Beyond the Gates Week: Betrayals, Affairs & Twists!

[00:00:17] Hey, what's up fam? Welcome back again to Recap Kickback. It's me, your host Chappelle, and I'm here to take you through an interesting topic that I think the Black community specifically is going to have a good time really focusing on this one. It's soap operas. Yes, it's soap opera week here on Recap Kickback. Obviously, obviously we have a new soap opera to talk about beyond the gates. And I wanted to make sure that we all got to kind of share our experiences about soap operas. So of course, with me per usual, my co-host,

[00:00:47] who has not been recasted, Mari. Welcome back. Hi Chappelle, I'm glad to be back. So glad we're talking soap operas. Now that recasting, you just said that, now I'm scared because now I got to figure out who's gonna recast it. I got the information. No worries. Don't you look it up. I'm just now getting used to them. We got a surprise guest as well. You know, she said she was coming for a job interview. Turns out her dad is the

[00:01:17] mom of the dad and the cousin and the brother and the sister. It's Camille. It's Camille. What's up, Camille AF? Welcome back. Hey, you know what? Every time we do this, I remember that I didn't think of anything to say until you actually start talking to me. Every single time I'm like, oh, I ain't thinking nothing. So hi. Thank you so much for having me back. I really appreciate it. No problem. I'm very excited because you're still the friend that smells like weed, according to your headline. So that's always true.

[00:01:44] Yeah, yeah. But Camille, we were thinking like, Mari's like, oh yeah, we want to talk about Beyond the Gates. I was like, we can talk about soap operas. Like Mari had a whole bunch of plans for soap opera week. We've been talking about a lot of Tyler Perry. And so we were like, okay, we need to bring in a third person so we can really just share our experiences with soap operas and really get into the first week and maybe then some of Beyond the Gates. And so very happy to have you here and happy to have all you listeners here. Not that many of y'all, trust me, but we're a tight knit group, y'all.

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[00:02:43] Mari, we got a soap opera on our hands. We have Beyond the Gates. It's black and it's on daytime television. This is the first of its kind, Mari. Yeah, well, technically the second of its kind. Yeah. And from 1989 to 1991, the soap opera Generations was technically the first black soap opera. It starred Vivica Fox and our friend Debbie Morgan, our friend in our heads. Yes.

[00:03:12] Yes. But it's kind of being disputed because some people say Generations might not have been the first black soap opera. Like it did have a black family, but it also had a white family. So like they're saying that this, Beyond the Gates, this is the first predominantly black soap opera. And honestly, you know what? I'll give it to them. I agree. Like when white people show up in this, I'm like, oh, snap.

[00:03:43] And we're happy to have them, you know, they're fun. Yeah, we're happy. It's good. It's nice. It's cool. So, yeah. So I've been having a blast watching Beyond the Gates so much. I'm like telling Chappelle's like, we got to talk about it. Been talking about it with all my friends. Got got my family on it. Like I'm not even a soap opera person. I this will officially be my first soap opera. But it's something about watching a soap opera from the start.

[00:04:12] You know, because with soaps, you never know how long they're going to go. You don't know if they're going to go two years like Generations or if they're going to go 20 plus General Hospital, all my children, whatever, whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like, so kind of being in on the ground floor is kind of like fun because you like soap operas are the backbone of TV.

[00:04:34] You don't have to watch them to know what the tropes are or, you know, when someone enters stage right, you're like, oh, they're about to fuck some shit up. You know, like you it's just fun. It's fun watching. It's the same mode you get in for Tyler Perry movies. It's just like the acting might not be all that great. Storylines might be over the top. But guess what? I'm going to sit here and cackle and I'm going to yell, girl, don't you do that.

[00:05:03] And yeah. Oh, yeah. I was yelling at the screen a lot. I I remember we, you know, we talked about this months ago, you know, like coming soon beyond the gates. And so when it came, I was like, oh, OK, cool. And then Mari's like, OK, so I'll watch beyond the gates. You got to go check it out. And as I did, I was quickly like, yeah, we're back in soap opera territory. This takes me back. Camille, you have a background watching soap operas, I'm assuming. I do. So my grandmother was a stay at home mom when I was little.

[00:05:33] And so her stories was like we could not miss them stories. Yeah. Yeah. And then when I got a little older in the summertime, I remember me, my best friend. And that's how we became best friends was watching Days of Our Lives in the summer because I was only allowed to be like at her house or she could only be at mine. And so like we just got in this habit of watching Days of Our Lives every day in the summertime.

[00:05:57] So and I'd still go back to it for a good 10 years after that, like after I was even a grown adult, I'd like still check in to see how things are going, who's still characters there, all that good stuff. I did watch Generations a little bit when it first came out. So to me, it wasn't I didn't get an overall feeling of it being more of a black soap opera than it being just obviously more diverse and geared towards a younger audience.

[00:06:26] That's kind of the more I got is more so like they want to get it. They wanted to get the young kids that were watching it interested in something else. It's kind of like targeted at me that age because I was getting away from the you know what I'm saying? So it's getting something to like get interested in. But I do remember Generations. This also reminded me of shows like The O.C. And I was just going to say Beverly Hills. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Beverly Hills 90210.

[00:06:56] It reminded me of all those types of shows. Yeah. It's very comforting knowing that at a certain time every day, a story is going to come on and it's going to be, you know, it's coming. It's it's prolonged. It's constant and steady. And that's why like when I was in when I was in high school, that's what like Beverly Hills 90210 used to play on. I believe I think it was Lifetime every day, like after school. And I would I literally watch the whole like 10 year run that way.

[00:07:25] But I grew up with my auntie, with my Titi. She's only 15 years older than me. She's been she's you know, she's been one of my my caretakers because her and my mom are so close. And when I went to spend the summer, I spent literally one summer in Florida with my Titi and my grandma because I never again. But even though it was the same summer with South Park that I watched, that I watched South Park. Yeah, you got corrupted that summer.

[00:07:55] Corrupted. And then we had to I we couldn't she had to my Titi worked. So she recorded all of her stories. And I and I asked her for this. I was like, what were your stories? She said, all my children, one life to live in General Hospital Hospital, the big ABC three. She had all of the VHSs. I'm like, again, there's no way you could watch it. Like, what are you watching? And that would be she would come home and she would pop one in.

[00:08:25] And I'm I would never watch it. Never. I never. That's why I said, don't send me back there because I had no control over the TV. So it's so funny, like how soaps have really dominated the black community when this is the first soap that's like predominantly black. Oh, yeah. I have a very similar background with soaps as well.

[00:08:52] You like basically if you're ever at home alone during the day, you have to watch soap operas if you're staying with an older relative. That was just kind of the reality that I had. Right. So I remember during the summertime, I'd come to visit my grandma and I would stay with my granny or my daddy. Well, I'll stay with my dad and he would like work overnight. So I would go to my granny house every day. It was just I would just be over there. But I was the favorite. OK, I was the youngest grandchild. So I could just do what I wanted. She just let me chill. I got to kick it. But my granny, she's chill like me. My granny is very much like me.

