BET Awards 2024 REACTIONS

[00:00:00] Welcome back everybody to Recap Kickback. It's me, Chappelle, and I am here very excited to talk about another episode of, you know, whatever I want to talk about. And I think this time it's going to be specifically a celebration of Black culture and artistic

[00:00:32] accomplishments with a special Lifetime Achievement Award for Usher. Yeah, that's right. It's the BET Awards for 2024 and it happened and we got to talk about it because where else would Recap Kickback would you talk about it? So thank you all for being here.

[00:00:48] I'm Chappelle and with me per usual is my co-host. It's not Keith Lee. It's Mari. Mari, what's up? Yeah, you know, I'm here to talk about culture's biggest night, right? Question mark. That's what that is. Culture's biggest night.

[00:01:04] We celebrate it by nominating everybody and handing out awards for things. I can't wait to talk about this award show. The BET Awards is always, it's always so funny to me, like unintentionally so, but, you know, I can't wait for us to talk about it.

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[00:03:00] To me, this is special. The BET Awards, love it or hate it, it's ours. I feel like for me, like you said, sometimes it's funny, sometimes it's cringy, but it's ours and we got to support it.

[00:03:14] Because if we don't, who else is going to make a whole entire award show just for black folk? It ain't happening often. Yeah, exactly. Like hate it or love it, it happens. But it's us. It's us doing us. And I mean, no matter what, something's gonna go down.

[00:03:38] It's gonna be the talk of the town. So we had to come out, we had to talk about the good, the bad, the ugly of it all. I'm so excited to talk about it.

[00:03:47] Because I know there's people out there that watch it and was like, did y'all see that? Somebody come look at this. Somebody come look at it. Yeah. That's what it makes you do. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

[00:03:58] It's one of those things where you got to be present on Twitter because that's where the conversation, that's like the chat room for the BET Awards. And as much as we complain about it every year, people are like, y'all still watch that? Yeah, we do. We do.

[00:04:09] We do. We do. We watch it. If you watch it to celebrate, you still watch it. And you can do all of those things at the same time. Because like Mari said, it's always an event.

[00:04:18] Before we get into the 2024 awards, Mari, do you have any particularly memorable moments from BET Awards past? Well, honestly, see, I didn't watch them every year, but the past two or three years I have, and it feels like it's gotten really good for the past three years.

[00:04:37] It's much better than it has been before. I don't know why, but before maybe 10 years ago, that might've been when I was consistently watching it. And then after that, I was only checking in every once in a while.

[00:04:52] I remember the Beyonce one, the one where Beyonce actually came. I think she was receiving her lifetime award or something like that. And she did that big old... She basically had a Beyonce concert at the BET Awards. I watched that one. But other than that, it's just been...

[00:05:09] I've been in and out or I listen to other people talk about it. But I think last year was so good. I think the girlies, the rapper, the girly rappers came out last year. And that was amazing. Dochi did amazing last year.

[00:05:26] I remember like, you know, begrudgingly to say, and iSpice did pretty good last year as well. So we got a lot of that again this year. So I don't know what's been going on in the last two or three years. It's been really, really good.

[00:05:41] I hate to say that, but it fell off for a minute. We I mean- It did. It did. I remember the early 2000s, like you said, the Beyonce Deja Vu performance is something that lives rent free in my head.

[00:05:54] Even Monique doing her homage to Beyonce and coming out with plus size dancers and stuff. She did all that dance and all that hollering about being a big girl. And then she went and got skinny, you know, it happens. But it was a fun time.

[00:06:06] I think the BET Award gives us a lot of memorable moments. And I do agree that there was a dip. And then I think in the more recent years when people started to lose more faith in

[00:06:17] the BET Awards, they've really been stepping up and trying to give us legitimate performances, honor the ones that we want to get honored. You know, it really starts to cater to what the crowd wants a little bit more. And there was a lot of that this time.

[00:06:30] You mentioned the Rap Girlies. They were a big part of this show, opening the door, just coming out the gate with Megan Thee Stallion, who, you know how I feel about Meg. I just get on here and start stuttering. I talk about Thee Stallion.

[00:06:48] But I mean, to see her open up the show with Hiss, which is essentially a diss track. She was in her Kendrick Lamar bag, you know what I'm saying? Showstopping performance, but a diss track. Go off Meg. That was a diss track. Yeah, exactly.

[00:07:01] And I think that's what was the dip for me. I think most of those years that I did not watch the BET Awards, it was because it was when there was no female rappers. You know what I'm saying? There was no one.

[00:07:14] And it was just like, it was boring, you know? But now all the girlies are out and Meg opening with Hiss was just amazing. I'm so mad I'm not going to be able to see her tour at all this year.

[00:07:30] But I felt like I got a little bit of taste, a little taste of it. And I'm going to just say this up front because I might as well say it here so I don't keep saying it at the beginning.

[00:07:42] The one thing that did take away from me for her, but not just for her performance, but like everybody who did it was the back, when they use backtracks, like when they're doing the rapping with backtracks. I understand that is what you're supposed to do.

[00:07:58] But for me, somebody who audio processing is not top notch, it's just always too much for me. I feel like I can never, I feel like I can't hear the song because I'm trying to listen to the mic. I'm trying to listen to the backing track.

[00:08:16] I do hate that. That takes away from a lot of live performances for me. But other than that, it still was a really, really good performance. It reminded me, I need to keep making on repeat. I need to go listen to the album again.

[00:08:30] A great way to open the show. Yeah, her album Megan just dropped and as you know, it's got some hits on it. She did that, Where Them Girls At, which I only heard a portion of the album, but I had

[00:08:43] already favorited that song because I heard that K-Stylist sample from Booty Me Down. You know, where them girls at? She got it all on that album. She's rapping in Japanese, like people are talking about that right now. That's the big topic.

[00:09:00] Yeah, I'd be surprised every time she'd come back. I know. When she goes to Japan, I'll be like, she never coming back because she loves it over there. She'd be on her Weeb stuff, I think they call it. She's a little anime nerd.

[00:09:16] It's funny too, because Gwen Stefani, actually she samples Gwen Stefani on the song BoA. Yeah, and it makes me laugh because I think about when Gwen was going through her Asian phase and it wasn't the same. It wasn't the same when Megan is doing it.

[00:09:31] The little appropriated to say the least. But it's so funny because like, but let's be real, when Gwen was doing it, we was all like, yes queen. We was in it. Haru Yuku. Yes, and then it took a few years for us to be like, wait a minute.

[00:09:47] Right. The way she did it was not good. It was not. And she, this ain't about Gwen Stefani, but she was a lot of racist. And then over the course of her career, because I remember when she was a chola, you know, it was wild.

