I’m Unpoppable: Netflix's Pop The Balloon Ep. 5 Recap

[00:00:17] What's up and welcome back again to Recap Kickback. It's me, Chappelle, and we're back again to talk about more of Netflix's Pop The Balloon Live. It's episode five and with me again to talk about this balloon popping, a very bisexual episode. It's Chantel. Chantel, welcome.

[00:00:36] Hi. I was very surprised by it being a bisexual episode. Interesting choice by Netflix. And I'm interested in talking about it. I just realized I didn't blow up a balloon, so I will probably blow up a balloon at some point. Yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe. I mean, I don't know. Like, I think if we're gonna pop, we gotta blow up the balloon. But if it's just, like, if it's a lock, then maybe you don't have to do it. It'll be a symbolic locking.

[00:01:01] But we'll talk it through because if you've been keeping up, Chantel and I have been tracking Netflix's Pop The Balloon as we have both been fans of the YouTube version of Pop The Balloon. So we came to check it out on Netflix. We started on the Netflix podcast. And here we are five episodes in our Recap Kickback talking about these daters, talking about their experiences, and then also getting in each other's business, as we like to say here.

[00:01:51] Yep. Of both genders, or at least two genders. And then we get to see what happens when people start, you know, revealing their red flags, their ics and all that stuff and see who remains. But Chantel, the first thing that stood out to me as a problem with this format was that it just looks like they found just, like, any bisexual they could find. Like, why is the age range of these people, like, 23 to 35? You know? Well, they kind of always do that. We have noticed that there's always the young ones.

[00:02:21] Like, I think last week it was 24 and 36. You know what I mean? Right. They kind of seem to like having a diverse age range as well. Now, of course, I agree with you with representation, having the queer population being represented on TV. Everybody deserves to find love. I totally, totally am with that. But my issue with it is that I feel like Netflix is casting out too many nets. You know what I mean?

[00:02:49] It's like, you know, you learn in marketing or if you're trying to promote, you kind of have to focus on one thing and maybe do that well instead of spreading and splitting your focus. Because I think if there was any sort of audience that was coming from what the four episodes before were offering, they might not be the same audience that episode five would be to watch. And they might have just lost their audience. You know what I mean? They might have gained a new audience, maybe.

[00:03:18] But, like, I feel as though they should have stuck to one thing. And that's what I think is the popularity with the original Pop the Balloon is she did one thing. Black folks looking for love. That's it. And it was successful. And I think that they should have maybe realized that part of the success was being very clear and focused on the intention of who her target market was. No, that's a good point.

[00:03:43] I think that if you look at the show and you're coming in being like, I'm single and I want to see what the dating pool looks like for me. Right. So you're probably coming in and you're looking for your population. And so the straight people are going to see that in the first four episodes. But in this episode, if they're not, you know, they're not bisexual or queer, maybe they're going to look at this and be like, oh, this isn't for me. Now, obviously, bisexual people can date whoever they would like to as far as gender concerned, like, you know, whichever one. And so it doesn't really write them off.

[00:04:13] But I can definitely see what you're saying where it's like, OK, I came here for this thing. And now you're throwing in an extra added bonus into the mix, but not necessarily something I might not want to sit here and watch for 30 minutes because it doesn't pertain to me. And so maybe that's probably what what was going on. But I enjoyed it for sure. Because, again, you know, I like I like variety. I very much would like for the show to take big swings if you're going to do something. But also, like like you said, have a focus and a clear point of view.

[00:04:41] And this show, to me, the issue is the point of view. I think sometimes it's a love show, a dating show. At times it's just the hookup kind of show. And yeah, and sometimes and then sometimes it's just which reality star can we get on here to publicize whatever they have going on or to draw attention to what they have going on passively. And we will talk about that a lot in this episode. So five episodes in Chantel. And yeah, we're still switching it up.

[00:05:07] Yeah, we're still switching it up because I just don't think that they know who their identity is, like who they are, what they're trying to be, what they're trying to do. And I think it's a lack of focus is it's just a problem for me. It makes it just too disjointed. I don't know what I'm coming here for. I watched it. I enjoyed it to a certain extent. But I don't know. I just yeah, it was just it was only OK, though.

[00:05:33] Well, let's talk about these OK daters and let's get inside each other's business because we have a new slew of daters and we have a new lineup as well. And so our first dater, who I'm sure you're familiar with, is Demi from The Bachelor franchise and more recently got to get out. Chantel, are you familiar with Demi from previous shows? Of course. She was on Colton's season of The Bachelor.

[00:06:01] Then she was on, I believe, two seasons of Bachelor in Paradise. On one of the seasons, she did end up leaving with or no, a girl that she was dating before came to The Bachelor in Paradise and then they left together. So she was dating a girl. Her name was Christian for a while. And then I think she go back. She might have went back on Bachelor in Paradise or something or maybe hosting or can't come back on as like, you know, personality. And then obviously I saw her and got to get out.

[00:06:30] So, I mean, Demi was fine. She was definitely personality. She's quirky, kind of funny. Recently, she did come out as being on the spectrum. And so that was kind of a big part of, you know, her shift in her presence online and in the public eye. And so, yeah, she's OK. Yeah. Yeah, she's fine. I didn't know who she was a month ago and now I've seen her on three different shows. You know, I think that was this.

[00:07:01] Well, no, I've seen her on two shows and I've heard about her on three different shows because I've now heard about the, you know, whatever. But, but yeah, it's like she's I think she's having a moment. You know, I think she's kind of making her rounds in the reality TV sphere again. Like I'm sure Colton season was years ago. But I mean, for her to still be front of mind, I think that's a good thing for somebody who's making a career as a content creator, as she will tell us in this episode. As you said, she's also spreading autism awareness as she is on the spectrum.

[00:07:28] And she's 30 from Texas, currently lives in L.A. And what she's looking for, Chantel, she likes to be fed. Now, this will be a point of contention amongst these first lineup of daters because she wants to be fed and everybody's not feeders. Some people are the the feedie, the fed, the fed. Chantel, do you want to be fed? Are you a cooker? Do you like to be cooked for? I like both, to be honest.

[00:07:55] I know that's like a really generic answer, but I love going out to dinner. I love when people make me things. When I go home, it's so fun because like my mom loves making me food. I'm like, I know I can cook for myself, but she loves making me food and I love accepting it, you know. But then also I do because of like I've worked in restaurants and I do go out to restaurants all the time. I like making good food because seeing someone happy with somebody that's something that I've made, it also feels good to me.

[00:08:24] So I'm a person that when my one of my love language is acts of service. I do feel like making food for someone is an act of service. So I do love and love to give and receive that act. Your mama Jamaican, huh? She be cooking. Okay. What'd she be cooking? That's me too. Act in selfish, you know. That's because I'm ever in an area. That's the treat that she always makes me is act in selfish. Okay. Okay. Write that down. Yeah.

[00:08:52] If I'm ever in an area and I'm like, hey, Chantel, tell your mama to throw something on the like, yeah, hook me up. You know what I'm saying? That'll definitely work for me. She loves you. So she probably would. Yay. That works. Mom, if you're listening, this high. Me, I do like to eat. I do. Like I do. But I don't necessarily need to be cooked for. I think that as long as we are eating, you know what I'm saying? Like I don't really care how the food gets to me. If I got to cook it, if you got to cook it, if we got to go out to eat, I don't really care as long as I'm eating.

[00:09:21] Now, the problem is I eat a lot. Like I am a fat boy. Okay. Like I just, I love it. I just love food. I wake up thinking about food. I go to sleep thinking about food sometimes. And it's just a thing that I do. So you're not going to eat a lot. Then that's fine. Just stay out of my way while I do it. You know what I'm saying? So I don't really have a huge issue with this, but she does seem like she's looking for someone to cook. She's not going to cook. Her mom was in prison and never taught her how to cook. And she also talks about some red flags.

[00:09:49] And her red flag is basically other content creators. If you are trying to be TikTok famous, if you have an Instagram that you're trying to promote or whatever, she wants you to know that her side comes first. And we get a lot of pops after this comment about social media. What did you think about this comment, though? She wants her Instagram to be the primary focus. I think she was subtly saying she doesn't want to clout chase her. Right?

[00:10:15] Because like if somebody wants to date her because she has like, I don't know, a million followers on Instagram or whatever. You know, I think like if somebody wants to use her as a stepping stone, that's kind of would give me the ick as well. You know, so it's kind of like I wouldn't really want to date another actor because like there might be a little bit of a competitive thing. I don't know. Or like, you know, oh, they're getting a lot of work. Not that I wouldn't want to feel happy for them. Maybe like you'd feel like, well, what about me?

[00:10:43] Like, so I think that she I think there's a combination of things going on with her. I think she doesn't necessarily want someone to like latch onto her and try to clout chase. And then I think she also doesn't want to compete with somebody for the space. Yeah, this wouldn't bother me at all. Don't be TikTok famous. Leave me alone. You know, like I'm good. I don't have to. I'm a firm believer that we don't have to have the same. Would you take the videos? Would you be the Instagram boyfriend? You do. No, see, that's the thing. You do you. I don't have to. I don't have to be a part of that.

