Wrestling Okay Yay And I first Had the list I was like Oh okay Cool

[00:07:23] But then It stirred up A conversation Online So Before we get into Who's actually On the list Let's talk about Like Kind of like The drama So Mo Odie What happened was BET drops the list People are like Does BET Have the credentials To talk About black wrestlers And it stirred up A conversation About Who has The credentials

[00:07:52] To rank Black wrestlers Odie Can I get your Thoughts first As somebody Who Might be a little Bit newer To the wrestling Than the rest of us What are your Thoughts on Like major Publications Like BET Ranking Wrestlers Well I mean I'm coming from The journalist Side Seeing as That is my Profession Like I think That if you Are a media Platform That you

[00:08:22] Can And should Have the Credentials To talk about Things Especially when It's like They're not You know HGTV They are They talk about Pop culture And media So If there's Someone On Like in the Newsroom Who says Like listen I love Wrestling Wrestling has Been gaining In popularity With black Audiences Not only

[00:08:52] What has It's like It's always Been popular But kind of We have not Been seen As the fans But now We see There has Been an Explosion Of black Wrestlers Especially Black women Wrestlers So that Is like Gaining A popularity So we Need to be Talking about This And the Thing about Media is That sometimes Until you Have somebody In the room That can Speak on The subject And even Bring it Up

[00:09:21] You might Never have The conversation So I think A platform Like BET Bringing this Up I don't Really see A problem With that Especially Because They're not Trying to Say like We are The you Know We are the Experts on Wrestling They're going From whoever The writer was For this Article They might Have you Know Some expertise They maybe Love wrestling I see their

[00:09:51] Name is Tyler Tynes Yeah I'm looking Him up Right now Has been Watching Before Or You know When WCW Was still A thing You know Who knows We don't Know that Person's Background So I Think it's More about When you're Reading the Article Are they Giving facts Are they Showing that They clearly Know what They're talking About And are They giving Us a Wide range Of information Because at The end Of the day Point of the Media

[00:10:20] Is to Yes give People who Are already In the know You know Something to Look at But also To bring In others Who may Not have Been aware And say Like okay Well you May have Thought that Wrestling was Just a Bunch of Racist Hulk Hogan's But actually Here's all The other Black people That you Could be Looking at And talking About Actually I feel Like that What is That It's It's Double

[00:10:50] Obvious Yeah Like Hulk Hogan It's Redundant Yeah I'm looking Up Tyler Tynes Profile Here He was A journalist For the Los Angeles Times GQ Magazine He was Named For 30 Under 30 Honoree He's Worked for SB Nation And above All he's Black So thank God I would

[00:11:20] Hope that He was Black At B Well I mean They have Not They probably Have some Non-Black No They have Some Which is Fine We've Seen it Happen Where people Are Writing on Things They don't Know about He seems Very Qualified To have This Conversation So I Do Appreciate Like Odie Says Like Somebody Finding Their Way Into BET It Seems Like He's He's Newly With BET Now And For Him Bring His Expertise About

[00:11:50] Wrestling To BET Is Amazing Matt What are Your Thoughts On The Maybe It's Just Is It Was It Backlash I Mean We Heard That Jim Cornette Talked About The List Of 15 Greatest Black Wrestlers Does He Have Room To Talk I Mean He Talk Look Okay I'm Not Defending Him At All But That Man Chirps About Everything Like He's Always

[00:12:20] Talking Like He Always Feels Like He Needs To Comment Like I Have Hated I Have Literally Hated Hate Might Be a Strong Word But I've Literally Hated Jim Cornette For Most Of My Lots Lots Of Other White People

[00:12:49] I Feel Like I Said That Like It Was A Slur There's A Lot Of Other White People Who You Know They Just They Commented On This I'm Sure But Yeah We're Here We're Here Doing It Talking About Do We Want To Run Through The List Yeah Real Quickly Like Famously When We Started Wrestling Rehab Up Now Wrestling Kick Back We Did It Because We Said That There Were Not A Lot Of Black Voices Or People Of Color

[00:13:20] When It Comes To Wrestling Like Podcasting It's Okay You Can Call Us White Thank You It We We We We Doing This For Matt It's Almost Four Years It's Been

[00:13:50] Four Years Yeah It's Been Four Almost We're Almost On our Five Yeah We're There And We've Had The Amazing Luxury To Be Able To Connect With Other Black Wrestling Podcasters So I Love This Because Like Odie Said We Really We're Here Black In

[00:14:43] Jazz And We're Just Going To Go Through The Names Lord Knows We Could All Really Talk About These And We'll Be Talking About All Of Them Later So Number 15 Is Jazz Number 14 Is Shelton Benjamin Number 13 Is Naomi Number 12 Is Jacqueline Number 11 Is Big E Number 10 Is

[00:15:13] Blair Number 8 Is Bobby Lashley Number 7 Is Ron Simmons Slash Farouk Damn Number 6 Is Junkyard Dog Number 5 Is Sasha Banks Slash Mercedes Monet Number 4 Is

[00:15:43] Booker T Washington Booker T Washington No Number 1 Is Booker T Washington I'm Sorry Wait It just Always Flows Together But Number 1 Is Booker T I bet You That That's Where Booker T Got His Inspiration From We Have Never Heard Of Any Other Person In History Called Booker T Anything And

[00:16:13] Everybody Knows That Washington Was The One Who Invented The Spinner Ernie Really Matt Really So shady Booker T Booker T What are Your Thoughts On The List Oh My Sorry I'm Still That Was Perfect That Was Perfect Let Me Gather Myself Over Booker T

[00:16:44] Washington Space Because That Would Have Just Added Like Booker AI Of Booker T Washington Doing A Spinner Rooney Yeah So Perfect Timing So The As Far As This List Is Concerned This List Is It Look It's A It's A Pretty Good List With The Exception Of I I Don't See This As An Authentic List Because It's Missing Two Names It's

[00:17:13] Missing D-Lo Brown And Godfather Like How Can't You have The Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All Time Without God Now I Understand That D-Lo Brown Has Been Lost To The Annals Of Time He Really Yeah He Has Nobody Gives Him His Roses Even Though He Should Give Credit Because The Charisma That He Had Just From Walking Down To The Ring

[00:17:43] Doing That Next Thing It Was Like Literally In My Exactly But Godfather I'm A Quick Anecdote My Dad Used To Work For Comcast And They Had Like A Family Day For Comcast At The Fairgrounds And They Had This Booth Where The Kids Could Come Up And Say Something To In The Speaker That Would Be Broadcasted To The Rest Of The Fairgrounds And When I Came Up I Said Pippin

[00:18:13] Ain't Easy Because I Loved The Godfather That Novels Novels Then Yeah I Did But No It Was From The Godfather And I Think That The Godfather Should Definitely I Have A Quick Question Maybe

[00:18:42] I Men And Women On Top Of That It's Like When Bianca Belair Is Nine You're Really Sitting Here Like Wait What But There Are So Many Really Good

[00:19:12] Black Wrestlers Like That Have Come Before These Modern Ones That It's Like Yeah Like It's

[00:20:01] Speechless It I Hope To See A Day That There Is Some Somebody That Rises Above I I Think Of Washington I Think Of Righteous Reg I Think Of Everything They Were Doing With The You Know The What Was It Matt The BRP 50 Black Wrestlers Wasn't It Like 500 I

[00:20:33] Take Some Space In This Type Of Industry And Be Able To Give Each

[00:21:03] This Conversation Up And Maybe He'll Be The Voice You Know I Think When You Mentioned Earlier About Like Why Would Jimmy Corny Jimmy Just Like Jimmy In The Wheelchair Both Corny People Would Be Talking About It Is Because You Know White People In Sports And In General Pop Culture Media In General Anytime Black People Are Doing Something They Always Know To Latch On To It Because It Is Going To Get Them More Likes Whether They're

[00:21:33] Saying A Popular Opinion Or If They're Being Negative Because They Know That Drama Sells So If They Say Something Negative About It More People Are Going To Go Whether It's To Hate Watch What They Say To Hate Comment But At I

[00:22:04] Love It Because Every Time I Think Of Saying Something I'm Like I Wish I Had A Drop For That Yeah So So Let's That's It That's BET's List Today We It's The It's Officially Bracket Season Who Cares

[00:22:34] About Basketball I'm Not Gonna I Do I Do Like I I I I I Am Locked In To See What USC Is Going To Do And Has Done Our Own Bracket Of

[00:23:04] Black Wrestlers Yes Matt Can You Explain You Want To Show The Bracket And Explain How We're Gonna Do This Let Pull It Up Let Pull It Up Let Me Pull It Up Over Here So We Have A Bracket It Is 32 Black Rasslers And Basically We're Going To Go Through The I Made A Last Minute Swap As We Were