[00:10:01] Top button, drawn on eyebrows. She had a hollaback girl was there too. We're so night and day and now we get the thing. And look at her now, it's all country and stuff. It's a shame. That's a podcast for another time, I'm sure.

[00:10:20] I might need to write that down because that could be fun to talk about some of the more appropriating moments in music history. So put a pin in that. But yeah, we start off with Meg. We get performances from Big Lotto. We get your, your fav ice spice.

[00:10:36] And we do that. Let's stop down because I really like ice prices. Music does not connect with me. I listened to it, but it don't, I don't connect. Yeah, I hear it. But, but I have to give her her flowers on this one.

[00:10:58] She did not have a backing track. That Mike was on. I mean, she wasn't dancing. That's why, but like, I mean, she, she was doing a little two-step enough and I was like, okay, girl, like I, like she has really taken the criticisms and like,

[00:11:14] did it like, I thought her performance last year was actually really good. Like when she had the whole like New York set, the bodega, it was mostly the set that did a lot for her. But again, the Michael's live, like I have to give that to her.

[00:11:29] She did a really good job. I don't, I really don't like that. That's that you think you'd a fart song or you think you did. You really a fight. But even a part. She did it. So I'm going to give it to her.

[00:11:48] One of the only people I could understand, I could hear. You couldn't understand your other fav sexy red. Get it sexy. Get it sexy. Get it sexy. When she was singing the everything song, I was, I was bad. Oh my Lord. I'm like, I don't understand.

[00:12:14] I don't understand. I get it, but I do get it because some of it's earworms, like it's earworms. So I get it. And I, and I do like rich, rich baby daddy. Like so rich baby daddy gang.

[00:12:29] It's just, it's just so much, but the moment when she, when they recreated the, what the white or the cap was up. I think that, yeah, the capital. Chappelle is this. Okay. We got to say it and I'm not going to use the G word because everything

[00:12:49] ain't gotta be the G word. This, this was inappropriate. It was because we all know sexy red. Don't know what the hell she talked about politically. And she'd be out here running her mouth, wearing the red MAGA hats and talk about what she like. Sexy shut up.

[00:13:01] No disrespect, but also be quiet. You're not helping. You're not helping. You know, the BET awards has for better or worse, really tried to highlight a lot of the political, political aspects that we're dealing with right now in 2024.

[00:13:13] There was a lot of, make sure you go out and vote a lot of talking about policy, a lot of talking about politics. A lot of talking about policy, a lot of that throughout the entire show.

[00:13:24] Why the hell do we have sexy red in the middle of it with her make America great again, ass in performing is like, yes, sexy red is a hot topic right now, but let's not lose the plot. You know what I'm saying?

[00:13:36] Let's stick to the messaging and make it a uniform across the board. I literally was like her, the people behind her are like going full. Full mega in a sense, like full, like we know what's going to push the buttons.

[00:13:53] We know what's going to make it talk, make people talk. And I even heard today, like her, her tour is the sexy red for president tour. Like, yeah, you go, you go to sexy red for president.com to get the tickets and all that.

[00:14:06] Like they are leaning into it. People have been talking about like with her talking about politics and endorsing Trump and all that. And being like, kind of like a plant being like, oh my God, just so

[00:14:19] many, so many things that even I'm starting to be like, girl, what is you doing? You know, and it, I could not believe I was like, oh, they are like her dancers are dressed as secret service. I could not believe it. I was like, you know what?

[00:14:40] We're talking about it. She did. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's what they do. They're doing something provocative because it gets the people going. You know, I, I personally don't put any stock into anything that sexy red does. Like, I mean, her music is catchy. Yes.

[00:14:56] But like, I'm not like making any political decisions for myself based off of sexy red comma, but there's not, yeah, there's not to say that everybody is not going to look at sexy red and not

[00:15:06] think of her as some type of role model or maybe, you know, people might actually listen to whatever message she's trying to spread when she talks about politics. Personally, I don't even think sexy red gonna vote. So it's not really something that I'm really worried about.

[00:15:17] She just don't strike me as the rush to the polls type, you know what I'm saying? So I ain't worried about her vote, but I really do want to make sure that we don't lose the messaging here because as Taraji P.

[00:15:30] Henson, our host of the BET Awards this season, will remind us several times over Project 2025 is a real thing and the Republicans are talking about it and we don't want to lose sight of the messaging.

[00:15:40] So what did you think about Taraji as the host of the BET Awards in 2024? So Taraji as a host, I loved it. I thought when she opened up the night with a parody of Not Like Us, it was, what was it?

[00:15:58] It's For Us or something like, what was the show? This is For Us. Something like that. Again, I had to have closed captioning on while I was watching this. Yeah. Because again, I can track all that.

[00:16:15] But she did a really good job of parodying that song, talking about who she is, talking about women getting paid equally and stuff like that, and then also talking about how the night is to celebrate Black people. It was great. I loved it.

[00:16:32] I thought she had some really high highs as a host, like you said. Her motivational rant about politics, she was so passionate about it and she wasn't just screaming at us. She was like, also go do your research.

[00:16:50] You can scream Project 25 and all that stuff from the top of the rooftops, but people just need to go and do their research and really tell what is at stake for this election, especially with the most recent Supreme Court ruling.

[00:17:04] I thought she did a very good job of being open and honest about what's going on in a very decisive election year. As much as some people just want to be, don't talk about politics, take politics out of it, this is supposed to be entertainment.

[00:17:21] There are people probably thinking about that right now as we're talking about this on this podcast, but some of us can't afford to just not talk about it. I get it. I thought she did an amazing job.

[00:17:32] We even got a cameo from Madam Vice President Kamala Harris because of course they are two alumnus of my illustrious university, Howard University, and we got a little segment here, which wasn't a political ad, people. It wasn't a real call between Taraji and Kamala.

[00:17:56] It was a political ad. It said paid by Biden-Harris in the bottom. Kamala, she popped out and had to show us. She heard it was in the streets. She said, girl, I'm out in these streets, and I threw my phone across

[00:18:14] the room and had to go pick it up to tweet. Kamala, you what? Girl, I'm out in these streets. Ma'am. They not like us. They not like us. Thanks, Kamala. I love your good political pandering. Davie Rickenbacker texted me the other day, doesn't she just give you

[00:18:35] HBCU auntie, former staff member of HBCU? She's a cool staff member that you talk to. You really didn't like taking her class, but now that you're not in her class, you can kind of laugh and joke with her a little bit. That's how she felt.

[00:18:49] Girl, I'm out in these streets. Took me out. I appreciated them talking about it and reminding people to go to vote.gov to register to vote. It's very important. We'll come back to some Taraji shenanigans for a little later on. How about that?

[00:19:06] We're not done talking about the rap girlies. Big Lotto was there. She always does. She always does what needs to be done. Give us a dance. That's for sure. She was dancing down. She going to dance. MC Lyte still on the mic doing the transitions in the commercials.