[00:11:11] You know, one thing I've learned, Chantelle, is that I have very niche interests. You know, I'm here watching a ton of reality TV. I love Survivor. You know, it's not a lot. Back in the day, it wasn't a lot of black folks watching these shows with us. You know what I'm saying? So I've come to terms with some of this stuff I'm like by myself. And that's OK. You know, I don't need you to come enjoy the events with me. I don't need you to watch the show with me. We don't have to sit down and if we can, that's perfect. But if not, that's fine.

[00:11:40] You know, there's some couples that host a podcast together or like the five for five with Rob and Nicole. Like, would you ever want to do something like that? Maybe if she's down for that, like if she likes it. But what I'm saying is don't go out of your way to pretend like you like something that I like. Let me enjoy my stuff and then we can enjoy each other whenever you want to. But like, you can enjoy your stuff. You know, if you like to garden and do all kinds of stuff outside, go have fun. I have allergies. I'll be inside.

[00:12:07] But if you expect for me to be out there with the shovel or if you expect for me to be in the background with the camera on your for your Instagram reels, I'm not the guy. I'm not him. You know, so, you know, this didn't sound awful to me, but we did get a lot of pops. We lose Carousel 29. She says. Do you recognize her? No, I don't. Where is this woman from? Sexy Beast. Then how did you recognize her? Because they were wearing, which prosthetic was she wearing? I can't remember which one.

[00:12:34] But she then went on to Perfect Match season one and she left dating Joey, Joey Sasso from Oh, you don't watch The Circle. But yeah, but it was a winner of I think it was season one of that. And so they dated for a while, actually. And she was besties with Francesca. You know, Francesca. She was on the original Too Hot to Handle. She's Canadian.

[00:13:05] She was. Yeah. So they were on the same season of Perfect Match and they were like really good friends on that show. Anyways. So. No, I definitely did not recognize her at all. I'm glad you did though. Like I got recognizing somebody from Sexy Beast is crazy. You know, but I was that was such a good pool. I thought that was that's so cool. Yeah. She was the panda in Sexy Beast. I know you watched that show. So I think you covered it. You covered it.

[00:13:33] I definitely watched it and covered it. But I'm like, I'm always shocked when other people did because Sexy Beast felt like it was a very COVID show. You know, like a show that you kind of had to be in a special place and time to actually get that. Even the fact that they filmed it, it was very COVID too. Um, but let me see if I can find a picture of Carousel on Sexy Beast, because if you haven't seen Sexy Beast, the premise is that they are dating, but it's like blind dating.

[00:13:58] And to make sure that you're looking for love and not, um, you know, physical attractiveness, they're wearing masks and costumes. And so this is Carousel on Sexy Beast as the panda. You recognize the panda though. Yeah. I've seen this panda before. Definitely. But I had Carousel. So, okay, cool. Well, we got another pop star in the mix. We will have a few more to talk about in this episode as well. Um, next we have Destiny. She pops because she's a bad cook.

[00:14:28] She says, um, you know, I need somebody to cook for me. I like to be fed too. And now the two of them start bonding over not wanting to cook for somebody. I felt like Demi had a lot of chemistry with some of the people that, that popped their balloons for her. I really felt like they should have given her a little bit more time. I do too. I mean, I definitely, I think she's super cute. I loved her dress personally. And I felt that like, even if you, I mean, I guess the purpose is to pop your balloon, whatever.

[00:14:57] Like that's the name of the show. But I kind of would just be like, oh, let me see how this goes. Maybe I'll go on a date with her. Like she's cute enough that her red flags are not that bad. Like, is it really that horrible that she doesn't want to date another influencer? Like, it's not that bad that she wants to eat food that you cook. Like, that's not that bad. But anyways. One thing I noticed was that the more that people pop their balloons and started to question her, the more nervous she got.

[00:15:24] You can kind of tell that like, maybe it's like some social awkwardness started to kick in because she starts rambling. And I think the more she starts to ramble, the more balloons would pop and people would start questioning. And they're like, I think I can get out of here. You know, again, this is the first dater of the entire episode. So we know there are other people coming. And I do think that maybe in the first date, you're a little bit more conservative about, okay, is this somebody I'm really going to go out on a limb with? Or do I want to see what's potentially coming next? At least that's how I felt.

[00:15:51] So people were willing to take a risk on passing for Demi so they could see what the other options were. Fair. One thing that I wish that they would do, and this might even help solve any of these episodes. Yes, I was saying that I think they should be focused on one target market. But if they're not, I think if they were more focused on actually building connections, I think that they would also have a better hit. Right? If like, so if it was all queer people that potentially could be interested in each other,

[00:16:19] because like, I wouldn't necessarily aesthetically put any of these people together. So I'm like, so there's that. And then like, all of a sudden, none of their values meet up. They don't really live in the same state. Like, you know, there's just so many roadblocks that I'm like, if they tried harder to find a match, I think that the show would be more successful. And then it would be like more dramatic if like, oh my God, I thought we were really getting along. And then the balloon gets popped. Like, really? I don't know. It'd be better, I think. So. Yeah.

[00:16:47] We also didn't get any updates on anybody in the past that we, you know, we really liked that. But yeah. Yeah. So I, I too, I kind of wish that they would focus more on finding some compatible people because like I said, Demi got a lot of pops so early on that you wonder if they hadn't popped. Maybe they were more compatible. We just didn't find out. Nelson is 32. He will pop. He says he's thick and he likes to eat. And she says, oh yeah, cool. I think the cooking should be about 70% to 30% cooking.

[00:17:16] He said, nah, I'm good on that. Uh, and so, yeah, he's like, I'm not doing math all the time. Like, cause you want me to do most of the cooking and I'm not about that life. Um, Serafina also pops. She says she's looking for someone who will match her freak, but also will match the cooking situation. She says 50, 50 is what she's looking for. Then Chantel, we get Winnie from the trust. I was like, Hey, who is she? And then I was like, I figured it out.

[00:17:44] I feel like people didn't give the trust enough credit. You remember the show. I, of course you do. Yeah. I think the trust was pretty good. It was good. It was good. Nobody talks about it. We rarely see these people popping up on other shows. Justice for Winnie and Tolu. Well, Tolu came up on, um, Perfect Match. Everybody's on Perfect Match, apparently. Cause if you've got the sexy beast people on there, they don't care. Put, put Tolu on the traitors, coward. Cowards. I would love her on the traitors. Yeah.

[00:18:12] Um, has she, is she someone that's going to be coming on this show? I feel like she's in another show or she's supposed to come on another show. I don't know. But anyways, I was really surprised or like happily surprised to see Winnie here. And I was like, okay, this is fun. Like I wanted to see her getting more opportunity. Cause she was a, I thought she was a star from that show. Yeah. She from, she from the hometown too. I was like, okay, you're from, you're from the area. She lives in Houston. Okay. I was like, let me go see about it. Um, so she is distraught.

[00:18:42] Um, Demi is distraught because she sees that Winnie has popped. I would have felt the same way. Like girl, no blow your balloon back up. What would happen? What'd I say? Apparently Winnie was not down with wanting to be in competition with another influencer when it comes to brand building. And so this does feel like, again, I think if Demi could have it back, she would have definitely like not asked that question because it really eliminated some, what looked like people who could have been, uh, at least interested in going on a date with her.

[00:19:11] Well, maybe they're popping for the plot, but like, they know that they can, you know, they can figure it out if they really wanted to date after the show. So maybe, you know, they're trying to make a more interesting episode. You know, all these reality stars are producing their own episodes, their own fucking segments. Right. So. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe after the show, they link up and exchange social information. You never know. Um, but I do want to know Cinco and Zayna.

[00:19:41] Yeah. Zayna. Zayna. Yeah. If they're still talking, I want to know. We got nothing. We got nothing from them. We got nothing from our, any of our other pairs. Bring them back. Bring back our matches. He's from Netflix. Jesus. Yeah. Let's bring them back. We also get Damian. He is 23. Uh, he has daddy tattooed on his neck and he says, I don't have social media. And since I don't have social media, I don't, I don't think we would work because you clearly

[00:20:11] think that that's very important. He basically misread her question or misunderstood her question. But to me, I don't know. Chantel, if someone doesn't have social media, would that make you feel a way if they don't have any social media? It's well, at his age, I would say, yes. I have a friend that's like 47 and he's like, I hate social media. I don't want it. Whatever. And I was like, that's fine. You don't have to have it.

[00:20:39] But you can't get mad if people are playing the game that you don't want to be a part of the game. Like, so he's a director and like, you know, he's, he's a talented actor, director, all this stuff. And he doesn't want to get social media. And I'm like, but it's kind of your calling card. If somebody hears about you, they take a look and see like, oh, let me see what his social media looks like. Who does he know? Who knows him? Do I have friends that know him? Like, oh, is somebody I know work? Like, it's just a bit of a calling card at this car or a business card at this point.

