Challengers Movie Review

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[00:00:33] is gone, Chappelle will run rampant and do whatever he wants to do because, you know,

[00:00:38] the cops is going, y'all.

[00:00:39] So with me this week in place of Mari, someone who you know well by now, and if you don't

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[00:00:48] It's Latonya Starks.

[00:00:49] Latonya, what's up?

[00:00:51] Hey everybody.

[00:00:52] I will never refer to Mari as the cops.

[00:00:55] I just want that on record.

[00:00:58] I want records saying that she ain't here and she can't whoop me right now so I'm going

[00:01:03] to talk my noise while she gone, y'all.

[00:01:05] Uh huh.

[00:01:06] Well good luck with that.

[00:01:07] Latonya, how's things been?

[00:01:09] It's been a really big week for Applebee's, you know?

[00:01:15] Yeah, yeah.

[00:01:17] Too much Applebee's for one time for me.

[00:01:20] I'm not a fan, but these television shows, Survivor and now this movie as well.

[00:01:27] Good press for Applebee's or just press?

[00:01:29] Is this good for them?

[00:01:32] It has to be net good because honestly who was talking about Applebee's?

[00:01:38] I will talk about Applebee's for money since everyone else is getting in on it.

[00:01:44] But I feel like Applebee's is not like the hot topic of conversation.

[00:01:49] You know what I mean?

[00:01:50] Yeah, it's normally not at the front of conversations.

[00:01:53] You know, I could pick a billion other restaurants I'd rather talk about.

[00:01:57] But like you said, this week Applebee's is the star because Applebee's comes up

[00:02:01] in an episode of Survivor but also in this movie because today that is right we

[00:02:06] are talking about the new Zendaya movie, Challengers, where there is a scene in Applebee's

[00:02:13] but enough to put Applebee's at the front of conversations for a lot of people.

[00:02:18] But that is probably the least interesting thing about this incredible movie that we

[00:02:23] just watched.

[00:02:24] And so I'm very happy to have you here to talk about it.

[00:02:26] I know you're an expert on this film having that you've already talked about it before

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[00:03:00] So Latonya, like I said as an expert on this, you've podcasted about this not once

[00:03:05] already but this will be your second time talking about it.

[00:03:09] Yeah, I don't know what I could bring to the table that you didn't already handle

[00:03:12] in the first one.

[00:03:13] I feel like there's a lot that could be brought to the table because I feel like

[00:03:18] this is a movie that rewards a rewatch for sure.

[00:03:23] But you go into it, I mean, first of all, I feel like I've personally been

[00:03:28] waiting for this movie for years now.

[00:03:32] They there was a commercial out before all the stuff happened with SAG-AFTRA

[00:03:40] and the strike and then the strike happened and they were like, well, we're

[00:03:43] not going to be getting that movie for a very long time.

[00:03:46] And everyone was like, what?

[00:03:47] No, not our not our like bisexual threesome tennis movie.

[00:03:54] Like we were all that.

[00:03:56] So I feel like now the entire Internet is just really getting in on

[00:04:00] the Tashi Duncan of it all.

[00:04:04] By the way, the lead character of this movie's name is Tashi Duncan.

[00:04:08] They said this lady is a freak.

[00:04:15] OK, yeah, look, not to bury the lead, but the movie challenges had been

[00:04:19] talked about a lot, as Latonya said.

[00:04:21] We've seen previews and it's a spicy conversation because in most of the

[00:04:25] previews or the advertisements for the movie, you see Zendaya and these two

[00:04:29] handsome men and she's right in the middle of what we can only imagine is

[00:04:33] some scandalous activity.

[00:04:35] Right.

[00:04:35] And we're like, ooh, bring us that.

[00:04:37] She's kissing them.

[00:04:38] They kiss in each other.

[00:04:39] They kiss and her.

[00:04:40] Oh, when is that coming?

[00:04:41] And so we waited and we waited and we waited and then all of a

[00:04:44] sudden it was just out and I was like, oh, wait, it's back.

[00:04:46] Uh, so it happened.

[00:04:49] We've watched it.

[00:04:49] And so if you haven't seen it already, this is a full spoiler podcast.

[00:04:54] And so we're going to talk about all the aspects of the movie.

[00:04:56] If you have seen it, then strap in because we're going to talk about it

[00:04:59] all and hopefully you hear something you like or if you think we missed

[00:05:02] something or some let us know.

[00:05:04] Go to recap, kickback dot com.

[00:05:06] Go to recap, kickback at gmail.com and email us and let us know, Hey, this

[00:05:10] is some stuff I thought was cool in the movie.

[00:05:12] Leave it in the comments or something like that.

[00:05:14] And we'll sure we'll be sure to bring it up next time we talk because

[00:05:17] um, yeah, I will tell you, I have some probably some hot takes

[00:05:21] about this movie already.

[00:05:22] I, this is why I wanted to do this podcast.

[00:05:26] Cause I feel like this is going to be my personality for a while.

[00:05:30] Whereas, you know, you like, you move in and out of pop culture.

[00:05:33] Um, uh, like the pop culture melee.

[00:05:36] So I'm kind of am here for the Chappelle takes and then I will, um,

[00:05:42] represent all of the people who, uh, are just obsessed at this point with

[00:05:49] this movie and learning as much about it as you possibly can until the

[00:05:53] next thing comes around that Zendaya produces.

[00:05:56] Yeah.

[00:05:57] Oh, so this was produced by Zendaya as well.

[00:05:59] Yeah.

[00:06:00] So, um, one of the big things about this movie is that this was a script

[00:06:07] that landed on the blacklist, which is a list of unproduced Hollywood scripts.

[00:06:12] And that happened in like December of 2021.

[00:06:15] Um, in February, 2022, uh, the, it was announced that MGM got the

[00:06:21] film and Luca Guadagnino was going to be directing it.

[00:06:25] And he's known for all of the bisexual fantasy movies, like

[00:06:31] gay and bisexual fantasy movies.

[00:06:33] Basically.

[00:06:34] Um, for him, for Luca Guadagnino.

[00:06:38] Sure.

[00:06:39] Yeah.

[00:06:39] No, I mean, like, is there a lot?

[00:06:41] Is there like, cause I've only heard about this, this, this film, you

[00:06:44] know, I got to know, like, are we, are we missing some other big names?

[00:06:47] I feel like, uh, he also did, um, uh, call me by your name.

[00:06:55] Um, he did bones and all.

[00:06:58] Which was a movie about like Hannibal lovers starring Timothy Chalamet.

[00:07:04] Um, he's worked like twice with Timothy Chalamet.

[00:07:08] Timothy Chalamet was also like the co-lead in call me by your name,

[00:07:11] which was a very like, um, awakening of like, uh, gay love movie.

[00:07:19] So Lil Nas X long.

[00:07:22] Exactly.

[00:07:22] That's all I keep hearing.

[00:07:23] Yeah, exactly.

[00:07:25] Um, yeah.

[00:07:26] So Luca Guadagnino is kind of known for these types of movies, but the

[00:07:30] thing about this is that, um, Zendaya, this is the first movie where

[00:07:35] she actually is serving as a producer.

[00:07:37] So she got to, um, choose who her co-stars were going to be.

[00:07:43] And she chose, uh, Josh O'Connor to play, uh, Patrick Spig and

[00:07:49] Mike Feist to play Art Donaldson.

[00:07:52] Um, so those of you who, uh, are familiar with those names are familiar

[00:07:58] with them for different reasons.

[00:08:00] So the first day is, uh, Josh O'Connor, who everyone knows as, um,

[00:08:05] like young Prince Charles of the crown.

[00:08:08] That's like, Oh, everyone came to know who he was.

[00:08:11] And then Mike Feist, who I honestly did not know before this movie.

[00:08:16] Um, because I did not watch Steven Spielberg's, uh, West Side Story.

[00:08:21] Gotcha.

[00:08:23] Uh, but he was Griff in West Side Story.

[00:08:26] He was also apparently in, um, there was a, there's he, he's a musical

[00:08:31] theater, uh, just really well known for being great at musical theater,

[00:08:37] which is a, another of like the random pools that I like to swim in as well.

[00:08:41] So I realized that he was a dancer and a singer, um, in addition to

[00:08:47] being a really good actor, according to this movie.

[00:08:50] Yep.

[00:08:50] Never seen these men before in my life.

[00:08:52] I was like, Oh, okay.

[00:08:53] These Zenea finding these relative unknowns and putting them on, on, on.

[00:08:57] I mean, and then I go and look at this man's Wikipedia and I'm like,

[00:09:00] Oh, Tony award, uh, nominee.

[00:09:02] Yeah.

[00:09:02] That kind of thing.

[00:09:03] Newsies.

[00:09:03] Oh wow.

[00:09:04] This, this does everybody else know that he's been acting for so long?

[00:09:07] Dear God, am I the only one out the loop?

[00:09:09] Um, it was very entertaining to me.

[00:09:11] And I didn't know that he wasn't British.

[00:09:14] I, he, that man has the most British face you have ever seen in your entire life.

[00:09:19] His Wikipedia says Ohio.

[00:09:21] I was like, what?

[00:09:24] In Ohio and Josh O'Connor actually is British.

[00:09:28] Wow.

[00:09:29] Wow.

[00:09:29] Nope.

[00:09:30] Could not remember with a feather because that man is British.

[00:09:31] I don't care what anybody says.

[00:09:32] Mike Fice British.

[00:09:34] British.

[00:09:34] Looking at them right now.

[00:09:35] This is a British man.

[00:09:37] He literally got a nomination for a British Academy film award.

[00:09:40] If that doesn't make you British to nothing will.

[00:09:43] I'm just saying, um, she was in the Broadway musical of dear Evan Hansen,

[00:09:48] which I have seen.

[00:09:50] Yeah, I'm sure you are a noted like, well, it should be more noted that

[00:09:54] you are a fan of musicals.

[00:09:56] Chappelle.

[00:09:57] I am not a fan of musicals.

[00:09:58] I've seen seven.

[00:09:59] Um, literally seven.

[00:10:01] I can name them all.

[00:10:02] That's enough musicals to make you a fan of musicals.

[00:10:05] Cause you see one musical and you're like, ah, I didn't like that.

[00:10:09] And you never go back.

[00:10:10] It's just a thing that you either can or cannot deal with.

[00:10:14] I can deal with them.

[00:10:15] That is true.

[00:10:16] I've seen, cause I saw Dear Evan Hansen.

[00:10:17] I was forced to watch that.

[00:10:19] And then they were like, okay, now let me show you a good musical.

[00:10:21] And then they showed me, um, they showed me Hades town and I was like,

[00:10:25] okay, now you have my attention.