[00:19:26] She is the voice of the VT award. I have to convince myself that she doesn't MC everything. I always hear her in my mind when everybody is about to go to commercial break, regardless of the award show. In my mind, MC Lyte is about to pop up.

[00:19:41] Why is she not at the Grammys? Shout out to MC Lyte. There were a couple more rap girlies who popped up. Of course, we cannot talk about the VT award 2024 without talking about someone who was announced as a participant at the very beginning of the show.

[00:20:00] And then I proceeded to wait. Because deep down, I really didn't think that she was going to be there. I'm talking about Lauren Hill who owes me $85.72 for the concert that she did not show up to. That I paid for. So Lauren Hill, I ain't forgot.

[00:20:18] But she did make it to the VT awards this time. And what year was that? I don't know. But I will never let it go. Okay. Because after a certain year, it's kind of like. It's like the statute of limitations, inflation. Well, no, I mean, like after,

[00:20:35] if you bought that ticket sometime after. You are not about the victim blame me. Because it's not like Miss Lauren Hill hasn't done this before. They said she was back. Mari, I had to go see the comeback. I was like, oh, look, Zion. No, incorrect.

[00:20:50] I was out there by myself, but Lauren Hill performed. That was cool. I was like, oh, I'm going to go see the comeback. I was like, oh, I'm going to go see the comeback. I was like, oh, I'm going to go see the comeback.

[00:21:00] I was like, oh, I'm going to go see the comeback. And then Lauren Hill performed. That was cool. Yeah. It's always good to see like somebody who you didn't think was going to show up, show up, perform again. She still wasn't.

[00:21:19] The Miss education on Lauren Hill was officially like the number one album by Rolling Stone, I believe. Right? Like no, it was Apple music. Apple music. Okay. I knew it was one of them. I'm like, I'm not going to say anything about it.

[00:21:29] But I know that she does have a lot of things that she does. She's a great singer. I know that she's a great singer. And I know that she has a lot of things that she does. That's what I'm trying to say. I'm trying to say,

[00:21:37] I'm trying to say that you can't miss it all the time and, you know, Say what you want to say about all of the things that she does, but when she shows up and she sings it. It's a can't miss it. So, I mean, The BG.

[00:21:49] You might, yeah, she might miss it, but we're going to be there every time. You know, what our clown noses on Mari. I will never let me, I will never let somebody disrespect Michael Joseph Jackson like that. Okay. Yeah. Sorry, sorry.

[00:22:00] It might be a top 10, but it ain't number one. That's it. Thriller was yeah. They put number three thriller at two. Anyway, nevermind. Again, podcast for the other time. In Lorne Hill performs with YG Marley, who I never seen before. I've never heard of him.

[00:22:21] I've never heard the song before, but I had never seen him. I did not know this was Lorne Hill son and Bob Marley's grandson. Yeah. I was 10 years old. Yeah. She wrote the one song about. Carefully. She wrote that about her breakup with what is Ziggy Marley?

[00:22:42] I think. It's the football player, Marley. Okay. I don't know. I'm not sure. I think it was a big, big thing. I think it was Rohan, Rohan, Rohan Marley. Yeah. They didn't work out. So yeah, they didn't work out. I mean, Imagine that, but anyway. Yeah, big performance.

[00:23:07] They closed the show with that performance and I thought it was pretty cool. You know, we, I think we got a Wyclef appearance as well, which is always interesting. I mean, I think it was a big thing to have that Wyclef appearance and that performance.

[00:23:19] Aside from the rap girls, who else stood out to you as a performance? From the show. We got to talk about who stole the show minus. You know, the showcase, the big showcase. Victoria Monet. I mean, again, the mic was on. Thank you, Lord Jesus. And.

[00:23:38] I mean, I think it was Coco Jones. She did a great job of doing the, the dance moves that were on while she was dancing. She did are my mama. She did all right. All right. Well also doing a tribute to Mr. Michael Joseph Jackson. Yeah.

[00:23:52] Somehow did three wardrobe changes. And ended up wet on the floor. I don't know how it happened. But that woman is so freaking. Talented. And I just love the shot of Coco Jones. Like. Yeah. Victoria Monet was giving big Missy Elliot vibes at the very beginning of

[00:24:11] that performance. It was like, you know, she had like the bandana on and like the letter of a jacket. Like it was cool. She switched it up. They switched it up again. She's having a moment. Victoria Monet is really like yeah. She.

[00:24:23] She is the moment currently it's a fun watch and she will go and rack up a couple of awards in this night. Another performance we haven't talked about Meg came back out with Glorilla. Gloria hallelujah. Yeah. Yeah. Man. Anytime I'm gonna get mad on stage, I'm always happy,

[00:24:40] but I'm really loving Glorilla's rise to stardom as well. It's been a fun ride. Yes. It honestly is also a really good bounce back too, because like I said, last year, last year's BET awards, I really paid attention to, I really broke it down.

[00:24:53] I really was like great in them. Them performances. And I remember when I was like, I don't know if you saw during the tweets when, when the show was going on, there were people like, yeah. They're like, y'all said last year that Glorilla fell off.

[00:25:06] Now look at her. And it's so true because last year at the BET awards, she performed, I think it was lipstick. If I remember correctly. What's the name of the song? I can't remember, but she was like, or lollipop something like that. But basically.

[00:25:19] She was like on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, On the stage. And she was like, you know what? I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this.

[00:25:29] And then she was like, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do this. And she was like, I'm going to do this. But basically. She was like on this, like rocket or lipstick or lollipop or something like that.

[00:25:39] And she'd be like, extrasexual. But it was weird. Like, I remember thinking, I was like, this doesn't feel like Glorilla to me. It was just like, I was like, I don't know what this song is. I don't know what this presentation is for glow.

[00:25:50] Like this felt, it felt just forced. It was like, it all clicked. I mean, she has like three songs out right now that are just banging the one. Want to be with Meg, not even including the one to be remixed with Meg. And Cardi.

[00:26:03] She has yellow, which is. A pastoral him at this point. It's a daily affirmation. And then she just dropped. What is the actual name for it? But the it it's. It's Friday 7. PM Friday, whatever. 95 degrees. Yeah. It's 95 degrees. That's my book. So good. She just dropped that too.

[00:26:26] Like she is literally tearing it up and she looked amazing. I beat you or there was like a frat house. Like display when the Meg came out, it was so cool. I was like, yes, glow. Like she is killing it. I'm so happy for her.

[00:26:39] Me too. I love me some Glorilla. Every time I get in, it's like, I see her performing. I'm like, yeah, go, you know, just kind of, I'm like, yeah, I'm rooting her on the entire time. She can do no wrong in my eyes right about now.