[00:21:07] And so I think, yes, you can take social media breaks. Like sometimes people spend too much time on it. I get it. It can be, it can suck energy and life out of you sometimes if you're too immersed. But I kind of think I like staying within the times. I don't ever want to fall out of what's current. Like I want to be at the top of that. And so it would give me a little bit of the ick just being like, so you're just like, you're just in the past. Like you're just, you're not innovative. You're not moving forward.

[00:21:36] So it wouldn't be, yeah, not current. Like, oh, yeah, I would give you the ick probably. That's a good point. I never thought about it. But when you put it like that, it's like when you see something funny on social media, you naturally want to tell people about it and show people about it. And it's like, if you have a significant other who doesn't have social media at all, it's like, damn, I was going to send you this funny meme, but I guess I'll show it to you when I see you. Or I saw a TikTok earlier and I thought about you, but I guess I'll send it to you. You know, it's like it makes things a little bit more complicated when you put it like that.

[00:22:05] I have a friend that she, she likes social media, but she doesn't want to download TikTok because she gets too sucked in. So I can kind of let that slide a little bit because she does send me, she always sends me the same TikTok story that I saw like a year ago on Instagram. Be like, is this so funny? I'm like, that's so old news. But okay. Yeah, it was funny. But anyways, if I want to send her something on TikTok, I do screen record it for her. You just send her the video, which is really whack.

[00:22:33] But like, yeah, I don't want to have to do that. So my secret shame is that since, you know, TikTok was created, I remember I got on TikTok because everybody was doing it and I lasted about four hours before I said, I can't do this because I'm overstimulated and I'll be in TikTok. I will be in it. You see how deep I am in Twitter or I used to be in Twitter. And so like, imagine that TikTok, it was just like the longest day ever. It blew by. I was just watching random videos, whatever.

[00:23:03] So recently it got to the point where there are some videos that you basically can't watch without the app. Like if people send you something, like you have to basically go to the app or you need to log in online to watch it on. You can't just click it and play it like you could, like a public Twitter video or something like that. And so for months, people have been sending me TikToks and I've just been LOLing and haha and I have not, I couldn't open them. And so recently I revamped the Recap Kickback TikTok account. We've been posting a little bit more on there now.

[00:23:32] And so I got the app because I needed it. And now I can see the stuff. But yes, but for months, for months, I've been like exclamation point. Ha ha. You know, and I've not watched any of those. Oh my God, you've been faking your TikTok. I have been. It's like, if I gotta go online to do it, I'm not gonna watch it. I'm just not. I don't really like to be connected to my phone like that. It's crazy. I know, I get it. There's people that don't like that. And I do get that.

[00:24:01] Like if it's taking away from actually having real thoughts and connections with other people, of course, like I'm a people person. I like hanging out in person. Like, yeah. But I also really like technology. I like the things moving forward. I like advancing things. I just like that forward momentum. And so I can, no, it would probably bother me though. If they're just someone that doesn't want to have TikTok because it takes too much of their time or whatever.

[00:24:29] I just don't want somebody that's going to be like, oh, like, oh, you're on TikTok. Like, I don't want any sort of like judgment on it. Exactly. Right. Right. No, that's understandable. So yeah, he ends up hopping because he's just like, I'm not on social media. It sounds like that's important to you. So through that, we only have two people left. Demi didn't get through two questions before we're down to the final two. And that's why I'm saying it's down to two people. So she asked them each a question.

[00:24:57] She asked, what is it that you do in the community? Or do you like to give back to the community? Megan says she's into rescuing animals. No, he says I'm a stripper, but I like to mentor kids and juvie. And she ends up popping his balloon. She says he's still young and she probably wouldn't be able to trust him because he's dressed a little loose. You know, his shirt is unblamed. That's his conservative look. Yeah. I mean, he is a stripper. So, you know, I mean, didn't he say exotic dancer? Ain't that the same?

[00:25:26] You know, I just really feel like when you say exotic, I'm assuming you stripping. And so I think that the moment he said that, she probably was like, oh, OK, you 23 years old. You in a strip club. You probably still outside, even though he said he wants to lock it down. But Chantel, that quickly we got through all the daters and she was down to one question for Megan. And so she ends up asking her, if we're at a concert, where are we standing? And I thought this was such a good question.

[00:25:55] And then I was very sad to see that it was the last question that Megan and Demi will have asked each other before they have to choose it. They're going to pop her lock. But also, though, I understood the question perfectly. And I didn't understand why Yvonne didn't understand the question. I think it was just like a long way around, like the question. I think she was just kind of trying to ask, like, do you like to be in the crowd or outside of the crowd? Right. That's kind of where I got. And Yvonne sounded like she was like, wait, why are you asking at a concert? I think she I think she is kind of over the Demi situation.

[00:26:24] I think a lot of the rambling and like, you know, I think I think it got a little awkward for Yvonne. And she was just trying to rush through this one. OK, because I just was like, I feel like I understood what the question. Yeah, I was like, I get it. Like, I definitely when I was younger, I used to be a raver. And I. Shocker. No, it's not. I used to sneak out of my house.

[00:26:53] You and I are very similar. We like to party. I don't know what to tell you. I used to sneak out of my house at like 15 and take like public transport port, like all the way downtown to go and get on a shuttle bus and go to like some meatpack district. Like, like butt fuck nowhere. Anyways, so I was a raver and I would always people know where to find me at a rave because I would always be dancing in front of the right speaker or on the stage.

[00:27:22] And so I remember one time I was like, I do like my rave dancing and I was on the stage and I had this group of people that were like on the floor in front of me. They're like, we only come to this race to find you. And they're all like this thing. We come and look really so they know where to find me. And they come and like they're like trying to find me so they can dance with me at a rave. So, you know, I understood what it means to like have like a certain place where you go when you go to some like big party or concert. It made perfect sense to me.

[00:27:51] But nowadays I'd probably I know I probably want maybe like a go-go dancing platform because, you know, I'm a go-go dancer. So like that would probably be the best because I would want to have room to move. Yeah. I'm it's funny because I'm I'm I'm very similar. But there's like the small difference is that like when I'm around people, I don't know. I get very like, you know, I get kind of like it like in my bubble.

[00:28:19] But when music starts playing my bubble just because my bubble of me dancing. And so like everybody else around me is just kind of like you're not there. I don't really know what's happening with y'all. Like I'm just kind of in my don't let me have my sunglasses on or be enticed. I might as well be invisible. I don't really know what y'all are doing. Right. Like I just find me in my space by myself. And but I don't mind being in the mix. And I think there are a lot of people who really get overwhelmed by that type of, you know, environment of being in the mix.

[00:28:48] Demi was like, hey, I don't think you're going to like my answer, but I like to be as far away from the people as possible. And Megan liked that. Whereas I'm like, I don't mind being far from the people as long as I can hear the music. But I'm going to be wherever the music is best. And that's where I'm going to be. Like I need to be next to the speaker, by the speaker, by where I can. I don't have to be around people, but I got to have my vibe going. And so I totally understand that. I used to remember I used to be like, I just need to have my space. So I'd just be like. Yeah, just my little, my little, yeah, my little room.

[00:29:17] No, I totally get that. I went to a rave last year. They still exist? Yeah. Well, I'm not. I was never a raver as a youth. And so last year I went to a wedding, telling all that business, but I was in, I was, I went to a survivor player's wedding. And then after the wedding, we all went bar hopping, kind of like a reception type thing, bar hopping. And then after the bar hopping, you know, me who doesn't know how to go home was like, what are we about to do next?

[00:29:45] And then people started saying, oh, we're going to go to a rave. I said, oh, well, I want to go to the rave. And so I look up and yeah, next thing I know, I'm at a rave with some of the survivors from the new era and I'm top of my life. You know, I was like, this is great. I can do this all night because it's just music and me. I don't really care what's going on around me. I had a great time. So I kind of regret not being a rave. But I didn't listen to the same type of music when I was younger. When I was younger, I was very much like a, like very much into hip hop and like R&B,

[00:30:14] like, or it's like, it's a very different environment when it comes to just like dancing. Whereas like, you give me some house music or something like that now. Oh, you didn't lost me. I'm in the, I'm in the wind now. I'm out there having a good time. So I totally understand. When I was a raver, it was like when progressive house was the thing. And so like, I loved progressive house with vocals. And so the vocals would always be like some R&B vocals. And I know the whole song, all the words. And then like, it just like had the buildup and you're like, ah, like, you know.

[00:30:41] So progressive house, I think you'd probably have liked because sometimes don't have like singers that would be singing live at these raids and stuff like that. So yeah, I think you would enjoy progressive house. It's not only like ambiance kind of music. Yeah, no, I definitely, I think we speak the same language when it comes to partying. And again, we partied before plenty of time, Chantel. So I'm not learning anything new here. So yeah, after one question, we have to ask if it's a pop or a lot for Megan and Demi. And they both say, yeah, it's a lot.