[00:23:34] Just Talking Because There Are So Many People We Could Have But It's A Cleaner Bracket With Only 32 So We're Going To Go Through One By One What We're Going To Do Is Because It's So Many Matchups We Have Our Little White Boards Up Hopefully Mario You Have Your White Board Awesome Black Oh Yeah Because It's Black History Month Every Month Very Fitting Yes So We're Going To Go Through And It's Going To Show Us The Pictures Of The Wrestlers In

[00:24:20] The The Number Of Times I Shuffle The Bracket Because These Matchups Are Completely Random So You Are Going To Basically Decide What These Matchups Are Going To Be I Have My Number Yeah It Is Three Okay One Two Three Oh Three Shuffles Okay I Did It Okay It's Completely Random Random So It's Completely Random So Mari I Mean We're Going To Do Look We're Going To Go To Do The Matchups

[00:24:50] We're Going To Try To To Vote We're Going To Decide Who Wins And Then We Can Talk About It A Little Bit But We're Going To Keep To Printed Out

[00:25:20] The Certificates Because We Have A Certificate Do You Want To Read What It Said Hold Let Let Let Put The For A Certificate Of Achievement Thank you People For The Revolutionary To Enter The Wrestling Kickback Hall Of Fame I'm A Fan Of Hall Of We're In It We're Doing It Mari And I Clearly Signed It

[00:25:49] We're Going To Give The Winner A Certificate I Actually Have A Nice Little Sharpie Here And In Fact We Could Even Give The Runner Up A Certificate If We Want To I Have A Couple Of Copies So There You Go The Stakes Are High The Stakes Are Really High The Wins Bracket Will Be The First Inductee To The Wrestling Kickback Hall Of Fame I Mean You Gotta Love It So Let's Do It Let's Get

[00:26:19] Into It All Right So Pull Up The Bracket We're Going To Go Into Match Up Mode Okay Oh Oh Wow Why Would You Do This Women On Women's Women's On Women's This Is Completely Random Women's On Women's This Is The First Match Up Is Naomi Versus Jazz This Is I So Messed Up When I Saw It I Saw That Was The First Match Up I Was I Hate That For Me

[00:26:49] Let's Vote Write Down Your Vote All Right I'm Writing Down My Vote My Blue Marker Okay Okay I'm Going I don't This This This This This Totally Sucks Okay All right I'm Going to Count Down

[00:27:19] Wait Okay Hold On Wait Let Two Okay One Everybody Show Okay Wait Let Let Put Let Let We Got It Naomi Okay For Naomi So Let Let Let Let Let Let I Think That One Of The Reasons Why This Is Very Hard It's Because They Are Both The Most Underrated Black Women Of Their Generations Their Perspective Generations Absolutely

[00:27:49] When Jazz Was Wrestling In Like Early 2000s I Remember Just Loving Her Because Seeing A One Of The First Like Body Yeah Yeah And I Just Connected With Her So Much And She Was So Underrated Even Though I Believe She's Like She's A Two Time Women's Champion I Believe Yeah And She Had Amazing

[00:28:18] WrestleMania Moments Naomi As Well Naomi Is Constantly Under Underestimated Underutilized During The Divas Era She The Most Athletically Inclined One Of The Most Like Talented Women On The Roster And She Finally Broke Through She's Finally Been Breaking Through The Last Ten Years Or So Finally Getting Getting Her Flowers Finally At The Top Of Her Game Now And So And She's Done So Much For Black Women

[00:28:48] And Black Women Wrestling A lot Of The Black Women Wrestlers Who She Is Still In The Tournament So We'll Talk About Her

[00:29:18] She's There To Jazz Jazz The Way I Will Never Forget The Way That Jazz Beat The Bricks Out Of Off Of Trish Stratus Yeah But Trish Number One Just Throwing Her All Over The Place Jazz Was So Great But I Do Think Naomi I Was In ECW And Had That Too But Naomi Has Been Around In WWE For 15 Years

[00:29:48] Back From NXT Where She Was Having Really Great Matches Against AJ Lee Before They Were Really Even Established To Now Naomi Has Constantly Been Underrated So I'm Glad We're On The Same Page About That Yeah Yes But You Know What We Might Not Be On Athena A.K.A. Ember Versus Ron Simmons A.K.A. Farouk

[00:30:17] Damn Damn Like I really Do mean It When I Say Damn Like Come on Man Okay Oh Man Oh Crap I Don't Like This And I Have To Admit There's Probably Going To Be

[00:30:51] Yeah Wait Are we Sure Yes Yeah One Okay Okay Fine I Put Ron Simmons I Put Ron Simmons Too Oh No We're At Deadlock What Do I Was Wondering What Would Happen If Two People Did Okay I Think

[00:31:22] Commissioner Is The Commissioner Still In The Chat Uh Chappelle Oh Chappelle You gotta Break the Time I Don't Know If Chappelle Is Even In The Chat Okay How About This How About This How About We Give Our Arguments For Athena How About We Give Our Arguments For Ron Simmons Okay But Let Let Me

[00:31:52] But Ron Simmons First Black World Champion Beating Vader Ron Simmons Nation Of Domination Ron Simmons APA Ron Simmons Damn Ron Simmons Farouk He Has So Many Different Names Yes Ron That's What I Got That's All I Got Another Person Who Fought And Claude To To Get Some Screen Time On WWE Like Matt But Okay Keep Going

[00:32:22] I'm Going To Add Something But Like Matt Said Starting The Nation Of Domination And Really Just Making A Space For Black Wrestlers To Land And To Launch The Career Of The Rock And Then To Become Farouk A Part Of The Acolytes And The APA Something That Isn't Even Inherently Black In Order To He Transcend His Character Transcended His Blackness Which Is Sometimes Hard To Do For Black And

[00:32:51] You Could Argue He's A Racial Justice Icon In Wrestling Not Only For Nation Domination But You Know We Got To See The Vision Of Brad Shaw And Farouk Together A White Man And A Black Man Together Look At That But I Gotta I Gotta I I Have To Say Something Else I Say One Thing Mari Yeah We Didn't Talk About This Part But Like This Is Our Best Black Wrestler Bracket

[00:33:21] Right Or Is This The Best Black Wrestler Let Our Guests Talk Please No I'm Just Saying No Okay We'll Come Back To That But My Point Is Is Yeah Go Please Honestly Honestly I I I I Was Going For Athena Primarily Because Of All The Great Work She's Been Doing In Ring Of Honor But Let's Be Honest Nobody's Watching Ring Of Honor

[00:34:01] I'm I Know You're Right You're Right Odie How About I Hear From You First Of All It Is Black Women's History Okay And Black Women Have Been Carrying The World On Their Shoulders Yes Okay And I Bet You That Mr. Ron Over There Probably Had A Black Woman Helping Him With His Costumes Hyping Him Up In The Background Helping Him

[00:34:31] Get Over His Wins And Losses And Helping Him Recover So You Can't Tell Me That Athena And The Goddess That She Is Does Not Deserve The Recognition Because For For In The Years To Come Due To The Patriarchy Yeah She Might Be Lost And Right Here Right Now I Need To

[00:35:03] Wait Could I Say I Completely Agree I Agree Let Me Let Me Put In So Let Let Put Out Something But Out Put It In Let Let Both Them So This Is Our Best Black Wrestler Bracket and for me i would take athena any day over ron simmons even though history says we should be taking ron simmons so i would change my vote too what so now we have a double yeah we have a double turn

[00:35:39] i love this i love this because who do i who do i want to who do i want to write the certificate of achievement too not ron simmons no i'm sorry ron simmons like i i love athena i have ember moon i do but unfortunately she's still like you know rising and ron simmons is a history maker changer

[00:36:04] he like helped open the doors for black wrestling fine yeah you're right okay fine ron simmons wins this one yeah sorry if we were there back then you know more of when he was doing more of the history um maybe we'd appreciate him more so ron simmons wins that one especially either i mean i would but i have to i'm sorry mari tells me what to do and i respect

[00:36:29] black women's history month so you know that's oh this is a fun one oh teddy long versus new jack why do they sound like this is ridiculous their names this sounds like not this is like respectability uh politics versus like gangster rat this is like

[00:36:56] what's the what's the man in the suits name again teddy long is he one is he in the entourage for somebody right now no you're you're i i think you're thinking of prince nana yeah you are that guy he wears a suit too the one that yes this is like the church deacon versus the drug dealer on the corner yeah

[00:37:21] and uh the new jack i'm just saying the new jack doc the new jack um dark side of the ring is amazing just yes it is plug that again yes it is oh man who all right get your votes in ready set go teddy long new jack new damn okay that's fine

[00:37:49] fuck respectability politics all you have to do is look at his forehead to show you how much how much he he's done in this yeah we don't we we'll talk more about them as they go along teddy long's fine but here's my thing this is definitely a vote for new jack because new jack scared the shit out of me as a young adult who discovered him like i would not want to meet him and he rest