[00:26:51] She's really having a moment as well. We haven't talked about the. The youngest rap girlies of them all. And Aaron's Harris. Yeah. They perform this song. Just be you. And I thought this was. This was the, it was precious. These little girls. Yeah.

[00:27:10] If that performing, it was very positive. It was uplifting. And then of course it was a bar. Just be you playing tag. Cause I'm it. Cause I'm it. Cause I'm it. I'm the moment. I'm him. I'm them. I'm they, I'm her. I'm good, bro. I'm it.

[00:27:22] I said, okay. Yeah. I love watching them. They've had the best. They have been is the best. They have had looked like she, she, her parents never told her that she was a rapper.

[00:27:34] They just put her on stage and tell her to do that little dance she'd be doing. Cause she always looks like she's. Like. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I think of her. I think of that. I think of her. I think of her. And I really love her.

[00:27:47] I love her. I love her. I love her. I love her. Yeah. It's so good. Love, love that man. But the BET Awards, I will say this, did a really good job of showcasing other genres of music this time.

[00:28:05] They normally don't branch out that much, but due to, I will say largely to the work of one Beyonce, Beyonce? Yeah, she, Jay-Z's wife. She's been- I'm not doing that. Rude. Trying to see if I can get away with it. Look, no, listen, Miss Carter.

[00:28:28] She is really, really paving the way for a lot of like, to break down barriers, I think. There have been country-western artists, black country artists for as long as country has been a country, a genre. It starts with black people, essentially.

[00:28:43] Beyonce has now broken down barriers to where, as we've talked about before on this very A lot of people are now starting to listen to country and appreciate country for the first time, a lot of black people have for sure.

[00:28:53] And BET went ahead and highlighted two artists in that same genre. First, we talked about Tanner. You brought out Tanner Adele. And that was fun because we know Buckle Bunny herself. She is like a part of the hive and country-western at the same exact time.

[00:29:10] Beyonce made Cowboy Carter for her, essentially. You can tell it spoke to her specifically. Yes. Tanner Adele did amazing. Even though she was on a different stage and she was basically in a car commercial for her performance.

[00:29:25] She hopped out of a car and performed in front of it the whole time. But I like the Buckle Bunny song. So I'm glad I got to hear that. I didn't know the second song, Cowboy Broke My Heart, I believe is what that one was.

[00:29:40] But that was so cute. That was such a vibe and all her lace and stuff like that with her dancers. I was so happy that she got that recognition, for real. Yeah. And then we also see Shaboozie. He comes out as well. Yeah.

[00:29:56] He does a bar song, also known as Tipsy. Tipsy! Yeah. And... Chappelle. Can I tell you? I'm like, you know, BET Awards are on. I'm feeding a baby. I'm on my phone. It's going on. I'm like, okay, Shaboozie. And then I'm like, hold on.

[00:30:14] I started listening to the actual words of this bar song. And it's like, I'm like, did he just country out Tipsy by J. Quan? And I was like, let me stop for a second and rewind and listen to this. It was so good!

[00:30:33] And then the man himself came out and performed Tipsy. J. Quan came out. I was like, look at this. That was great. I was like, see, and this... Black people. Yeah. Like, this is what you need to get me interested in country.

[00:30:52] J. Quan has approximately two and a half songs. And when I tell you if both of those and a half songs come on, every time I'm hitting the chicken head, it speaks to me. Okay? So I was familiar with the Shaboozie song.

[00:31:05] Never in my wildest dreams did I think they were going to pull J. Quan out of nowhere. Tipsy is just an earworm. It is one of those songs that if you was there, you know. If you know, you know.

[00:31:17] And between that and Hood Hop, it's the new and improved Hood Hop. You know, like, bro, I just... It was so cool to see J. Cole on stage. I mean, not J. Cole, J. Quan on stage.

[00:31:28] Especially because in 2024, a lot of artists are really sampling the songs that we, millennials, kind of grew up with. And now they're like flipping them and making them their own. We heard that with Meg, obviously, sampling K-Stylist and even Gwen Stefani.

[00:31:45] We see, you know, Lotto has built a career off of being able to flip other people's music and really just like killing it. And then, of course, you see, you know, Tipsy, you know, a bar song.

[00:31:57] But also kind of paying homage to everybody in the club getting tipsy. And so this was so much fun. One of the highlights of the night for me. Yeah, one of the highlights for me. I was like, wait, I got it out for you.

[00:32:10] But also can I just say like just a mini rant because like... Do your thing. I like, you know how people say, you know, you're getting older when you're like, why are they sampling my... Like, I truly don't mind when people sample. Like, I love all of those.

[00:32:27] Every single example you just said, that's sampling to me. And that's like really taking a song, mixing it up, you know, and putting your spin on it. And I love that. I hate, however, these songs where you're just basically singing the old song. The old song?

[00:32:46] But like putting new words into it. I just heard a song like two days ago where it was the Fantasia song. Oh, When I See You? Well, it was like... Was it the rap one? Yes, but it wasn't even rapping.

[00:33:05] It was like, she was like, when I see you, I hate you. I want to hurt you. But when I... To the like the... When I see you. And I was like, you aren't even... You're not even flipping it. It's the same melody.

[00:33:19] It's the same words except for like you've turned it into a hate song. It kind of sound like a response song or something. You know how people will do a song and then they'll respond to it.

[00:33:32] I was like, why are you ruining when I see you like this? Like, I think there's a difference. And I just want to say that's what I mean when I say like, I hate when people take our music and then don't even do anything new with it.

[00:33:50] Like at least do something new with it. Yeah. Rant over. Yeah, no, I think that's fair. When I see you, I look at the last time I heard somebody remake that song was Fulio. R.I.P. Fulio, by the way.

[00:34:05] But that's a story that we don't even need to get into that. But yeah, he definitely redid it and I was annoyed. You know, like I think there's a way you can do it that pays homage to the original song

[00:34:15] that also is kind of like, but makes it a bop in its own right. And I think that these examples that we've talked about tonight have done just that. But before we get into the awards, the actual awards that are given out,

[00:34:30] the performances of the night have to go to the showcase for, you know, the Lifetime Achievement Award winner this year, Usher Raymond. I mean, you're not going to find many bigger Usher fans than me. I love Usher's music.

[00:34:46] I think that, you know, he's been making music my entire life and I probably have listened to every album multiple times. And you're not going to find many other performers that are vocally and performance-wise on Usher's level as far as male performance, for sure.

[00:35:05] Like his only peer might be the same lady we were talking about earlier, Beyonce. And that is a crazy stat to have, you know. So seeing that Usher was able to get his flowers while he was still here to smell them and appreciate it.

[00:35:20] Because it's cool to see that because so many times we see people getting Lifetime Achievement Awards after they die. Or, you know, yeah, it's like let's honor the memory of them. It's like you're eulogizing them and they can't hear it. Or, you know, they can hear it.