[00:09:21] When her shows come on, when her stories come on, no games. OK, we sit down, we watch the stories. We shut up. OK, so every day, like clockwork. OK, I would hear that damn Mary J. Blige tune. You know, the damn. The damn. What is it? Not as the world turns, but the damn Younger to Restless theme song. You know, yeah. And I would hear that song and I knew that song like in the back. Like I just I can hear that song in my sleep. My grandma watched that show so much.

[00:09:49] And it got so it got so real that if my granny ever had to leave, she would send me next door to the next door neighbor's house. And I would go watch the stories with her. You know, just like, hey, yeah, because it was like, all right, I'm about to go or something would happen. She's like, OK, go to Miss Moselle's house. I'm like, all right, Miss Moselle, come on, let me in. And what we do? Sit down and watch the stories. OK, so I've seen a lot. I've seen a lot. I really wish I could say that I hadn't seen as much soap operas as I have, but I have y'all. My mom got into soap operas. My mama and my granny didn't even watch the same soap operas.

[00:10:18] So you had to get the CBS shows from my grandma. But then my mama was about the ABC Big Three. OK, you know, General Hospital, One Life to Live. All my children, you know, that was her. I remember being in the line, you know, the checkout line and the grocery store. I'm really about to age myself. And then my mom would grab the Soaps Digest so she could catch up on the week if she missed anything. She was just on the page, like, girl, what did Vicky do again? She got another split personality. Like, that would happen. So, no, I remember these vividly.

[00:10:47] I think when we got digital cable, there was a soap opera channel and it was just like, boom, all soap operas all the time. So, yeah, this took me way back watching Beyond the Gates. But you're right, Mari. Yep. There hasn't been the most, especially not positive, but the most, like, diverse cast when it comes to Black people on these soap operas. Yet they still seemingly had the Black households in a chokehold. I'm pretty sure my grandma, like, thinks Victor Newman is related to us.

[00:11:16] Like, I'm pretty sure that, like, she's decided that, like, that's an actual real life person in our family, you know? So, it's just like, I don't know. She, for me, it felt so special going back and watching Beyond the Gates because it really put me back in a time and place. I have a question, though. What is the difference between a soap opera and those other shows that you're talking about, Mari? Like, Beverly Hills 90210 or OC or even, even like Grey's Anatomy, right?

[00:11:42] It's a hospital show, but it's basically a soap opera, right? So, what's the difference? Is it just that it doesn't come on every day? That's what I was wondering, too. I was like, is it a way that they shoot it? Is it, like, just the dailiness of it all? Camille, do you know? I want to say soap is actually, like, short for something else. But it's like for, like, it is because it's like a daily, because if you think about, like,

[00:12:09] excuse me, streamers that, they have to keep streaming, like, every day to maintain that audience. And so, soap operas gave them, like, that constant daily story of something they felt they had to keep up with. Um, and so, I want to say it's, it's, it stood for, I could be making it up. My, my name says a lot. But, um. I'd seen online, uh, Camille, that, like, uh, it was like the early days of radio and TV when soap companies like Procter & Gamble would sponsor the dramas. They would sponsor them as a way to market themselves.

[00:12:39] And so, then it became, like, soap operas and it became a thing. Yeah. But you're right. It's a very specific style of show as well, Camille. Mm-hmm. So, yeah. It seems like it's a daily, and they don't spend as much on production and, and they don't, you know what I'm saying? It isn't. Whereas the other places, they'll still spend a bunch of money and they'll send them on location. You, you, the sets aren't as, as extravagant on, on soap operas.

[00:13:04] Because they have to learn those lines every single day and have to, you know, it's a new thing for them every single day. So, they have to make it as, as consistent as they possibly can with being different every day. According to a search engine. Not. Yeah. Key characteristics of a soap opera is continuous storylines. Soap operas feature ongoing narratives that span weeks, months, or even years with each

[00:13:33] episode building upon the previous ones. I'm not gonna lie, watching this first, like, week of, uh, Beyond the Gates, it really was making me think, like, oh my God, they can do so much. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was like, oh, I want to, I can't wait to just keep watching because there's so many things they can build upon, like, the stuff that they were doing in week one. Um, an open-ended format, unlike traditional series with definite seasons and storylines, soap operas are designed to, uh, continue indefinitely. Okay.

[00:14:03] Um, they are emotional and melodramatic. Soap operas are known for their heightened emotions, dramatic twists, and often melodramatic storylines, uh, focused on relationships. The central theme of soap operas is the exploration of relationships, both romantic and familial. Uh, and then finally, cliffhangers. Soap operas, soap operas often use cliffhangers at the end of episodes to keep viewers hooked and encourage them to tune in for the next installment. But, so, and that's amazing.

[00:14:33] I think that, that, that, that explains it all. But are soap operas, like, they're filmed on soundstage. They, they really have, like, a play-type feel to me. Is there a different way in how they're shot, do we know? Gotta be, right? This is not, like, a lot of times it's not, like, multi-cam, like a, like a Grey's Anatomy type thing. It's like, they're standing in a, it's almost like a bottle episode of everything, right? Like, you put, these people are in this scene, they sit here and the cameras are right next to them and you watch them. You don't get a lot of the background drama going on.

[00:15:01] You don't get a lot of, like, different things happening that are kind of off screen. It's always very focused on, you know, the cast. And I, I like that because the acting in soap operas is so over the top, right? The facial expressions are so big. It's just, it does remind you of being in a theater where you have to perform to the back of the audience. And I don't really know why that is, like, stylistically. But once you understand that that's just how this is, you stop looking at this like, hey, this acting isn't good.

[00:15:31] And you just start to, like, go in for it, you know? Like, if they're upset, they're mad. If they're sad, they're not. You know, like, it's not, there's no middle ground. It's so popular. There's no subtlety, Camille. It's just, it's all out there in front of you. No, no subtlety at all. I wanted to ask you, so as we were being introduced to the characters, did you say to yourself, okay, there's the connection to the hospital and there's the connection to the police office? Did you, as soon as it came up, you're like, okay, that's where that's going. That's where that's going.

[00:16:01] All the setups of all the things, like you said, it's interesting to see how the story is going to go along after watching this first week of it. But watching everything, just the setup of all those little things that are key soap opera things that you have to have, because you have to have a detective. You have to have a doctor. You have to have these things to make the stories work. And certain characters just live in certain settings.

[00:16:29] Like, you will never see, you'll never see she get outside of that hospital. Let's be real. Like, she gonna stay there and she gonna gossip your head off. You know, it's like, so it's very interesting. And it's, it's so fun. It's so fun, like, especially the first week, right? So you get, you get all these connections of these characters. And then like, halfway through episode five, there's another person. Hey, I just came from Paris. I'm here. I'm your best friend. Wait, what? It's me. You're made of honor.