[00:38:15] in peace to new jack but i i'm still afraid of him i'm the ghost of new jack yeah i still think that he could just burst through this door and and do do some harm to me if i don't vote for him so he's like the most legit wrestler or one of them that i could ever think of wrestling is real to him damn it yeah he threw off that guy off of the scaffold he looked at that was the thing he might

[00:38:45] have done that a couple times listening to him you gotta listen if you haven't listeners uh watch the dark side of the ring of new jack you have to listening to him talk about like literally like physically assaulting people was crazy it was wild um the reason why i put ted long it's just because you know his respect for he he started as i think he's the first black referee if i remember

[00:39:10] correctly in wwe worked his way up to gm he is um very notable for like for that tonight you're going up against the undertaker player holla holla holla he he has a very like known catchphrases but i'm really fine with new jack going forward here that's that's amazing okay next up next up who's up next oh bianca belair okay versus lela lb i want to say the first black

[00:39:38] diva champion yeah she also might have been like the last diva champion we could vote all right did we really need the white board for this though i mean yeah come on now don't don't who's like lela it's bianca

[00:40:01] it's bianca the est yes yeah the est yes first of all can i say why she's the best if you want not only is she yeah an amazing wrestler she fights hard i'd never feel like she's phoning it in no she's always a baddie hair laid outfits to die for and what really brings it over the top is that

[00:40:29] she makes all of her outfits she designs them and makes them and then she helps some of the other wrestlers make theirs and she is in a beautiful black love marriage with her very fine very handsome he is very very handsome he is very very talented yes and they have a cute new show out so please

[00:40:52] watch it and get them readings but yes that is i think that bianca the est i think that she is dope i love everything that she does and even though i am a uh what is it called i i've returned a new no i'm not a new i am a returner to the world of wrestling when i saw her come back out the first time and you could ask him i was like who is that like i love

[00:41:20] her i want to be her i think she's amazing and she's just dope af and she deserves all the things i can know what no no disrespect to layla shout out to her she was part of play cool which i feel like was like in my mind like the original amazing women's tag team that like really fit because there were women's tag teams before that but they would just like flow they had the chemistry it was a

[00:41:48] it was a vibe but we have to keep going shout out to layla wherever you are i hope you're well um next matchup d-low brown versus the bet black wrestler of the century this is not fair well to be fair i did not have d-low brown on here and then you mentioned him and then i i added him

[00:42:11] in oh so it's my fault you're blaming me for it it's good it's good because i could see it oh man all right okay all right all right ready ready ready okay oh we're ready i'm ready three two wait are we ready to show not yet i gotta put mine yeah we're writing it now it's all good uh oh i'm scared

[00:42:39] okay all right you ready uh oh i'm not sure all right i'm sure yeah booker t i knew you i knew you was gonna do that yeah we got booker t any anything you want to i mean obviously we'll talk more about booker t because we'll have him in the next round but any words on d-low brown that

[00:43:05] we haven't said already yeah if d-low had gone up against anybody else i probably would have picked him just because i still think he's very underrated i don't i don't hear enough about him when it comes to like talking about like classic wrestlers from the attitude era like he had a lot of wrestling skill too he had a lot of skill and he had a lot of charisma i think yep very underrated and i i think

[00:43:32] it's due to the accident you know oh oh what happened to him no not to him but he dropped yeah he hurt somebody else on accident yeah yeah it was like it was a wardrobe malfunction basically they're on they're on good terms and all but yeah not is the other guy did he was he able to continue wrestling or was it like really no he was really paralyzed yeah paralyzed oh god but he

[00:43:58] and he worked for wwe for like a ton of years until i don't know maybe like 10 years ago or so so it was like still working on their website and all for a long time yeah so shout out to him he he really yeah it really feels like he doesn't get his his due and i and i think he's still in rest like he's probably behind the scenes at tna or something yeah he was for a while i feel like he has a school somewhere or something i was about to say that too i think he does have like he's a trainer

[00:44:28] if he won this bracket that would have been a good this would have been a good pump yeah it would have helped him um our truth ron killings versus xavier woods formerly this is this is actually really challenging who's that one that's uh our uh our truth all i gotta say is one of these wrestlers does not have any blocks so

[00:44:57] oh she's bitter she's gonna be bitter bitter jerry getting sticky yeah now yeah we're gonna talk about that um because i don't know which one it would be we're ready we're ready we're all ready yep one two xavier woods come on y'all true

[00:45:25] our truth has you blocked our truth has me but i'm changing my vote what's the other guy's name no you can't say you're one i'm changing it but okay our truth is winning this one why why i want to know why he has you block because you deserve it i have no idea i still to this day have no idea why i don't have thank you od like i okay but i don't have corner anymore so it doesn't

[00:45:51] matter our truth is getting that wind he got he blocked me randomly one day and i still to this day don't know why i think i think it was like a mass block i you know oh maybe you were following somebody that he did you say something bad about his childhood hero john cena no i when i found out she can't see him i found out i was blocked right around real it was right after the it was during

[00:46:17] the 24 7 stuff like i love 24 7 stuff and it was right after that i think it was it was during his time with carmella so i was wondering if i was like maybe did i say something bad about carmella and maybe he didn't i couldn't i don't know what happened and then i was just i was just blocked and then i was like okay i'm not mad at it but yeah right i i i picked exactly i'm gonna talk about xavier woods since he lost and we're not going to talk about him but like xavier woods you know he

[00:46:47] did literally literally was on the brink of being fired and he came up with the idea of the new day who are now yeah well i guess did the usos record but yeah new day the new day yeah the new day is one of the like biggest merch selling tag teams of all time um they single-handedly revitalized kofi

[00:47:11] kingston's career launched biggie's career and um you know launched xavier woods uh the new day heels or faces are the best tag team to me ever they are my favorite tag team of all time and when i came back to wrestling when i came back to wrestling it was the same time when new day premiered so i remembered i remembered watching them try and be good guys and the crowd turn on them for what

[00:47:40] felt like no reason and i was like racism and then for them to to ride with it and then become those heels that got them to they were i i love new day new day but so let me just say this too on them like i did for a moment actually this morning tease like or think about putting them together as one entry but that would have been way too powerful like i feel like yeah new day so the biggie and kofi are in

[00:48:10] here uh later on but yeah let's keep going i'm not ready um okay you'll the match up the rock versus jade cargill come on reshuffle no i can't no that's insane it's okay this is insane that is actually ridiculous it's literally like a battle

[00:48:35] for the abs that is not fair that's not is it i don't know if it's not fair mari i think that i have an answer of who's winning so or who i think should win how come your marker is thicker than mine whoa

[00:49:00] this is this is a hard one this is kind of annoying yeah i'm not gonna lie this is gonna be this is what i hate this is i have i have an argument i have an argument okay are we ready yep wait hold on hold on hold on put it down okay okay who is it reveal

[00:49:28] i'm the only one who said the rock yeah happy okay and let me just say let me just say yeah the rocket again the rock was my favorite wrestler growing up yeah um but the thing is right the rocks transcends his blackness like i hate to say it it's true it is dramatic way of saying it but

[00:49:56] you're right it is he wants to be like when he's in a tyler perry film or when he's doing that god awful rap it's about job it's my passion that was so bad it was good i mean it it that's just kind of how it is you know what i'm saying if we're talking about greatest black wrestlers we're not saying he's not black we're just saying if he's going if he's going up against jade cargill i mean she is blackly blackly black black black yeah she is in the divine nine

[00:50:26] is a gay she she brought out like her sisters like it's just like that is if i have to go between two wrestlers who i love who have charisma all of that and and the tiebreaker for me might just be how much do they represent their blackness if we're talking about black wrestlers yes how much do you represent the blackness not how much black how much blackness is in your percentage

[00:50:50] yeah about the representation exactly and the talking about it because i love the rock i think he's great i always used to have such a big crush on him when i was younger he came out and all that always re-rooting for him and you know he does talk about it but i don't i feel like as he has grown in his popularity he more so will emphasize his being hawaiian which is important like i don't know

[00:51:17] oh sorry but there was moana his father isn't his father from hawaii or not his mother his mother hawaii his father is a black american but she's samoan she's samoan from hawaii this is the point it's very like he is he does lean into being racially ambiguous which is yeah yes but he but he i think he like choose picks and chooses he does pick and choose but there are plenty of samoans and folks

[00:51:44] from the polynesian islands who will talk about their blackness because they will talk about look at our ancestors look what happened we're only this light skin and hair this this um straight sometimes because of the colonizers and what they did this is something that they talk about all the time go watch the movie uh once we were kings or whatever it's a name and it was really good it came out in the

[00:52:06] night but we need it yeah he does not i feel like talk about or embrace as much as he used to which i think is a very common thing to happen with people in um the media remember hallie berry's love love interests got lighter and lighter and lighter she went from wesley snipes to freaking whatever brad

[00:52:31] type actors throughout her career and so you just have to say he just doesn't talk about it all that much yeah like if we're going by that if we're going by that metric then yeah i guess i would go with jade cargill too i mean also say she we'll talk about her again obviously but like she has a lot that in her short career she's already proven her dominance like there's really a shine there i saw her in an

