Rock of Love Kickback LIVE - Episode 7 Recap
August 31, 202601:11:43

Rock of Love Kickback LIVE - Episode 7 Recap

Every week on Recap Kickback (RecapKickback.com) we are going back in time to revisit & discuss the TV shows that defined reality television, starting with The Flavor of Love. Grab your backstage passes because this next series is all about "Rock of Love" Tune in LIVE as Chappell and his cohost Chantele dive into this iconic spinoff series featuring Brett Michael's in his journey to find love with some of the craziest women Vh1 has ever seen. This week they discuss Episode 7, "Show Me Your Hits". Let us know your thoughts about the episode in the comment section. #CharmSchool #FlavorOfLove #TheFlavorOfLove #VH1 #Celebreality #RealityTV #NewYork #RecapKickback #RHAP #TiffanyPollard #FlavorFlav #TVRecaps #RockOfLove Subscribe to Recap Kickback here: ⁠⁠RecapKickback.com/Subscribe⁠ Follow Chappell on social media - @RecapKickback Follow Chantele and Reality Realnesss - @RealityRealnesss Special thanks to Leaf Vxllage for the Recap Kickback theme music "Wall Maria"

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[00:00:20] Hey, what's up fam and welcome back again to Recap Kickback presents the Rock of Love Kickback here on RecapKickback.com. That's right. It's me, your host Chappelle and I am back again to talk to you about another episode of Rock of Love as a part of our Flavor of Love cinematic universe rewatch here on RecapKickback.com. And with me fresh off of her trip to Milwaukee, Wisconsin and RHAPCON, it's Chantel Francis. Chantel, welcome back.

[00:00:46] Woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo. I'm sad to be back. You're sad? You miss Wisconsin that much? It was a really good time. Yeah, it looked like fun. It was a really good time. Yeah, it looked like fun. I'm very jealous that I didn't get to be there.

[00:01:08] Yes, and I think that no matter what, if there's a next year, which it looks like there will be, you have to be there. We'll see if I can get off work. You know, this time I was not able to do that. You know, I don't have the flexibility that I used to have when I worked for RHAP full time because that was something that Rob made sure that I could do was attend these live events and host the live podcast and all that kind of stuff.

[00:01:36] But that contract is over. And so now I only get to do RHAP when I can. And unfortunately, my full time job takes precedent. So, yeah, it was so much fun watching you all do it. And fingers crossed, I will be able to come to the next one. Maybe you'll have it here in Texas and then it won't be so hard for me to miss work. Well, I feel like maybe a live show is going to be in Texas, but I don't know about RAPCON. I think that's what somebody told me. Okay. I don't know anything.

[00:02:04] But actually, maybe they're going to go back to Texas again. That's maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Well, the chat saying do it in Texas or at least me and Michael Horner. And so maybe we will get a chance to do that. Did you talk to anybody about the Flavor of Love rewatch series while you were there? Every single person came up to me and talked about it. People are really enjoying our rewatch or coverage. Like they're just like they've been eating it up from what they've been telling me. So we're doing something fun and good here.

[00:02:34] And like so what would be cool, though, is next year now that I know the flow of things, because like, you know, I was asked if I how I want to contribute. I said, like, I'll do any podcast. I said, I'll play any in any game. Like so I just was like available to do a lot of things. But if you're coming, we can create a whole Flavor of Love segment in, you know, as part of the convention.

[00:02:59] And, you know, pal was just it was just Booyah, but Booyah had a little, you know, a little segment. Mike and Mary did some like a game shows that were Big Brother related. So we could maybe do, I don't know, a Flavor of Love thing, games, anything. The world is our oyster. So I think it could be fun to have a little a little room or a booth or something like that, that we could do some Flavor of Love stuff.

[00:03:26] Yeah, I don't think we'll be done with this series by this time next year. And so if it happens in the next year or so, then, yeah, I think we could definitely pull that off and we can use some of the stuff we've been talking about live here as a way to talk about it. Thundercats in the chat saying dress up as your favorite of love character. I definitely think I'm coming as Mr. Boston at that point, you know, with with the little speedo, you know what I'm saying? Oh, you get your legs out? I had to get my legs out, you know what I'm saying? Let them see the goods.