[00:16:58] It's like, oh girl, where you been? You know? When the best friend shows up to the wedding, when Danny's best friend shows up at the wedding, it says, I'm your best friend, girl. I would never let you. I was like, you have not been here all week for this woman. And now you show up at the wedding like, it's me. Episode five. Episode five. Oh my God. You know, you're right though. They just, they introduced the character so abruptly and you just have to pick up very quickly. Like, this is who this person is related to because very quickly that person is going

[00:17:27] to have their own storyline and it's always a whip, right? It's like we have 25 people and they have to all interact in some way. You know, you might not ever get a one-on-one with this person, but this person is related to this person who is the brother of this person who works for this person. They're always going to be very intertwined in a tight-knit community. And in this community, you know, it just happens to be a predominantly black community in your area, Mari, right? Yeah, buddy.

[00:17:54] So Beyond the Gates follows a family, the Dupree family. They are a fictional, influential family in a gated community called Fairmont Crest. It really is like a kind of like a harken or like a call or a reference to PG County, like Prince George's County here in Maryland and a little bit of Montgomery County. It's like they're the richest black counties in the United States.

[00:18:23] And so we have a lot of like very affluent black people in this area, in the D.C., Maryland, Virginia area and a lot of gated communities. So I love, of course, that's probably one of the biggest reasons I started watching. I was like black people, D.C., my neighborhood. Yes. And it is very PG. Like, yes. It was like, especially in those first few episodes where it was like the people who

[00:18:51] aren't, who don't live in Fairmont Crest talking about the Fairmont Crest people. Very like, you know, rich man, poor man. So yeah, it's set in a fictional gated community in the D.C., Maryland, Virginia area. Yeah. And in this community, let's just get on with the cast so we can talk about the plot. Let's start. And I don't know why we're starting with Vernon, because he's not my favorite character, because I just it's something about Vernon.

[00:19:21] OK, it's just something about him that just it's I don't know. I think it's because the show is constantly telling us that this is a righteous man. He stood up for civil rights and all this stuff. His grandson is so is his nephew or his grandson who's so far up his ass. His grandson is so far up this man's ass like, Grandpa, I would love to be just the freedom fighter that you were in your day back in my day. It's like every episode. He's just letting us know that Vernon Dupree is that guy. Right. He's very humble.

[00:19:50] It's a generous man or whatever. But we also see that there is an edge to him because, you know, we get a couple episodes in and Vernon's almost spotless until we find out that there is a little something going on in the past. And we know in these shows, Camille, the patriarch of the family and the matriarch, they're the ones always trying to keep the past secrets of the family at bay. Always, always. They done. They had so many extramarital affairs and kids be popping out.

[00:20:20] And that's how they introduce new cousins. And it's all because of the matriarch and the patriarch of the family. Yes. Yes. And Vernon Dupree, his, believe it, it's like his grandfather or his father, whatever. They they're the ones who like founded Fairmont Crest and started Fairmont Crest. And so the Dupree family run Fairmont Crest. Everybody knows who they are. Everybody pays deference to them.

[00:20:49] They are untouchable, spotless in reputation. So that's where most of the storylines center around. Yeah. Tamara Tooney from Law & Order. I love this lady. I'm sorry. I've seen her too much on Law & Order. I feel like this is like, hey, auntie, you know, I really felt like when she popped up on the screen, like these are my people. I know her. Yeah, I know her. That's my homegirl. Like, I know her. Yeah. So when she pops up, I'm like, oh my God.

[00:21:18] I love that not only is she a character, but she's like, she is the matriarch of this family. She is one of the main characters. She's a former singer from back in the day. And now she's like, has like this whole successful family. She obviously was married to Vernon, who was a former senator. She's got these two daughters. And, you know, she's the one who's really like fiercely keeping the family together with this like, like, like icy blonde, like, like, yeah, great. Great. It's so clear.

[00:21:47] Oh, it looks so good on her. Like, yeah. Loved it. You don't want to mess with her. Like, look at that. Exactly. Look at that silver hair. Like, don't mess with her. Yeah. Camille, what did you think about her as the matriarch? So she's the one we were talking earlier and I was saying that my, my dad's side of the family is actually really light skinned like this family. And I have an aunt named Anita and that's this, this character's name. So every time they said her name, which like, and I just came from seeing them just recently.

[00:22:16] So I really, really loved her character. She, she plays that part perfectly in my opinion. Like she, she, she doesn't, she does over the top very well and very classy. And very subtle. Yeah. Yeah. Well, subtle for a soap, right? You know, she's good. She's good. You know, I just, I really wish I had seen her on more television shows than just Law & Order. Right. Because now I feel like I've been robbed. Like, I really wish I, maybe she's been on a lot of stuff and I just haven't seen her

[00:22:46] and I only know her from Law & Order. But this, she's one of the hooks that really made me stay and keep watching the show because I was really enjoying her character. On the screen, we have Dr. Nicole Dupree Richardson. And, you know, through four-ish episodes, I was like, okay, Nicole, you know, she seemed to have it all together. X, Y, Z. But by episode five, Mario, my mouth hit the floor. I'm sorry.

[00:23:12] Who, you got this, this woman and her mom infiltrating Nicole's family because this is your father and this is your real, but I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So how did we get here? I love, okay. I love, so Nicole, I'm pretty sure her last name is Richardson, I believe. Scroll down for a little. Yeah. Nicole Richardson. Yeah. Yeah. She's, she's a Dupree, but she, she married Ted Richardson, who is a doctor at the aforementioned hospital we talked about.

[00:23:41] And I love Nicole's character because she's a, she's a psychologist. She is that character. That's the rock. She's the character that like, oh, this is the character that has it all. She has all her ish together. She's the one that the family leans on and you're like, oh, look at her. She has the perfect husband. She has two perfect kids. Right. Yeah. Cause Martin is her. Yeah. Martin's her son. And I forget, I can't remember her daughter's name to save my life. Um, but she is like everything. Kat. Kat. Yes.

[00:24:11] You're right. I had to get that way, but yeah, Kat. Yeah. And, and it's like, their family is so perfect. Her office is perfect. Her, her assistants are so funny and nice. Like she has it all. And then the dramatic twist, somebody's coming or take it all from her. And you're like, yeah, like, no, you're like, don't do that. But it's like, yeah. Drama's about to happen. Camille, what did you think about? Should we talk about, like, I don't even know how.

[00:24:40] Cause this is a big plot point. Yeah. Go ahead, Camille. What'd you think? So the plot point itself, I'm like looking at my notes. Cause I don't remember. Leslie and Eva. It's Leslie and Eva. Oh yeah. Yeah. No. Okay. So I actually ruined this for myself. Um, when I, when I was on the CBS. No, when I was on the CBS website, when I was first starting to watch the show, it was on episode 18 and I didn't realize it.