[00:35:36] But they can't experience the love that they would experience if they were here. And so I was just so happy to see Usher get his award. There were, of course, legends giving this award to Usher. You know, Terry Lewis, Jimmy Jam, L.A. Reid.

[00:35:53] The big names came out because Usher is that good. And then we saw the performance. Now, Mari, personally, I do not like when people are given Lifetime Achievement Awards and they are told to do their own tribute. I really don't like it.

[00:36:10] That annoys the hell out of me. Sometimes I understand because sometimes you're like, who else you gonna get to do it? Because sometimes these people, you just can't match them. You know what I'm saying? If you can get them, let them.

[00:36:23] But at the same time, it's your night. You're supposed to enjoy yourself. Last year Busta Rhymes received the Lifetime Achievement Award and he participated in it. And it was great. It was a really good one. Yeah. That's why they're giving the award.

[00:36:40] They probably pick if they want to. We see that Usher's showcase is going to be Childish Gambino and the R&B slash rap girlies of today. Yeah. I saw this. I actually didn't watch the performance in real time because I was watching House of the Dragon.

[00:37:02] So I missed that in real time. But when I got on Facebook, the aunties and uncles were not happy. They were like, why? Why are all these women doing the tribute to Usher? Where was Chris Brown? Where was Chris Brown? That's what I said.

[00:37:20] First of all, Chris Brown and Usher don't even like each other. Didn't they just get in a fight last year? So yeah, I was like, don't like that. So I went and watched it. What other R&B dudes could you get? I've seen people bring up Jacquees.

[00:37:35] I almost threw up. Somebody brought up Tyrese. I said, leave him alone. He's in a padded room somewhere. He was there. Tyrese was there. He was at the performance and right there in the crowd singing along. But I don't want Tyrese doing an Usher tribute either.

[00:37:55] I really enjoyed the tribute. These people cannot sing. These people are not Usher. I liked that they picked some of these people. Childish Gambino. Yeah, let's get him out of the way first. Childish Gambino, they cut that autotune on that mic

[00:38:09] and let him do his thing a little bit. That was fun. Are you a Gambino fan? I am not. So I am a Donald Glover fan. I like his acting. I like the fact that he can make music. I like that he is funny.

[00:38:25] I like that he directs. I like him as a human. The rapper Gambino is not my guy. I like the funk Gambino that showed up with, what is it? The Redbone Gambino. You know that one. That is my Childish Gambino.

[00:38:39] The precursor to that when he was doing all his cool rapping and stuff. That's not really for me. Yeah, because of the internet. Unfortunately, I am a pretty big Childish Gambino fan. Really? We went to his concert. I went to his concert four months pregnant with J.J.

[00:39:00] He was amazing live. Amazing talent. It is so funny because everything you said, I love his music. I love his talent. I don't know if I necessarily like Donald Glover as a person. I don't know his personality.

[00:39:19] He has some things that he has said and done that aren't great. We don't love some of those aspects. I think him as a performer, you are not going to find... Amazing. He is in that same vein as a baby Jamie Foxx.

[00:39:35] He can do anything if he wanted to. He can act, sing. He can do everything. Two seasons of Atlanta. Exactly. Not my favorite rapper. Is it Awaken My Love? That album he did with Redbone. That was so good to me. We get Gambino opening up the Usher tribute.

[00:39:57] I believe he started with You Don't Have to Call. It was cool. Then Kiki Palmer showed up. It is a little shady. It is a little shady, Mark. You are thinking of Trey Songz. No, I am thinking Kiki Palmer and Usher. You remember that Palmer baby.

[00:40:15] He is a mother. Why is she acting like a mother? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Why is she at the Usher concert? Why was she dancing with Usher? Next thing you know, she is doing an Usher tribute. As she should. She is free now.

[00:40:36] She can do whatever she wants to. You are doing amazing, sweetie. Her baby daddy was somewhere seething. His homeboys were telling him how we knew it. He should see who fills out those job applications. Sorry. I am going to go. I am going to go.

[00:40:52] I am going to go. Sorry. That said, we get Kiki. For people, you know, we are talking about people who had a moment. Kiki Palmer is at the height of her powers right now. You can't even say a moment. Kiki has a lifetime.

[00:41:08] She is a lifetime achievement award. It is the way that Kiki Palmer giving a tribute to Usher makes sense. That is weird. She is an actor. She is a host. She is a singer. She is everything. Kiki was a great decision for this. Then, You Make Me Wanna.

[00:41:26] She came in on You Don't Have to Call. She did the whole dance break or whatever. Then she got You Make Me Wanna which is one of my favorite. One of my favorite songs. Yeah. Then it gets spicier. We do Good Good performed by Summer Walker

[00:41:46] which we know is a song that Usher is on with 21 Savage and Summer Walker. I really like that song. It is a good song. It is so good. It has a positive message. A little bit. Summer Walker's BBL was a little distracting. She be doing that.

[00:42:05] That is what she does. You know. Sometimes the body be bodying and sometimes it be bodying. You know. Oh, okay. That is okay. That is okay. You know. One of the biggest surprises for me after the Good Good performance is Coco Jones.

[00:42:29] I love me some Coco Jones, man. For the people who are not familiar I will be covering the new season of Bel Air when it drops with my co-host Poo-ya. He will be coming on. We have talked about several seasons. We have our own podcast dedicated to that.

[00:42:45] If you want to hear us talk about Bel Air stick around. Coco Jones is one of the stars of that show. She easily was one of the stars of this tribute. There goes my baby. She is singing it to the crowd. That was great. She was so good.

[00:43:01] Man. I know people can quibble with who they wanted in the performances but how do you get mad that Coco Jones is singing? She is so good. It was so smart to go with women. It was so smart. They put these rusty-ass male R&B artists up there

[00:43:22] trying to imitate Usher. It will just be a poor imitation. They will not come close. Doing women and putting a twist on it especially since women can hit the range that Usher can hit it was genius. Whoever thought of that really needs a raise.

[00:43:40] I am glad you brought up the range because who has the range? She has the range. She will never not have the range. She sings Confessions. We have Chloe Bailey come out and do Good Kisser. Y'all can never make me hate Chloe.

[00:43:56] Y'all can never make me hate Chloe. I love Good Kisser. I am sorry. I love Good Kisser. That actually makes sense for Chloe to do it because you know how Chloe music be. Chloe be out there. She a little freak. This was a very cute performance.

[00:44:14] She was all over them girls. I was shocked when it was Good Kisser. I have not heard that feels like a deep cut to me. Bang, bang, bang. It feels like a deep cut. I haven't heard this in years.