[00:03:55] But yeah, I can see us having a little fun with that. But on a more serious note to all the listeners who have been paying close attention to this rewatch, y'all know that we've been doing this with Chantel being completely blind as to what's going on and me knowing all the things that are coming. But Chantel has some news for everybody. In these recent weeks, people have been very reckless with the spoilers. And Chantel, you have to lace everybody up on what's been going on.

[00:04:23] Well, people don't seem to understand, believe the fact that I haven't seen these shows. So they think that maybe like I'm doing a rewatch because I had already watched them and not realizing that I haven't seen them or actually have an idea of what's coming. So a friend of mine, she had watched this series with one of my best friends when they were living in Japan. And so I wasn't in like their zeitgeist of them watching.

[00:04:53] And so like, but they just assume because we watch all reality TV shows, like we watch Sheila Tequila together. They just kind of assumed that I was part of that. They just didn't think any otherwise. And so they're like, oh, my God, you're doing the Rock of Love. Like, oh, my God, like there's three seasons. Aren't you so excited? And I was like, oh, three seasons. Oh, oh. And then I was like, hey, stop talking. Like, don't stop spoiling me. I'm like, I'll tell you exactly what I've seen.

[00:05:23] So I tell her the flavor of love season one and two. I love New York charm school. And now I'm on Rock of Love. She goes, well, if you've seen charm school, doesn't that spoil Rock of Love for you? It's like ding, ding, ding. I guess that means there's a Rock of Love with the flavor of love girls. And she's like, oh, my gosh, I forgot that there was one before.

[00:05:47] And so that same person before I told her to stop spoiling me, she sent me because she was so excited. She sent me, I didn't watch it, but a clip of Heather, what Heather looks like now, her Instagram being like she wants to do like a Netflix special or something on her time with the Rock of Love experience. So I said that to you. So I just I only saw like the actual just like the first still. I didn't listen to it or anything like that. So I don't know what else she said.

[00:06:14] And then lastly, when I was complaining to my second friend about the first friend, she's like, well, just let me know when you get to the season that doesn't air because one of the contestants was a murderer. And I was like, that's a big spoiler, Karen. That's a big spoiler. It's a big spoiler. That's a big one. And yeah, we have been working up to some of these things for sure.

[00:06:44] I think last week when we talked about it, you had mentioned a spoiler or two. And I said, well, maybe some of it's not a spoiler and some of it we're not going to even touch on. But then I checked the comments and you're not, of course, allowed to check the comments. But I did. And people were like, oh, we're talking about it. We're going you're going to cover those things. We're going to talk about those things. I was like, well, we don't have to. They're like, no, no, no. I think even Horn Hub is in the chat saying, no, we've established we're watching them all. So, Chantel, I would really like to know. We're just going to stop down here. Episode seven of Rock of Love.

[00:07:14] And we are going to I'm going to I'm going to document everything that you think is coming forward. OK. And so, Chantel, if you had to spoil this show for all of us, what do you think is coming up? Tell me just just right after this one. No, any ideas you have. What do you think is coming? If you have heard something and you see like in the back of your head, it's coming. What do you got? One thing that I've heard that I can think of right now is Rock of Love bus. OK. Rock of Love bus.

[00:07:44] So and I don't know if that's included in two other seasons of Rock of Love. So not sure. Mm hmm. It seems like there'll be a charm school, too, with the Rock of Love girls. And I think and some show that doesn't get to end up airing. I don't know. Extra show. Yeah. OK. OK.

[00:08:11] Well, look, Chantel, I'm not going to lie to you. These things are coming. And so we will talk about them when they do come. But for all the listeners and the people who are not listening, wherever you are, leave Chantel alone. She don't want to talk about these shows with y'all. She's talking about them with us here. If you want to talk about with us, you join us here on the chat. And then we let Chantel get surprised. So Chantel, one last question about spoilers. Do you know what we're watching directly after this? All right.

[00:08:41] And we're going to try to keep it that way, family. And so make sure you don't tell Chantel anything. If you are in the chat, I see Daniel in the chat. Look, we're going to try to watch it all. We're not watching For the Love of Ray J. It's not happening. Let it go. Maybe we'll do a page. I'm coming up next. No, that is definitely not coming up next. Listen, we could do it. But maybe we'll save that for Patreon or something like that. Maybe in the future, we'll do a little something extra. Okay.