[00:25:07] I clicked on it and I saw, and I'm like, why did it start like this? And I was like, wait, oh, this isn't the first episode. And so I saw the only thing I saw was them talking and they revealed that thing. And so from the moment that I saw them, I knew what, I knew what was going to happen. So I spoiled it for myself. I didn't do what my auntie did. My auntie did the exact same thing. Oh yeah. Cause the way, the way, the way, yeah. The way CBS is set up, as soon as you click on it, like it should be episode one, but it's,

[00:25:34] I mean, it's the most recent episode, but you gotta like scroll all the way down. Yeah. They don't want you to have to do that. You know, like it's a soap opera, Mari. People jump into soap operas four years in the game. Then nobody is going back. Like, listen, nobody is going back right now to watch episode one of Young and the Restless. You know, like there's no point. When I tell you, my TT called me, I was like, I can't get this thing to happen. Why would they start on episode 18? I don't want to start on episode one.

[00:26:03] I had to literally sit there and, and while I was driving, I was hands-free. Don't worry. Like walk her through how to work Paramount Plus. I was like, did you just, did you just scroll? Did you hit the down button? Did you scroll to the bottom? Yeah. Look, I know we want to get into this storyline, but we have to talk about Ted. This is Nicole's. Yeah. This is Nicole's husband, Ted. And he's a big part of this plot line as well, because as we know, these, uh, these two women

[00:26:32] are plotting to take him down. Apparently he has an illegitimate child that we are finding out who's trying to infiltrate their household. But Mari, uh, this actor here, Maurice Johnson will no longer be playing the role of Ted. Uh, yeah. Famously in soap, yeah. Famously in soap operas, you get a lot of recasting. People die. People come back as different characters, different, uh, people play these characters.

[00:26:57] And I really want to, I want you to see who is going to be the new Ted Richardson, because I got a kick out of this. Oh, the new, the new Ted Richardson will be played by, uh, hold on. That's the old Ted Richardson. Oh, let me see. Where's the new Ted Richardson? You know, now I'm like a TT, like how I get this thing to work. How I get this thing to work. But yeah, the new Ted Richardson will be played by Keith D. Robinson. Mari, does that name mean anything to you?

[00:27:27] This sounds very familiar. All right. I'm about to put them up on the screen. Keith D. Robinson is, I think, best known from his role as, uh, his role in the movie Dreamgirls. Um, you know, we all got pain. Yeah. It's her brother. It's her brother. Yeah. So he's the new, uh, he is the new, uh, Ted. Apparently I was reading the soaps online. You know, I was in the threads.

[00:27:55] I was in chat rooms and people were saying that they highly suspected that this person, uh, that, uh, there would be a recast because original Ted wasn't giving the audience what they wanted. And so now, you know, it looks like the people were ready for a recast. And now we got Keith D. Robinson as the new Ted. So, okay. So when you tease a recast, I was like, as long as they don't touch Danny, as long as they don't touch Danny. No, she can't go nowhere. No, she's a star. She can't go nowhere. No.

[00:28:25] So when you said Ted, I was like, okay. Cause he, he really hasn't been given what's supposed to be gave. You're like, I see the vision. I see the recast. I don't hate it. I don't hate it. Like he hasn't, like, it's kind of funny how like a whole really interesting story line revolves around him, but we haven't gotten a lot of him. Like the only thing we've, we've been shown of him really is, is a doting family man. And that actor looks the part.

[00:28:54] Now, Keith D. Robinson coming in here. Now I'm like. We all got pain. Now I'm kind of like, whatever they said he did, he did that shit. I don't know. He looked like he can, he can, he can do whatever they said they did. I don't know. He do. I don't know. I disagree. Every time I look at him, I just picture him like this time, you know what you've done. Like he was telling me, he's kind of cool and effing. Like, that's why I'm like, he's not kidding you. Yeah.

[00:29:24] Well, yeah, he was a little. I mean, she was, she was doing a lot. Okay. Effie was tripping. So I'm going to save hope for Keith D. Robinson as the new Ted. But yeah, that's the cliffhanger. Yeah. That's the cliffhanger we leave off on. The thing about soap operas is every episode is basically a cliffhanger. But when you get to the Friday episode, Mari, I know we just discussed this off air, but I think it's valuable conversation for our listeners. The Friday episode is the big bang. That's when everything happens.

[00:29:53] Cause they got to leave you with two days to kind of mull it over and stew about it and call your home girls on the phone and then schedule a podcast about it too. You know? Cause episode five, I was literally watching it and I was texting Gina, who, by the way, my best friend is a big soap opera fan. And we were talking about soap operas at brunch. Like I meant to get a speak pipe from her, but I forgot. But like, I was like, no, Danny did it. What is she doing? This is embarrassing.

[00:30:23] Is she not embarrassing? Like episode five, like. That was good. I don't know. We, we gotta keep, there's so many, I don't even know how we're going to get through all these storylines. Yeah. No. And it's a soap opera. It's not about to get through all the storylines. We just got to talk about the big ones. We got to talk about the big ones. Let's get to the main storyline. We got to talk about Danny. Danny had me screaming at the television.

[00:30:51] Because she is our, almost like our leading lady in this, you know, we talked about the matriarch and the patriarch of the family, but she is the center of the most drama right now. Because when we start our show, when we start the show, I'm looking for the picture. When we start the show. Yeah. So when we start the show, Danny is already in the midst of a divorce and it's a messy divorce, Mari.

[00:31:20] Could you give us the rundown while I get the picture pulled up? Thank you. Because, you know, everybody wants to see the picture. So when we enter, we're kind of fighting out through Anita and Nicole talking that like Danny, Danny is the youngest of the two Dupree women who, you know, end up getting married. And Danny gets married to Bill. What was his last name? Hamilton. Hamilton.

[00:31:47] And they're married for like 30 years almost or something like that. A long time. Yeah. But Bill, when we come in, when Danny is introduced, Danny is throwing a mug against the wall because... Classic soap opera trope. Throwing something at the wall and watching it break. That's the soap opera for you. Exactly. Absolutely. And because she learns that her ex-husband, Bill Hamilton, is getting married to the woman

[00:32:14] he cheated on her with and left her for a younger woman. And he's getting married at their country club. And their country club is the center of their gated community. And so she's angry. She's upset. This is how we're introduced to Danny. And they're like, she's the emotional one. And by golly, is she the emotional one? Yes. I wasn't ready.

[00:32:42] I don't know who this actress is, but I love her. Camille, please tell me Danny is your favorite, right? She is. She is. She is. She's everybody. The first scene, I was like, oh, this is a soap opera. Like, the muscle memory started coming back. Like, oh, I forgot that it's like this. But she, she's so amazing. She's so, oh, she has the chin quiver. She has the, you know, just the expressive eyes.