[00:44:30] It's not one of the things that comes top of mind. You know what would have been a deep cut? It's stuck in my head ever since. Once you hear it, you're like oh it's back. It's back. That was around the time he started making his little stripper anthems

[00:44:43] like he did I Don't Mind. You know like those songs. Girl make that money, money, money. Yeah. He's done a few. He's done a lot of little club bangers. You forget how many bangers he had. It transports me back

[00:45:01] to February when we were all trying to guess what his set for the Super Bowl was going to be. It was good times. It's crazy because it's Usher. Again, he's having a lifetime. Right. It was great. And Usher has a lot of lifetime to live. You know, prayerfully.

[00:45:21] We're going to get more from Usher soon. We get Nice and Slow performed by Tinashe. I always say that Tinashe is one of the go-to people that you need for when you have a performer like a Janet Jackson, like an Usher, you call Tinashe.

[00:45:37] I don't know how y'all feel about Tinashe music, but she going to get on that stage and cut up. Okay? She's been grinding for years. She has such a loyal fan base that really be riding for her. I'm glad she's one getting this little spotlight from the Usher

[00:45:57] tribute because she did an amazing job. But also the Nasty Girl song is now viral on TikTok and that dance is hilarious. Every time I see it. It's so good. The dance is catchy. The song is catchy. It feels like this is going to be her breakthrough.

[00:46:23] She finally having her thing. Which is crazy because she's been here. She's been outside. Some people might be mad at us saying that but I think there's going to be some good things on the horizon for her this year. If they can capitalize on this,

[00:46:44] it's going to be good. Everybody in Able. Sometimes it's not the right timing but for Tinashe, I think you're right. This feels like a moment as well. Why are you just going to hit Normani like that? You knew exactly who I was talking about too because

[00:47:02] that is a podcast for another time. Technically, it's for right now. You know she was supposed to perform at the BET Awards. I did not know that. She was announced to perform at the BET Awards. She was at dress rehearsals and everything and she got injured during rehearsals

[00:47:20] and she had to actually pull out of the BET Awards. She did a thing on Twitter and all her social medias and she really was like I couldn't do it. I felt so bad for her because her album just came out. They did such a poor ass

[00:47:40] rollout for her new album. They played in her face. Who is doing this to this girl? She cannot catch a break. It's hard to watch that you're rooting for her. We're rooting for all these people obviously but we want her to have her moment as well.

[00:47:59] Tiana Taylor comes out and steals the show. This is the recreation of the Beyonce and Usher version of Bad Girl, the performance that they did on tour. Tiana Taylor comes out as Usher and Victoria Monet comes out as Beyonce

[00:48:17] and I'm standing up clapping because what in the hell? Who came up with this? It had to be Tiana. It had to be her. It had to be. She dances. Both of them. They ate it up. No notes. It was perfect. Then we end the entire

[00:48:39] Usher tribute with Big Lotto coming out to perform. Which is probably the most curious choice for me out of all of the things. I understood why Lotto would perform an Usher tribute. I also understand why they would do Yeah. Lotto performing Usher doesn't make sense to me because

[00:49:01] she's doing the rap part. That's why I'm like interesting. It played for strength though. It did. Yeah is one of the bigger songs probably Usher's biggest song of all time. It was great. The performances were great. Usher gets up and does a speech which is heavily

[00:49:21] muted on accident by BET. The full speech is online. You can go watch it on BET.com. Everybody thought it was some conspiracy. People were saying on Twitter, he talking about Diddy. He was not. Why were they muting it though? It didn't make sense.

[00:49:40] Usher said at the beginning toward the middle of his speech, hey I'm about to start speaking from my heart and I cuss a lot. First he started off with I talk a lot but then about midway through he's like I'm about to start cussing.

[00:49:52] They had that finger on the trigger. They were muting and the mute button got stuck for the audience for watching it live. If you only watched it live you did not hear the entire Usher speech and you know it.

[00:50:08] I saw the aunties and uncles were a conspiracy theory in their way through that. What was he talking about? The entire speech is online. He talks about the hardships of black men in America. He talks about this is the

[00:50:18] year of the father and they all need to support each other. He name drops a lot of his icons in his life. He even talks about how sometimes you gotta go through some stuff to get to something. It was an inspirational speech from Usher. It was great.

[00:50:30] Usher, one day you will pay for your crimes though because confessions you wrong for that. You wrong for making a banger of an album about Cheeto and Chili. That's all I'm saying. Immortalize it. Every time she hear that song I know she'd be mad. That's Usher.

[00:50:46] We also had the awards of the award show and as Mari said earlier I think every human that have ever been on BET was nominated. It was like 17 people in each category. It truly was. I was like what is this? I thought it was supposed to be 3, 4, 5 max.

[00:51:11] They said everybody get these flowers. Which is great. You know, that's great. I was like oh it's still going. One of the categories that really stuck out to me, I was texting Mari about this y'all. BET said okay we're gonna give away a

[00:51:33] reward to the best male R&B slash pop artist. In this category they had pop singer Brent Fias Burna Boy who does not sing pop music or R&B. Chris Brown, pop R&B singer. I'll give him that. Drake, noted rapper pop rapper. Friday

[00:51:57] who I was not familiar with. He was also nominated for a lot of the international awards. He was nominated for all of them. He's Haitian American and so it made sense for him to get nominated for the international albums as well. October London got nominated and then Usher.

[00:52:20] And I was like Usher, Burna Boy, Chris Brown Brent Fias, Drake How did they all end up in the same category? Make it make sense. And who won that? Usher. So good for him. But you didn't even talk about the award, but the BET, the Her Award.

[00:52:40] I was like What does that even mean? Yeah. The BET Her Award nominees included Victoria Monet Glorilla which how did they end up in the same category together but fine. SZA who also should not be in a category with Glorilla and probably not even with Victoria Monet

[00:53:00] if you really think about it. Beyonce who is Beyonce, who is essentially her and then Flo Millie who has no business being in any award nomination they don't make the same music and you know I love Flo Millie

[00:53:16] that's my girl. I was sad that she didn't get to perform and Victoria Monet wins the Her Award I'm not quite sure how Beyonce lost the Her Award to Victoria Monet but I guess it's an honor to be nominated question mark Beyonce didn't win any of the awards

[00:53:34] I believe. She wasn't going to come I was just figuring out who was winning the award based on who was winning but then SZA won some maybe it was the female best R&B pop one yeah she won best female R&B pop artist well those nominees

[00:53:57] were Beyonce, Coco Jones, Doja Cat Her, Money Long SZA, Tyla and Victoria Monet yeah and so SZA wins which is cool I like SZA a lot of nominees in each category we got a performance from Tyla who does win yeah I didn't know the song

[00:54:21] I just want to hear Water all the time put it on repeat she wins the best international artist act award presented by Colman Domingo which is kind of cool Chops Gambino had a moment where he talked about he did a monologue and I thought it was very funny