[00:09:09] But yeah, this all started as a way to get Chantel the backstory of New York. And now it has evolved into so much more. And so as long as Chantel is here to talk about these shows live, I'm down to talk about them too. We just want to keep the spoilers to a minimum. So during the live show, sorry, FOMO. I was doing the newlywed game with Matt Scott. Okay. And one of the questions, so I was sitting down, he was behind me.

[00:09:38] He was answering questions about me. And Mike, was it Mike? I think Mike Bloom was the host here. And at, or was it Mary? I don't know. It's someone's host. And they asked, who would your partner, me, want to interview the most? Okay. So who do you think I would put? You gotta, you gotta, well, I was going to say New York, but I'm kind of like, Matt would probably put hottie.

[00:10:06] Oh, like, I don't know if Matt would want hottie more than New York. What about you? So I said New York. Right. And so like, Matt's like, okay, just like, don't overthink it. Don't overthink it. So I'm like, I'm not going to overthink it. I'm going to write New York. Yeah. Easy peasy. Matt overthinks it. What do you think? Flav? I knew it. See? And that's the problem. You was doing a newlywed game with somebody you ain't even married to. I'm your husband. This is our game. Okay.

[00:10:35] Matt is just the third in this relationship. All right. He doesn't get to be your newlywed game partner. We would have killed it. Chantel. We would have killed it. I know. Okay. So, okay. Actually, let me ask you another question. Matt's going to cover us right now. Fuck Matt. Okay. This is hard. Okay. And it was hard for everybody that was playing. So, oh yeah. Mike was playing with Jessica Lee. So, he wasn't the host. Oh, it was Maggie. It was Maggie. It was Maggie. Okay. Okay.

[00:11:03] So, out of these three options, where would you most likely find your partner? Me. At the bar. On the dance floor. Or a third option that I can't remember right now. On the dance floor. At a wedding. At a wedding. At a wedding. On the dance floor. Because even if you're at a wedding or at a bar, you're going to find your way to the dance floor. Or at least that's how I look at you. What was the answer? On the dance floor.

[00:11:33] Okay. What did Matt Scott say? He must have said at the bar. He said at the bar. He don't know you like I know you. He don't know you like I know you. And he's like, shut up. We always go to the bar. I'm like, but we're at a bar. We're at a bar. Yeah. At a wedding. We're on the dance floor. Yeah. And after I leave the bar, I'm going to the dance floor. Absolutely. Shots, then dance floor. Drink, then dance floor. Yeah. Shantelle, what would you have picked for me? Dance floor. Exactly. Yeah.

[00:12:03] I think so. Even the shot o'clock dance floor for sure. Yeah. Look, Matt's not. He's not in this room. He's not in this family like he thinks he is. He's not one of us. That's crazy. Yeah. We would have cleaned up. We would have cleaned up so easily. Yeah. They're lucky we weren't able to make it. Maybe next time. Okay. Another one. Okay. Right or wrong. Which show? I think I did this for Matt. But anyways, we could do it for Matt anyways.

[00:12:33] Would Matt be best on or do the best on? Big Brother, Survivor, or The Amazing Race? Oh, God. I don't even know if Matt's ever been in a vehicle. So I would love to say Amazing Race, but I don't know if he has any skills for that kind of thing. Like, I really wish I knew more about Matt's travel habits, you know? But yeah, maybe Big Brother. I couldn't see him on Survivor.

[00:13:01] I said Big Brother because he likes things. He's comfortable, right? Yeah. He wants to get the houses. You know what I mean? And so I said Big Brother. Yeah. He's uncomfortable. What did he say? Survivor. Now, Matt, why do you feel that way? I was like Survivor. See, you and I are in sync, okay? Hey, Matt, he's the problem. Not us, okay? Like, we're not the issue here. So, yeah.

[00:13:28] It's tough, but I'm so glad our third member of our family here was able to step in and be there as a representative for you. Thundercat said Matt was wrong about himself. She's correct. And so, yeah. So, big shout out to everybody who was able to talk to Chantel and to come to RapCom. Mr. Roybot says it was fun. I drank all day for three days and had time and a half. Mr. Roybot, where did I put it? You got to send it to me so I can put it up on the screen. Yeah. But, yeah. But, yeah.

[00:13:57] Mr. Roybot, next time, you know, you have to drink with me because that's what I like to do as well. But, again, I'm drinking then going to the dance floor. Okay. So, we have to talk about this episode because we are back live here talking about this Rock of Love journey. And we're seven episodes in. And so, I'm very excited because we are creeping up. I think this is the episode with the sexy six. And so, we are creeping up on the finale just slowly but truly. But, we have to still weed out some of these background characters.