[00:10:27] That's a good musical.

[00:10:28] I've seen Hamilton, uh, which is a good musical.

[00:10:32] Yeah.

[00:10:32] I've seen Mamma Mia, which is not a good musical.

[00:10:34] Don't let people lie to you.

[00:10:35] It is bad.

[00:10:36] Um, it's very ghetto, very ratchet.

[00:10:38] Um, it just, it is.

[00:10:40] And then, um, dang, I said seven, but it might've been less than seven.

[00:10:44] Oh, I've seen the book of Mormon.

[00:10:45] That's the other one.

[00:10:47] Yeah.

[00:10:48] I almost got through all of it.

[00:10:49] So I think, yeah, I think at this point, yeah, throwing a stray green

[00:10:54] dream girls, I've probably seen maybe watch the dream girl.

[00:10:57] Yeah.

[00:10:57] So I think that's almost, that's like six ish.

[00:11:00] That's a good amount of musicals to start with, you know?

[00:11:03] So as a, as the musical enthusiast here on this podcast, I would just

[00:11:06] like to say that I was very happy with Mike Fice, uh, and his performance

[00:11:10] here in this role as a breakout role here, let's turn you cause I've never

[00:11:14] seen this man before in my life, but I'm a fan.

[00:11:16] I thought he did really good in this, uh, in this role.

[00:11:18] Breakout trouble making role.

[00:11:21] Yeah.

[00:11:21] No, I do have trouble.

[00:11:23] This may have caused some trouble during, during this movie.

[00:11:27] Mm hmm.

[00:11:27] And look, and I was here for it.

[00:11:29] It was very good trouble.

[00:11:29] It was good trouble.

[00:11:31] And it was, well, I mean, I think it made for a good movie.

[00:11:35] So, um, before we, before we get lost into the characters, let's just

[00:11:38] outline the plot for the people who are not familiar.

[00:11:41] Uh, you have a Zendaya who is, uh, Tashi.

[00:11:45] Tashi is the new it girl in tennis.

[00:11:48] She's, uh, you know, we get several flashbacks, but at the earliest, she

[00:11:52] is like a young up and coming tennis star who is contemplating going pro,

[00:11:56] but probably just going to go to college to, uh, to play tennis.

[00:11:59] And she is the apple of everybody's eyes, which is why you cast

[00:12:02] Zendaya in a role like this, right?

[00:12:04] Like somebody who just like anybody can fall in love with.

[00:12:06] So here you go.

[00:12:08] Uh, and so in this time as a tennis player, she meets, uh, these two men

[00:12:13] who they've grown up together.

[00:12:14] They've grown up alongside each other at a boarding school and stuff.

[00:12:17] And they are very connected besties.

[00:12:20] They do everything together.

[00:12:21] They even sometimes try to holler at the same woman.

[00:12:23] And that is Zendaya.

[00:12:25] Now we will learn very quickly that Zendaya, she loves a good competition.

[00:12:28] She just does.

[00:12:29] If you're going to compete, she's going to let it happen.

[00:12:31] And so eventually we find the three of them were competing

[00:12:34] for each other's attention.

[00:12:35] Both guys competing for Zendaya's attention and her just kind of

[00:12:39] navigating that and going, I won't say where the wind blows, but going

[00:12:42] wherever the competition is strongest.

[00:12:44] And so, um, we will navigate that all the way to the end to where

[00:12:48] one of the guys is forced to play tennis against his counterpart.

[00:12:52] They haven't been friends for a while due largely to their

[00:12:55] interaction with Zendaya.

[00:12:56] And the movie ends with what some would call a cliffhanger of sorts,

[00:12:59] or some type of mixed interpretation ending that I would love

[00:13:02] to talk about with LaTonya.

[00:13:03] Um, but that is the movie.

[00:13:05] That is, uh, challenges.

[00:13:06] Uh, I'm pretty sure that's those are the big points now.

[00:13:09] It gets freaky in the middle, but I think that kind of

[00:13:11] outlines what we're talking about.

[00:13:14] Yeah.

[00:13:14] Um, just like, I'm just happy to be in a time where a movie

[00:13:20] like this can get made, um, and, and be starring somebody like Zendaya.

[00:13:25] I mean, they have a line in this movie, like, aren't you everybody's type?

[00:13:28] And it's just very much, she very much is like demographically.

[00:13:33] So there's been studies done.

[00:13:36] So like, it's just some of the things that she gets to say, I'm just proud

[00:13:41] of her for getting to say those things in a movie to someone.

[00:13:45] Um, like when her husband asked for her unconditional love,

[00:13:48] she's like, who am I?

[00:13:49] Jesus?

[00:13:50] Right.

[00:13:51] You want something that I'm supposed to like, since when?

[00:13:54] I was like, well, she has a good point.

[00:13:58] Isn't it, isn't it, it's underrated how people will say

[00:14:02] stuff like that to you and then you think about it and you're

[00:14:03] like, but God is supposed to give you that, you know, like that's not

[00:14:06] supposed to come from everybody.

[00:14:07] There are conditions on love in real life.

[00:14:09] Yeah.

[00:14:10] And there should be.

[00:14:11] I'm glad that you feel that way.

[00:14:14] Um, I feel like a lot of people do not feel that way, or at least

[00:14:18] they want to pretend that they don't.

[00:14:20] Um, and they're just not being very truthful with themselves.

[00:14:24] Right.

[00:14:24] Cause, um, unconditional love sounds like no matter what you do,

[00:14:27] I will still love you and I will, I will go on record right now and

[00:14:31] tell you there's not one person in the world that falls into that

[00:14:33] category for me.

[00:14:34] There, there's always, there's always a line where I will choose

[00:14:38] myself over you, you know what I'm saying?

[00:14:40] And, uh, we've seen Jesus make ultimate sacrifices that

[00:14:43] you will never see she'll help me.

[00:14:44] So, uh, Zendaya right on the right track with this one, LaTanya.

[00:14:48] Um, but you're right.

[00:14:49] This is such an empowering role for someone like Zendaya who was

[00:14:52] largely looked at as like, as a child actress, essentially she's now

[00:14:56] gotten such huge roles for a lot of times still playing young women,

[00:15:01] you know, playing young, like kids almost.

[00:15:03] And in this role we see, uh, Zendaya the young lady, but then we also

[00:15:07] see her as a grown woman and then we see her years into a relationship.

[00:15:11] So we see some growth in Zendaya that I don't think we've seen

[00:15:14] on a lot of her roles before.

[00:15:16] Yeah.

[00:15:16] She's never played a mother before.

[00:15:18] This is her first time.

[00:15:20] And when I say playing a mother, I mean, the way that like rich people

[00:15:24] play, yeah, well that she, she is mother.

[00:15:27] I see her eat every day.

[00:15:29] Um, and, uh, and also like, you know, she, they have a child in this movie,

[00:15:39] which do that is the most hilarious.

[00:15:42] We have a child.

[00:15:46] Her mother has another child, um, that she now gets paid to help

[00:15:52] make go into a different room.

[00:15:54] Um, and sometimes they interact with that child, but that's it.

[00:16:00] That's it.

[00:16:00] Yeah.

[00:16:01] They have a child in the way that rich people have kids.

[00:16:04] I'm glad you brought that up because there is a scene in the movie

[00:16:06] where Zendaya is going to find her husband slash baby daddy.

[00:16:10] And she goes to the hotel room and she doesn't see him.

[00:16:13] And she starts to panic like, Oh my God, where is he?

[00:16:14] Did he leave?

[00:16:15] Is he gone?

[00:16:16] What happened?

[00:16:17] And then she goes in the other room and he's just laying in

[00:16:18] the bed with the child.

[00:16:19] She's like, Oh right.

[00:16:21] We do have one of those.

[00:16:22] He can spend time with the kid.

[00:16:24] That makes sense.

[00:16:26] Like I forgot there was another person in the hotel.

[00:16:29] I was like, Oh, that's why the mom is there.

[00:16:34] Right.

[00:16:34] They kept bringing it up.

[00:16:35] This is why we stay in hotels.

[00:16:36] Cause, uh, Billy, I think is the kid's name.

[00:16:39] Lily.

[00:16:40] She likes it.

[00:16:40] She likes this.

[00:16:42] She fell set up them kids.

[00:16:44] Lily, lily eyelash.

[00:16:46] That's her name.

[00:16:48] Lilliam.

[00:16:49] Um, yeah, I just, I just think it's really funny.

[00:16:53] That at a certain age in Hollywood, you become a mom and it makes me feel all

[00:17:01] kinds of old that Zendaya has become a mom on screen.

[00:17:05] Yeah.

[00:17:06] Um, I'm just going to put that out there.

[00:17:08] No, I remember back in the days back when Hollywood was young or in our,

[00:17:13] or not as old, but you know, it would be very commonplace for you to see a

[00:17:18] woman playing a mother of somebody who she's like two years older than, you

[00:17:22] know, uh, oh yeah.

[00:17:23] Like she played their mom in this role, but also there's a 15, 20 year age

[00:17:27] difference between these people.

[00:17:29] I think of, uh, Garrett Moore Morris, I think his name is from the Jamie Foxx

[00:17:34] show him and Helen are like 25 years apart.

[00:17:37] I was like, and Helen closer to Jamie Foxx's age than she was to uncle

[00:17:41] junior's age.

[00:17:42] I'm like, why didn't anybody say anything?

[00:17:44] Oh, so they don't care.

[00:17:46] Yeah.

[00:17:47] But Zendaya has, she's, she's ascended.

[00:17:49] She's now in the mommy role.

[00:17:50] I feel like once you break the seal, you can like, she can't ever go back.

[00:17:54] Like now she can be somebody's mom in a sitcom or in a movie or

[00:17:57] something like that.

[00:17:58] It's time.

[00:18:00] It's ridiculous is what it is.

[00:18:04] Um, but I guess on the plus side of things, it could create

[00:18:07] a new generation of Zendaya.

[00:18:10] That's true.

[00:18:11] And we love Zendaya.

[00:18:12] So, you know, bring us more Zendaya I guess.

[00:18:15] Yeah, more.

[00:18:16] Why not more?

[00:18:17] You know, Latonya, um, Zendaya, like I said, she

[00:18:20] is the titular, well, the main person, I guess in this role.

[00:18:23] I was gonna say the titular role, but she's not the challenger.

[00:18:25] She's very much just lining challenges up.

[00:18:27] Uh, I thought it was so fascinating that she is the, like, she

[00:18:31] is the Zendaya character.

[00:18:32] Everybody has eyes on her.

[00:18:34] Uh, and she is a seemingly attracted.

[00:18:38] And this is just my takeaway.