[00:54:41] and I thought it was very smart because he says hey you guys I just find it weird that this is a black entertainment television awards and I am a black entertainer who is on television and I do music and I act and all this other stuff

[00:54:57] and I have the same amount of BET awards as Sam Smith and more Grammys than Will Smith how does that happen? I just find it weird does Sam Smith have an award or is it like zero? I believe he won for I Know I'm Not The Only One

[00:55:18] yeah that one big song from a couple years ago and I think Gambino has a point I think that there is something to be said about the black entertainment television awards obviously outside of BET umbrella but also not showing love to a lot of artists

[00:55:36] that may have been grinding in alternative spaces that are not public or mainstream in the larger black community so we know Chops Gambino rapped but he wasn't making the gangster rap that was popular while he was rapping he was making the college kid rap

[00:55:54] and so it really didn't play the same way as a lot of these other rappers, a lot of his peers but for him to not have any of the acting awards that they give at their BET awards, they haven't given that's kind of weird it is weird

[00:56:10] and it's hard because again this is where I tread very lightly when I say I don't know if I kind of like Donald Glover as a person because he has been on record by saying very anti-black things especially about black women and stuff like that so it's hard

[00:56:29] because if you'll see a lot of comments where people are like Donald Glover is only black when it's convenient for him because any other time he doesn't really like to associate with us that's what it feels like but I don't want to get into those games because

[00:56:47] I'm not about to sit here and say who's black and who's not but what it is what is absurd music choice aside what is definitely absurd and you can't even convince me otherwise is why he doesn't have television BET awards because Atlanta was an amazing piece of television

[00:57:15] that talked about the black experience in such a weird surrealistic way that there's no way he should have been passed up for that I don't know if he was a part of the Atlanta community or anything like that but Atlanta was a love letter to blackness and alternative

[00:57:37] blackness to say the least so no matter what he's done in the past I do love that he has given us that gift that is Atlanta so points were made I'm not going to say who is rooting for black people that is my hard line

[00:57:59] if we see you deviate from that that's when you start to lose me I will leave it at that however early in the show they had announced there would be a special performance from someone we just mentioned Will Smith they also said there would be a performance

[00:58:17] from the Fresh Prince at one point and in my head here's why I question it because Will Smith to me has not proven that music is one of the things he's focusing on right now I haven't heard any Will Smith singles out I didn't know

[00:58:34] I know Bad Boys just dropped so he is a very popular figure right now the movie is doing numbers it's proving to people that theater still works you can still go to the movies and make money off of it you can

[00:58:46] but when you say he's going to perform I'm like alright are we getting the West are we getting the Men in Black song are we getting Parents Just Don't Understand what are we getting in 2024 in the year of our Lord 2024 from Will Smith and I saw it

[00:59:06] and I'm still not quite sure what we got was there a gospel portion Mari it was I forgot the BST awards were on originally and I only remembered half an hour before Dragons came on and I was like oh snap and I turned to it

[00:59:28] and it was so funny because the section I saw live was VanVan and Aris I was like okay VanVan and then I saw Will Smith I was like what is happening I was like let me just turn because it was definitely a gospel section

[00:59:47] and then when I saw the song I was like TLDR I don't care is this a forgiveness song you don't need my forgiveness I never was mad at you Will we didn't need you to apologize or nothing like that to me it felt like this was him

[01:00:09] talking about his journey from the darker time he was in in the last year or so I won't speak for black folk but I will speak for most people that I know we don't care I am very happy Chris Rock did not fight back in that moment

[01:00:25] because I didn't need y'all fighting up on stage in front of all the white folks comma but Will Smith did what he needed to do and from there we move I really think we move it put him in a space where he saw a lot of his peers

[01:00:41] whether white or black that was unacceptable I don't like that we had a lot of people speaking out against Will Smith at the time who probably shouldn't have been saying nothing they should have just been minding their own business but it looked like he was telling his story

[01:00:57] in this song Kirk Franklin came out and that's when I thought oh is this the gospel portion Will Smith doing gospel music I don't I love Will Smith I love him I feel like somebody I've known my whole life he feels very familiar

[01:01:18] and again I hope for the best for that man but I don't ever have to hear that song again I'm good we big killing on that get jiggy with it if you want to get my attention get jiggy with it switch, welcome to Miami give me the hits

[01:01:36] just the two of us there are other things Will Smith could have done this was not one of them this was not one of them oh that was so funny finally we have to wrap we're talking about maybe some of the segments that worked and did not work

[01:01:54] in the BET awards Taraji was doing a great job of hosting but she did have a lot to do we know she started with the Kendrick tribute kind of with They Not Like Us she took us through the events of the year started with Cat Williams in January

[01:02:08] we saw him on Club Shea Shea Usher of course in February Risa Tisa for the TikTok story it was a lot you know how that goes talked about the April beefs between Chris Brown and Quavo and Kendrick and Drake

[01:02:24] Kelly Rowland versus that white lady on the red carpet it was a lot but we got through it but there were other moments that we didn't really stick the landing on I'm sorry but that one didn't really stick the landing for me because

[01:02:39] maybe it was because it felt like they were stealing it you're stealing this you're stealing this this is a meme it's a twitter meme yeah it's like somebody keeps a calendar but it wasn't done effectively because I hate to say I don't know if Taraji knew the reference

[01:03:01] well it's a valid argument Taraji is a woman of a certain age I believe she's about 50 years old and everybody that she's interacting with that is winning awards or being presented to with the exception of Usher is like maybe 35 max

[01:03:19] so I feel like there might be a disconnect in the audience for the people who are coming to view them Lotto's fan base probably skews a little bit younger than Taraji's fan base you know what I'm saying

[01:03:31] so I think maybe there is a bit of a generational gap you know the people were catering to her did she improv? oh she definitely improv the calendar section and the section we're about to talk about I don't know if she improv'd the calendar section

[01:03:49] they put up a slideshow so they knew she was going to talk about it but like all they it felt like all they gave her was the headline the outline yeah the Chris Brown vs Quavo she said I don't even gotta say much about that

[01:04:04] we don't even gotta talk about it enough said I don't think they gave her a funny line you know what I'm saying I just don't think she was prepared you know it could have all been last minute it could have cause again no disrespect to our people

[01:04:26] but we also gotta be realistic y'all B Simone doing a segment about black jobs Mari hilarious was the segment hilarious? no B Simone was oh yeah ok I like the idea let's talk about the black jobs they bring up TSA agent

[01:04:56] which is I don't care what nobody says then they move to TV judge and I was like I don't know that feels like a reach then it feels like B Simone got lost there was gonna be another joke in there somewhere

[01:05:10] and she end up just kind of freestyling she called DC Young Fly ugly a bunch of times and then she said I'm sorry I loved it cause I was like yes please call that mofo ugly again for me you're like get him again whack him again