[00:52:58] airport we'll talk about that again later when we bring her up so um yeah let's let's keep going let's keep going yeah let's a lot of long way to go we got we got a long way to go kofi kingston and mark sexual chocolate henry oh is his name actually sexual chocolate it was it was at one point yes it was yeah when may young had his baby oh my goodness sorry oh yeah i'm ready to

[00:53:26] write that down are we we're almost done with the left side of the bracket yeah i mean that's like the yeah the first round and then we're gonna go through the rest i mean we're pretty we're making good time all right i was worried we'd be here yeah for three hours there we go sexual chocolate kofi oh god do you want to explain do you want to explain who us yeah yeah explain why yeah

[00:53:56] mark henry oh come on he gave birth he he is the father of a hand like come on he didn't even give birth to it but he's the father he's the father i would be i would be more impressed if he actually gave birth to a man yeah no man like he he was like a he was a very unsung hero for a very long time before

[00:54:25] before his uh before his sort of like rise in his fake retirement and then he squashed john cena like at the the pink salmon suit is forever forever engaged in all of our memories like come on man cameron let i'm afraid he's the cameron of wrestling

[00:54:50] but you know what kofi kingston is the beyonce of new day so what are we even doing like okay you yeah exactly it's time that you change you mentioned beyonce that makes me feel oh now i should change so yeah so mark henry has done a lot i would say he's done more in like discovering talents like bianca and jade um some of his takes on his podcast a little sus

[00:55:16] though oh but all that aside his his career like i get it like sure he was one of the first like black champions for wwe i believe yeah well yeah um depending on the title lineage you go through yeah but for me i never i never connected with mark henry um yeah like it would just it felt like he it felt like they they threw a lot of like shit at him like it felt like they rewarded him because he was

[00:55:45] like the the black guy who would just take it take it take it he would do whatever they said and then they're like okay now that now that we've like you know did whatever we wanted with you here's the title you know yeah there's some nasty stuff they did to him and that's actually a point i mean and i know it was a different time but i feel like a point for me against certain people will be just like what they allowed what they let happen yeah yeah no like that baby with the hands i can see that i

[00:56:14] can definitely see that he had had a baby with the hand are you talking about like hey like hand of the king or was an actual hand no it was an actual hand it was an actual hand did this weird storyline with this lady with may young i think um oh yeah and she gave birth to a hand it did not okay like i still don't understand it was funny at the time i laughed but i don't understand it i can't show that picture i really want to show it don't i hope you don't i hope we never see that

[00:56:43] picture i will say this that there may young showed up with the hand like years later later where the hand grew up yeah and and i just have to say i'm gonna have to pull up a picture of this because the hand does not resemble mark henry oh

[00:57:09] i'm just saying yeah points against points against you on that one i think someone needs to change their vote all right honestly just because that honestly now now i think that she cheated on him uh and now that is uh and that is not his hand so i'm changing my vote i'll change my vote i don't know i'm changing my vote and that's the only reason why i'm changing my vote i want that on the record you know what

[00:57:36] mari mari we're okay with that we're okay we'll talk about kofi i like people on our podcast me too um okay we're in the so we went through the first round on that side of the bracket here we're just going to go through people we've talked i was about to pull the hand again instead of the bracket uh okay so let's go through this is going to get really interesting so

[00:58:04] ron i want to say ron killings wait i know it's not no no no we we have to do this this one the way the bracket works it's like oh the way oh you have to do it yeah it's all good it's all good it's easy naomi naomi versus farooq aka ron simmons history maker i mean are you ready

[00:58:29] hold on i have to i have to write my name we even have to we could just say our votes now that we're going through people we've already been through yeah if we've already been through them yeah who wants to go first maori does naomi just because i mean ron simmons is great but but this is this is our best black wrestler bracket and it would be wrong if naomi wasn't in it and i support

[00:58:54] black women so mari i'm supporting you and uh naomi is also gonna be my vote but shout out to ron simmons but like he's not barely got through but he barely got through that last time um and he's not getting through this time because i'm going with naomi and it's black women's history month so you already know who i'm voting for so we're going with naomi okay naomi who's up next let's see oh

[00:59:22] okay oh my god we don't even have to vote no we do have to vote no we don't we do new jack versus bianca belair bianca belair bianca belair okay but here's the thing new jack could have won this whole thing no because no the way that he sits in my nightmares but you know what he's also a

[00:59:48] felon and other things like not oh yeah yeah he is a felon wrestling was real you didn't like attempted murder almost yeah uh the mass is it that called the mass transit yes the mass transit up in europe in new york he cut some he he almost just like took his eyeball out he almost killed this guy who shouldn't have been wrestling who was like 17 but then the guy died like a few years later but so new jack technically didn't kill him but um i'm just

[01:00:18] saying it was very close yeah and there was you gotta show her the dark side of the ring after this i will i will after this we'll watch the new we'll watch that new jack episode there was a time where he stabbed some old man like jungle joe or something just randomly yeah yeah but not in a wrestling like no it wasn't a wrestling capacity but but still yeah and then he he like he like hard tossed somebody off yeah we talked about anybody talk about this when we were doing that original vote because i would

[01:00:46] have gotten uh george george foreman in the in the suit because you have to respect jack or else he's gonna kill you yeah clearly so i think you're gonna go with this one i think we're gonna go with her anyway but oh okay wait i'm begrudgingly going with bianca but i just to the ghost of new jack i want to say that i didn't do this i i was outvoted i was outvoted outgunned and now in case he comes

[01:01:16] through and slices me with a fucking uh razor in my head and you know what bianca her black the way she represents the blackness in all of her looks never like come on she does we'll keep going let's keep going the next one next match booker t and r-truth and to me it's a it's amazing that booker t

[01:01:39] made it through the first time against d-low brown but i don't know this is a hard one this is a hard one i would like to hear y'all votes on this one yeah we have to talk yeah who wants to start us out i think i mean mo let's go that it was easy oh yeah i i'm going with booker t come on man like

[01:02:02] okay okay so our truth i know i heard that heavy side matt okay uh but but the reason why i'm going with booker t is because like it like if if for nothing else then if we're going with representation like the work that he did with her yes and okay but first five time five time five time five time five time five time five sure but i and i'll probably i'll probably dial on dial on i probably

[01:02:29] will agree though with booker t but i just have to bring up the work that he did with triple h i would not i did not like what triple h did to him oh yeah yeah i don't like that either t's fault but and then the time that oh my god he didn't have power here's my thing here's my thing with booker t there was that time that like vince mcmahon said the n-word to john cena and then he was like and then he and then booker t was there and it was like a whole thing and he kind of went with it i just

[01:02:58] don't trust booker t but that's not gonna be my problem you know in a you know in a wrestling in a wrestling scene vince mcmahon said what up my and to john cena walked away and then walked past booker t who had witnessed him do that and booker t said tell me he didn't just say that well i was gonna go with r truth because i found him more attractive than booker t and i was waiting

[01:03:27] for one of you to give me a well no the abs he's like 70 and he his face looks more attractive than booker t booker t just looks like a put that photo back up i'm sorry can we can we put that photo

[01:03:39] back up no he does not i mean i don't know what he looks like now but in these photos he looks amazing

[01:03:58] over the edge because hell to the na na na na na wait you should have punched him right in the face i don't care if it was a skin i know vince mcmahon is a fucking devil but like come on son like you can't just that's the one thing i problem i have with a lot of the black wrestlers especially the old ones

[01:04:23] is that they would always let this the terrible racist yeah so i know this was like any non-white person in wrestling they always had to deal with these super racist or the women doing sexist stuff but i just feel like i can't i can't just be like all right it was of the time because sorry you should have punched him in the face i don't care but you know what okay but let me also add this

[01:04:50] should not have been this booker t does not it should be booker t yeah it really should be booker t it should be you did do the spin of rooney so that's what i'll give it but i can keep going you know what we do have to give it to booker t yeah right because like let's just be real here i mean booker t washington was also a hotel yeah what's what's the next match oh no oh

[01:05:17] oh yeah jade and kofi i already know okay no no let's let's let maury start no why does okay so let me let me start okay i'm gonna start you're so kofi kofi kingston

[01:05:40] had a long career with wwe constantly being overlooked he was he would make mountains out of molehills he would um they would randomly tag him with some random person and that team would be a tag team champion by the end of whatever like kofi kingston went from a tag team specialist to

[01:06:03] to kofi mania one of the best moments in wrestlemania history where he won his first and only currently wwe championship and he he's been a moment that will stand the test of time i say all that to say that i'm voting for dave cargain i knew that's where that was just because she is on the up and up as well okay but let me give this to you two because i really didn't think you were going to say that here's my thing with kofi i'm just