[00:18:39] I haven't read any articles or anything, but she's attracted to the,

[00:18:42] to the challenge, you know, it's, it is more like the competition

[00:18:46] between these two guys is really what is getting her going.

[00:18:49] And when they're not competing, whether it's in tennis or against

[00:18:52] each other for her, her, you know, affection, she's kind of indifferent.

[00:18:56] She's like, I don't, I don't really know what to tell you.

[00:18:58] If you're not battling for something, if you're not trying

[00:19:00] to win something, why are you here?

[00:19:01] You're not trying to win something.

[00:19:02] What are you doing?

[00:19:03] Um, like Tashi in my opinion, Tashi's first love is tennis.

[00:19:09] Uh, which is why, you know, they have a scene that I know we'll

[00:19:13] talk about where they're all like down at the rocks at this event

[00:19:16] that is built around Tashi.

[00:19:19] And they're talking about like, why would someone like Tashi possibly go

[00:19:25] to college as opposed to just going pro and she's just like, well, you

[00:19:30] don't understand what tennis is.

[00:19:32] Tennis is a relationship.

[00:19:34] Um, like it's like the only time when we're actually really alive

[00:19:39] and like communicating with each other.

[00:19:41] So her first love and the thing that she does incredibly well is tennis.

[00:19:46] And ultimately this is, uh, you know, like a, a horror show for her

[00:19:53] because her entire, the thing that she loves and loves to talk about

[00:19:58] and just like loves to think about more than anything in the world.

[00:20:02] So it gets taken away from her.

[00:20:05] Um, and these two men are involved the whole way in some way, shape or form.

[00:20:11] So she gets to see them go ahead and have the possibility of living the

[00:20:16] dream that she always wanted to live.

[00:20:19] And if you're not going to be great yourself, you become great

[00:20:22] by making others great, I guess.

[00:20:25] Um, and so yes, she very much cares about the tennis.

[00:20:30] She very much cares about the competition.

[00:20:33] Um, we see that when they're having that, like scene where

[00:20:38] they're all on the bed together is for Tashi.

[00:20:42] She's just like, I bet I can make them kiss basically.

[00:20:45] Yeah.

[00:20:45] Like I bet I can like mastermind this situation into like making them kiss.

[00:20:50] And she does.

[00:20:52] And then once she's done that, she's like, I've

[00:20:55] accomplished that competition goal.

[00:20:57] Right.

[00:20:57] Kay, bye.

[00:20:58] You know, and then she ups and leaves.

[00:21:00] Um, but yeah, like let's explore how we get there.

[00:21:02] So, uh, it starts, like you said, Zedaya loses.

[00:21:06] Tashi loses one of the things that makes her who she is.

[00:21:08] And that's the tennis thing.

[00:21:10] She gets hurt.

[00:21:11] And so we see her and her, and her husband, uh, at the time, uh, art,

[00:21:16] I believe art is the husband.

[00:21:18] Yeah.

[00:21:19] Art Thomason.

[00:21:19] We see them talking and she cannot play tennis anymore.

[00:21:23] She has hurt herself.

[00:21:24] We don't know why yet, but she can't do it, but he can.

[00:21:28] And so she's like his trainer, his coach, but it doesn't seem

[00:21:31] like his heart is in it.

[00:21:32] And so she's like, listen, what do I have to do to get you back playing?

[00:21:37] Cause if, if I could be playing, there's nothing that would stop me.

[00:21:41] Like you, she's like, you know what I would give to be able to bounce

[00:21:44] back from an injury like you had, like, I know someone, a child or an old woman.

[00:21:52] She definitely would have, she listens.

[00:21:54] She has a child right now.

[00:21:55] She's not acknowledging and it, you know, and that's not going

[00:21:57] to help her get back on the court.

[00:21:59] Um, but yeah, it starts there.

[00:22:01] And you can tell very early on that art might be losing his love for tennis,

[00:22:06] but that might also be causing Zendaya to lose her love for art considering

[00:22:11] they met on the tennis court.

[00:22:13] You know, that was the first time they really laid eyes on each other

[00:22:16] was when Art and his friend were going after Zendaya and trying to figure out,

[00:22:20] okay, well who stands the best shot at getting, uh, Tashi's number,

[00:22:26] hooking up with Tashi, having sex with Tashi.

[00:22:28] They were like, they were just doing like they were

[00:22:29] growing down and talking about her as if she was the prize.

[00:22:33] When in reality, she just, she could not be bothered.

[00:22:36] She's like, I mean, it's kind of entertaining that y'all are competing

[00:22:40] with each other right in front of me.

[00:22:42] So I'll allow it.

[00:22:43] And that's what leads them ultimately to her, to their hotel room.

[00:22:48] Yes.

[00:22:49] Um, um, Patrick is just kind of like come back to the room.

[00:22:54] Art's like, there's no way she's going to do it.

[00:22:56] She actually gets back there.

[00:22:58] We learn about like, we've seen these two have a very close bond with each other.

[00:23:03] We see that they, uh, have, you know, played doubles tennis together,

[00:23:08] which is very adorable.

[00:23:10] Um, we see that they are like going to check out Tashi's match together,

[00:23:14] which is like in this movie, the tennis is the sex.

[00:23:19] So like, uh, they have the, all of the, like a history of these

[00:23:23] sexual experiences together, essentially.

[00:23:26] Um, like when they're both watching Tashi play one of them for the first time,

[00:23:32] it is like a sexual awakening in a way for them.

[00:23:35] Like they're like, uh, uh, Patrick even grabs Art's thigh at one point

[00:23:40] and like a climactic point in the actual match itself.

[00:23:45] So these two are, these two have their own interesting relationship, I think.

[00:23:52] Um, and I love the way that all the little touches in the movie allude to that.

[00:23:57] The story that they tells in Deja in the hotel room about how, um, Art taught.

[00:24:03] Well, let's get hold on.

[00:24:04] Well, hold on.

[00:24:05] Let's not, let's not jump right to there.

[00:24:06] Cause we're going to have to really dive into that conversation.

[00:24:09] I just go ahead and preface this with this movie, Hela Bisexual.

[00:24:12] Okay.

[00:24:13] Hela.

[00:24:13] Like LaTanya kind of just lost over the fact that this grown man grabbed

[00:24:17] his other man's thigh in the middle of a tennis match.

[00:24:20] I don't think I've ever had a man grab my thigh period.

[00:24:22] That is the sentence.

[00:24:23] Like it's never happened.

[00:24:24] I think my thighs have been untouched by men.

[00:24:26] And so for that to happen in this movie, they make a point of letting

[00:24:30] you know that it happened, right?

[00:24:32] There's a lot of like, what do they call it?

[00:24:34] Homorotic vibes in this movie.

[00:24:35] Like we're eating churros and bananas.

[00:24:38] They're only eating bananas, churros and hot dogs.

[00:24:41] Dick shaped foods only.

[00:24:42] Like that's it.

[00:24:43] Just salad shaped foods.

[00:24:44] That's it.

[00:24:45] I said, so y'all they, it's like they dropped that trailer a year ago.

[00:24:49] To see how people would kind of like to gauge how people would feel about

[00:24:53] like the bisexuality of it.

[00:24:55] Right.

[00:24:55] And then when people were like, Oh, more of that, there's a bit.

[00:24:57] And so now every scene is basically like, isn't that a little gay?

[00:25:01] That's a little gay.

[00:25:02] Don't you think like turn that up, turn that up some more.

[00:25:04] It was a lot of that.

[00:25:06] There's like scenes in this movie that ultimately I don't think have much

[00:25:10] meaning that still have that subtext.

[00:25:12] Like the call me by your name thing was that Timothy Chalamet

[00:25:16] screwed a peach, right?

[00:25:17] There's like a basket of pop, pop, pop, stop, stop.

[00:25:21] So hold on, slow down.

[00:25:22] Um, when you say screw the peach, is that like screw the peach?

[00:25:28] Is that like a fridge?

[00:25:29] Oh, I was like, Oh, screw the peach.

[00:25:31] No.

[00:25:32] Okay.

[00:25:32] Like he didn't have sex with a fruit.

[00:25:34] That's not what Timothy Chalamet did.

[00:25:36] Yes he did.

[00:25:37] Do the Oopa Loopas know?

[00:25:39] Like, I just feel like you have to let everybody in on something like

[00:25:42] this, like you can just start having sex with peaches and we all just

[00:25:44] think, okay, that's fine.

[00:25:45] That's normal.

[00:25:47] You go Chalamet.

[00:25:51] The funniest thing about that press tour was that ridiculous Capricorn

[00:25:57] boy being honest about the fact that he had actually done it.

[00:26:01] He was like, well, how could I, how could I portray it?

[00:26:03] If I had not myself done it.

[00:26:06] I don't understand what you're saying, LaTanya.

[00:26:09] When you say it, you do not mean had sex with a peach because Chalamet.

[00:26:15] My brother in Christ.

[00:26:16] Well, I won't even lie like that.

[00:26:18] Chalamet, what did you, huh?

[00:26:20] So did, so was he saying, this is completely off topic, but he was

[00:26:24] saying he had sex with a peach in preparation for this or it was like,

[00:26:27] I saw the role and somebody to have sex with the peach and I was like,

[00:26:31] Oh, I've done that before.

[00:26:32] I'm, I'm the man.

[00:26:33] I've done it before, but just like, I'm down to do it on camera.

[00:26:39] I need more context LaTanya.

[00:26:41] I'm sorry.

[00:26:41] It's just, I have questions.

[00:26:43] It was in the script, but this was something that he was going to have to do.

[00:26:47] And so he thought to himself in his private time, not in front of a camera.

[00:26:52] Well, I guess like, this is something I should maybe try.

[00:26:55] And he didn't feel me.

[00:26:56] I feel like if you have sex with a peach, you at that point, you have

[00:26:58] to, you have to have to drop it only for us.

[00:27:03] You gotta, you gotta drop the footage.

[00:27:05] You got to have to, I'm not that I would watch it, but I mean, if you

[00:27:07] told me somebody's having sex with a peach, I'm not not go watch the movie.

[00:27:12] Call me by your name.

[00:27:13] I'm not going to go watch that movie, but if somebody just sent me

[00:27:16] the scenes I need to see,

[00:27:20] in this movie and a scene where they're just like waiting,

[00:27:23] waiting to go on court.

[00:27:25] There's just like a giant basket of peaches.

[00:27:27] There's no need.

[00:27:29] No reason.

[00:27:29] There's no need for them to be there.

[00:27:32] Yeah.

[00:27:32] Other than for us to be thinking about bisexual things at all times

[00:27:36] while this movie is occurring.

[00:27:38] Peach is officially the most bisexual fruit of all time.

[00:27:40] And it's not even close.