[00:31:10] But I'm thinking, you don't know anything about her at all. Like there's, I don't think they made, aside from that question, Chantel, what did she learn? Like that was meaningful enough to say like, sure, let's do it. Or was she just the last person standing? I mean, I do think that they both found each other to be attractive. And so I think that that was enough to warrant going on a date. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I don't think it's like they're going to necessarily spend their life together and they had that zing.

[00:31:39] But I think that they were willing to, I don't know, hang out and watch Wicked too. Oh yeah, definitely going to watch Wicked. They bonded over that. Demi will say later on that she really enjoyed that Megan didn't write her off so quickly and gave her a chance. And yeah, they started to talk and it seems like they do have a few things in common. So we shall see what happens with them later on. But now we have to move to our next data.

[00:32:09] And this is so funny. So Arian comes out and I don't know if he did like, if he was limping or if there was like a little step he did. But boom, we get a pop there. And then he says, I'm 29 from Memphis and I've never been in a relationship. Boom, get more props. And he's looking for someone who can complete him and can be his other piece. Now, if somebody has never been in a relationship, Chantel, is that a red flag for you?

[00:32:35] Well, it depends on what not been a relationship means. Does it mean like I've not been in a long term relationship? Because you kind of explained it at the end, but like it didn't really fully make sense. Like, I want to know what that means. Has he been on lots of dates? Has, you know, has he just been focusing on career? Like, I would like to know a little bit more as to like the circumstances around it. Or is it just that he's a complete commitment foe or he has a lot of baggage and like he, I don't know. Like I need to know more as to why he's in that position.

[00:33:05] I don't think I'd fully write them off if that's the case, but I would have a few more questions. Yeah. Well, Winnie writes him off immediately and says he's not muscular enough. And to that I say, Winnie, I've been in the gym. I promise. I just give me like a few more months and I'm going to be there. Maybe. Maybe she's going to start coming to more events. Maybe you're going to. Yeah. She deadlifts 325. I do not. And so just give me some months. I'll be there. Okay.

[00:33:33] Just I was like, yeah, I run through a wall. Are you going to do 75 hard for her? Are you going to do it early during the summer? Yeah, I got to. Like we're in the heat of the day. If it look, if it'll get Winnie's attention, sure. Yeah, whatever. And I'll do it. Whatever. I don't care. But yeah, she wrote him off. It's too small. We also meet Aleta and she's 28 and she pops her balloon too. She says she works in, she's working on her own clothing brand.

[00:34:01] She lives in San Diego and she doesn't want to be his first relationship. Now, this is important to me because there are several people who will say this. And by the end, we will see somebody, the last person popped their balloon and say the same exact thing. Now, I just want to know if someone tells you that this is their first, you have never been in a relationship and you know that that's something you don't want. Why are you waiting to the end to pop your balloon? What were you doing? Well, maybe they want more screen time.

[00:34:28] You know, it all comes down to that in the end, I think. Or maybe they're seeing whether or not something else would draw. Like, I think they're just basically not attracted to them and use it as an excuse later on. But they're just kind of waiting to see how it went, probably. And cloud. And a little bit of cloud. Yeah. Our young stripper, Noe, says he's not teaching somebody how to date. So he taps out.

[00:34:55] So Damien doesn't really like the response. First of all, let me go back to Noe. Noe, you're 23. What you mean you're not teaching nobody how to date? You don't know nothing. I'm sorry. It's something like. No way that he knows anything. Yeah, I'm an elder now. Man, when I was 23, I knew everything. But y'all keep telling no nothing. You know what I'm saying? But y'all know what y'all talk about. Yeah, I mean, I can understand maybe like maybe he's in a more of a fluid lifestyle, maybe.

[00:35:26] And he wouldn't want to have to deal with somebody that maybe wanted something a little bit more monogamous. I don't know. I don't know. I'm trying to like make an excuse as to what Noe is saying here. But I really wouldn't take any advice from a 23 year old. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, that's like I'm sorry to 23 year olds. Listen to this. We just don't take you seriously. All right. So Arian gets to ask some questions. This is an interesting question. So I'm going to shoot it back to you, Chantel.

[00:35:52] If your friends had to give you a warning label, what would the warning label say? I don't know when to go home. She will be up the latest. I will be last to sleep. I will be last to go home. Yeah, that could be my toxic trait. But I think it's because if I'm not in a relationship, I'm like, I want to hang out with people.

[00:36:20] I want to, you know, like, but if there's somebody at home, then maybe I'll be more inclined to go home. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Or stay out together. I'll think of that one. I'll think of another one as well. What do you got? Definitely that. Oh, man. There's probably too many of them. Because to me, I feel like I come off pretty unassuming. And then people are always shocked when they find out stuff about me. And I'm like, if there was a label that you could put on me, then yeah, then I think that would help.

[00:36:48] Like, for one, I'm a lot more intense than I probably let on. You know, I think in initial meetings, people really think I'm kind of chill. And in reality, I'm like a nut. And Aries Stellium over here for the girls and gents that know. Right. But that's the thing. You know, I think that there's a lot of intensity there. And people just see the grin and think, oh, this is nice. This is normal. And I'm like, you don't understand what you're getting yourself into, you know? So there's that.

[00:37:17] I'm definitely a person who doesn't know when to stop. You know, I'm like, I don't know when to go home. You know, I'm one of those people as well. When I'm ready to go home, I go. But a lot of times, I'm the last one out. You ain't got to ever worry about me being like, hey, guys, let's leave. Like, I don't know, stop me. But one of the biggest warnings, I guess I would say, is I'm a flight risk. I've said this before on this podcast. If I'm not having a good time, peace. And you can apply that to anything. I'm talking about in life, in love, in dating, whatever.

[00:37:47] If I'm not having a good time, you ain't got to worry about me too much longer. Okay. I think I thought of another warning label for myself. Okay. Go for it. Um, my face doesn't hide. Like, if I'm pissed, you know it. Yeah. Like, it's just like, I mean, like, my best friend can read me. She'll just be like, oh, what happened? Like, you know what I mean?

[00:38:09] Like, so that could be bad that sometimes that, you know, I might be upset and people can tell. So in my experience, it's because you and I, I will include myself in this as well because I've gotten that feedback before. It's because we smile a lot. We're like, we're big on grinning. We're smiling. I mean, you know, and so when we're not, it's very noticeable. It's kind of like we have resting, smiling face. And then when we're not, people are like, wait, what's happening? What's wrong with you?

[00:38:36] It's like, hey, I was just thinking, you know, like, I didn't know it was that deep. But they can read all over your face that something's uncomfortable because you don't have that normal, you know, grin that's kind of plastered on our face. At least that's what I've experienced in my life. You can correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe, maybe. Like people just like, maybe they feel more comfortable like when we're smiling. So when we're not smiling, they kind of, you know, get on. You know, back goes up. Maybe.

[00:39:05] I always wonder why people don't allow me to be upset about anything. Like if I'm ever in my head about something, people are like, why are you so upset? I'm like, hey, just leave me alone. Let's breathe and think for a second. Right, right. Exactly. So you get me. That's what I'm saying. And if you smile too much, it makes people feel like you always smiling. And so the fun time you're not, it's going to draw attention. At least that's what I've experienced. I'm thinking about my mom.

[00:39:26] I don't know if I said it on this part before, but I've definitely mentioned something that she would put on my warning label is that I think that I'm a know-it-all. I know I am. And so she used to say to me all the time growing up is like, Chantel, not everybody's as smart as you are. And I'm like, well, don't hang out with me. No, look, most people think I'm stupid.

[00:39:55] So actually, I don't ever get that. But the warning label probably said like, he wants you to think he's stupid. Just like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's good with that. Okay. So I thought that was a great question. We get Carousel saying, her warning label would say she finds out everything. Like, I can find out everything too. I kind of be like that sometimes. Like when I want some information, I can go get it. I know how to get it. You know?

[00:40:25] And people come to me and ask for it. They're like, can you help me find someone? Oh, yeah. You want them? Trackers. I see. Okay. Oh, you know, one of like the FBI agents on the Instagram accounts. You be checking everybody's accounts and scrolling through the photos, the tag photos, all that stuff. Of course, I can find anybody. It might just need a couple pieces of information. You know, a name and maybe a state or province and maybe an industry of work. But maybe.

[00:40:54] But without it, you'd be all right too. Exactly. But this would make it easy. But like, it might take a little longer if I have less information. But yeah, understood. This one also stood out to me. Destiny says she believes in everything, particularly ghosts. But basically her warning label is that she's not closed minded to things that are not directly in front of you that you can't like see with the visible eye and or with the naked eye. And I feel this. I'm not really like, it's not that I believe everything. But I'm very open minded.