[01:06:33] gonna see i feel like this brackets can turn us to trash trashing black wrestlers like we're on we're high on them when we want them to win and then mostly me oh shit i see what you're saying yeah because like there's the jamaican gimmick but he wasn't even jamaican yeah right but honestly like i don't well i don't know his name is called you know which is a ganaian name but then isn't he nigerian

[01:06:56] yeah no no he's gonna he's good he's actually is but he's from boston area but he's pretending to be jamaican i don't like any of it well he was pretending he did pretend he did but to be fair he had the accent too but he did he did it well he did it well people loved it people i'm sure the white people did love it i have to go with i like that i loved it actually i love he didn't know he wasn't

[01:07:26] at the yeah his name was coffee this was before the internet you don't know this was back when like bear share was still like the thing that you download stuff his name was kofi kingston kofi kingston come on like you kind of jamaican and he had it it was so fun but he did such a good job it was i will say i will say if you look at and this is not a fair way to look at anyone but

[01:07:50] the percentage of his career that he was kind of just like floundering in places kofi mania was a thing but then dropped off you know so and but he's doing great work now but jade cargill i'll tell you the day i saw her in the airport i almost lost my shit and i still think about that day because i saw the back of her head and i was like and her abs too and i was like i think that's jade and it was jade

[01:08:19] and they talk about the the airport test they're like oh that's someone you see in the airport you know they're a big deal that's her and she was undefeated on undefeated tbs champion in aew up until when she had to leave there she's in wwe she's gonna be such a star forever like you didn't say anything right you just like looked at her right no i didn't know okay so i looked it up and then i

[01:08:47] and i was like no they're not in atlanta and then i remembered she lived there and i and then she was walking way way too fast for me to get to her because i would have said something but i i i saw the side of her and i was like that looks like jade but it was literally like hair abs crop top and i'm like but can we just remember talk about how amazing it is that she is a mother yeah she has

[01:09:16] those abs and it's not even like it's not even about like moms need to like women's bodies need to snap back or anything like that yeah i'm talking about the fact that when you have a child i have not have one obviously mari knows more about this than i do but when you have a child i don't know if she had a natural birth or c-section but it is a lot of trauma to your body especially your midsection

[01:09:43] so for her to still be able to fight harder to than anybody in the room male or female to look better to have the stamina and to go hard in the paint every single time she is that's why i said she's not just top 15 she's top five okay she's a black mama doing big ass black business and showing the

[01:10:10] world yes are you yelling at us like yeah she's so angry right now i'm excited i'm excited about her i love her so much okay but let me just let me let me add for her she is the owner of a business she is yes she's a business owner of the texas smoke yeah yeah smoke and she is also she has her

[01:10:36] master's degree in child psychology she's a child she could be a child psychologist right now she's so successful she does not need rest she does not need wrestling wrestling she doesn't even need her husband who doesn't is a former mlb player so you look good i think we agree right we have to yeah yeah we're going with j cargo okay well it happened so there we go wow poor kofi okay but here's the part where we have to finish this side of the bracket which is

[01:11:05] going to be very painful oh wait what is it oh it's going to be naomi versus bianca yes it's naomi versus bianca okay i know it's not even hard for me yeah i'm just going to start this out yeah bianca belair hands down and you know naomi recently and her um going against their triple

[01:11:29] threat i didn't like that what a way what a big three oh god i love it like she said always no big three is just big me and now look at what's going on yeah but i love bianca and and bianca bianca knows like she gives naomi all her flowers of like she is the one who inspired her in this business who helped her in this business i love them just say it's hard it's hard

[01:12:00] yeah we're going with bianca i wish we didn't have to oh all right oh okay well we don't know this podcast we all know where this is headed yeah just click on jade and let's just keep it moving because it's unfortunate it is and that's what i was saying i was saying it's going to be

[01:12:23] bianca versus jade i hate this so much so now so now where's all of y'all's black women history month there's two dope-ass black women having to pick between the two how am i gonna be treating great and great yeah yeah pick between great and great yeah marie it's just gonna be bianca just because bianca has everything she is like literally the face she's one of the faces of the company

[01:12:51] i've never seen like a black women's wrestler be so mainstream as she is like and not only be mainstream but be pushed the company values her and pushes her like she gets the treatment that like charlotte it's like you know what i'm saying yes she's she's john cena of black women in wwe

[01:13:12] can we just say like jade cargill one she's older than bianca again she's a mother um no she's older bianca's older than jade cargill yeah bianca's our age and jade is i think 32 i think jade's yeah jade is 32 yeah you said that so confidently i thought she looked a little bit older than her wow damn she was like 80 i just thought she was a little older

[01:13:43] she's a mom too so i just always thought she was older okay this is what i want to say i love bianca i feel like can we say that there might be some like bianca looks more like feminine than jade so that's why she's getting certain treatment because jade's body

[01:14:05] is too stacked up and they feel like she's as marketable to the masses no no no no bianca is super pro black you're gonna get canceled jacked up woman and they're like no people are not going to try to go for her because she doesn't look that soft she's a hard body are you kidding yeah but compared to jade not really look at jade and look at bianca next to each other jade looks

[01:14:35] like she can smack bianca into next week they both look like they eat nothing but abs then bianca that is it and that is all all right okay i don't want to i don't want to have this conversation i don't i don't think i think they are both equally yoked when it comes to body um i

[01:15:04] just think that bianca i don't bianca we need to vote bianca's been doing this longer than jade i believe jade is she's got seniority yeah she does and she's just yeah she has it she's very polished bianca has it bianca can go on good morning america she can go on sports center she can go to the nickelodeon awards didn't we just talk about how jade has a master's degree in child psychology yes but did she do all those things no she hasn't she just hasn't why because they haven't chosen

[01:15:32] she's still working no no no she's still working she's getting there working she's getting there she will get there she will get there but she's not there and bianca is there that's the day you know what and i will say look i will i'll put it out like i'll put it like this like if jade won our certificate and then bianca saw that news like bianca might be like huh but then if if jade

[01:16:01] won she'd also be like yeah bianca deserved it instead so i'm gonna have to go with bianca here yeah that makes sense i love them both this is very difficult yeah is it it was i think this is our last matchup of this round yeah we have a whole nother side we do we do and we're gonna start from square one again um but okay so i pulled it up right okay well it's gonna show us our next first

[01:16:28] our first round on the other side so first up bianca wins that one shout out to her she's making it to the final she will get a certificate in the mail somehow um yeah what did you just say i can't tell from these photos the godfather the godfather and sasha banks money aka sasha banks and i already well let's just write it down again yeah let's let's who oh yeah okay just i have a quick question

[01:16:56] before i write sasha banks does she currently wrestle yes yes mercedes monet she's in aw she has like she she has a lot of championships right and the godfather is he still currently wrestling or no no he's when did he was he in like wcw no he was wwf wwf we'll talk about him okay

[01:17:19] yeah he was he was in he's he was in like the late 90s early 2000s yep we're gonna get we'll tell you all about him are we ready not yet almost yes i'm ready okay mercedes because of course who who

[01:17:40] i'm the only one who chose oh wait yeah you said godfather okay yeah yeah yeah so i'm in the i'm in the minority i'm in the minority tell us about my uh godfather mo all you have to say is that pimpin' ain't easy um and that's enough no uh god but like i'm only gonna talk about my childhood

[01:18:03] my mom would only allow me to have uh like black black uh comic books where there was the black main character and toys where the characters were uh black and one of the first toys that i ever had was a godfather toy and i remember and and i had to convince my mom so hard to give me a steve austin toy

[01:18:32] and she still gave me a steve austin with a godfather toy and i would play with that godfather toy and steve austin and godfather would win more times than not like any time that i would play and so for me godfather holds like a particular like feeling in my heart for that like just because like he was the he was the he was the first black wrestler that i can remember when i got into wrestling in the 90s

[01:19:02] you know what that was a little that vote shouldn't have been as easy as it was because you're right but and you'll also just shout out papa shango was a thing yes yes um he was the good father in right to censor like he was right to censor love um he had his train he ran like yeah well i can't say it because i don't want to get canceled but his his don't don't

[01:19:31] don't more about this train no it's not that kind of train he didn't run that kind of train but he he had a he had a a bro train but wasn't bro uh anyhow it was kind of offensive it was all right i can't believe that was on tv i mean you're just like that's like the number one thing where i'm like you can't sir and he's a cool he's a really cool

[01:19:59] dude and he lives the gimmick apparently i think he owns a few clubs or he owned a few clubs too so that was his thing part of like a friend group with the undertaker yeah like the bone skull crew yeah yeah bone skull crew or something but you know what we got it we have to keep going on this but i feel like yes it's poetic justice that she beat him because

[01:20:25] he he women's rights black women's history month yes um next match um two people who are currently working together on tv mvp and shelton benjamin who are in of the her business slash the hurt syndicate over at aw and i believe shelton and poppy lashley have the tag championships right now or they did or something like that we don't watch aw like that