[00:27:41] Like I will never, I will never look at a peach the same.

[00:27:44] Like I didn't look for a pie is the same for a very long time either.

[00:27:47] Thanks to American pie.

[00:27:49] Yeah.

[00:27:50] And I don't even eat apple pie.

[00:27:52] Scent of it really does keep up in the ante in terms of what you can

[00:27:55] and cannot have sex with.

[00:27:58] So you went from a fruit pie to just the fruit.

[00:28:00] The fruit.

[00:28:01] Now like do you, now you, you gotta have sex with the tree.

[00:28:04] I guess.

[00:28:05] Yeah, you got to, you got to get to the root of the problem.

[00:28:07] Someone's had to do it.

[00:28:10] But, but yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of bisexual things

[00:28:14] happening in this movie.

[00:28:17] There's a lot of like panic that's happening at the disco.

[00:28:21] Like people are, people are just really, like everyone's very

[00:28:30] horny and in very good shape.

[00:28:32] So this makes sense.

[00:28:33] It's like, you know, when they talk about the amount of condoms,

[00:28:36] they give out the Olympic village.

[00:28:38] Like, right.

[00:28:39] You know, some of those are going to be just to be like, Hey, I got my Olympic

[00:28:43] village condoms, but like most of those are getting used by all of the

[00:28:47] attractive people that we have like congregating around here for Olympic

[00:28:52] reasons.

[00:28:53] So you're saying there should be a limit on the level of attractiveness

[00:28:55] for the bisexual people, because at some point, like, cause at some

[00:28:59] point they get so attractive.

[00:29:01] There's like, okay, well who could blame you?

[00:29:02] You know, go have sex, you know, like what are you doing?

[00:29:05] If you look like you wouldn't, you do it too, you know, um, cause

[00:29:08] the Olympic village people are doing it.

[00:29:09] It's a competition for them too.

[00:29:11] You know what I'm saying?

[00:29:11] They're like, how many laps can I run?

[00:29:14] How many things can I swim?

[00:29:15] How many things people can I mount?

[00:29:16] You know, like I'm pretty sure they're coming through all those

[00:29:19] thought processes.

[00:29:19] If you don't think that sex is a competition, then I don't know.

[00:29:24] Why are you in the Olympics anyway?

[00:29:25] Yeah.

[00:29:26] Whose country are you representing at the Olympics?

[00:29:28] Really?

[00:29:28] If you're not going to, you're competing in the sex Olympics part.

[00:29:31] Like that's the part we need to keep up with.

[00:29:33] Uh, LaTonya, they end up in the bedroom and this is where it gets

[00:29:37] really by, right?

[00:29:38] Cause it's like Zendaya says I'm not here to be a home wrecker.

[00:29:43] And when she said that I thought she was insinuating I'm not here to

[00:29:47] like y'all are obviously a couple of some sorts.

[00:29:50] I'm not here to break that up, but I kind of now thinking about it,

[00:29:53] thinking back, she probably was just making a joke of like, I'm not

[00:29:55] here to ruin your friendship.

[00:29:56] You know, y'all are both like flirting with me and I'm not here

[00:30:00] to ruin your friendship, but, but now I can see it both ways.

[00:30:03] Like I said, it's very by, you know,

[00:30:05] I was like, I'm not like,

[00:30:07] No, I thought it was what, as like you two are in a relationship.

[00:30:11] Obviously.

[00:30:12] Uh, everyone can tell at this point.

[00:30:17] Right, but you can't just assume somebody is gay like that.

[00:30:20] And she's like, so I'm not trying to be a home wrecker,

[00:30:22] but y'all clearly got something going on.

[00:30:24] It's like, ma'am, they, they listen, even if, even if that

[00:30:26] is the case, if these are both homosexual men, they are getting

[00:30:29] you back to that room for something.

[00:30:31] So, you know, like, I don't think you have to, if you thought

[00:30:33] they weren't attracted to you, I think at some point you have to say,

[00:30:36] why am I here?

[00:30:37] You know, like, why did y'all call me?

[00:30:39] I think she kind of knows that they're at least mildly interested in her

[00:30:43] being in the vicinity when it happens.

[00:30:45] Yeah.

[00:30:46] Yeah.

[00:30:47] I mean, you know, they've been in the vicinity of each other before.

[00:30:54] When acts have happened.

[00:30:56] Yeah.

[00:30:56] Tell the story.

[00:30:57] You can now, look, now you can give people the moment where we are,

[00:31:01] everybody collectively in a movie theater, clutches their pearls and kind

[00:31:04] of raises the eyebrow like, Oh,

[00:31:09] Patrick taught art how to masturbate.

[00:31:12] Um, you can't just say stuff like that in a movie, you know, like he said it

[00:31:17] and me and Zendaya at the same time were like, come again.

[00:31:19] Like, what do you mean?

[00:31:20] Yeah.

[00:31:21] But what does that mean?

[00:31:21] What do you mean?

[00:31:25] You can't, I won't say you can't teach someone how to masturbate, but

[00:31:28] you can't say that you taught somebody how to masturbate while that person

[00:31:31] is sitting right there.

[00:31:32] Explain what it is that you're talking about.

[00:31:35] Cause there are many ways of teaching.

[00:31:37] Right.

[00:31:37] But then even then, is there an acceptable answer for that?

[00:31:40] Like, Oh yeah.

[00:31:41] I platonically taught somebody how to masturbate.

[00:31:44] Right.

[00:31:44] Well, we were on separate beds across the room from each other.

[00:31:48] We were thinking about the same girl.

[00:31:51] Yeah.

[00:31:51] But at some point there's a coaching happening.

[00:31:53] See, that's the thing.

[00:31:55] Even if in my mind's eye, I could separate like, okay, y'all across the

[00:31:58] room, you don't look at each other.

[00:32:00] You handling your business, you handling your business.

[00:32:02] Tashi's on your mind.

[00:32:03] We just use Tashi as an example.

[00:32:05] We don't know who the girl was at the time.

[00:32:06] She had a name, but it doesn't matter.

[00:32:07] She's not in this movie.

[00:32:08] And so she got injured too.

[00:32:10] These boys are dangerous.

[00:32:12] You will they tag team with everybody and that's not okay.

[00:32:15] So that happened.

[00:32:17] But when, when you start to like, all right now next steps, like when

[00:32:21] you start to really start to coach, that's where I'm like, all right, this

[00:32:24] is, this is too much for the kid.

[00:32:26] I'm out.

[00:32:26] I got to, I was like, I said, I could, I could logic my way through all of it.

[00:32:30] But when the guy across the road was like, okay, so now just like it's,

[00:32:35] it's a, it's a cupping motion.

[00:32:36] You know, like when you start to get that kind of insight, you don't,

[00:32:40] you're like, all right, shut it down.

[00:32:41] Shut it down.

[00:32:41] We in the movie dead ass.

[00:32:43] Right.

[00:32:47] Um, this is a video podcast.

[00:32:54] Everybody's gonna see us blessing.

[00:32:55] Oh, you're laughing and dying.

[00:32:56] Talking about this, which I, we're children.

[00:33:00] But the thing that's so great about this scene of the movie, they're so

[00:33:04] young as their characters and we're kind of all transported back to that.

[00:33:09] Like 17, 18 year old mindset where you're like, wait, what do you mean?

[00:33:14] He, he showed you how, like, what are you talking about?

[00:33:17] Like, were you silent?

[00:33:18] Like what?

[00:33:19] You silenced like,

[00:33:25] I just, it's like, I want to know, but I also don't want to know.

[00:33:28] Right.

[00:33:28] So it's kind of like no after question.

[00:33:30] You don't want to know the answer to what we found out.

[00:33:32] Yeah.

[00:33:33] There was some masturbation across the room.

[00:33:34] There was some coaching and afterwards there was just a mess and they

[00:33:40] laughed and they, they don't really talk about it.

[00:33:43] Yeah.

[00:33:44] Um, they just never come back to this again as people, like they just

[00:33:50] compartmentalize this completely while having like hand motions for each other,

[00:33:57] uh, during tennis matches and like rolling around on the ground, intertwined,

[00:34:02] um, like celebrating things together.

[00:34:05] And pretending to be drinking out of your, your like trophy together.

[00:34:14] Like it's just, you know, and then eating all of the

[00:34:16] phallic food ever made together.

[00:34:18] Right.

[00:34:19] It's just like the underlying thought throughout this movie was like, now kiss.

[00:34:22] You know, like, okay.

[00:34:23] Which is exactly what Zendaya was like.

[00:34:26] She was like, okay, I will acknowledge that she did decide to kiss Art first

[00:34:30] because she was just like, this one's too full of himself.

[00:34:33] I'm not going to do this to society.

[00:34:35] So she kissed Kisses Art first.

[00:34:37] Then she goes back to Patrick and then she like puts them together to kiss

[00:34:43] and they get really into it.

[00:34:45] And she's just kind of sitting back like, look what I've done.

[00:34:48] Well, she trapped them.

[00:34:49] So she's like in the middle.

[00:34:51] So they're kissing her.

[00:34:52] She even like throws her neck up, like, come on.

[00:34:55] And you know, the crazy thing is that this is in there.

[00:34:57] So, you know, she's done this in real life.

[00:34:58] Stop it.

[00:34:59] Like Zendaya definitely is the type of person who, if she leans her

[00:35:01] neck back long enough, people are like, Oh, do I kiss?

[00:35:03] Is it time?

[00:35:04] And so she does it and she's like, Hey, come on.

[00:35:07] And so they both start kissing her neck and they're kissing her cheek.

[00:35:09] Then it got like a three way like kids like, Oh, then it gets bisexual

[00:35:13] kiss, then she just kind of slowly backs out like, all right, let's

[00:35:17] see what happens.

[00:35:18] And they keep kissing it until they finally open their eyes and look at

[00:35:22] me like, Oh, what is, Oh, so you just, you just left.

[00:35:26] And the look on Zendaya's face is like the, it's the look that's plastered

[00:35:29] all over social media right now.

[00:35:31] She's on the bed, but she looks so pleased.

[00:35:33] It's like, it's so happy.

[00:35:34] It's almost devious how happy she looks at the fact that she got

[00:35:38] these two guys kissing.

[00:35:40] It's I mean, good for her.

[00:35:43] Like I believe that Tashi Duncan should have what Tashi Duncan wants.

[00:35:48] And in this particular time, she wanted to get to bed at a sensible hour

[00:35:54] while still causing some mischief.

[00:35:57] So that is what she went to do.

[00:36:00] And we support her and all of these things.

[00:36:04] And then she just manages to have a chokehold over these men for

[00:36:10] the rest of their actual lives.