[00:33:12] She's killing it. She's very expressive. Yes. Oh, but I mean, I feel so bad for her. Like, her actual story is a little effed up. A little? It's a little effed up. Every time you want to say, okay, she's being over the top, you think about what she's really going through. And you're like, I get it, though. I kind of understand. I kind of understand. She slaps, old girl, in the first episode, I believe it is.

[00:33:40] An old girl, Haley, she deserved it. You deserve to get slapped. I said, get her again. Why did it take you this long? Get her for me. Get her for me. I looked at my notes. I said, when the mom Anita walked by, I was like, she should have flinched. That's real, man. This lady, Haley. I don't think I have a picture of Haley. If I don't, I'm trying to get to it. Because we got the Richardson family, obviously.

[00:34:10] But Haley is an interesting character. Because she is, like, as Mara said, she's the other woman, right? She was brought into the family, almost like a surrogate member of the family. And then, you know, as they say in Soulful, Faith, fuck my husband. You know, like, she did. Somehow, Bill and Haley, just magically. And from their perspective, they act like it was some whirlwind romance that happened while he was married.

[00:34:39] They're just like, I mean, what do you want from us? We just fell in love. I don't know what to tell you. Like, I just don't know why people don't support us. Her character is the most annoying character on the show, by far. Because she acts like she don't know what she did. Haley, you know, would you want this woman in your... Haley, if you was her, how would you feel about you living in this lady community, trying to be a part of the family, forcing the family, Mari, to come to the wedding? Yes. It made all the great moments. Because you wanted to be full.

[00:35:09] Yeah. Like, she... Why? Why would you agree to any of this? First off, it's like, oh, she's like, I always wanted to have my wedding in this exclusive country club. Okay, girl, sure. Whatever. But then you don't buy a house in the community. Like, it's just like, I don't understand why everybody's so mad that we're living here. Girl, why would we want you to live in this community that everybody... Danny, why would you want to live in this community? Like, why would you want to do this to yourself?

[00:35:38] And then, like you said, she's so obsessed. She's like, I want people to be at my wedding. So much so that Bill flexes his muscle and basically threatens Vernon Dupree, the patriarch, and be like, y'all need to come to the wedding. Why would you want your ex-husband's ex-family at your wedding? Why? Yeah. She shouldn't want this. I have to talk...

[00:36:04] We got to talk about Bill because Bill is a part of one of my favorite scenes of television because I love a scene that makes me mad, right? And Bill pissed me off in the best way because at some point, Danny has tried it all, right? She's trying to convince herself, I got to let this man go. I can't do this. No, I'm through. Like, it's just the way he just threw my family to the side. But you can tell. Everyone's telling her to move on. Move on. They're getting married this week. Move on.

[00:36:33] You got to move on with your life. But she wants to be mad. She wants to stew over it. She wants everybody to be mad with her. Everybody talks to her. She's like, no, I'm still mad. I need my revenge. I need my revenge. She hits her lowest point where she goes to Bill's office, corners him, and says, Bill, okay, listen. I know I said that you were the worst person in the world. And I know I slapped your new fiance and all that kind of stuff. And I've been tripping. But like, what if we just got back together anyway, huh? What about that? I said, I'm sorry.

[00:37:02] I'm yelling at the screen. I'm like, Danny, stand up. Stand up and walk. What are you doing? Bill, Bill, I'm sorry. He did what I needed him to do. He needed to shake that woman back into her senses. Lady, this is pathetic. This is sad. You look desperate. Get out. And to her face, too. But she needed to hear it, Mara. You didn't think she had lost her day when she went in there throwing herself at this man's feet? I did. I did.

[00:37:32] I was like, girl, come on. But then again, like when they met, she was very young and she was a model. She was a fashion model. He was an up and coming lawyer. And they got together and she literally gave up her whole entire life for him. You know, Taylor's oldest time. Like she stopped modeling. She stopped everything to raise their their kids. She used her connections, her dad and her family's connections to get him top clients,

[00:38:01] to build him up to be this great lawyer in this area. And then, of course, 30 years later or whatever, he drops her for a younger model. It's like, like that's the button. Like that's the button. You want all the women to be engaged and in your soap opera and mad. And like, this is what you push. And for her to to be that desperate and for him to do that whole monologue where you think

[00:38:27] where he starts off really nice and then he he calls her desperate, empathetic to her face. And you're like, it gave me the same thing, too. I was like, oh, so Bill is the big bad because like we all know soap operas have that big bad. And so I'm like, oh, is Bill Bill the big bad? Like he he's shown flashes of being the big bad, but I kind of want him to be even better. But maybe I'm just it's just the first thing. So I need to be calm. What about you?

[00:38:55] How do you feel about Bill overall as our as our main villain? I can't stand him. But reason being is because when my parents got divorced, my mom was kind of blindsided. So that's why I kept relating to Danny, because I was like, I mean, I get it, especially when you don't really see it coming. Like, I get it every time. So it kept bringing me back to that situation. Like, oh, why is he?

[00:39:21] But the thing I couldn't understand why this man had the audacity to want to have the wedding and want to have the family there and Haley wanting to make friends with everybody. And what and when when she brought them cookies over to the old girl's house, I almost fell out. I said, no, she didn't come. Because how dare you? Yeah. How dare you come to my home?

[00:39:48] When I tell you, I'll flip all this over right now. What are you talking about? I'm going to beat everybody's ass up. Are you crazy? Like, that's just, bro, I was dying. I said, why did she go over there like this? Why is she, to me, Haley just feels so delusional. It's like she's wrapped up in this love story with Bill so much that she just doesn't understand how people don't support it. She's like, Bill and Danny, from her point of view, they weren't even really just kicking it like that in their marriage. It was on the way out. Danny's in denial.

[00:40:18] She needs to give that up. But also, like, look at us. We're so happy. I'm living my dream. I finally have a family. I finally have a man that I love. And she's taken care of. Like, these people are filthy rich, you know? And so she's like, I did it. I just want my fairy tale wedding like everybody else. I'm like, most fairy tales don't start off with you stealing your family's husband, you know? And that's another thing, too.

[00:40:43] She is, like, from what everybody says, she was not from a wealthy family. She was poor. She was, like, not taken care of. Like, she became friends with Bill's oldest daughter, Naomi. And that's how she wiggled her way into the house. We talked about it. Like, she was the oldest sister's best friend. And they took her under their wing. They made her an honorary family member because, from all intents and purposes, she had nothing else. Nobody did. And then she does this.

[00:41:12] And then you expect them to be happy. She's like, one day we'll have to get, you know, we'll have to get over it and be friends eventually. Girl, no! Get out of my way! Actually, no, you never have to do that. We actually never will. So, I'm sorry, but get the hell out of her. Yeah. And she's so earnest about it, too. Like, she legitimately is coming to these people like, hey, I know I ruined your sister's life, but, like, no! No!