[00:14:25] And today is the Mia episode. It's finally here. We've been talking about it for weeks. We don't know this woman. Brett doesn't know this woman. But, for some reason, she's still in the game. Chantel, I think we heard more from Mia in this episode than we've heard across the entire season. Well, you know, because it was her boot episode. Her boot episode, she had to have a little bit more of a visibility spike, which she did. But, she also didn't at the same time.

[00:14:54] Like, this episode was all about her. But, like, she had no part in it. Yeah. The episode was about how Mia was absent from the episode. It was like, I don't know much about Mia. Mia's in the background. Mia's not stepping up. Mia's this. I was like, damn, Mia, you can't catch a break. But, she really couldn't. You know, even in this episode, Brett's like, I just want Mia to stand out. We're like, well, she could probably stand out on the TV show if you actually showed her on TV. But, I guess you're not going to do that. So, yeah. It was very much the story of Mia.

[00:15:23] And, yeah. It was time, right? I feel like it was about time. We kind of played out the Mia storyline a little bit this entire time, you know? So, let me see. Oh, look. Before we get to Mia too much. Mr. Robot. What's up? Yes. Mr. Robot, look like you've been drinking. Okay? I can tell. Look. I need my people. But, yeah. Man, that's so cool. I'm so jealous. So jealous.

[00:15:52] Brittany says in the chat, Mia was that one person in Big Brother who gets far for doing absolutely nothing. We got to finally get them booted out to get to the real game. Absolutely. Absolutely. She lasted like four episodes too long. Absolutely. There's so many people that I would have rather seen the don't threaten me with a good time girl for longer than Mia. Like your other Brittany. Rodeo, Brandy C. You know, like there are so many people that we've kind of lost along the way. I'm like, how did Mia make it this far? She seems nice.

[00:16:22] She's very pretty. And I think Brett was into that. But what? Did she like Brett? Like why is she on the show? Like what? Like what's your deal? We'll never know. We'll never know because they didn't even, I mean, we never even got like a confessional about like, does she know his music? Does she not know his music? Like we heard so much about that from everybody else. We didn't learn any of that from Mia. And maybe a part of it is because she is surrounded by some camera hogs. Some indeed, like some big time camera hogs.

[00:16:49] And we will see that come into play in this episode because Brett is going to the studio for a little bit. Was this a spoiler though when you said we never hear from her again, basically? I mean, I'm just saying we never hear from her here. Now, if they bring Mia back for a rock of love charm school, that would be incredible because why would she need to be there? Yeah, she wouldn't. Well, you kind of need to have a bunch of different people, like maybe her to step up and show her personality more, like not be such like a wallflower kind of like, you

[00:17:17] know, like don't allow her to get trampled by the likes of Lexi and then, you know, Heathers. And so maybe it's for her to. To toughen up. To toughen up. Yeah. Be assertive. Show yourself a little bit more. Maybe we could see Mia in that, in that light. I don't think it, I think it would be the biggest casting miss we've had so far. Cause I mean, rock of love, I'm sorry. Flavor of love charm school. No skips. Everybody came to play.

[00:17:45] You know, even Toasty was there for the right, you know, for what I needed her there for. So I'm sorry, Mia. I personally don't need to see you back on my screen. And there's nothing that you did wrong. You seem like a lovely person. So no house of villains casting. Is she a villain? No. Yeah. I was like, is she a hero? Is she there? I mean, if anything else, bring her back for season two of rock of love. You know, let her try again. Brett wouldn't even know that he had met her before. He was like, I'll give you a nickname. I'm going to call you Mia.

[00:18:14] You know, she's like, that's my name. So he's going to the studio. He's leaving them with an assignment. They have some work to do because while he's gone, he wants them to do a modeling shoot for his new album cover. And so the girls are going to break up into teams and the different teams are going to do a different shoot. You're going to have one creative director and then two models for each team. Unfortunately, Lacey and Heather are both. Still in the game. And nobody is going to be very excited to work with them.

[00:18:44] I think Lacey to me is the house pariah and nobody really wants to work with her. And so it really sucks for the team that gets stuck with Lacey because I think she ends up on the team with Jess and Sam and Lacey does not want to play whatever games they want to play. Not only does she want to be the model, but she also wants to win as creative director. She wants to take all the credit for everything that's been done. She wants to choose the photos and then she wants to tell Brett that nobody else had any type of input at all. Yeah. She's not a good team player.