[00:36:12] Yeah, for literally forever.

[00:36:15] So the next day we see them playing their asses off in tennis now, because they

[00:36:19] have to impress her too.

[00:36:20] Remember she's, she's impressed by the, like the competition.

[00:36:23] She wants to see the winner.

[00:36:24] She said, I'll give you my number if you win.

[00:36:27] Yeah.

[00:36:27] And they are cooking.

[00:36:28] I mean, Patrick is just like cooking.

[00:36:30] He's bowing to the crowd, all kinds of stuff.

[00:36:32] Now we know in the future that this does not work out for Patrick because

[00:36:36] we get a lot of flashbacks in this movie.

[00:36:38] I like a lot of them.

[00:36:39] Um, so we know that it starts off Patrick's in a blender, but back

[00:36:43] then he was eat like very clearly the apple of her eye because he's winning.

[00:36:48] There's now Patrick in the real time, Latonya, when I say he's going through

[00:36:53] the man is swiping on dating apps, bisexual dating apps at that trying to

[00:36:58] look for someone who we can sleep with.

[00:37:00] So he has a place to sleep.

[00:37:01] The man is homosexual and it's, uh, you know, at this point, anybody

[00:37:06] can get it, he's like, I just need a place to rest my head so I can

[00:37:08] win this, uh, this little tournament.

[00:37:10] Yeah.

[00:37:11] You see him, uh, in his opening scene, like when we see adult him and he's

[00:37:16] just trying against all hope and dreams to use this credit card that he knows

[00:37:22] is maxed out, he even like tries to flirt with the front desk attendant.

[00:37:29] And she's like, if you don't get your broke ass out of hell,

[00:37:33] like what are you doing?

[00:37:34] What would happen if we just gave beds away to everyone who wanted one?

[00:37:38] Um, and this man is like going to sleep in his car on the grounds of the

[00:37:47] country club where he is hoping to get his next paycheck.

[00:37:52] Mm-hmm.

[00:37:53] And it's, it's a wild question.

[00:37:55] Like what would we do if we just gave beds to people who needed them?

[00:37:58] Like, what if we house the homeless Latonya?

[00:38:00] What would that look like?

[00:38:04] You know, that is a, that is a really good question.

[00:38:08] Yeah.

[00:38:09] What if billion dollar corporations just did nice things for people?

[00:38:14] Huh?

[00:38:15] Huh?

[00:38:16] I mean, I don't know if they'd be billion dollar corporations then.

[00:38:19] I think once you hit a billion, you can start to make some risks.

[00:38:21] You know, like I'm sure once you hit a billion dollars at that point,

[00:38:25] you got little wiggle room to play with.

[00:38:26] You can give away this hotel could literally a lot like, all right,

[00:38:31] let's a lot like maybe like two weeks a year to just random people who

[00:38:36] just need a place to stay.

[00:38:37] Like the, the, the look, it was good enough for Jesus, you know?

[00:38:40] Right.

[00:38:41] You know, but whatever who, who are me?

[00:38:43] Who am I?

[00:38:43] Jesus?

[00:38:44] Right.

[00:38:44] I'm not Jesus though.

[00:38:45] Maybe, you know, whatever.

[00:38:46] They like that person at the front desk, like find the nearest

[00:38:49] manger and knock yourself out.

[00:38:51] So, uh, yeah.

[00:38:52] And in the present time, obviously he's struggling, but we see that

[00:38:56] him Zendaya and art, they all still have this connection, you know,

[00:39:01] uh, cause he's trying to figure out what are you even doing with art still?

[00:39:05] Like, why is this a thing?

[00:39:06] And she, and she, he can't really figure it out because he's like,

[00:39:10] you were supposed to be with me.

[00:39:12] Uh, y'all don't fit.

[00:39:13] He doesn't even love tennis anymore.

[00:39:15] You can tell his heart's not in it.

[00:39:17] He's really speaking to the things that are turning Zendaya off from her husband.

[00:39:22] Yeah.

[00:39:22] He straight up tells her like you hate him.

[00:39:25] What are you doing?

[00:39:27] Like he definitely doesn't like you anymore because you're just

[00:39:31] mom now to him.

[00:39:32] You're like the person who like demands he play tennis at all times.

[00:39:37] Um, and, and she, part of the way that she talks to Patrick in this movie is

[00:39:46] like some of the funniest stuff that I've ever heard.

[00:39:49] Um, just in terms of dialogue, like there's one scene where they have,

[00:39:55] where this man is just trying to go back, uh, to a hotel near where he is

[00:40:01] so that he can have a date so that he can have a place to sleep and runs into

[00:40:07] Tashi because it's obviously Tashi's hotel and he's like, Oh wow.

[00:40:12] You know, your mom looks really good.

[00:40:13] She's like, yeah, I know my mom looks good.

[00:40:15] Patrick was.

[00:40:19] And what about it?

[00:40:20] No, she's sick of him, which is crazy because should she be, well, we

[00:40:24] find out later on that she is holding on to something that Patrick did and

[00:40:28] blaming him for it, uh, well into, uh, into their adult life.

[00:40:32] Um, but we haven't quite gotten there yet.

[00:40:34] One of the other things that happened when they were kids or when they were

[00:40:37] younger tennis players is that, um, Patrick was very obviously going to make

[00:40:41] his move at Tashi at some point, whereas art was a little bit more, I

[00:40:46] won't say timid, but he wasn't as out outwardly trying to holler at

[00:40:49] her, uh, to the point where, uh, art starts to question Patrick.

[00:40:53] Did you y'all ever, y'all ever date?

[00:40:55] Y'all ever mess around y'all y'all having sex?

[00:40:58] And he's like, what?

[00:41:01] No, he's like, well, I could tell, you know, if you wanted to give me a sign,

[00:41:05] like if you served a certain way, you know, or something like that, I would

[00:41:08] probably know, you know, not to kiss and tell, but there are ways.

[00:41:12] Like you said, these two people know each other so well that they have

[00:41:15] little signs and, uh, uh, ways of speaking nonverbally that only the

[00:41:19] two of them would pick up on.

[00:41:21] And we find out very early on that, yeah, Patrick and her have

[00:41:24] messed around, or at least that's what Patrick says.

[00:41:26] Right.

[00:41:27] Um, and I mean like, you would assume that that is the natural thing,

[00:41:31] like progression of what would happen after he got her number is

[00:41:35] that they would have sex.

[00:41:36] You know, like, I don't know what else they're doing if they're not.

[00:41:41] Um, but if you need to serve, um, to give us something to remember later,

[00:41:46] uh, from when an important thing happens in the movie, then by all

[00:41:50] means I have a tennis fan, so please do this.

[00:41:54] Um, like please make more movies be three set long tennis matches, right?

[00:42:03] With tie breaks at the end.

[00:42:05] Like please make more movies.

[00:42:08] Like, uh, invent cameras to capture certain movements that happen in

[00:42:14] tennis, like this is the type of stuff as a fan of tennis that I like to see.

[00:42:19] Yeah.

[00:42:20] No, this was, this was a fun watch.

[00:42:21] Like I'm not the biggest tennis fan.

[00:42:23] I root for my black women tennis players and that's about it.

[00:42:25] So, uh, Coco, Naomi, y'all know who y'all are.

[00:42:28] Serena, you know, y'all know my people.

[00:42:30] Uh, and so I've always rooted for them, but this, this made

[00:42:32] tennis way more entertaining.

[00:42:35] Um, so we get through like a lot of the like, well, they won't

[00:42:39] they have Patrick and Zendaya.

[00:42:40] They obviously do at some point.

[00:42:42] Um, but, um, at some point we realized that, uh, Tashi is getting

[00:42:48] better and better and better and she's so driven and she's so,

[00:42:50] she's got her eye on the prize, but due to her, I guess what she will look

[00:42:55] at it as her relationship with, uh, Patrick, she hurts herself.

[00:42:59] We watch her playing tennis and I mean, her whole knee, I don't know

[00:43:05] where the ACL and MCL and all that stuff meet, but it looks like

[00:43:08] she jacked all that stuff up.

[00:43:10] No, she, um, dislocated some things during that match.

[00:43:15] You, you really think that that was Patrick's fault and not Art's fault?

[00:43:20] No, I actually don't.

[00:43:21] Like I think Zendaya, uh, Tashi, I think she blames Patrick, you know?

[00:43:25] Um, I don't think, I don't think it's either of their faults.

[00:43:29] I think, uh, it's tennis, you know, like I think people get hurt.

[00:43:32] People do get hurt in tennis.

[00:43:34] There is something to be said for like the fact that Art arranged a

[00:43:39] lunch with Tashi before he knew that Tashi would be seeing, um, his

[00:43:46] friend, cause at this time they were still friends.

[00:43:49] Um, her boyfriend and was like, no, I don't think he's in love with you.

[00:43:53] And got her all in her head and then met with him and was like, I don't

[00:43:57] think she's that interested in you actually based on a

[00:44:00] conversation we had during the meal.

[00:44:03] Yeah.

[00:44:05] Yeah.

[00:44:06] And even then I'm like, are y'all friends?

[00:44:09] You know, so like it was just all out of whack by the time we got to

[00:44:18] the actual fight that took place between Patrick and Tashi, but at a certain

[00:44:26] point I'm going to be pissing you.

[00:44:28] Like if you tell me you don't want to be a member of my fan club

[00:44:31] and you know, I've got a match in like an hour.

[00:44:34] Yeah.

[00:44:35] Uh, like, uh-uh.

[00:44:39] Like that completely threw her off.

[00:44:41] She was so in her head that entire time.

[00:44:44] Yeah.

[00:44:45] It was bad.

[00:44:46] This was bad.

[00:44:47] And yeah, it threw her off.

[00:44:48] But she's never able to forgive anybody for that.

[00:44:50] Right?

[00:44:51] So it's just like from there, her attention completely shifts.

[00:44:54] Like she's no longer into Patrick at all.

[00:44:56] Like it is just art.

[00:44:58] It is all in an art is their relationship because now she's,

[00:45:01] she's got to coach him up.

[00:45:02] Remember she's still driven by that competitive spirit.

[00:45:05] And so although she cannot, uh, compete, she has to now live

[00:45:09] through her relationship and the competitiveness of her husband, who

[00:45:13] she will know who she will go on to have a child with and all that good stuff.

[00:45:17] And so, yeah, this becomes her new identity.

[00:45:19] Uh, and you can tell again, you can tell when he's not feeling it on the court,

[00:45:24] she's not paying attention.

[00:45:25] Like she's watching almost like the tennis match straight down the middle.

[00:45:28] Right?

[00:45:28] The ball is flying past her, but in a normal tennis match, and even

[00:45:31] in some of these intense ones during the movie, her head is left

[00:45:34] to right, left, right, left, right.