[00:41:40] It's not like, you can't just, like, side note that thing. And so, she does end up saying that she wants, you know, she was like, oh, my God, I'm getting married. But it's kind of embarrassing that nobody is going to come to my wedding, right? Like, I'm getting married in a community that does not want me here. And I don't have a lot of friends and family. And all the people who are going to be at this wedding are basically Bill's employees. And so, it's bad enough that she stole this man, but now it's also going to look like she stole this man because nobody's going to be there to support her.

[00:42:09] So, she tells Bill, I need, you know, like, it would be nice if I had people come. So, Bill says, okay, I'll just go ask my family, the family that I basically ditched for this woman to come to my wedding. Camille, they don't hit each other enough on this show. They don't. They don't. They don't. They don't.

[00:42:34] I was thinking about it and I was like, had my dad come to a member of my family and say, look, I want you to come to my new wife's wedding. Yo, that man wouldn't be alive right now. The audacity of it. The audacity. We all needed time to get over that shit. You know what I mean?

[00:42:59] I was, I really, while that was happening, I was like, if my, if, if I had to, if they made me, what? But the fact that I wore black, I loved it. I loved it. I love the pettiness that they got forced into being. I love that part. But yeah, I was just like, that. Oh. No, if you're, if you're listening to this and wondering, okay, they wait, they went to this man's wedding and they all wore black. Yeah, they did.

[00:43:28] They went to the wedding, basically acted like it was a funeral. And when here comes the bride starts and she walks down the aisle, you know how you stand for the bride? They didn't. So half the crowd is standing and half the crowd is sitting down dressed like it's a funeral. And you would, you would have to ask why would these people even be that petty to go? What would make them actually go and attend this? Well, look no further than the grandson. He is like, we mentioned him earlier, Martin Richardson.

[00:43:56] And he is always talking about how, how great his granddad Vernon is. He likes, he's into politics like him, but he's kind of like doing the whole, like his dad was, his granddad was into like almost like peaceful demonstration, you know, very Martin versus Malcolm type situation. He's like, how did y'all stand for this? He's, he's one of those, like, I am not my ancestors, you know, kind of, kind of black. And well, that's what he's asking his granddad, at least, you know, he's kind of like, how are y'all, how are y'all able to do peace? You know, when I just want to tear everything apart.

[00:44:26] So I don't know where this comes from. But when Bill goes to Vernon and basically says like, hey, I need y'all to be at the wedding. Vernon, of course, is flabbergasted. He does not understand why you would even come to this with him. And then Bill alludes to something that happened with his grandson. So Mari, what exactly is Martin being accused? Did he kill someone? I don't know.

[00:44:50] But as soon as Bill said it, I was like, oh, so Martin pulled a Ted Kennedy. Which Kennedy? One of the Kennedys. One of them. I was like, he pulled a something. He did. He, he, he, he killed somebody. And, and, and I clocked, I clocked, I clocked that he was gay. Like, I was like, he gonna be gay. Because you saw how he was sitting? This is a good split.

[00:45:15] No, just because of how, you could, like, the writing, like, the way the writing was. I was like, I just know it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, not the acting, not anything like homophobic like that. It was just like, I knew where that writing was going. Because they, they introduced all the spouses. They introduced everybody. But they, but his spouse, like, it was a whole walk-in. It was like, hey, honey. And it was like, big reveal. He's married to a white man. That's what I was mostly shocked about, I guess. But then I wasn't shocked.

[00:45:44] I was like, shocked but not shocked. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like the, the, the dear white people trope. It's like the, the freedom fighters be the ones with the white spouse. Like, it's kind of gave that same ending as well. Exactly. But the thing is, Camille, in episode five at the wedding, we see, uh, we see this character and he walks up on his spouse and his spouse is on the phone saying something like, yeah, it just feels good to be loved and wanted. Like, it feels good to be wanted. And he goes, hey, what's that call about? He's like, oh, nothing.

[00:46:13] You don't, do I have anything to be jealous about? Nope. Nothing to be worried about. Immediately. I'm thinking, I know this ain't the Friday episode. It was. So now I got to wait all weekend to find out. What's going on? Do you, do you, Camille, you got to episode seven. Does it seem like his spouse might be, uh, sneaking around? Cause the phone calls seem very obviously like he is. I'm going to assume it's probably something about their kids. Cause for some reason they brought up, um, the son going through something.

[00:46:42] So I'm just, I'm just, I assumed it was going to be something that links to that. Um, I didn't like this character that much until, um, they got him to, to just agree with what's her face with, uh, Danny. Remember they were like, she, she needs some support. She needs somebody that's going to like, uh, back her up and agree with her. He's like, I'm on it. And from that point forward, that's when I started to like his character. Cause I was like, he'll say anything.

[00:47:10] He'll agree with anything. He'll, he'll see, he'll play whoever you need him to be. You just gotta ask. And I'm like, okay. Yeah. The politician. Go ahead. Yeah. No, no. Cause he's, he's a U S he's, he's a U S representative. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, and it seems like he's like, like a house representative, not like a state one, which I thought is kind of interesting that they started him there, but you know,

[00:47:39] in a few years, what if we see president Martin? But, um, right. I thought, I thought that his character was a little flat until they introduced Smitty, his spouse and Smitty, his spouse. I don't trust him now. I still trust him. I don't trust him. It's not because he's a white man, but nobody said, I don't know. Nobody, nobody. But I'm just saying, I didn't, I don't trust it.

[00:48:07] And they have, they have two adopted, adopted kids that are like 16, a boy and a girl. Have we seen them? Not yet. No. No. They come later though. Like I said, I've been in the message boards. We do have a casting announcement about them though. So we, they have been casted. So we know who's going to be playing them, but, uh, um, but they have not yet made their on-screen appearance, but it's coming. It's coming. Um, so the thing with Bill is that Bill says, Hey, your grandson, he did a thing and I covered

[00:48:36] it up for you. I use my influence as a, as the law basically and they go away. And so because of that, Vernon, you're kind of in my back pocket. I need you to do what I want you to do and have your family show up to the funeral. Now, of course they do show up. No way. I'm sorry, whichever, whichever, depending on where you sit in a funeral or a wedding. Um, they are very dramatic. They are there. And while they're there, Vernon tells him, yeah, this is it. We're not doing any more favors for you.

[00:49:05] And then Bill just reminds him again, why they did this favor. He says, Oh yeah. You don't think it was a little overkill the way y'all are acting? And it's like, so who's he killed? You killed somebody, right? So you killed somebody. So it seems like, yeah, this Bill is our big bad because this very rich, affluent family that should be, should be able to move on with their lives. Cannot because Bill has ruined their lives.

[00:49:29] And also kind of has them under his thumb as long as this news about the grandson doesn't come out. And so, yeah, this is, this is typical soap opera mess, right? It'd be too easy for Danny to just walk away from this relationship. She has to be attached to it by just her loyalty to the family, you know, not wanting the grandson to get, you know, thrown under the bus and for the family, uh, you know, in trouble.