[00:19:14] Group project. Working with her would be the worst. To be honest, I would just let her do it. I don't care. If it's good, you take it. It's bad. You take the credit. I'm not going to fight hard for this one. I'm sorry. I just wouldn't do it. The problem. I mean, if I really liked the guy, maybe I'd care more. But yeah, I think the problem here is that Lacey is the model. Sam is the model.

[00:19:43] But also Jess, I think is the creative director. And Jess has had a solo date with Brett before. She's like, oh yeah, this is my perfect opportunity to get another one. Lacey should just be the creative director. Right? So then that way, if it goes poorly, you can blame Lacey. She could be the fall person. But she didn't want to put her neck on the line there. Well, that. And if you're Jess, do you even want Lacey to get the solo date? I'm throwing it.

[00:20:12] Well, they should have, because we've seen some strategy going. They should have let her be the creative director. And then vomit! Yeah, throw it. They weren't playing right. And I get it. Sam's probably like, I want to get more time with Brett. But I don't know, man. Yeah, that's not going to get you cast on Rock of Love, Charm School. Okay? What are we doing here? Step it up.

[00:20:39] Flash, so the final five, though, I can kind of see most of them on it for their own reasons. You know what I mean? And so, I don't know about Jess. Like, what would Jess possibly be on there for? Like, being too young? Like, being 22 to dating a 50-year-old man? Like, you know, like, what is that? That hair. It looked good that one time. I stand by that. She looked really pretty when she did her hair. That's what's going to happen, though. They're going to, instead of, like, changing their name, remove their name tag, it's like,

[00:21:09] like, getting a flat iron to that hair and getting rid of the pig, you know? Monique is going to be like, Jess, that hair was so ugly. Sister, what is your real hair like? This is my real hair. I'm like, yeah, exactly. So, I could see something like that, man. Who do you think would be hosting it, though? Sorry. I guess that's a good question. Who do you even think would host Rock of Love Charm School? Well, I would feel like it'd be, like, a rock and roll matriarch of some sort.

[00:21:40] Okay. But who? Right. Who? Who? Who? Yeah, who? Okay. Who are those around the time? I'm like, Cher? Like, I don't know. Come on, Cher. Yes. Okay. We'll come back to that. I'll let you pontificate on that for a little bit, because we do have to talk about the other team. It's Mia's team. She's the creative director. And she should very much want to be the creative director. She's never had any solo time with Brett.

[00:22:09] So, she should be using this opportunity to get that. Unfortunately, she's on a team with Brandy M and Heather. And Heather immediately tells Mia, I'm not doing what you want to do. I'm doing what I want to do. I'm just going to do my own thing. And somehow Brandy M ends up dressed like a man. Where did that idea come from? I don't know. But from jump, if I'm me, I'm like, oh no, I've made a mistake.

[00:22:37] Because why would y'all think Brett wants to see a woman dressed like a man on his photo? Do y'all know anything about this man? And packing? Packing? Right. Yeah. What? So, for the people who have not seen the episode, she stuffs her crotch area. She dresses like a man. She has gray hair, a gray beard, gray armpit hair. And then also, she stuffs her crotch with gray hair as well in order to make herself have a bulge. And this is for Brett Michaels' album cover.

[00:23:06] I'm not quite sure if I'm Brett Michaels what I would even think she was insinuating. I don't, I didn't understand. It was a very, very odd choice. Um, especially because I think she's so pretty. Yeah. I just didn't understand why she wanted to dress like a man. She's a clown. Brandy M is a clown. Like, she's... She just wants to joke. She's so goofy. Yeah. Um, Brittany points out how unserious she is.

[00:23:36] Yeah. She, to me, she just wanted to dress like a dude so she could be like, my balls itch. You know? She's like, Heather's hot. I'd fuck her. You know? I was like, Brandy, I did. You too busy playing make-believe when we're trying to win this challenge. If I was Mia, I would have got to cussing everybody out. No, I think that Mia should have been like, sorry, this is just a no. Like, this is not happening. Like, I don't know why she... Like, that was something that was obvious. Like, obviously, you know, choosing the photos and this and that, it might be a little bit easier for them to steamroll.