[00:45:35] Everybody's watching it back and forth, back and forth, back and

[00:45:37] forth, there are moments where she just checked out.

[00:45:39] She's just there so she doesn't get behind.

[00:45:43] Yeah.

[00:45:44] Um, because she knows that he's going through the motions of it and like,

[00:45:50] why should they both be pretending at that point?

[00:45:53] Um, and I love, there's a line like fairly early on in the movie where,

[00:45:59] um, she was like talking about how their daughter enjoyed the hotel rooms.

[00:46:04] And he goes like, he was like, we could just stay here.

[00:46:06] She's like, yeah, we can just be rich people.

[00:46:09] Yes.

[00:46:09] You think you can handle.

[00:46:11] Right.

[00:46:11] Um, that's all there is to life.

[00:46:14] You know, like we let's just be rich and just live here.

[00:46:17] That's it.

[00:46:17] Yeah.

[00:46:18] Mm-hmm.

[00:46:19] Like you can do the foundation full time.

[00:46:22] Um, we could travel or you could be a tennis player.

[00:46:27] You absolute dummy.

[00:46:29] Like what are you like?

[00:46:30] She, she's just, she's so over by that time in her life.

[00:46:35] The fact that.

[00:46:37] You know, her husband who has had these injuries as well,

[00:46:41] not as severe as hers, but who has come back from injuries.

[00:46:44] Has been able to win every grand slam title except for one.

[00:46:49] And that's the U S open.

[00:46:51] Like he's had an incredibly successful career because of her.

[00:46:57] And the idea that now he just wants to give that up without

[00:47:02] acknowledging any of the sacrifices that she has made to even like.

[00:47:07] Be his coach in the first place is just unacceptable to her.

[00:47:12] And so she's becoming less and less attracted to him as time goes by.

[00:47:17] Mm-hmm.

[00:47:17] Yeah.

[00:47:18] And so eventually we'll see art and Tashi talking at a restaurant later on.

[00:47:23] I believe this is where the Applebee's of it all comes in.

[00:47:27] Uh, and he said, Hey, um, you want to be my, like, you want it like

[00:47:33] cold track and be that consistent cold.

[00:47:34] Like, what are we doing here?

[00:47:35] And she's like, do you think that's a good idea based on our history?

[00:47:38] And he's like, it feels like so long ago.

[00:47:41] Um, you know, like that wasn't that long ago.

[00:47:43] I was like, y'all this is, this is, this has been a while.

[00:47:46] Don't get me wrong.

[00:47:47] But like you said, Latonya, these people have a quantum entanglement.

[00:47:50] Like they have been ruining each other's lives since the day they

[00:47:53] laid eyes on each other, right?

[00:47:54] Like they've either been in love with each other.

[00:47:56] They friendship has been lost and found in all kinds of stuff.

[00:48:00] Like, yeah, I think it's a little bit too, too close to home.

[00:48:03] And then she repeats again.

[00:48:04] I never want it to be a home wrecker, but it's clear, Latonya, that the

[00:48:08] friendship does not survive the love triangle.

[00:48:11] Oh yeah.

[00:48:12] Um, I mean, with the exception of a brief time in, uh, like a tournament

[00:48:20] in Atlanta, they don't see each other for eight years or something like that.

[00:48:26] Um, this movie flashbacks from like 13 years, then back to eight years

[00:48:31] from then, and then it like goes back to the match itself that's going on.

[00:48:35] Um, it's just the entire, I feel like the most talk that we get about this

[00:48:44] happens during a scene in a sauna between the two men.

[00:48:48] Yeah.

[00:48:50] We didn't even talk about that, but again, it gets bisexual.

[00:48:53] Okay.

[00:48:54] All right.

[00:48:54] So we were in a sauna.

[00:48:56] My guy Art is in there minding his own business and Patrick comes

[00:49:00] in like, Naki is free.

[00:49:02] Naki is naked.

[00:49:03] You know, like he comes in with just a towel.

[00:49:05] Like the towel.

[00:49:06] I was just like, dog it's again, when you tease the, the homoerotic nature

[00:49:12] of the movie in the trailer and everybody goes crazy, you kind of have

[00:49:16] to put this stuff in the movie, but it really, I'm telling you,

[00:49:20] Latonya, it just, all of it just felt like, like, okay, this scene,

[00:49:24] but make it gayer, you know what I'm saying?

[00:49:25] Like, let's how can we, how can we make this a little, a little

[00:49:28] freaky for the, for the freaks out there who are, who are into this

[00:49:31] kind of stuff and a lot of people were like, yeah, this is what I came

[00:49:34] for, cause they thought it'd be more of this and it's honestly just

[00:49:37] more innuendo than anything.

[00:49:40] Yeah.

[00:49:40] Um, it really is just the ways in which they like work to screw

[00:49:48] each other over mentally.

[00:49:49] Like these are all, um, like aren't those exactly what he's doing

[00:49:54] going in there, just like guns blazing basically.

[00:49:58] Um, and, uh, or Patrick does, and art is just like, listen, I'm

[00:50:05] just visiting here.

[00:50:07] You live here.

[00:50:09] Like this is your level of terrible.

[00:50:13] I'm just making a stop.

[00:50:15] Um, and they, there's this thing about being peers that's really

[00:50:19] important throughout the entirety of this movie, like I'm your peer,

[00:50:23] respect me as like on this level.

[00:50:25] And art does not see Patrick as a peer at all.

[00:50:30] Like he's, he's got the Bentley commercial, you know, like that's

[00:50:34] just on the side of the building as well, you know, game changers,

[00:50:40] game changers.

[00:50:42] Yeah.

[00:50:43] Well, but you, but you're right.

[00:50:44] They've mentioned being peers and yeah, Patrick and, and Tashi,

[00:50:48] well, I'm sorry, uh, Tashi and art, they're peers, you know,

[00:50:51] they're like a power couple in tennis.

[00:50:54] Um, Patrick has not had the same level of success.

[00:50:57] Um, probably due to not having, you know, someone is driven as

[00:51:02] Tashi on his arm, you know, like, uh, seems like she has willed

[00:51:05] the Patrick into this moment.

[00:51:07] Cause Patrick, I mean, uh, art into this moment, cause now that

[00:51:10] the, like art has lost his desire to really play tennis, he's

[00:51:15] struggling, you know, and Patrick has been struggling, but throughout

[00:51:20] this movie, it's clear that if Patrick wants to beat art in tennis, he can.

[00:51:25] Yes.

[00:51:25] But like even, even Tashi points out the just like ridiculousness

[00:51:32] of, of Patrick's life really.

[00:51:37] Um, well there's the scene where he like gets her outside so

[00:51:41] that he could smoke and like she, and kind of like pitch to her

[00:51:45] that she should be his coach.

[00:51:47] And she slaps the hell out of him, which is great.

[00:51:50] Wonderful start to the scene.

[00:51:52] Um, and she's just like, you don't even need to be doing this anymore.

[00:51:58] You can just go to your family and ask them for money or ask them

[00:52:04] for a seat on the board and you can stop doing this pretend poor

[00:52:09] boy routine that you seem to have perfected because you don't want

[00:52:14] to actually do any work in your life.

[00:52:17] Like, what are you doing?

[00:52:18] Like it was clear that it was never an option for Tashi to just

[00:52:23] kind of rest on her laurels.

[00:52:25] That's why she decided to go to college before turning pro so

[00:52:28] that she would have something to fall back on, but like, um,

[00:52:33] she did not grow up in the like country club circuit that these

[00:52:38] two guys grew up in and she couldn't afford to be sent to a tennis boarding

[00:52:42] school.

[00:52:43] So she just kind of sees everything that they have are like these gifts

[00:52:48] that they are just throwing away, like throwing into the face of the tennis

[00:52:52] gods and she will avenge the tennis gods.

[00:52:56] Yeah.

[00:52:56] Um, going to college was a great idea for her because what if something

[00:52:59] happens and you can't play tennis anymore?

[00:53:01] Well, we found out exactly what that looks like, you know, when

[00:53:03] she does hurt her knee.

[00:53:05] Um, but you're right.

[00:53:06] They start off the conversation outside in what can only be

[00:53:10] described as a trash tornado.

[00:53:12] Um, it's a whirlwind of like dust and garbage just flying around in the air.

[00:53:18] They're talking about the idea of her being Patrick's, uh, coach, which

[00:53:22] of course we know art would not go for.

[00:53:25] So the whole, the moment that conversation starts, I'm like, that's

[00:53:28] not this conversation isn't about coaching at all because there are so

[00:53:33] many layers that you'd have to peel back before it would be plausible

[00:53:37] for her to be your coach with the relationship that she currently has

[00:53:40] with her husband, with the relationship that you have with her husband.

[00:53:43] So, um, it seems like, you know, she slaps him.

[00:53:47] It seems like she's on the right track.

[00:53:49] And then the next thing you know, whirlwind and all trash world,

[00:53:53] trash tornado at all.

[00:53:55] They are kissing and making out on the side of the car.

[00:53:58] Next thing you know, they're in the back seat of the car.

[00:54:00] I'm like, all right.

[00:54:01] So Tashi, I've been showing you a lot of love this entire, this entire recap.

[00:54:08] But I know you did.

[00:54:09] Okay.

[00:54:10] So are you a home wrecker if you wreck your own home?

[00:54:13] That's the question.

[00:54:16] You know, cause we don't, I mean, we're, we're almost done with this.

[00:54:18] And we do have to say that of all these people, Zendaya Tashi is

[00:54:23] the one who cheated like she is the one who has done the most egregious

[00:54:26] thing in these relationships to either, with either of these men.

[00:54:31] Okay.

[00:54:32] Listen, you can support women's rights and wrongs, but I'm

[00:54:35] going to call it out because that's a wrong.

[00:54:38] Ma'am go dump your husband.

[00:54:40] You don't even like him.

[00:54:43] Maybe she would like the Morphe weren't being so pathetic all the time.

[00:54:47] Right?

[00:54:47] Start competing.

[00:54:48] Look, Patrick's out here competing and look at what she's doing with him.

[00:54:51] She's, she is literally doing what she said she wouldn't do.

[00:54:56] She was like, you think I'm going to throw it all away for you.

[00:54:58] You're your woman.

[00:54:59] You are, you're in front of your own billboard for a way better

[00:55:03] car having sex in the car with a man who lives in his car lives in said car.

[00:55:09] Yep.

[00:55:09] That is correct.

[00:55:11] Like Zendaya, you make too much money to be having sex in cars.

[00:55:15] You know, it's like, let's just call it what it is.

[00:55:17] Like there are limos built for what you that you're doing.