[00:49:57] Um, and the matriarch of the family, she's the one who's, she's very like cookie lions, you know, like I said, we all come into the, to the, to the wedding. We all come into the wedding, you know, like she's going to keep everybody in line. So yeah, that's like our main drama throughout. We do get the big cliffhanger because we're watching Danny kind of deal with her seven stages of grief or whatever, but it's not really grief. It's more like, Hey, I I'm out of here. I'm distraught. I don't believe it.

[00:50:24] And then it's like, okay, well I need to let this go, but she never really lets it go. She's always plied, always scheming. And after he turns it down, her advances, she goes to the closet, Camille, and she gets the little box. And I think anybody who's ever seen a soap opera knew exactly where this was going. It's a gun inside the box. Yep. Yep. Perfect setup. Perfect setup.

[00:50:54] Um, you know, does anybody, uh, have anything to say? What is it? What's the term at what? Does anybody object? She's like,

[00:51:19] That was, I was like, girl, embarrassing. Like what? You have to kill everybody. Because if you don't kill everybody, someone is going to tell the story. And you have to live with the fact that you tried to murder this man and this woman behind this marriage. Like lady. Oh, so embarrassing.

[00:51:49] Um, I did not watch the, after the clip, like I said, that's the weekend episode. When we come back, Mara, you've seen episode six, Camille, you've seen episode six and seven as well. Did we cut your body? Is someone dead? Nobody's dead. But except for, I would have been, I would, my soul would have left my body. That was so, it was just so embarrassing. Like she pulls a gun on them. And like, if you're not going to shoot, then why do you have this gun out here?

[00:52:16] Because she's like waving this gun around, telling them to do things. They're like, we're not doing that. Wait, what? They just like ignored her? So she told, she was like, everybody's like, Danny, stop. Like, why are you pulling a gun out? She's like, because I want to ruin their day. They made my life miserable. And they're like, what are you going to do? She's like, I want them to bow, bow in front of me. Just like, we're not doing that.

[00:52:46] Lady, just kill me because I'm not about to do that. What pissed me off even more is Naomi, Danny's oldest daughter. Her husband is a cop. Yes, that part. I was just like, what is he? He should do something. He's a detective. The most he did, he was like, Danny, we need to get these people out of here. She's like, they can go. I don't care.

[00:53:15] It's just, I just got smoke for them. And so he does get everybody out. And then he comes back in and he's like, I gotta, I gotta take that away. And everybody's like, no, she just needs to be heard. Just let her go. And she proceeds to wave a gun at them while she monologues about how they made her life miserable. And I'm like, this is so embarrassing. Because now you have to leave and go home. Like, nothing happens. Like, all right, well, I'm finna go home. You know?

[00:53:46] And then, and then it was that typical, like, they fight over the gun and the gun gets discharged. And you're like, oh, who's gonna die? Nobody. It was a flower arrangement that got shot. So. That's one thing that this soap opera was missing for me was commercials. Because normally you got that whole damn commercial break. You're like, yeah, there was no, it wasn't real commercial break. Actually, that's not missing for me. I'm glad I don't have commercial breaks. I guess when I get caught up, I will. But whatever. Yeah.

[00:54:19] So that's the big plot. That is the big overarching story of Beyond the Gates. But of course, it wouldn't be a soap opera if we didn't have little mini bosses inside. Little mini tales as well. There's a nurse at the hospital who is being, you know, pursued by one of the members of the family. And they end up in an elevator that gets stuck with a pregnant woman. Camille, I feel like we've seen this on soap operas before. This has to be a recurring storyline. Has to.

[00:54:47] That's what the hospital's for. You have to do crazy shit in the elevator. Exactly. And there has to be a pregnant woman. That woman was not pregnant when they walked in. Like, they walked in and they're just looking at her from neck up. And then all of a sudden, the elevator, like, freezes. And then I cut to her and she's like, I'm pregnant. I was like, I'm pregnant. I was like, they got me. They got me. Yeah. And then she's just like, it's coming right now.

[00:55:19] The elevator scared her through her pregnancy. Okay. Scanned her baby out. um maury what's another storyline that stands out to you from this first this is the first five days y'all we're talking about days this show lasts a month and that is 30 days of television y'all that is basically 20 days of television 20 episodes we're in five at this point we're in five

[00:55:44] so um what we kind of touched on uh earlier ted richardson who is being recasted with the guy um there was a lingering he was in the hospital there's a lingering look from this this older woman and her daughter and i was immediately like oh that's the father but anyways so

[00:56:07] her name is leslie and she's like about nicole richardson's age the uh the psychologist ted's wife's age and her daughter eva and uh when we meet leslie and eva they're just kind of like she's like they're they're new to town ish and like at first you kind of don't know what's up right but

[00:56:31] then nicole's uh executive assistant her her assistant lauren i believe gets run off the road by a motorcyclist uh where she crashes and she now

[00:56:55] so so lauren gets hurt she's in the hospital and she can't do her her duties for nicole and so leslie yes um so it's revealed leslie comes in from where to her house she takes it takes off the motorcycle helmet and it's leslie and you're like oh snap leslie hurt nicole's uh assistant okay what's

[00:57:17] that for and uh leslie and eva make friends with nicole's other assistant and they get eva into the the assistant the executive assistant position temporarily and uh once once eva gets the job eva and leslie are talking and he was like i did it mama i got the job even though she told nicole that

[00:57:43] they were they weren't related and leslie's like good you deserve all of this you are gonna worm your way in there ted richardson will can never um deny you again it's a whole secret baby angle and you're like yes but leslie is crazy leslie the mom yes great her name was dana okay dana slash leslie uh it's not a soap opera if you don't have somebody going by two names

[00:58:10] i love it and and she's like she's hyping her up and you just know it like you just know like everything she's saying is a lie she's like baby ted richard he never wanted you he turned her back on you from the moment you were born and and now we're gonna get our revenge and she's like i know mama like you just you didn't deserve to be treated that way we're gonna take everything from them we're gonna make them pay for abandoning us and i'm like girl i feel like he don't know about you

[00:58:38] don't know you exist that's all you are not his child like oh my god it's so good and and so and we got to figure out like the ted and and uh leslie's uh timeline because we find out that like ted and nicole had met at a conference again 30 30 some odd years ago and they've been together ever since

[00:59:02] and eva falls somewhere around in that time period clear clearly so we have to figure out like did ted cheat you know what's going on so i think uh i love that storyline that's like probably my favorite storyline right now because i'm like she falls in between the two daughters does she yeah because she's mean the two she feels very young 100 yeah but she no i agree

[00:59:28] yeah she's because i remember her being like closer to the younger daughter's age right right right right yeah yeah that makes sense i'm not sure how she is i got a conspiracy you don't know about that though i remember when they they're interviewing them because they're like a power couple and she's like tell us about how y'all met they're like oh we were at the conference do you remember who introduced us no i don't remember who introduced us i was like i bet i know i bet it was her i bet it was dana i bet it was leslie i bet she's somehow involved