[01:20:54] um but yeah i have my vote i'm ready shelton benjamin and that's wait yeah shelton benjamin and mvp yeah montel vontavious porter if you want to write out his if you nasty all right ready and mvp oh shelton yeah

[01:21:22] why what were you thinking i did because mvp was like he i think he's one of the only like black wrestlers that i think about when i think of the united states championship and how his like you know like i can do anything you can do feud with with matt hardy was like really raised that title belt um i think he he's like a very prominent mid-card black wrestler and i love everything that

[01:21:50] he does as a manager i love managers i've said this before on on this podcast like managers are so under underappreciated um but i'm ask for the manager yeah okay next matchup uh awesome kong aka amazing kong of

[01:22:11] a fame impact fame versus alicia fox damn this is who this is interesting this is an interesting can you tell me their names again uh kong or amazing kong or awesome kong she went by both and then also alicia fox and she she went by karma very very briefly in wwe

[01:22:34] she did like two months like she was she barely oh this is hard yeah this one is challenging i don't know so i'm excited to talk about this one yeah me too and give whoever loses especially their flowers this is very very hard oh my god okay i'm ready ready wait i'm gonna put it down there we go are we

[01:23:03] ready are we ready uh-oh odie and mo are doing some back behind the scenes dealings alicia fox oh yeah awesome kong i was gonna put one first i was gonna put one first i was gonna put one i'm excited though that kong made it through this one we'll talk more about her obviously but i just feel

[01:23:26] like she was so dominant in tna like you never saw a woman like that or well yeah you never saw a woman like that who was just big and strong and the big bad obviously wwe didn't work out that well for her aew also didn't really work out that well for her but she was in the royal rumble oh in the men's royal rumble one in the men's she was in the men's royal rumble once yeah i think she was the second

[01:23:54] woman to uh be in the men's yeah they don't do that more often that's what i'll put put bianca bel air in there or jade or something china china and nia jacks right no that's phoenix and then so it's been four oh there's been and i i think we can i think we're good like you know i think we're good

[01:24:19] yeah i'm just i would just say alicia fox again she's the first and only uh black uh divas champion she at one point was one of the only black women wrestling at a point so she was like carrying it on her screen you know on her screen on her shoulders um she's very underrated she was actually very good like a very good wrestler like technical wrestler but didn't get as many opportunities as she could

[01:24:48] have and or should have and then you know was fighting some demons near the end of her run there um but she yeah but she is definitely like we have to give her flowers for holding down black women when yeah at a point in time of wrestling where there were not many of us and she's still up there she's still wrestling on the independent scene like you know hopefully she's doing well where she is shout out

[01:25:14] to victoria motherfucking cage yeah alicia fox's number one fan previous guest uh but yes we let's keep it rolling just keep it going and flowing this is an interesting match jacqueline versus viscera aka big daddy v aka um i feel like there's another name viscera

[01:25:40] it was mabel mabel mabel yeah mabel she looks like tokyo tony yeah finding honestly finding a picture of her was hard to do because they're all in like black and white almost you know they're old school jesus she's not that old yeah well no they're like not yeah we're ready are you ready i'm ready we're ready okay miss jackie if you're nasty

[01:26:07] yeah we both have jack jacklyn jackie moore um yeah this is mabel or viscera like i do know like people liked him did they no i think didn't he almost injured the undertaker at one point i think so and that's why he like i think that's why they like took him off the screen oh yeah he was just so big that's the thing he was like probably legit 500 pounds they said yeah and and yeah how tall

[01:26:37] they said he wasn't safe let me look him up i mean yeah but that's why he wasn't safe because he wasn't like following like with the rules or no he wasn't just just because he he it i don't want to look i'm not i'm not body shaming anybody i i don't six nine 487 pounds no way and he's from that's a lot harlem harlem from harlem

[01:27:04] can you imagine walking down the street in harlem and see that man walking back yeah that was pretty cool i didn't like big daddy d that was you know what no that was weird but i will and then he had a whole thing where he was like uh dating lily and garcia where they're like oh i'm sure vincent man's like oh let's put this big black man with this little white woman and it was a thing but um you know what and he had like a i don't remember what it was but he had like white

[01:27:32] colored contacts at one point yeah yeah he had those like evil looking eyes contacts that's what did it for you was the color contacts get out of here you know we didn't we don't really we didn't really talk okay i was gonna say in the second round we didn't really talk about most people because we were trying to get through it but can we just say miss jackie the reason why she was like the contemporary like black contemporary uh sable like she had a body

[01:27:59] she but she could actually wrestle um she was so she she was able to keep up with that with the like the sexy half naked era of wwe like she's like kind of like the first black like play playmate like yes like people actually were like sexually attracted to so it was it was like it was lovely to see somebody who was so feminine and yeah crazed for her feminine wiles plus she was a hardcore champion

[01:28:28] i believe as well oh yeah no she was she was i wanted to bring that point up but i didn't want to be looked at as a creep so wait side note side note she was the first black wwe cruiserweight champion so she was the only woman who held it i think but like also the first black one yeah exactly yeah that's she's amazing she and she's so tiny too yeah and like just more on her because i feel

[01:28:57] like i keep seeing a lot of her on my social media because she's just been around really i think she was in i want uh no yeah she'll be at like conventions and things yeah a lot now a lot of conventions but she used to be like her at a convention but i couldn't just like i almost met jade cargill at the airport it was just me gawking from afar just like yeah gawking from afar

[01:29:22] confused wow okay let's keep going devon dudley of the dudley boys versus boogeyman that man is scary yeah he's the boogeyman oh yeah that's his thing i do not like worms in his mouth he used to have worms in his real world real world he still does that he

[01:29:46] does it whenever they he pops up and asks i think he's still on a legend contract i'm sure he is yeah he has to be because look look at that guy come on y'all we gotta get his arms are ready yeah wait hold on we're almost done okay sorry i'm ready three two one

[01:30:12] devon dudley devon devonda yeah here's my table get the table here's the thing i feel like okay let me put it like this how do i say this how do i say this it made me so uncomfortable every single time that bubba would tell devon to get the tables why because because it was a white dude telling this black dude to like do heavy labor

[01:30:40] no but no but let me get to love that shit no but let me break let me bring it up because like they've talked about it they've talked about they're like yeah this is like that i like he was they were both okay with it like devon's okay with it it was like and it was like but apparently it's like an honor for devon to get the table because people wanted the table that is the exactly

[01:31:04] yeah exactly people love tables so therefore the person to get the table is gonna get cheered exactly so i felt uncomfortable but devon what a legend i don't know how many times he's been tag team champion but i will look that up because probably about 30 times with bubba like arguably the best tag team of all time when they split up and you're like wow poor devon he is not gonna

[01:31:31] yeah survive and then he comes out with his reverend reverend evon gimmick and and then ends up bringing on deacon batista batista is made and look at him look at where batista is we don't get we don't get batista without devon devly yeah let's stick let's stick with that

[01:31:53] started yeah brother testify you know what it is wild because devon really he wow they should have done that reverend giving for even longer than they should have and this is just fun to do like it really is 23 every now and then every now and then when i'm at like thanksgiving and stuff and we're saying grace i'll just i'll just bust out a

[01:32:23] honestly honestly i feel like devon is in a spot where like 23 time tag team champion tna hall of famer wwe hall of famer and probably other hall of like in my mind he could win this tournament i'm not gonna lie i'm excited for this next ringer by the way i'm excited for this next oh wait who is because come on that was good i didn't like that i don't i don't like i don't

[01:32:51] want to talk about no scary and worms in his mouth yeah yeah it was he he needed to be in the bracket yeah we need like we needed someone to round my dreams like were those fake teeth that he has that make no i think that's real and or did he push his mouth out to look like that i i don't know he had no teeth in the front od he had no he had no top teeth no bottom teeth so he put the worms in and let

[01:33:18] them like slide out yeah get out of here this is nasty okay we're gonna keep going this is my favorite matchup keith lee versus shaniqua does that an aka linda miles linda miles tough enough with tough enough to winner yeah aka dominatrix shaniqua guy versus keith lee that's so racist

[01:33:49] oh was her name actually shaniqua or no her name was her real name was linda miles and they yeah she cried all right you ready i can't wait hold on i need to change my vote i can't do that ready three no okay i'll leave it it's fine

[01:34:19] one keith lee you voted for keith lee right both of you oh yeah we're tied i put in shaniqua no i love linda miles watching tough enough was no original tough enough keith lee wins but shaniqua and the boys what was the name of her shaniqua oh the bashing brothers the bashing brothers yeah she would literally they would have

[01:34:46] well she was with the bashing brothers but she came she came at a weird time because she wasn't like a great wrestler but like they didn't she was on smackdown they didn't have any women's wrestlers it was like tori wilson who wasn't really wrestling damarie like nydia kind of was but like oh yeah they didn't wrestle they didn't wrestle so i would have loved to see shaniqua versus like jazz you know shaniqua versus like any of the wrestlers but she never did that