[00:55:20] Uh, I don't even remember what type of, uh, Chevy Cavalier that was

[00:55:24] that they were sitting in the back of, but I'm pretty sure that like,

[00:55:27] I know a guy who lived in one of those as well, you know?

[00:55:30] And so I was like, Zendaya do better.

[00:55:32] Like this is the first time she's ever been in a car like that in real life.

[00:55:34] Um, but yeah, they, they do it.

[00:55:37] They do the do.

[00:55:38] Um, and then we get the flash forward now to the first time that art and

[00:55:43] Patrick have seen each other since that day.

[00:55:44] So mind you, we're doing, we, we talk about the, the, uh, the tennis match.

[00:55:50] The first match, Patrick just packs art up the second match art wins.

[00:55:55] Um, but Patrick is taunting him.

[00:55:58] I was like sitting next to him.

[00:56:01] Oh yeah.

[00:56:01] The set.

[00:56:01] I'm sorry.

[00:56:03] I'm saying match.

[00:56:04] I mean set yet.

[00:56:05] Look, the tennis pros out there, like are like, boo, Buddhist man.

[00:56:07] He doesn't always talk about, duh.

[00:56:09] I, I watched tennis for the plot, the plot being Serena Williams.

[00:56:13] So, uh, I watched this movie for the plot too.

[00:56:16] Uh, so yeah, so they're, they're between sets.

[00:56:19] Uh, they've now split the sets.

[00:56:21] I think that's what you say when one person is one one and the

[00:56:23] other person is one, the other one.

[00:56:24] Right.

[00:56:25] Um, and then there's some taunting going on.

[00:56:27] Patrick's eating a banana and staring right at him.

[00:56:29] And I'm like, why, you know,

[00:56:33] talk for a real quick second about the line judge, the newer shelf.

[00:56:37] Like the one that we've hired her.

[00:56:39] Yeah.

[00:56:40] This empire is sick of their shit.

[00:56:42] Okay.

[00:56:42] Sick of it.

[00:56:43] So he is being played by Darnell Appling who is Zendaya's assistant.

[00:56:49] Oh, okay.

[00:56:50] Cool.

[00:56:51] Cause he's fed up throughout the entire, the entire tennis match.

[00:56:57] I wish that tennis had judges like this.

[00:57:02] I wish this was the empire that people got.

[00:57:04] Are you kidding?

[00:57:05] That would be amazing.

[00:57:07] Yeah.

[00:57:07] No, he's enough to tune in because he's not going to let

[00:57:10] you get away with nothing.

[00:57:11] He's going to judge you.

[00:57:11] He's giving you judging eyes every time you mess up.

[00:57:14] He like, he's in the match just as much as they are.

[00:57:17] He knows what is going on.

[00:57:18] Cause he looks right at Tachi.

[00:57:20] Right.

[00:57:21] They start eating that banana and he looking at her like,

[00:57:23] girl, what did you do?

[00:57:24] You know, uh, look, it pays to be Zendaya's, uh, assistant.

[00:57:28] You see a lot of things.

[00:57:30] And so, um, so yeah, so we got down to the point where it's

[00:57:33] basically, um, it's a, it's a tie.

[00:57:36] Um, and, um, now we see Patrick pull out an old move that, uh,

[00:57:42] we've seen him do before and that his tennis serve is,

[00:57:45] is looking a little different.

[00:57:46] He does this thing where he signals the same signal he did a long time

[00:57:51] ago, uh, that, you know, him and Zendaya they have done it again.

[00:57:55] He's like, Hey, if I had any questions, if you have any questions

[00:57:59] about whether I've slept with your wife, here's the answer.

[00:58:03] And for a second, I'm thinking, Oh, art's not going to be able to handle this.

[00:58:07] But then the competition kicks in and even Tachi has to sit up

[00:58:13] because she's like, Oh, they play.

[00:58:15] And now what happened?

[00:58:16] They, I mean, they are in it.

[00:58:18] I mean, keep in mind that the night before when art was like

[00:58:22] basically just like praying to Tachi to please, please like this

[00:58:28] some like 90s level Joe to see begging.

[00:58:31] Yeah.

[00:58:33] It was like, um, and he's like, Oh, like, he's just a sad pathetic man.

[00:58:40] And he's like, well, how are you going to look at me if I lose to

[00:58:43] damn again?

[00:58:43] And she's like, I'm gonna look at you exactly the same way as

[00:58:46] I'm looking at you right now.

[00:58:48] And her face doesn't change.

[00:58:49] She doesn't look like I'm looking at you as like someone who loves

[00:58:52] you and adores you.

[00:58:53] She's not like, she's not like cradling his face like babe.

[00:58:56] Look, I'm gonna look at you just like this.

[00:58:59] Right.

[00:59:00] Because that's by the way, if you lose this match, I'm going to leave you.

[00:59:04] I'm leaving.

[00:59:05] Bye.

[00:59:06] You know, cause that's the vibe again.

[00:59:08] I'm gonna look at you just the same way I'm looking at you right now.

[00:59:10] I was like, well, that doesn't sound supportive at all.

[00:59:14] You know, I really think I got a witness one.

[00:59:17] And I'm thinking, but, but art, you're the prize.

[00:59:21] This lady has nothing going for her.

[00:59:23] You're the prize now.

[00:59:24] You, you're the guy.

[00:59:26] She can't even play tennis.

[00:59:28] Why you let this woman cheat on you?

[00:59:30] And now you out here praying for her life.

[00:59:32] I'll play, I'll play you in tennis for your heart.

[00:59:34] This ain't love and basketball.

[00:59:35] Like why did we learn from the mistakes of love and basketball?

[00:59:39] Look at you out here with your clown nose on, on this tennis court.

[00:59:43] Listen, the tennis movie is the sex it is.

[00:59:47] And the tennis got really, really good.

[00:59:50] Really good.

[00:59:51] After this started happening.

[00:59:53] Yeah.

[00:59:53] Two men finally did what they have been trying to do for a whole two hour and

[00:59:58] eight minute movie, which is makes them day and scream.

[01:00:01] Yeah.

[01:00:01] And she's in it and she is in it.

[01:00:05] And I mean, it's back and forth.

[01:00:06] Boom, boom, boom, boom.

[01:00:07] I'm talking about where it's all like this is, this is, um, I love

[01:00:10] when movies get really invested in just like one scene, right?

[01:00:13] Where you can tell they threw it at all into something.

[01:00:16] It reminds me of maybe like the last scene and whiplash, you know, where

[01:00:19] they're playing, they're playing the song whiplash and you're like, you're just

[01:00:22] like, oh my God, like what's happening?

[01:00:24] You know, and then it's silence.

[01:00:26] That's the same type of moment that I was having here where we're just

[01:00:29] like back, forward, back, boom.

[01:00:31] He's sliding over here.

[01:00:31] He's sitting over here.

[01:00:32] I'm just like, Oh my God, what's about to happen.

[01:00:35] And then we get this moment where I think it's art jumps up and he's

[01:00:39] going to, I don't know if they call it a spike in a tennis slam, the ball.

[01:00:43] I don't know.

[01:00:44] Um, uh, an overhead, overhead, like he's jumped up in air.

[01:00:48] It's a slow motion.

[01:00:49] Like, Oh my God, he's about to do it.

[01:00:51] And he does, but he essentially is caught by, uh, by Patrick.

[01:00:56] Yeah.

[01:00:57] They hit the net and I'm like, that is that, is that all?

[01:01:02] Like at that point they're just like, they're embracing.

[01:01:05] Yeah.

[01:01:06] And then the movie goes up.

[01:01:12] I'm like, so we want, we, we like, first of all, didn't we win?

[01:01:19] Yeah, we did all win.

[01:01:21] Yes.

[01:01:21] Yes.

[01:01:21] Exactly.

[01:01:22] We won.

[01:01:22] This was a really good two hours of time spent at the movies.

[01:01:26] I feel like we all won.

[01:01:28] Um, the other thing is I feel like everybody starts to get back, you

[01:01:35] know, the people that they, they need back in their like orbit, like

[01:01:40] these two men needed to be enmeshed in each other in one way or another.

[01:01:45] Right.

[01:01:46] And I feel like, I feel like I'm seeing Tashi needed to see the love, like

[01:01:53] the love of her life being tennis where I feel like the love of, um,

[01:02:01] Patrick's life is art.

[01:02:04] The love of art's life is Tashi and the love of Tashi's life is tennis.

[01:02:10] Gotcha.

[01:02:11] Shots where they're just collapsing literally onto each other in exhaustion,

[01:02:17] heaving even, um, they, they all are getting what they want in this moment.

[01:02:24] Right.

[01:02:25] Because art wins the match or he loses.

[01:02:31] I believe that art wins the match.

[01:02:33] I think that this is honestly a point that they either have to

[01:02:37] replay or that they would give to Patrick because he hit the net and you,

[01:02:42] like in tennis when you touch the net, that's like, you lose a point.

[01:02:46] Um, so like, uh, but I think ultimately this does give the fire back

[01:02:54] to art that he needed to continue on and to at least get the career grand

[01:03:01] slam, which is to get a win one of all of the grand slams.

[01:03:04] He's won multiple of some, but like none of the U S open.

[01:03:09] Gotcha.

[01:03:10] So, throw a poll.

[01:03:11] That's where we are by the end of this.

[01:03:13] Like this was, this is called it.

[01:03:14] Yeah.

[01:03:15] I think Lily has a new daddy to me.

[01:03:18] Yeah.

[01:03:19] And look, honestly, knowing how we got here, I support it because art

[01:03:25] can't perform without Patrick.

[01:03:27] Patrick taught him how to perform.

[01:03:28] You know what I'm saying?

[01:03:29] And Patrick, he likes Tashi, but he's also kind of a scumbag and you know,

[01:03:37] she doesn't like him like that.

[01:03:39] But I think the three of them seemingly worked pretty well as a group, as

[01:03:43] long as they can come to the, you know, the understanding that, you

[01:03:46] know, we are all in a relationship and we also have to play tennis or

[01:03:50] she's going to leave us.

[01:03:51] And so I think, uh, yeah, trouble it up, make it happen.

[01:03:55] And then I think maybe at that point we get challenges too.

[01:03:58] Challenging revenge.

[01:04:00] So an interesting thing about this.

[01:04:01] Did you see past lives last year?

[01:04:03] This Lee, but you know a little bit about, well, I'll tell you.

[01:04:08] Okay.

[01:04:09] So the reason I'm bringing this up is because Celine song is the

[01:04:12] wife of Justin Kurtz Zeke's, who is, uh, the writer responsible

[01:04:19] for the movie challengers.

[01:04:21] Okay.