[00:24:05] But it's very clear that that's a bad idea. Like, I think you could get them to get behind you on that one. And she couldn't even assert that. So annoying. It kind of feels like they're throwing. You know? I'm not saying they would. Because if they were, I think Heather would have told us. But I do find it odd that Mia's the creative director. Her only idea we ever hear is that she's like, okay, I'm thinking, let's go with innocence. Innocence. Okay? Can we work with that? And Heather's like, no. And she just changes.

[00:24:34] And then next thing you know, she's laying across a car. And she's taking pictures of the hot lady on top of a car. And then Brandy M comes out dressed like an old-ass man. But now, if Brandy M still did the male role, but as herself. Oh, yeah. She's a tomboy version. You know what I mean? Yeah. Backwards cap. And like, yeah, I got... That, I think he could get behind. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[00:25:03] Like, you know, I think he would find... That would go on the scale. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Mia, you know, I've been kind to her by saying that she's been invisible. But then she does have one bad idea. She says, I thought it was original that Brandy M was dressed as a man. And so I didn't really push back against it. Like, hey, hey, you got to remember who your target audience is. This is Brad Michaels. Everything makes him horny. I'm sure Mia dressed as a man... I'm sorry. Brandy dressed as a man is not going to just move the needle. You know? Like, Heather's got the right idea.

[00:25:33] Sex sells. But, you know, she's not... Why did she hard know that, though? I don't think she cared. I kind of... Like I said, I don't know if she... I kind of think she's throwing. You know? Like, it just feels like... She's like, as long as I look good, I don't care about anybody else or anything else that's going on. Daniel points out in the chat that Heather didn't... She wanted to be the hottest competition. You know? The hottest model. And so, like, I kind of think that's what it was. Like, you do whatever you want. I'm just going to look good. So, Brett remembers me.

[00:26:02] Now, did they know what kind of props that they had? Or, like... I don't know. We saw them, like, pulling out dresses and feather boas and stuff like that. So, they had a lot of stuff to work for them. Yeah. I'm trying to think of, like, what I would do. You know? Okay. I've been getting girls in bikinis and... Easily. Like, laying around. Is there not, like, a guitar around or something like that? You know? Like... Ooh! Remember in Flavor of Love? Making your guitar? Yeah. Remember in Flavor of Love?

[00:26:30] Or maybe it was Charm School when they were... Oh, yeah. It was Charm School when Dara and... I forgot who the other two people were. They got naked and they covered themselves up and they were selling that perfume. And it was, like... It was really good. Right? Because it was, like... It was, like, naked. Which we know, you know, the girls' sex sells. But also kind of, like, tasteful. Like, I feel like... Get behind the guitar. Cover up with that part. You know what I'm saying? Like, we see Heather Topless all the time. You know? You mean to tell me y'all can't make it rock? Guess not. Guess not. Yeah.

[00:27:01] Dara, Lailene, and Brooke. Yeah. Brandy is also a dancer, right? I don't... Someone's called it out, but I don't know if it was true or not. Yeah. There were so many strippers on this show. But, you know, they call her blowjob Brandy. So I don't think she'd be opposed to, you know, at least showing a little skin. Yeah. Well, I mean, they're all wearing, like, little, like, small outfits anyways. Like, I don't know. They couldn't... She just should not be wearing pants and a go-tee. And poop hair.

[00:27:31] You know what I'm saying? Like, what? What are we doing? Yeah. Confirmed. She was also a dancer. So, yeah. This is tough. This is just like... I just feel like a team with two strippers should be able to pull together an album cover that isn't just like this. Like, where is the pole? Two girls on the pole? Lean into what you know. Do what you're good at. Two girls on a pole, in a bikini, with a guitar. Right.

[00:28:01] I think if I'm Brett, I'm like, hey, I'm turned on. Let's do it. So, yeah. It's not going great for the creative directors because, you know, as we said, Heather's not really interested in any of these ideas. And Lacey is being a legitimate demon throughout this entire episode. This episode, it's the Mia Boot episode. But, Chantel, I want to say at least five scenes were dedicated to the other women just snitching on Lacey and being like, she is awful. She sucks. Why is she even here?

[00:28:28] Because the producers really like her and she is a demon. She's a demon. Yeah. Like, the idea that Lacey has not been on House of Villains is actually kind of crazy now that you watch this back and think about it because she's one note. She doesn't have any endearing qualities. Like, at least New York had, like, she was funny. You know, New York was funny. She could kind of, like, somehow she was charming enough to where it's like she was insane, but we were still kind of rooting for her. Right?