[01:35:14] for god i know i had to vote for her because of the the crime against her name because that was just ridiculous yeah me too but she was a fine name but like your name is linda and they're naming you she was like my sister's name is shanique yeah and that's why i thought you were gonna vote for her because her name no but her name's not shaniqua it's shaniqua we have to give it we got to give

[01:35:39] it to keith lee keith lee is one of the one of the best male um wrestlers of all time i loved how he i loved how his gimmick was to talk like perfect english yeah i don't know it's weird as a black man he's like and he was and he's just a nerd he's a nerd yeah he's a nerd he loves his uh his uh move is the spirit bomb isn't it like his uh his power bomb move isn't it the spirit bomb

[01:36:07] yeah so he loves dragon ball oh yeah so he is he's just a great wrestler i think i feel so bad for his like health history because it's the only thing it's the only thing preventing him from being like what's wrong with him the number one what's wrong with himself he has health stuff like it's like i don't think it's super made clear just because yeah he almost died of code we did know yeah yeah

[01:36:35] he's almost out of covet yeah um so i think that keith lee should bring on keith lee the food the ufc site ufc fighter slash yeah food critic and they should do a little skit every time that name trends i'm like i don't know who yeah i have to click and figure out no it actually upsets me every time

[01:37:00] his name is trending because every time before i click on i'm like it's not it's not the keith lee that i wanted to be it's always oh oh atlanta has bad food okay you're right no i want to see him i want to see him pounce adam cole like in nx yeah come on man let's go let's go let's go okay next up

[01:37:21] queen charmelle aka uh spouse of booker t versus swerve strickland okay this is come on i don't know if it's that easy we don't really need oh well uh oh i don't even know now based on some of what you're saying

[01:37:47] let's go come on wait hold on let me just show some respect looks so funny i have no idea yeah reveal it's where i put down i put down charmel because she was a nitro girl back in wcw doing her little dancing thing and then she was the queen and she was then being chased down the ramp by kurt angle

[01:38:16] oh yeah didn't he oh no yeah he did that was problematic he did what did he as fuck no he didn't do anything to her but he no he did he was implied like sex crimes yeah yeah it was implied it was implied that was a weird time uh but charmel what a queen i give her that vote as a sympathy vote you know charmel is one of uh two participants

[01:38:43] in what is named the worst match of all time yes she is jenna marasca yes she is survivor winner yep so um much but she's not even a real she's not even a wrestler so she's i mean she you saw her not in that match she really carried jenna marasca it's fine let's go uh next up

[01:39:08] bobby lashley and big e oh oh and the funny and the funny thing about this is they actually had a wrestling match for the title for the title yeah oh they did so it's yeah like biggie won his um is his first his first his only title yeah oh this is sad but yeah it's a it's a bummer it's a bit of a bummer

[01:39:38] okay i'm ready i'm ready too i'm ready i'm ready reveal biggie bobby bobby big e yeah i have lashley bobby what is with this new day hate i don't it's not new day

[01:39:59] hey it's bobby bobby lashley has has been around for so long and he he was doing such good work for so long and they kept it felt like they kept him away from the title scene on purpose because like even though even though he was like the guy they wanted to push they they still kept him down you know

[01:40:25] what i mean but he still like pushed through until he he got his due it's sad that he got his due i think during the covet era right like yeah during the uh the thunderdome not thunderdome uh the what was it called no maybe that was it was it called the thunderdome yeah it was it was where they had all the tv screens oh um no that was thunderdome like thunderdome screens yeah that was the thing

[01:40:53] yeah let's just call it thunderdome oh it's underdome but i was even more special bobby lashley looks like fancy squidward he does look like fancy squidward he does put that up on the screen man and you will see i'll find it oh don't worry i'm getting fancy squid he looks like him because they're evil okay i just want to say i love biggie biggie is he is like

[01:41:23] again part of the new day which just brought me back to wrestling his his run as the wwe champion i loved it and i'm still bummed that he's been out it's been so long at this point since his neck injury how many years it's been like four years going on i believe you at least probably three 2021 was it 2021 or 2022 probably 2022 because we just started our podcast 2021 you're right oh yeah

[01:41:51] yeah 2022 so it's just like it's it's just sad i really want him i'm glad that he's working the crowd i'm glad he's a part of like that announce desk because that man has made too much charisma for him to not be doing something and shout out to him and um his fiance uh mediums us sister but i i need biggie back into the ring wait what yeah yeah me and sister me

[01:42:14] wait they announced yeah they announced their engagement after christmas wait no not his sister no no that's what i meant her sister yeah they're there i thought that he was with me again no keith lee's with me wait who are we talking about right now we're talking about biggie oh wow

[01:42:40] wait let me pull okay i'm distracted because i'm pulling up this picture no i yes this is a puzzle version that's bobby lashley you wanted to spend time on this yes mari yes we wanted to spend time on this okay we're up next

[01:43:04] we have another matchup mercedes now we're in the semifinals yes versus shelton ben benjamin yes um slash martini's money yes oh yeah we don't have yeah we're good we don't need to write it down we're good sasha okay i hope this gets up kong versus jacqueline i gotta go with jackie i gotta go with miss jackie i i gotta do it one for jackie who's gonna be the

[01:43:33] tiebreaker matt matt come on you know what to do or maybe you don't go with your heart i have to go with jackie oh okay on paper on paper like my i love kong but like that was like miss but like to me it's like a biggie thing i'm like you could have done so much more if things didn't get in the way so jackie jackie did so much she has yeah and she's wearing wearing that

[01:44:01] cow to be fair she is wearing that cowboy hat and you love cowboy carter so yeah you might as well just go with jackie yeah fine yeah we'll go we're going we're going jackie d-von versus keith lee keith lee oh i'm gonna say d-von hard d-von i can see it going either way but the only reason why i go with

[01:44:30] keith lee you know what sorry i'm going with keith lee because of what he uh what represents what he represents oh but now i'm thinking maybe i should go with dudley uh because of what he has done and he is he is a he is a multi-tag team champion multi times around

[01:44:56] and it's just then again just remember because this is our house that's all you know yeah i mean you could we could pick whoever we want i'm gonna go with d-von yeah i love keith lee i love keith lee keith lee for me d-von no i'll go with d-von i'll go with d-von yeah no yeah keith keith lee wouldn't want to be disrespectful and take d-von spot so d-von continues on who's next oh

[01:45:26] swerve swerve swerve swerve swerve swerve swerve swerve sorry lashley we're good oh okay sasha sasha oh this is happening we knew where this was all going wait come is there a world where it's not her though no there's not you're right

[01:45:54] sasha we yeah i think she's gonna make it all the way swerve swerve okay but why look at him swerve would hate this bracket by the way but whatever let's go with swerve wait what do you mean why can't it be d-von he got the tables all those years he got all the tables all the but hey did d-von ever break into somebody's home and put a shirt on a baby

[01:46:23] just saying probably he's been swerved it i i yeah i keep hearing this the swerve and and hang my i hear cool stuff yeah i do yeah there's a compilation video somewhere send it to me okay but like what's okay i like this maybe it'll be sort of what is d-von like i don't want to say what has he done but like is there a moment for him i don't feel like there's a moment let's just go with

[01:46:50] swerve it's fine okay i feel wrong but swerve but now it's just gonna be sasha and swerve yeah right and he's not going he's not yeah it's gonna be sasha okay so so now it's yes we are the wrestling kickback that it comes down to bianca beller versus sasha this is wrestlemania 30 right soundboard us soundboard us wrestlemania uh

[01:47:21] more more give us something else damn where's the lie it's so many of them that she was you have to scroll through um okay we have the final two i feel like we need to honor this moment honor these two

[01:47:51] why are they why did they get to the end of the bracket because bianca hey do you know why they they went through what is it why okay all right let's let's let's let's let's really lay the groundwork here okay so are we gonna write this on our board i think we need to write on our board all right we're gonna write on our board but not yet not yet let's talk about it okay yeah we'll talk about them first and then we'll

[01:48:19] we'll go through this um no no spoilers on who anyone's voting but we'll just talk about it okay so even i'm wearing a shirt for mercedes monade slash mercedes monade yeah sasha banks again um her feud with bailey in nxt single-handedly brought back people to the product myself included literally

[01:48:46] there are people who are like they're like what's your favorite match of all time sasha banks versus bailey nxt takeover brooklyn like it is it is one of the best matches of all time sasha banks like she is one of the greatest romans wrestlers ever and mercedes monade uh she's doing great work over in aew again i just watched clips i think she's

[01:49:14] so funny on her lives when she's being like a dick uh but um sasha sasha mercedes monade is just unparalleled with the work ethic of the type of wrestling that's the type of um artistry she put into puts into her wrestling not him being in the chat and not helping us