[00:41:23] You know, like I'm not going to close my mind off to things that I don't understand. Because I mean, I just don't feel like I have enough. Again, I don't really think I'm that smart. But yeah, I don't have that much information. Like, who am I to be so conceited to think that I can understand all these things? Right. Exactly. So that's kind of how I feel. Yeah. Like, that doesn't feel like it's for me. You know? I totally understand her thinking of that being a red flag. And I can put myself in that category because, you know, I have come from a psychic family,

[00:41:52] I believe, and study astrology. And these are a lot of things that a lot of people have negative experiences with or don't know much about. And so they kind of poo-poo on it a little bit. And so I can see that being a red flag to somebody. Like, being like, oh, I got an astrology girly. That means that she's, you know, doesn't believe in reality or something like that. And I'd be like, you know what I mean? They might just think it's a red flag. So I can understand that one.

[00:42:19] Arian does pop for Destiny's because he says, I don't really believe in the supernatural. And he loses Serafina in this match, too, because Serafina says she's a certified yapper. Guilty. But she also believes in, you know, stuff that you might not understand at first glance, Arian. And so Serafina pops. And then so does Carousel. She's like, I'm not a skeptic either. And so very quickly, we're down to just Nelson.

[00:42:47] And so, again, Nelson, who will tell us, I'm not trying to be your first person. Yeah, your first significant other, your first relationship, says this in the final round. He's right here about to get chosen. It says, I'm a pop because of that. Sir, you could have popped your balloon 15 minutes ago and saved us all some time. Absolutely. But maybe, yeah, like I said, that he just wanted to get to the end to have his moment to, like, pop his balloon.

[00:43:15] He does seem to be like a little bit of a red flag. Sometimes his answers were leading to, like, I just felt like he's like a bit of a player and a bit of like, he has a lot of, what was his story that he told? Was it for one of these first two people? Or was it after? No, we'll get to it. Apparently, he's got a little freaky side to himself, I guess. Yeah. He said, oh, yeah, that was the thing. It was his warning label says that his friends would say he's spontaneous and adventurous.

[00:43:43] And when he says adventurous, he means he once had sex in an army tank when in Afghanistan, I think it was. I mean, what did he say at the end? He said. Oh, what about. No, he had like a salute at the end. Like he said, like, Geronimo or I can't remember what he said. Oh, he said, oh, it's going down. He's yelling timber. I believe those were Kesha lyrics. Oh, timber. Oh, it's going down. Mm-hmm. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that one.

[00:44:13] Oh, yeah. It went down. Actually, I'd dance to it at a bar. Oh, you would? You know you would soon. It's not bad. No one is surprised. But yeah, Arian said that, you know, prior to wanting to get in a relationship, his core flag had been waving a little bit. And that felt like it did turn Nelson off. But Nelson was always going to pop his balloon because he didn't want to be Arian's first relationship. Right.

[00:44:41] And I do think that he might be a little. Well, I mean, also, I would imagine that I could be wrong. So I don't know. But in a male-male relationship, if it's his first male-male relationship, there would be a lot of maybe things that Nelson would need to teach him and stuff like that. I don't know. So maybe, yeah, he doesn't want to take on that responsibility of basically being his first. Like, I don't know if he's a virgin. He might not be a virgin. Did he say his first? It don't sound like it. No, he said his core flag was waving.

[00:45:11] And I don't think you can have a whore flag if you're not doing whore things. I think you gotta, you can't just give that flag to everybody. That's all I was saying. Okay, okay. But anyways, like I can understand maybe a little bit more in a male-male same-sex relationship, not wanting to be each other's first. I don't know. But I don't know anything really about that world deeply. Nope. No pops there. Well, no locks there. We get a pop and we have to move on to our third dinner.

[00:45:40] And I know you're excited to talk about this third dater because I didn't even know they were, I didn't even know they were single. We get Cody, my brother Cody's brother from Big Brother, from the challenge, from social media, from OnlyFans and all the other places. We get Pauly Calafiore. And I didn't even know him and Cara Maria weren't together. I don't keep up with the challenge that closely.

[00:46:09] Well, okay, I had heard, not heard, there was some speculation when 40 was airing that they unfollowed each other. But then they were both saying like, no, nothing's changed, whatever. So there was already kind of a rumor going around that they had broken up, but none of them had made like their notes app statement yet, you know?

[00:46:37] And so I didn't necessarily see them that they were together or not together specifically. But then she was also making those comments that people weren't really appreciative of with her political stance and such. And so maybe that's something that pushed him away because he was kind of, she was kind of discrediting the trans community as part of the LGBTQ2+. So I don't know.

[00:47:04] There's a lot of things that have been going on with Cara Maria right now that maybe he decided to like take a step back from that relationship. Or they might be in a Pauly relationship. Not, I don't know, his name is Pauly, but they might be Pauly Amorous. Pauly Amorous. Well, he did say he just got out of a long-term relationship. So I assume he meant Cara Maria, but maybe it was a plus one in their relationship. But I felt like it was Cara. Yeah, it seemed like Cara. Because he said in the public eye as well. Exactly. Yeah.

[00:47:32] And so look, if they broke up because of what she's been saying online and about the trans community and whatever, then good for him. I don't know. I personally, to me, it's a deal breaker if we don't have similar values when it comes to human rights. And like, hey, you out here trying to oppress somebody, you can kick rocks. And so I think that's pretty big of him to, you know, if that's the case. But that said, he says his red flags are jealousy, possessiveness, and control.

[00:48:00] But he does like vulnerability and expression. Chantel, of these daters, is it reasonable to believe that none of them knew who Pauly Califiora was? It's reasonable to believe this. It's reasonable to believe this. You think that everybody knew who he was? I don't know. Because even with Johnny Bananas, we didn't have anybody just outwardly say that they knew who he was.

[00:48:24] But what I'm getting at is, if you know who Pauly Califiora is, I just, I feel like this is a quick pop. You know what I'm saying? I feel like the big brother Pauly stuff was crazy. The stuff we've seen on the challenge has been very interesting to say the least. They stuck it out. But when I tell you, I was like, Pauly, I flinched. I didn't know, you know, like. Well, I was like, from the big brother, I'm like, who are they bringing on?

[00:48:53] When I saw him, I was like, what? But he's also been doing the rounds, it seems. So he was on Vanderpump Villa with Cara. So they must have filmed that within the last year, I believe. Maybe even less. You know what Vanderpump Villa is? No, I just know Vanderpump rules exist. I don't know anything about the Villa.

[00:49:16] Okay, so Lisa Vanderpump, she started another similar show where she has guests coming to a chateau in France. And so it's all about her staff at the chateau and then all the guests that come to this big castle. And so Pauly and Cara Maria were guests at this castle in this season that's airing right now, or just finished airing the reunion. And so it just seems like he's around right now.

[00:49:46] And I'm like, who is asking for him? Am I missing something? Because I really don't like him. And I never really want to see him on my TV. And I was giving him another chance on 40 and he flopped. So I don't need him. Yeah, I got a good dislike in the Pauly Califiore on Big Brother. And then in recent years, I've been trying to open my mind to people changing and stuff like that. And so I've been giving him a lot more grace when it comes to being on my television screen.

[00:50:15] So I would say that. But as far as like being a fan, I mean, he dug his hole in Big Brother. You know what I'm saying? Like in Big Brother, I was like, I just like this person, I could never see them again. I'd be okay. But like I said, I think that he's kind of reinvented himself a little bit recently, maybe in the last like five, six years or so. And then he's back on the challenge doing things. I don't really know where he stands right now. But like when he walked out, my first thought was that's not Pauly because why would you put it? And I was like, oh, it is Pauly. That's crazy.

[00:50:44] Because I'm saying like what? I mean, I'm happy that they popped for that dangly earring. You know how we feel about those. We got a couple of people popped for the dangly earrings. The two prettiest girls on the set, in my opinion. Right. Winnie popped and I was like, I ought to rip that earring out my ear. Girl, it's gone. Don't wait. Yeah. So Destiny pops. She said he lives too far. He's like talking about how he's from Minnesota and Florida. She's from L.A.

[00:51:12] So Serafina pops because he's from- No, it's Montana. Montana. Montana. Listen, same. But Montana and Florida are both red states, right? Florida definitely is. So I have to assume Montana is. Yeah. And they're from L.A. So they're probably like, no, we're not doing that. I mean, we see Damien. He will pop. He says he's from Florida and I just don't do Florida. Now, again, Damien is 23. Pauly, you should have popped his balloon first. Like you don't have no business over there with no 23-year-old man. Get away from him.

[00:51:43] Like it's just like- So yeah, that's like some of this guy, you got to stop. He's not almost 40. He's 34. But regardless, he's too big of a guy. Yeah. He said he was 34 in the episode. Is he lying? He's not that young. So he was younger than Kara? I don't know how old Kara Marie is. I have no clue. She's definitely almost 40. I mean, that's not a huge shocker for me. Let me see. Yeah, she's 38. No, he's 36. So he lied. Oh, yeah. I thought he said he was- Oh, okay.