[01:04:21] Um, and Celine songs like Academy award nominated, um, opus, just

[01:04:28] a gorgeous movie past lives, which you have not seen it and you are

[01:04:33] in the longing, um, and relationships and threes and throuples.

[01:04:39] Then you should definitely see it.

[01:04:41] But like the fact that she came out with past lives one year, and then

[01:04:45] the next year he comes out with this, this bisexual tennis throuple

[01:04:50] movie, I just, I like to know, I would like to have a conversation.

[01:04:56] You know?

[01:04:57] Um,

[01:04:58] I just want, I just want to talk and see like, see what's going on.

[01:05:02] Hmm.

[01:05:03] Cause it does feel like a little coded.

[01:05:06] Does this feel like y'all are talking to each other?

[01:05:07] These are the signals like, like when Art and Patrick play tennis,

[01:05:10] you know, it was like, Oh, well, what are y'all trying to say?

[01:05:12] What do you mean by that?

[01:05:13] Um, so yeah, throuple I'm here for it.

[01:05:16] Let them, let them all be together.

[01:05:18] Cause, uh, you know, we had to talk about these people's ages.

[01:05:21] She's telling this man to go back to his family and be, and get on the board.

[01:05:24] He's like 31, you know, that this man is not, these are not old

[01:05:27] people who live long as lives.

[01:05:29] The way that they talk about it.

[01:05:31] Cause like you do have to, like with sports, your like longevity

[01:05:36] is really like short.

[01:05:38] So the way that they're talking about, like, it's embarrassing to be out

[01:05:42] there doing this when you're 40.

[01:05:44] It's like, geez.

[01:05:45] Like God has a knock on the door.

[01:05:49] Uh, but yeah, it's like, uh, yeah.

[01:05:50] Embarrassing.

[01:05:51] Yeah, sure.

[01:05:52] I'm embarrassed too, right?

[01:05:53] Uh, we all are.

[01:05:53] Yeah.

[01:05:54] Look, 31, this is the perfect time to pop off a little, a little

[01:05:58] throuple relationship with some rich folks.

[01:06:00] You know what I'm saying?

[01:06:01] That's what rich people really do.

[01:06:04] Right.

[01:06:04] They spend their money so they can do the freaky stuff like this.

[01:06:07] And so, um, yeah.

[01:06:09] In beautiful places.

[01:06:11] With beautiful people.

[01:06:12] Uh, again, very attractive cast, very rich.

[01:06:14] Uh, and then, uh, also a little freaky.

[01:06:16] So, uh, far as I'm concerned, I give this movie two thumbs up.

[01:06:20] Latonya, you were like the person I go to about the Oscar buzz.

[01:06:24] Does this feel like something that's going to be in those conversations?

[01:06:27] You know, I think it might be.

[01:06:29] I've, uh, read an, a Vulture article where, uh, two different, like

[01:06:35] Vulture punents were kind of talking about what they thought the.

[01:06:39] Outlook was for this.

[01:06:41] A lot of like people are starting to say that Zendaya this run that

[01:06:46] Zendaya is on reminds them of a younger Julia Roberts.

[01:06:51] Right.

[01:06:51] Hmm.

[01:06:52] Okay.

[01:06:53] Um, and so this is incredibly early in the cycle in terms of Oscar movies,

[01:07:02] but I totally still see, I can still see them doing like a re-release,

[01:07:06] especially because this movie I think has now surpassed every other

[01:07:09] Luca Guadagnino movie in terms of box office, um, and like

[01:07:13] opening weekends and stuff anyway.

[01:07:15] So I can see them doing a re-release of this closer to award season, just

[01:07:20] to be like, you know, remember how much you love Zendaya?

[01:07:24] Um, remember, remember how the reason that any of the, like any of you

[01:07:29] enjoyed any of the stuff in this movie and how out there it was

[01:07:32] is because her money helped make it.

[01:07:35] Yeah.

[01:07:36] I can see her pushing herself, um, in that way and like gearing up for

[01:07:42] an Oscar's campaign and she's due for an Oscar's campaign, honestly.

[01:07:46] Yeah.

[01:07:47] I think there's a kind of this type of film that can do that.

[01:07:49] You know, it's, it's out of the box.

[01:07:50] It's not something we see all the time.

[01:07:52] It's with, uh, you know, like you said, or like, I wouldn't

[01:07:54] even call her a rising superstar.

[01:07:56] Like it is with a huge name.

[01:07:58] Um, and it's very attractive people and they're doing something

[01:08:00] like you said that we normally don't see in these types of films.

[01:08:03] And so, um, I think that it's just primed and ready to win at least,

[01:08:07] you know, SAG award or something like that.

[01:08:09] You know what I'm saying?

[01:08:09] So something like that.

[01:08:10] Yeah.

[01:08:10] Something like that.

[01:08:12] Yeah.

[01:08:12] Something for producing for sure.

[01:08:14] Um, and cinematography.

[01:08:16] Cinematography.

[01:08:17] Yes.

[01:08:18] Um, uh, yeah, I think, I think definitely see that happening, especially

[01:08:23] with someone like Luca at the helm.

[01:08:25] Like he's just an easy director to put out there and be like, Hey,

[01:08:29] um, remember how he only makes the most ridiculous stuff?

[01:08:33] Well, we were the ones that brought it to you.

[01:08:36] Um, and I know Zendaya has technically campaigned for Oscars

[01:08:40] before she's been in other Oscar nominated movies, but she hasn't been

[01:08:45] nominated yet for like any, any award that wasn't just being a part of an

[01:08:52] ensemble.

[01:08:53] Um, and a lot of people are saying that June 2 is going to be the

[01:08:58] thing that does that for her.

[01:09:00] I'm not sure.

[01:09:01] Uh, if I think that is the case so I can see a good case for challengers.

[01:09:08] All right.

[01:09:08] Well, we will see.

[01:09:09] Uh, Latonya, is there anything else we missed in the movie or did we kind of

[01:09:13] sum up all the big moments?

[01:09:16] Um, I think the final thing I will ask is what did you think of the, I'm taking

[01:09:23] such good care of my little white boys line.

[01:09:27] I just that I just yelled again.

[01:09:28] That's one of those things that Zendaya can get away with saying, and a

[01:09:31] lot of people cannot, you know, um, it was like, I don't know, but it's

[01:09:35] like, but are you taking care of them Zendaya?

[01:09:38] Cause it seems like you're ruining their life.

[01:09:39] You know, I'm just saying, uh, which again, Zendaya sign me up the ruin my

[01:09:43] life.

[01:09:43] It's fine.

[01:09:44] Um, but no, that was a great line.

[01:09:47] There were so many great lines in the movie.

[01:09:48] I thought this movie was probably funnier than it probably seems at

[01:09:52] first glance.

[01:09:52] I think it's very funny, very smart.

[01:09:55] Uh, like I said, very different than what anything I've ever

[01:09:57] experienced before a scene.

[01:09:58] And so I enjoyed it.

[01:09:59] I'll recommend it to whomever and hopefully you all the listeners

[01:10:03] enjoyed this too.

[01:10:04] And, uh, enjoy this recap.

[01:10:06] Uh, Latonya, this was so much fun.

[01:10:07] Thank you for coming.

[01:10:09] Thank you so much for having me.

[01:10:11] I will talk about this movie for hours and hours as I have done now.

[01:10:16] Um, so I'm, I feel like I've really like completed everything

[01:10:20] I was meant to do today.

[01:10:22] Yeah.

[01:10:22] And I was, I noticed, I talked to you about this earlier in the, in

[01:10:25] the week, but the book of Clarence is about to be released on Netflix soon.

[01:10:30] Uh, I believe it gets released like on the 11th or something like that.

[01:10:33] So, uh, if you don't mind joining me, I would love to talk about it.

[01:10:36] Cause I've seen the beginning of it.

[01:10:38] I think that was going to be one of our projects for, uh, yeah, for, uh,

[01:10:43] the olden days back on the connect on Posture Recaps and, uh, we ran out

[01:10:47] of runway and so, um, Mari won't be here, but I would love to talk

[01:10:50] about it with you if you so choose.

[01:10:53] I would love to talk about that movie with you.

[01:10:55] I'm excited that it's coming to Netflix, uh, because everyone knows

[01:10:59] that that's kind of like the clearing house where everyone gets to see

[01:11:02] everything.

[01:11:03] Yeah.

[01:11:03] And so people will be talking about it, hopefully.

[01:11:05] And then hopefully you and I can drop that so that there's a companion

[01:11:08] to podcast to go with it until then, LaTonya, where can people find

[01:11:12] you what you have working, uh, working on?

[01:11:15] Um, I am covering the HBO Max show, The Sympathizer, uh, for Silent

[01:11:22] Podcasts with Daombe Calhoun.

[01:11:24] That show.

[01:11:26] Wow.

[01:11:27] Um, Robert Downey Jr plays four different characters.

[01:11:31] Hmm.

[01:11:32] And you feel every moment of it.

[01:11:34] Um, it's really interesting.

[01:11:37] Park Chan Woof though.

[01:11:38] So at least the first three episodes are his directing.

[01:11:42] Um, so check us out there.

[01:11:44] I'm doing Pop Cultured.

[01:11:46] That's where I released, uh, the first challenges podcast that I did

[01:11:51] for Brazilian Dragon along with Felipe.

[01:11:54] Um, so check out that coverage.

[01:11:56] Check out, um, my coverage of, um, Top Chef, the Top Chef Rihap Up.

[01:12:03] Um, where we welcome, um, Owen, Owen of Survivor fame, uh, to our

[01:12:09] most recent episode about the show.

[01:12:12] So I'm very excited about, um, podcasting with him and then getting

[01:12:16] to meet him in like a week when we're in Chicago.

[01:12:20] Um, so yeah, I'm just looking forward to all of that.

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[01:12:38] Well, not everything.

[01:12:39] Not everything.

[01:12:40] I can't show them everything.

[01:12:41] Some of the stuff is left for the challengers only.

[01:12:45] Yes, exactly.

[01:12:47] Yeah.

[01:12:48] To be clear, it gets real in those three seasons.

[01:12:49] The RHAP Only fans.

[01:12:52] Um, yeah, nah, I won't be, y'all know me.

[01:12:55] Y'all know I ain't participating in that stuff, but LaTanya gonna do it.

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[01:13:33] And I had a blast and go check that out and I'll be plugging that until

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[01:13:41] Yeah, it was good though.

[01:13:42] It really was.

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[01:14:21] I don't know.

[01:14:21] R.H.A.P.

[01:14:22] Sasha and I are talking about below deck.

[01:14:24] I'm talking to Rob about survivor on club condo, uh, on our club

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