[01:49:42] he's been here this entire time i'm gonna no that's me that's me oh okay thank you yeah i'm i'm catfishing as chappelle in the chat okay all right so chappelle's probably like what is she talking about with that when i text him yeah no anyway okay so um so yes so we say that bianca belair like we said is currently the face of women's wrestling in wwe she is multi-talented

[01:50:10] multi-faceted she has a tv show show she has a a hot husband she has it all both of them did they win that sp they won an espy yes yes both of them both of them so this is very hard y'all i just laid out the resumes for both of them uh matt what are your what do you have to add to the uh argument for both

[01:50:37] i don't like i don't i don't like it i don't like that we have to choose and that's why i have multiple certificates that's why i have certificates printed out because yeah i know that there's going to be a certificate with each of their names on it and that's gonna happen so i have nothing to add i mean bianca belair mercedes bonnet i just think what's impressive is that they made it through the entire bracket i think so too because if they were on the same side this would have been

[01:51:06] it would ugly yeah it would have been really ugly so it's poetic justice i i mean look i think and either i don't think there's a wrong choice here i think either of them could win and we could respect it so let's just get to writing down our vote for the winner of the wrestling kickback best black

[01:51:26] wrestler bracket and the first ballot spot in the hall of fame for the wrestling kickback in the first ever first ever iconic i would just like to say she needs to not be the tbs champion like thank you i've been waiting for somebody to say this for the longest time but nobody wants to have that

[01:51:52] conversation no one wants to have the conversation like why are we keeping her away from the main title like is it jade away you know why do you want her not to be the tbs champion because you didn't want her to be the champion period okay no i i don't want her to be the tbs champion i think she could be in the main card championship title uh yeah of course fear but i i just think i i i think she's not

[01:52:22] i think that the tbs championship could be used to elevate more mid mid card to upper mid card champions more than what it's being done now by just it's just not being done now yeah yeah yeah it's just not being done now that's all that's because she's a heel she's a heel so she collects the belts she doesn't defend them so it makes sense but also again this is exact it's it's it's almost the exact

[01:52:46] play-by-play that you did with jade so like what what's different here and why is she not up in the the main title like i don't know that's that seems weird to me but anyways here's what i'll say we're uh almost all ready to vote we're all ready to vote aren't we yeah we are we are all right okay ready uh-huh and one two oh wait yeah we can do it we can do it three two one

[01:53:19] oh no okay yeah wins wait let's pull up the oh let's click on her in the graphic oh look let's see what happens do we would i not choose her i and i'm and this is me like i don't personally enjoy nxt and i also don't

[01:53:47] personally enjoy watching like aew oh so if she has ever been on if sasha banks is doing any of those matches i'm not really watching them because i don't really like them i think they're low budget um damn well fuck they're low game money balance yeah i just would like because the thing

[01:54:10] is like what is it sometimes uh wwe and aew will have like back-to-back matches like one yeah anytime it goes from wwe to aew i'm always like what is going on like why does it look like this like everything seems the production value is different from wwe to aew it's the mtv awards versus the bet

[01:54:38] awards oh and which one is the bet awards odie trying to say w they don't put the money behind it so for me i i am sure that sasha banks amazing stupendous talented all that

[01:55:00] oh is that her right now can you put sarah's comment on the screen please which bianca about bianca um cupcakes bianca is incredible and is my favorite current wrestler same but i don't think you get 2025 bianca without sasha banks and i that's true uh sasha banks versus bianca belair for i think

[01:55:27] i forget which wrestlemania that was wrestlemania 37 37 37 that was an amazing match but that match made bianca and you don't get that without the work that sasha banks put in but yeah bianca belair beat sasha banks in that wrestlemania she did she did just saying just saying it's scripted odie they still scripted her to win

[01:55:56] no no no no no no no we can't we can't we can't just just throw out it's scripted whenever whenever we're losing our point you know what but i will say shots up to we don't have any tea anymore drinks up put your put your glasses up for them

[01:56:21] oh yeah we actually do have shots sorry my thank you for you beautiful black women yes for coming through and doing the damn thing yes and making it happen shout out to all the black women and creating certificates in the mail yes even more wrestling fans and little girls who are

[01:56:43] doing power bombs on the people that try to have them fucked up yes more black women ddts i don't i i really dislike the ddts head injuries there's a head injury what's the other one sleeper holds sir yeah more sleeper fine more more sleeper holds more sleeper holds what's the one where you all right angle your legs wait so figure fours okay all right okay all right okay we did okay we did

[01:57:13] the thing we did the thing what we're gonna do is now what are we gonna do that was that was our bracket that is the wrestling kickback bracket bracket hope you guys enjoyed it maybe we'll put out a blank one if you want to do your own um let us know but we had a lot of fun talking about what i have one more blank certificate and we and i know who exactly it'll go to okay wait because i wanted to talk we'll get

[01:57:39] we'll get to that we'll get to it next right right yeah so i i don't know we didn't we don't i don't read the notes back so that's our bracket thank you comment below let us know what you think uh rate review subscribe so uh because it is a black it is it is women's history month but it is also black women's history month uh od is going to tell us a little more about uh one of the first

[01:58:09] black women wrestlers of all time uh ethel johnson take it away od and yes matt yes so ethel johnson was a pioneer so before we had sasha banks before we had uh the est jay cargo we had ethel johnson black

[01:58:31] and white photos so she was born ethel blanche wingo and she had two she was the middle child of two other sisters who were also wrestlers babs wingo who was the first black woman to grace a wrestling ring and their younger sister marva scott which is marva is such a cousin um that is johnson she wrestled

[01:59:00] throughout the early 50s through the late 70s wrestling across the nwa territories awa the jim crockett promotions big time wrestling championships wrestling from florida and the eventual wwe capital wrestling corporation um she was unfortunately not allowed to wrestle white counterparts on her bouts um so she would face her sisters barbs and marva and um i read i learned

[01:59:29] when i was looking her up for the today's uh show that one of the wrestlers that we look know and love naomi is going to be playing in her biopic yeah on variety announced march 7th that trinity 2 will star in queen queen of the ring

[01:59:53] um which is going to uh bring her story to light another morning movie yes and uh trinity aka naomi said that i am a direct result of that fight which she is so we have to look forward to seeing that if that comes to the theaters i think we need to all come out question did that actually happen

[02:00:17] did she actually end up in the movie oh do you because i know the movie came out wait it came out already it came out yeah yeah queen of ring is already out are we sure it's the same movie oh okay oh i see what you're saying so in the movie queen of the ring where it's about the other the other lady she was playing this lady in that this is maybe she was maybe she was in it

[02:00:42] oh she was in it because we haven't seen it yet i haven't seen it i haven't seen it so i can't i don't know i thought when i was reading this they were talking about that she was creating no you're right she's definitely in it ww star turning to fat two on queen of the ring and bringing wrestling troubles yeah so we haven't seen the movie yet because it hasn't been like it's been it's out and yet it's not like a bit yeah it's not it's not on vod guys it's on the

[02:01:10] festival circuit is that what it is it's not on dvd it's somewhere it's on the festival circuit i looked it up at amc it wasn't there oh yeah it's it's not on it's it's still like not like mass produced out on amc theater well when everyone comes out we need to watch it so that we can make sure to give them give them you know some views because i think that's very important there's also

[02:01:39] um playing alongside uh trinity is damaris lewis who plays baz ringo and cameron jackson who plays marma scott um so uh tradie said the fact that i even get to play her is crazy she debuted around 16 years old and she was the first african-american woman's champion she not only had the struggle of being a female wrestler when all female wrestling was illegal period but she also had to deal with being

[02:02:08] black and that layer of segregation so i think that these are the women that without her and her sisters you wouldn't have naomi you wouldn't have jade when that's the banks the est etc etc and other just even white women wrestlers like you had to have these trailblazers coming through and so it's important to talk about them and and make sure that we are giving them their flowers and in the

[02:02:34] even because i was like i've heard of a movie called queen of the ring why would they give her her own movie and call it the same thing that's so funny okay yeah yeah there we go thank you so much od um thank you that's amazing what an honor and guess what we have a certificate for ethel johnson oh yes the fastest printer in the west

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[02:05:11] gw on all platforms it's that simple i was recently on recap kickback also as mari mentioned earlier to talk about beauty in black what a time what a time to be alive i really want to come on one of these recap episodes that you have talking about shows because i always have lots of thoughts especially when they are fortunate against like a tyler perry production oh okay so the next title yeah the next tyler perry production but then it doesn't have to be tyler perry it could be something else that i

[02:05:40] actually like but if it's not tyler perry i'm i assure you i will have some comments yeah i'm a different person after beauty in black um and shocked that there's a season two so anyway yes check that out again matt scotch gw on all platforms for any of the things i'm also going to be at the post office um figuring out if they know where to ship any of these especially the ethel johnson one

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[02:07:56] raw wwe they break it down for you huh steve awesome undertaker bring it into you round one round two huh what y'all finna do round one round two huh wrestling kickback new we the best podcast come and give up you champion you just like i'm sasha you know that is true