[00:52:12] I definitely thought he said he was 34. But yeah, 36. So yeah, still way too old for this 23-year-old. I'm sorry. Let me speak out and be the one to say, like, get away from him. Aleka Pops. Noe Pops. She says she got the ick from the earrings. And the way that he called Winnie a little Amazonian. She said, I'm a big Amazonian. There was- Look, one thing Pauly got, he's got some charisma. I thought he had a good rapport with all of the people up there. I got the ick, though.

[00:52:40] I agree with her with getting the ick when he said, like, oh, like, me a little Amazonian. I was like, it sounded a little bit fetishy and a little bit like, I didn't actually, I didn't appreciate it. She let it roll off her back for sure. But yeah, I can, I just, I didn't like it either. I was like, ugh. Could be also he is ick. I don't know. But I just don't, ugh. She's also, she's also very tall. And so she probably gets stuff like that a lot.

[00:53:08] You know, like, oh, I want to climb you. Or people call her a tree or something like that. She probably gets stupid shit like that all the time. I know, he's only 5'7". And she looks like she's like 5'10". And she's right heels. And Noe says, below 5'10 is a friend. And Pauly is too short for him. Now, mind you, Noe is probably shorter than Pauly. But he's like, I'm not looking for no short dude. So he pops as well. Have you ever heard that before? Below 5'10 is a friend? I kind of, I like it.

[00:53:40] I've never heard it before. Never. But like, you know, below 5'10 is a friend. I might use it for something else that rhymes. I might steal it. Let's revamp it. But I had never heard it before and I like it. Sorry. Yeah. But you got height, so you don't have to. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't get discriminated against because of my height. It's the one thing God gave me and was like, okay, you be all right. You know, there's definitely some, what is it? What do you call it? Humble traits that I got that we don't got to talk about right now.

[00:54:10] So Pauly ends up down to Nelson and Carousel. And he asked for them, what are the vibe killers? Nelson says, disrespect. And I thought, well, you don't want to be around Pauly. What? Have you met this man? Have you seen his confessionals? Have you seen Big Brother? I think this is a pop. But again, maybe he's different outside of TV. Fair. Fair. And I'm curious because we do find out that he, Pauly shares with the audience that he

[00:54:38] learned that he was bisexual on, I can't remember which season of the challenge it was. It was one of the spinoffs, I believe. And I'm just curious, like, if he has been dating men this time or would actually he be this first man that he was dating? Because like, has he just been attracted to? So I'm just curious as to whether this is a first male relationship for Pauly to be delving into or if he's had some experience there before. Because he's with Kara for so long. But I do think they were polyamorous. But I don't know.

[00:55:07] They're complicated. Yeah. Um, yeah, that's probably a good point, right? Like he's probably dated, but probably while he was dating Kara as well. And so who knows? Um, but, uh, Carousel says that she doesn't like the Karen vibes. Like people were like, oh, I need to speak to a manager. And so Pauly says, all right, I have to pick between the two of you. And I'm feeling more from Nelson. And he says, I'm just not really doing the women thing right now. And so I felt like I didn't know if that was him saying like, hey, after Cara Maria,

[00:55:36] I'm not really doing the women thing for a little bit. Or him and Cara are still tight knit. And he's able to go and venture out. Because to me, I just never knew them to be single. You know? So I just, this was all news to me. So I was trying to make it make sense in my head. That's a good point that he's allowed to experiment with somebody that can't give, can give him something that Cara Maria couldn't. So maybe they have opened their relationship up in that way,

[00:56:02] that they're allowed to experience same sex relationship outside their relationship, but male, female, they'll keep towards themselves. Okay. Yeah. I'm just speculating. Because I did, again, I just was like, oh, I didn't, you know, it's such a public relationship that I felt like if they were broken up, we would know. There was rumors. So if they are, I'm not surprised. Yeah. Yeah. So he goes off with Nelson. And personally, it just felt like he just picked somebody.

[00:56:30] Like, you know, did you feel like you felt like a lot of chemistry between the two of them? How many times have we felt any chemistry with anybody? I did feel a little bit with Demi and Winnie. Demi and everybody. Demi and Winnie, yeah. I thought we could have maybe had like a bit of a vibe, you know. Yeah. But this was nothing. Like, it just felt like, okay. They seemed like they was kind of cool. They talked a little bit. But Pauly says he travels for work. Nelson said he's in LA. But he's kind of, I don't know, kind of on the fence about the long distance thing.

[00:56:59] Pauly talks about hosting events and boxing. And Nelson says that... Doesn't Pauly also do sex retreats? I don't know. Does he? Yeah, I think so. What's a sex retreat? Like, what are you like? Like, I don't know. It was, I think it's under like the guise of like working out. But I feel like everybody's having sex with each other. At the workout retreat? That's what them Herbalife conferences be? Okay. Nasty. Freaky frogs.

[00:57:29] I'm not judging. I'm just like, I'm just highlighting that this is freaky as hell. I think so. But I'm not 100%. Okay. Maybe some retreats are more salacious than others. Okay. Listen, post some videos. So Nelson says this is a lock. And they have, you know, they have now chosen each other. We don't get any follow up on them at all. We don't see them backstage and talking. So we will just hope that they have connected. I don't know. I just didn't get a lot from them together.

[00:57:58] But our final dater. Effie, 28. Former pro figure skater who does music. Now Effie is coming in a little bit. She's kind of quiet delivery. You know, she seemed very, almost like a little timid. But you can tell this is an act. This lady is putting on an act. She, there's a lot more fire in Effie to be. She got called out by Yvonne as well. When she's like, say like, I'm like, except I can be a fiery Latina. And she had a little bit of attitude. And Yvonne was like, who's she? Right.

[00:58:28] I kind of wish that she just was herself. Mm. Yeah. That would have been interesting. Like, she was cute though. I think it was like a persona that you use to disarm people. You know, like, hey, it's just me. Da, da, da, da. And then as you start to get more comfortable, you start letting people into the real you. And then, you know, there might be a little crazy in the real her. See, well, for me, it wouldn't work for me. Even like on like a friend level. That like, I like people that are kind of open and real.

[00:58:57] And I can see who they actually are. Because like, that's how you vibe. And you can see if you have a vibe with somebody. So if someone's putting on some mask and that's not who they are. Like, there's no way that we're going to vibe because you're not a real person. So. Right. I wish you was with yourself. Because she's cute. Yeah. And she says she hasn't been with anyone in three years. And she wants someone who will treat her like a princess. And who is financially stable. And so we get some pops. Because her red flag is broke. And we got a broke person.

[00:59:27] And we got some princesses who want to be treated like princesses. So Whitney's out. She says, I'm tired of being in the lead. I want to be the princess. Alexa says, I'm looking for somebody more dominant. And Camille, our new dater on the panel, says she's broke. And she cannot afford her. So what did you think about this response to wanting somebody to treat her like a princess. But them already wanting to be the princess in the relationship. Maybe there can't be two. Well, her stating that is basically saying that she wants masculine energy.

[00:59:57] And I was actually watching. I don't know if I talked to you about this person on TikTok. And this is a guy that's kind of like a dating coach a little bit. He talks about like manifestation. And anyways, he talks about dating though in the sense that if you want a masculine man, you're going to have to be sitting in your feminine. An equal amount of feminine to an equal amount of masculine.

[01:00:18] And what he was suggesting is on a dating app to put like for one of the prompts, like I'll pay if I'll pay for our first date or the first drinks if. And he says that you should write if you slide over your credit card. Or something to that extent, right? And he's like, it will weed out anybody that's not financially viable right now.

[01:00:42] That's not sitting in that type of masculine energy because it is by nature that the male energy wants to be the provider in that kind of way. And so I can understand her kind of throwing that out there to weed out anybody that's not that doesn't is not able to step into that type of masculine role for her. So I'm not completely against it. I think she could have maybe worded it to sound a little bit like a little nicer.

[01:01:13] But say what you said. It's a little bit harsh, but I think it did its job by weeding out people that would immediately not be able to have that balance that she's looking for. Chantel, is broke a red flag for you? They have to have ambitions still. Like they need a plan, right? I need moving forward. Actionable idols.

[01:01:41] No, like broke as in like you've never had any money before. Broke because you invested in something and you're working to, you know what I mean? Depends the type of broke that you are. So it could be, though, a red flag because it could be lack of motivation. It could be poor spending. You know, there could be red flags around why they're broke. So I'd need more information for sure. When I'm broke, I take myself out of the running. I pop my own balloon. I don't like to be around people when I don't have no money.

[01:02:11] You know, I just don't like that. That's not for me. If I don't have no money, I'm going home. I'm going where it's free to breathe. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to be outside. I don't want to go to stuff if I'm broke. I will deal breaker myself out of here in a heartbeat because I don't want you asking me to do stuff that I can't afford. I don't like to disappoint people. So I definitely don't want to tell you like, oh, I can't go do that. I can't do that. I can't do this. And then for them to say like, well, don't worry, I'll pay for it. You'd be like, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I would rather be dead. You are not paying for me to do anything.