[00:59:56] and then she's like you stole my man you know i feel like there's something in there because neither one of them remembered who it was they just kind of like brushed it off like yeah i don't remember but you know it was just a fairy tale like i loved him for a moment i saw him and i just i was like hmm hmm all right what happened at that conference we need more information about you know how this started but yeah that's a week of beyond the gates honestly honestly

[01:00:24] this is just ridiculous like we might just need to keep these conversations going every week just so we could just like exhale maybe we can keep it back just become the official beyond the gates podcast i don't know but let us know if y'all like it yeah yeah go watch it honestly i was kind of thinking that while we were here i was like am i gonna have to podcast about beyond the gates every week we have to do a beyond the gates check-in like at the end of every episode like okay and here's our beyond the gates corner you know in case you were wondering leslie got a twin you know something

[01:00:54] like that um so this was great this was so much fun and hold on before you cut it off i have i have one thing i have one leftover thing what was that okay so actually two things so back in the day like in the 80s if you if you watched a lot of movies or whatever most of the time there was the one black character and or especially on tv or whatever and they would they would pop in real fast and say

[01:01:20] something funny and then come back out so when the the chick the uh real estate agent she just kind of pops in yeah wait wait and then the role-playing thing lady yeah what was that i what was that i didn't understand that let's say agent is at a restaurant and she's sitting this man this up this man this gentleman walks up he sits in front of her right so that we have a pair of white people in the room

[01:01:49] it's crazy it's only happened like twice so they she he sits in front of her and he grabs her thigh and she's like wearing dark sunglasses and right as he's like starting to say something to her danny walks up and danny's like okay girl i'm back uh who is this man and she's like um nobody he's just uh just uh i don't know we this is a friend okay no she's like it's a fan like okay well he can

[01:02:14] go and i'm thinking okay that was weird well then in at the wedding we meet her black husband i was like oh yep there you go there it is so yeah the real estate lady's great the real the real estate lady that's a real one she was telling people that house and the whole time she was lecturing them like wow you really gonna buy a house in these people neighborhood actually ruin their life wow that's crazy crazy and then she went she went directly over there she's like now look i couldn't tell you this

[01:02:41] when i was selling the house because that's not how it worked but like now that it's sold they moved down if you didn't hear this from me and it's just left i gotta go i gotta go get this money but uh you just i just need y'all to know so yeah that's a week it makes me cackle because it's rare that you see a white person in that role of just i'm a pop in

[01:03:05] i'm gonna say some shit i'm the home girl yeah she came through quick okay um but yes so that's pretty much i mean i'm sure there's so much more that to talk about in them five episodes we haven't even talked about they damn kids we didn't talk about the semi-incest angle yeah we ain't talked about none of that and we're not going to because you gotta go check out beyond the gates you gotta go watch it we will be talking about this for three days and i'm telling you it was five episodes of

[01:03:34] television and not even a complete hour of tv it's like 42 minutes of tv and so yeah so check it out and then let us know here in the youtube comments if you watched beyond the gates if you liked beyond the gates what are your storylines your favorite characters did you find it absurd did you feel bad for danny because i definitely felt bad for her uh and then uh you know maybe keep us updated let us know what you think about beyond the gates email us at recap kickback at gmail.com and let us know what you think and then make sure you go and subscribe to the podcast if you haven't

[01:04:04] already recap kickback.com slash subscribe and give us a five-star review and be like hey we want more beyond the gates talk maybe we just check in every month or something like that who knows but until then camille thank you so much for joining us and coming back to talk about soap operas no thank you so much for asking me this was so much fun and i would be so mad if i did watch that and i didn't get to have this conversation with people because i would have so much to say and nobody to

[01:04:32] say it to so thank you so much for having me if you do want to do this more regularly i'm down just back from the top corner yeah but uh yeah no it's just thanks for giving me call let me know i appreciate it thank you for being here and you have some big plans on your uh youtube channel that you've been working on me and you are always in like hey what do you think about this what do you think about this and then per usual we just be like okay we'll come back to it and then we don't

[01:05:01] really go well we got plans okay camille tell everybody what you're working on and where they can find you i'll tell you where you can find me uh right now the confused playlist there's two channels but right now the one i'm focusing on is the confused playlist because my other one everything keeps getting blocked on that stupid channel so um yeah just talk about music or whatever's on my mind

[01:05:23] at the time um i'm still figuring my life out so yeah we'll do that felt that and uh maria this was fun yes it's so fun i i always love coming on here every week talking to you chapelle oh we gotta figure out what we're gonna talk about next week um beyond the gate i'm doing it every week

[01:05:47] um yeah i mean not to not to go back to our old standby tp but tyler perry got a movie on netflix and uh i've been hearing some buzz about it you know you might have to check it out there's also another movie i have a movie coming out i think on netflix too um there's some stuff so we'll see we'll talk about it we'll see you guys next week to to over on the recap kickback we talk about wherever

[01:06:13] we want over here but other than that hopefully you you watched me and matt scott over on the wrestling kickback this weekend we had uh mo and od from the black and snirty podcast as we just caught up with wwe for a little bit well basically we talked about bet uh bet put out a list of the 15 greatest black wrestlers and it it shook everybody up a little bit like why is bet commenting on black wrestlers so

[01:06:38] we talked about that while we also did a black wrestler bracket over there so it was a lot of fun um i mean if you know us you know who won so but go and check it out over on the recap kickback youtube channel um also me and sarah karen uh true crime tuesdays over on crime scene pod you can go to

[01:07:01] crime scene pod.com that's crime s-e-e-n pod.com we just talked to nicole horn aka tic-tac nicole about yeah about a devil in the family the ruby frankie story the um three-part docuseries on hulu about the uh that mormon mom who who did uh who had a family vlog who ended up like torturing her kids

[01:07:27] the docuseries was really good and the conversation was even better so definitely go subscribe to crime scene uh wherever you get your podcasts uh that was fun time over on married at first sight it finally it's over season 18 is over me jason and asia i have fire we covered it it's done it's over it's it was fun i'm so glad that uh asian and jason had me on for the season and um thank you for your

[01:07:56] feedback over there you can find that over on the first sight pod.com first sight pod.com or over on the rob has a podcast youtube page so uh that's it from me right oh at maritalks too much on blue sky yeah that's it and then um since you're on recap kickback you already know this but we got abbott elementary coverage with me and gia we got a brand still coming your way with me and isaiah and gia and then uh i'm only promoting recap kickback stuff on recap kickback from now on so we're just

[01:08:23] gonna talk about stuff we got coming your way so much so much coming and so you gotta tune in and you gotta make sure you subscribe recap kickback.com slash subscribe or go to our lovely youtube page youtube.com slash at recap kickback and hit that thumbs up and subscribe over there as well but that's it y'all for camille for mario and for myself you ain't gotta go home but you gotta get the hell up out of here we will see you all next week peace my god damn self