[01:05:27] but also not in the script it couldn't have been someone who do hair lays your edges does your 27 piece blah blah how is that a joke? if you're going to a white stylist to get a 27 piece I'm sorry I try not to comment on black

[01:05:43] women's hair too much but do not go to a white stylist to get a 27 piece you know just don't do that support black business at that time we might have missed I feel like she pivoted the best she could then we got a moment that is cringy

[01:06:01] to say the least topic of debate which is wild very wild Taraji goes out into the crowd and she's giving people their flowers because that's one of the themes of the night with Usher getting his award in front of everybody and she stands up

[01:06:19] in the row kind of near who we know as Keith Lee who is a TikTok viral influencer for restaurant reviews he's also a mixed martial artist he's very much an influencer that everybody is getting to know in recent years it was his time to get his flowers

[01:06:39] however Taraji stood in her mark apparently Keith Lee was in the wrong spot so when she turned around to talk to Keith Lee she was not talking to Keith Lee she was talking to the man who has Method Man lookalike Jordan Howlett Jordan Howlett

[01:07:02] who has also gotten a little viral fame this year these two people do not look anything alike I think he looks more closer to Method Man probably than Keith Lee for sure so it was very apparent it's so weird because she knew the Method Man reference for Jordan

[01:07:20] but didn't know that he wasn't Keith Lee you know what I'm saying I feel like she was just in the wrong spot I feel like Jordan should have been sitting where Keith Lee was and then Keith Lee should have been sitting where Jordan was

[01:07:36] so she says Method Man lookalike but I don't think she knew who Jordan was I think she just said it because of that was the script but that doesn't make sense it wouldn't be in the script I don't know what to say about the Method Man lookalike

[01:07:52] if this is a Keith Lee flowers segment no I think she was supposed to acknowledge Jordan looks like Method Man and then move on to Keith Lee and I think she acknowledged Jordan moved on to Jordan where she should have moved on to Keith Lee

[01:08:06] so when she stepped over to talk to Jordan Keith Lee is on the other side of her so she's talking to Jordan still but Keith Lee is who she's referring to so she looks Mariah this has been contentious online to say the least to say the least

[01:08:21] and it was so cringy when I watched that I was like oh I hate second hand embarrass me I literally was like I cannot I don't even know if I even listened to the rest of the thing I just saw the point I was like oh no

[01:08:41] and then she called him cute in front of his wife I was like oh but yeah so then Keith Lee just posted a video of the rose the flower that he gave that she gave him and it was just him dropping it on the floor

[01:08:57] and I don't think there was much context or a caption or anything and so people were like don't you go at Taraji like that blah blah blah blah blah they were getting mad at him because it doesn't take much people are getting mad at him we've seen

[01:09:11] and so then he had to make a video like talking about what it meant he's like you know I didn't he says he didn't realize that the video that he did was gonna be make a bigger deal yeah and I think the only caption was like

[01:09:27] what's for you is for you or something like that so in his explanation video he just said like I just don't know I just didn't think that was for me because like he talked about how BET had moved them from one seat to another

[01:09:41] he said he just he doesn't want the fame and stuff like that he just was happy to be there so he didn't think that the segment was genuine um and like giving him his flowers and stuff and he even says he didn't blame Taraji for um not knowing

[01:09:59] who he was he blamed the production of the segment he felt like the segment was like rushed and unprepared and that he like he said he believes whatever is for him is for him and he didn't think that was for him yeah what did you think about that

[01:10:16] first video because then we gotta talk about I mean him throwing the flower down was weird like why why like what's for me is for me and he just throws a flower down the floor like you know what are you trying to say

[01:10:28] um and then I saw his you know his typical Keith Lee style video where he's talking like you know he doesn't blame Taraji blah blah by the end of the uh BET awards Taraji does apologize to both of them and say hey you know

[01:10:40] as it's closing I wanted to give y'all y'all flowers cause that was a mistake on my part so I felt like it was over uh but then I think Taraji made a pose where she was like hey I hit my mark he wasn't in the right spot

[01:10:50] it was an accident mistakes happen mmhmm yup and then it's like well that's to me that didn't really help because then I'm like you kind of then confirmed what he said because it wasn't genuine it wasn't genuine you didn't like how are you giving him

[01:11:10] his flowers if you don't know who he is like it was a bit exactly it was a bit and a bit went wrong because you didn't know who he was the production didn't do well and there was clearly a miscommunication because again he was in the wrong

[01:11:28] seat but I don't think it was his fault I highly doubt that him and Jordan was like hey let's just switch yeah that's cool but why not why not yeah so it was a miscommunication between the seating people and the people who were staging the show so

[01:11:45] like I was just like that didn't really help yeah but then I'm just like people like stop let's just this is not that serious oh it's literally not that serious it's not that serious like why are we mad at each other there's nothing

[01:12:03] to argue about because there's no reason why this should make any difference she said I'm sorry let's move on you know Keith apparently it was just a bit anyway so you didn't care about it let's not make a big deal about it you know what I'm saying

[01:12:15] so in the future maybe BET give people their flowers and actually mean it exactly and that's why I'm like not I'm not mad at either of them and I think it's fair for him to say that because BET saw like I couldn't even I could definitely

[01:12:31] imagine like BET be like oh they're at attendance let's try and capitalize off their viral fame and stuff like that and get a viral moment and they did it's just not the one that they wanted yeah but that's the BET awards

[01:12:43] for y'all you know that's what we do every time it's a spectacle it's a show but it's also it's a show you know and so we gonna get it, it was live and this is what happens on live TV when you don't have anybody

[01:12:55] to go in and edit out those weird moments you get stuff like this but you have to appreciate what we get because again there's not a lot out there for us I mean obviously there's other black award shows but you don't want to turn your

[01:13:06] back on any of them because if they start taking them away from us then what do we have I really appreciate it being able to watch this and vibe with them I appreciated BET taking time to actually highlight black businesses, Walmart's partnership with some of the

[01:13:22] black organizations that they had we saw a lot of the cast members from upcoming black television shows and movies, the Miss Pat show, Megan Good was there there were so many different spots where they chose to highlight black people like artists, creators media and all that jazz

[01:13:40] and throw it all together and what we got was the BET awards 2024 and it was so much fun Mari yeah it was funny like sometimes you just need some unseriousness in your life and we are sometimes a very unserious people because we have to laugh through our pain

[01:13:58] you know and it's just great to have a night to celebrate us even if it doesn't go perfect it ain't gonna be perfect but it happened you know what I'm saying it happened and guess what next year for the BET awards 2025 I'll be right there

[01:14:14] watching it and supporting as well because I'm rooting for everybody black who is rooting for everybody who is black mmhmm yeah and so that said Mari this was so fun but we covered mostly everything it was a great time and we gotta talk about what's

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