[01:02:40] You know, like unless we are paying for each other to do stuff, but just you putting the bill like, listen, was there a time where I would love to be taken care of? Sure. But no, not now. I'm a grown ass man. I got to have my own. So, yeah, broke is funny. But broke is also a deal breaker for me. Don't bring your broke ass over here. You know you ain't got no money. You know, like I'm not paying for everything. I'm not out here trying to. I'm living for me. I can't live for us. You got to have a job.

[01:03:06] Like you said, you got to have some ambition or you need to focus on you until you can afford to kick it. Because I like to do stuff. I like to go outside. Yeah. I love doing stuff. Right. You like to travel? Yeah. Like I, not that I judge, but I love just being like, yeah, let's just go do this. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. And then say yes. Because like I like doing stuff. I like adventure. I like trying new things. Right.

[01:03:32] So I need somebody that doesn't have money to be holding them back. So not that I'm like the richest person on the planet right now, but like I do like to spend money. And so if someone's not comfortable with spending money, that would be a problem. That's my favorite thing about money is spending it. You know what I'm saying? Like that's the whole point. Like you get it. I love spending money so much. I love spending it.

[01:04:02] But when I tell you when I get it, I'm like, who do I give this to so I can do stuff? So yeah. I'm just shopping online. What can I buy? Just send a like presence. Come to the door. Yeah. No, I love. I love buying things. Yeah. So now she moves on to where she kind of reveals her crazy. She says, I'm Latina and it gets a little wild. But what's the most toxic thing? You have done to get someone's attention. Chantel, you know, the question is coming to you. I hope you thought about it. We did your homework.

[01:04:31] What is the most toxic thing you've ever done to get someone's attention? Toxic. I don't know if this toxic or like just like. I'll tell you if it's toxic. Is this embarrassing? I'll let you know. It's embarrassing. Okay. We'll see. Um. So. It's okay. I went to an art school, right? Okay. And so like.

[01:04:58] I went up just writing like a kind of like a cheeky fun poem, like limerick type thing to this person. And I gave it to them. So it's not that crazy. It's just really embarrassing because it didn't work. Yeah. That's not toxic at all. I don't really. I'm not really that toxic that I can think of. But okay. You tell me yours and then I'll see if I can think of a better one. Okay. Well. Uh. I don't know.

[01:05:26] So I think my toxic trait is that I like to breadcrumb. I like. I will let. I like for people to think that I like them. I love. I love that. I love that. I love that. Like. You think I like you, don't you? I love. I like to like real people in. It's just. It's something I do. Like. Like. And like. It might be like. I can tell they like me. And I'm just like letting them think that there's a chance. Or. Like I'm actively going out of my way to make them think that I like them. And I don't know why. But like they said it's toxic. And it's for attention. But it's something that I.

[01:05:56] It's like a switch I have. Like if I want you to think that I'm in love with you. You will think it. I don't necessarily have to. Like. I don't necessarily have to reciprocate those feelings at all. But I can get you to think like. Okay. That's it to me. And I don't know. I don't know why. But I enjoy it. I enjoy the allure of people being like. Because I think when people think you like them. They like you back. And I think like. It's like. Okay. They start to like really push toward me. And so I can feel you pull it to my gravity. And what am I going to do? Continue to be aloof. And as my like superpower. I will be like.

[01:06:26] What? You like me? What are you talking about? I'm like. What are you talking about? Me? Toxic. Toxic man. It is. I don't do it all the time. I don't do it all the time. And it was definitely one of my younger traits for sure. I think it also. I think it has recently resurfaced. I will say that. But it's mostly because I'm not looking for a relationship right now. But I do like people. So I love talking to people. And if I'm not careful. I will. Like. I don't even call it flirting. I just think that like. If I'm not careful. I can be very engaging. I guess I will say. And.

[01:06:56] And like. That is like my. My super villain power. Is that like. If I want to. I can be very engaging. I can make you think I'm your best friend. In a heartbeat. I can't believe. I can't think of anything more toxic. That I've done. Maybe it's like. Like. Like bartending. I've been. I've definitely used. That's part of the job. Yeah. That's part of the job. Yeah. Well let's talk about the ones that they have. Carousel. She knew her ex was cheating. And so. What she did. Was she found the receipts. She screenshot them. And then she.

[01:07:26] Made him. Made the receipts. The background on his phone. So that he would see. That she knew. That he was cheating. Um. I think that. I don't think that's toxic. I think that. Now. It's only toxic. And she stayed. If she stayed with him. After finding out. She was cheating. And she made this great display. Then she is now the problem. Because now. She is there to loom that over that man's head. She is not there to work it out. She is there. To make sure that he is miserable. For cheating on her. And so. I was like. The toxic levels is where. Where you go after this. You know. If you got out.

[01:07:56] Then this isn't toxic. Yeah. Exactly. Like. I'm like. Oh. That's kind of genius. A little bit. Yeah. Like. Be like. Like. That would be very. Like. Yeah. But I agree with you. That if she stayed. Then. It's definitely. Like. Playing this. Like. Toxic dance. Of like. I see what you're doing. And we're going to fight. And get back together. Like. Yeah. It could be. A part of a cycle. So. I like the action. That could be my toxic trait. I don't know. But. You know.

[01:08:26] We don't know. She stayed or she left. So. It's also. Kind of funny. Yeah. Destiny. Stalked somebody. From their fake account. And accidentally ran into them. On purpose. Um. I don't have a fake account. I don't know. Anybody who does. Chantel. I know you are an investigator. Online. Did you ever need to create a burner. So that you can get. Into any access. Into anybody's. Like. Like a friend request. I might have. Maybe. Or like. Maybe.

[01:08:56] Mm-hmm. That's pretty toxic. I mean. It's not great. Chantel. But it's like. It's not my boyfriend. It's somebody else's. Right. It's not for you. So you've never had to investigate. One of your own significant others. Uh. I mean. I'm definitely. Is that toxic? Like. Just going in. And like. I mean. Knowing the truth. How far are you. Going to get the truth. Chantel. That's the toxic part. Like. Is it just. I looked at your page. Or is it. I logged into my secret account. And then added your mama.

[01:09:25] So I could go through her photos. Because I didn't see you. In any. I didn't see you. In any tag photos. Chantel. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Or maybe like. Being like a. I can't say. Like a non. I think I might have done that actually. But this has been a long time ago. You're like. Not in that. Not recently. Definitely. Like a decade ago. Maybe. Okay. Now. Maybe even 15 years. Like. Hello. Let's find out. So. Noe. Noe says. He.

[01:09:55] Knew that his ex. Was going to a college in Arizona. So what he did. Was he applied. To the same exact college. And got accepted. Just so he could. Post the acceptance letter. On the social media. And say. Hey. Heading off to Arizona. To the same exact college. As his ex. Just because he wanted his ex. To think he was going to show up. In one of his classes. That's. That's. That's. That's like. That's a lot of thought. Going in there. Of like.

[01:10:25] Evil. Like. I like it. I. It's. It's. I think. That's a lot of work. Though. And that's what I think is. That's why I think it's. It's a little. Like you like it. But like. That's kind of psycho. Right. It is. Like. It's a bit too. Like you do that in a plot of a movie. You don't do that in real life. That's so much work. If the application fee. Is free. Then you do it. You know. Because if it costs you no money. And all you got to do is send off a transcript. Whatever.

[01:10:56] But if it's like. He's going to have to like write an essay. Yeah. You don't write an admissions essay. That's crazy. You get a recommendation letter. Yeah. Not wrote. Yeah. It's like a lot of work. Just to make him have the fear that maybe you're going to be in his class. Like. He must. I think he made it up. Yeah. I don't think he made it up. If Damien. Says. He's never gone out of his way to get someone's attention. He's just like. It's just not. It's just not that serious. As far as getting someone's attention.

[01:11:28] Hmm. Yeah. If I thought about it. Because I'm a big energy. I know that. I know that I. If I want to take up a lot of space. I can. I've definitely been a person who will take up space in a room. Where I know I'm not wanted. To get someone's attention. You know. Like where I walk in. I might see an ex. And it gets. You know that tension. Where it's like. Oh. I haven't talked to you in a while. You're not going to shrivel. You're going to fucking. I'm going to become the life of the party. Yeah. I'm going to make. Absolutely. You are not going to. You're not going to ignore me. You know what I'm saying?

[01:11:58] I'm going to ignore you. I'm acting like I don't see you. But you're not going to have a better time than I'm having at this function. Both of us are miserable. That's just not happening. I agree. So. Yeah. I kind of relate to that a little bit. So. She pops. For Destiny. And she says. They know each other. They never say how though. L.A.? Like. I don't know. I mean. The people act like L.A. is small. There's a billion people there. Maybe there's like. A bisexual scene. Lesbian scene. Music.

[01:12:28] Lesbian music scene. I don't know. Have y'all met? Do y'all know each other? Like. I wanted more information. I really felt like. Well she asked in the biblical sense. And our data didn't know what that meant. I was like. Right. Asking if y'all was bumping uglies. Have y'all got down with the get down? You know. We didn't get any answers. I didn't like that. I do want to know. Like. Are we doing exit interviews for the show? Right. We got to get some questions going. That would be fun though. If we could get some interviews for these people. And just ask them about their overall experience. And then like.

[01:12:57] If anything came from it. That would be so cool. Some of these people are reality stars. So that I'm sure they wouldn't be against it. And then some of these people. Probably would love a little extra fame. From their Netflix show. So. I don't know. Maybe we reach out to Netflix. And see what's happening. You want to talk to Paulie? No. See how his date went. Well I just need. I need concrete answers. I'm going to be like. So are you and Cara Maria two together? Yes or no? Like that's what I want. I want it on record. Because I'm definitely nosy enough to ask. Yes. So. Um. She ends up popping Noah.

[01:13:26] And just says she wasn't feeling him. So. We get Carousel. She gets to ask her a question. She says. Uh. Are you the jealous type? Um. And she's like. No. Not jealous. And then Serafina asks. Uh. Where friendships fall. In their priorities. And she says her friends or her families. Uh. Chantel you have a lot of friends. Is this like. One of those things where like. Your significant other. Is going to know your friends. Your friends are a part of your family. And that is just a thing that's unavoidable. For sure. That's like.

[01:13:56] I think that's something for me. It's like. If you can't get along with my friends. That's going to be a problem. Because. Yeah. Then you're not getting along with me. You know. I do feel like they're a big representation of me. And if that doesn't. That doesn't work. Then we don't work. Spice Girls famously said that. If you want to be my lover. You got to get with my friends. Which I always thought was very interesting. But now I kind of get it. You know. I'm like. Oh. You're like. Not get them like that. Yeah. But like. Like. Like this. Yeah. That makes sense. Like. I can't let you in my circle.

[01:14:26] If you can't be in my circle. You know. So. Yeah. Like. I want you to be able to hold your own. I want them to like. Want to be around you. I want them. I want you to become their friend as well. Like. My best friend's husband. Loves me. He's like. He comes and sits and hangs out with. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah. If it didn't work. Then it wouldn't work. Right. Right. No. I totally. No. I totally agree. Damien. He says. He's big on. I'm sorry. Damien. Damien. He says. He's big on self-improvement and skin care. And he asks. What's her daily regimen like. Before.

[01:14:55] The first three things she does. When she gets out of bed. Chantelle. You got a morning skin care routine. You want to let us in on. Because people are always in the comments. Talking about how beautiful your skin is. God. I don't want to disappoint people. But. I. I'm. I don't. Oh. She said. It's natural. I woke up like this. It's natural. I did wake up like this. I do drink a glass of water. As soon as I wake up. For sure. So hydration is also. Very good for skin. So I try to be quite hydrated. And so I have like a.

[01:15:24] A subscription to. Ipsy and Boxycharm. Which is. These cosmetic. Subscriptions. And so I always get like random. Cleansers or whatnot. Which are all very good. But I don't have a specific. Like routine. So like right now. I'm using like this thing. To like. You know. To exfoliate my face. But like. When this is done. I actually really liked it. So I might buy this again. But. I don't have any specific. Brands or things that I love. It's kind of like.

[01:15:54] Want to get into this box. That I. That I like. Okay. Yeah. My morning routine is. I like. I'm like an old man. I wake up and I take like 18 pills. It's normally just like. But it's like supplements. Right. It's like. I do my vitamins. And I do my allergy medicine. And then I do my. You know. This medicine. Then I do this. Like. I just like. But first. First. Before I even get out the bed good. I'm like. Oh God. I gotta. Eat the ashwagandha. And I gotta do this. And I gotta do this. It's like. It's like. The whole thing. It takes me too long to get out of bed. But once I get out of bed.

[01:16:24] No. The ritual is fast. Like. I don't. I don't really have a skincare routine. For the morning. But if I'm about to go out somewhere. Yeah. I'm doing like. The cleanser. The toner. All that good stuff. Jacob Jones taught me. You know. He has a skin. Jacob Jones has all the skincare. Like. Adam. At. What is he? Air. Yeah. On. On Instagram and everything. Go. Yeah. Ask Jacob Jones about his skincare routine. He'll lace you up. But this was good for Damien. She says. She. What she likes to do is. Shop. Travel. Read.

[01:16:53] And drink for fun. I don't like that stuff. I thought she was going to say music. At least. Yeah. She's just. This is fun. This is fun. I guess that's work. I don't know. Shop. Travel. Read. Drink. That sounds solid. Right. We can get down with that. Yep. I'm in. Like. I like. I don't like shopping. Like in person. Oh my God. Me neither. I hate them all. I like shopping online. Like. I don't want to go to the mall necessarily. Like. If I. I'll do it. But. I don't. If I'm there. I might browse and look.

[01:17:22] I will not try anything on. If I purchase. I'll just guesstimate the size. And if I don't like it. I'll bring it back. But like. I'm not getting into a change room. But like. That's like. You be trying to get in and out. Yeah. You be trying to get in and out of there. I don't want to browse. I just want to look. And then maybe buy. But not try. So I'm a horrible packer. When I travel. So most times when I travel. I end up at a mall. You name a trip that you and I have done. I definitely went and bought clothes.

[01:17:51] On every one of those trips. It's just a hallmark. But it's not because I love to shop. It's because I don't have any clothes. And so when I go on a trip. I got to find something to wear for the trip. And it's just easier. If I could just grab something off of a shelf. So I will say that. Okay. Fine. I can respect that as well. So it comes down to Serafina. And she says. As long as we can both be princesses in this relationship. Then we're good. And they agree. Effie says that worked for her. And it's a lock. She keeps Serafina.

[01:18:21] And we have another match in this episode. So what is that? Two matches in this episode. Three? Three. We have Polly. We had Demi. And we have Effie. So three matches out of four in this episode. That's solid. Yeah. Do you think that Winnie is going to come back as a main dater? She should. Or she shouldn't. Or she should just stay single until she runs into a guy in Houston. You know? Okay. It's just saying.

[01:18:51] Okay. Maybe I'll slide into her DMs on your behalf. Now why the hell are you going to do that? If you were going to give her the ink, she'll be like, yeah, my friend want to holler at you. Yeah. Thanks, Chantel. Now she's going to block me just off of principle. Get away from her. Chantel, this was so much fun. And I have to ask, was this episode a pop or a lock? Where's my balloon? I think I... You don't have a balloon. I think it's... I do. I do. But I haven't blown it up yet. Uh-uh. I don't know. You're going to blow it up? Well, while Chantel is blowing up our balloon,

[01:19:20] make sure y'all tune in every week to Recap Gameback where we have a ton of content coming your way. We just had me and Mari talking about the Met Gala and what was coming up new in May this month. G and I have already finished our Abbott Elementary coverage, but we might have some noise stuff coming your way soon. And then, of course, Chantel and I are here every week, at least for one more week, Chantel, for Pop the Balloon. Is it only six episodes? I don't know. They're not making anything very clear. I think they left it open, so if it's a hit, they'll go with it.

[01:19:47] But if it's not, they're like, mm, Pop. Yeah. Well, we might be back for one more episode next week. We'll definitely be back next week. Now, the question is, will we be back two weeks from now? Tune in to find out. And Chantel, go ahead and answer our questions. Pop or lock? I blew this balloon up, so I could hold it, maybe. But what do you think? Oh, no. What do you think? I mean, we got three out of four matches, no? Yeah, but did you enjoy yourself? You're like, but I don't respect them. Yeah.

[01:20:19] How'd you feel? I don't have a good... I feel like it's... Listen, it could be a pop. I didn't really... I wasn't getting too much. It's a pop. It's a pop. It's a pop. It's a pop. It's a pop. But that seems to not be the case. We popped the balloon, and so we will be back next week to see if we're going to pop some more. Chantel, thank you again. Tell everybody what you're working on and where they can find you in the meantime. Ooh, on Instagram at ChanFranFran or on my channel, Reality Realness with Three S's on YouTube.

[01:20:46] I actually did some coverage for Top Chef, the most recent season that was filmed in Toronto. I got to be a diner as well as Haley at Restaurant Wars. So I did talk with her and Kurt Clark on the Top Chef recap with RHAP. So check that out. And then I also did a retrospective for BB19 with Taryn. So we just did that a couple days ago. So check that out as well. And I should be popping up a couple more times next week.

[01:21:15] So I'll be around. I'll be around. Okay. All right. You heard it here first. Check out Chantel in all those places. Make sure you check out her BB retrospective as well. And then, of course, tune in every week to RecapKickback.com. And Nothing But Netflix. Go to NothingButPod.com to keep up with what we have going on over there. We just talked about Untold colon shooting guards on Netflix with the Duo Sports and Stuff podcast. Came and joined me over there on Nothing But Netflix. And then we got some new Netflix content coming your way soon. So make sure you check that out on Nothing But Netflix.

[01:21:44] And then stay tuned every week here on Recap Kickback for what we have coming up. But until next time, you ain't got to go home, but we will catch you all around the corner to pop some more balloons. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. of