[00:28:55] Like, there were definitely moments where we were like, is she in love with him? Because it doesn't make sense for her to be in love with him. But, I mean, she does feel like she's in love with him, you know? I do not think that Lacey's in love with Brent. If that's the parallel you're making, like, no. Yeah, I don't see it at all. I don't know if there's any type of connection between the two of them. So, you're right. I think the producers are just like, we need the drama. If we get rid of Lacey, I mean, Heather's still there.

[00:29:21] But imagine how boring this show would be if it was just, like, Sam, Jess, Mia. Well, I mean, they got rid of all the other... The entertaining people. Yeah. I mean, it's still entertaining, obviously. But, like, you know, people that could have maybe stepped into that role are all gone. Yeah. So, it's bad. I mean, but this is basically just the Lacey is the devil story.

[00:29:47] Their theme for their photo shoot is even good versus evil. And it's like, oh, yeah, we have an angel and Sam. And then we also have Lacey the devil or the demon. And so, they get on top of each other. They're taking photos together. Lacey's, of course, trying to control every aspect of it. But I'll give Jess this. For her to be, like, 22, 23 years old, she really is standing her ground. She's not going to let Lacey bully her. Absolutely. Like, dig your heels in.

[00:30:15] But she's probably realizing that, like, she's getting some airtime when she does some interactions with Lacey. Maybe they're starting to all learn that, like, oh, I'm going to use this for, like, as a stepping stone. You know? Maybe they'll just realize... Go ahead. No, I was going to say, I don't even really know what Jess does. School? Like, I don't know. What are you doing? Like, at 20s old? Like, yeah, she's in college, maybe? I don't know. Maybe she is going to use this to move forward.

[00:30:42] But even if she genuinely likes Brett, it's definitely good to, you know, not let Lacey just bully you out of screen time, for sure. I mean, what would I do? I'd probably be friends with Lacey. Yeah, I think so. I think that's what you do. I think if you can't beat her, join her, you know? And then maybe just, like, roll my eyes in confessionals, but, like... Oh, talk mad shit. Yeah, talk mad shit in confessional. Also, talk shit to Brett about her, you know what I'm saying? But, like, in her face? Yeah, Lacey, you're so cool.

[00:31:12] Me and you versus the rest of these bitches. You know, that kind of thing? Make sure she's targeted on other people, and then you can focus on what really matters. Because I think that's kind of what Heather's doing. Yeah, because there's no way that Heather actually likes her. She'd rather her not be targeting her, like, angst towards Heather. Yeah, and the chat is pointing out that... Oh, look, Jess does hair. That pink hair. Yeah. Just other people's hair. I'm sure she did her own, sadly.

[00:31:43] Yeah, so this is bad, right? Like, so, obviously, one team is having a harder time than the other, but when they get home, Lacey and Heather are already back plotting on how they can take control. They're both like, hey, I don't think it's right that the creative directors are the ones getting the photo shoot when we done all the work. So when Sam gets a package, they get their prints for their presentation, and they have to make their presentations make sense. They got some feedback.

[00:32:09] So, for instance, Mia's team was asked, why is there an old man here? Are you saying that Brett is an old man? And so they have to be able to explain that away. Hey, Mia knows this. But when it's time for her to answer the questions, she just freezes up. Like, they literally gave her that feedback and said, hey, why is there an old man here? Chantel, in front of Brett, he says, do you think I'm an old man? And she's like, it's not necessarily you per se. Dot, dot, dot.

[00:32:37] Now, you have to practice these things. You know, you have to rehearse what you're going to say, especially since they gave you, they asked you the question already for you to be able to prepare. So it's unfortunately that she froze. Yeah. And there's two people on her team who are very ready to throw her under the bus. Because Brandy M is like, oh, wait, they thought I looked dumb as a man? Yeah. That's Mia's fault. She should have told me I looked dumb.

[00:33:07] She should have stepped up. And so Brandy M's like, she's ready to join forces with Heather just to make sure that it's Mia taking the fall instead of her. Well, she has to take the fall for that, though. She does. She does. She's the creative director. She says yes or no. She's supposed to say yes or no to these things. That's a no. It's a big no. Hard no. Big no. Big no. She's like, it was Brandy. It's my idea, but I'm not taking the blame for it. And Heather basically said the same thing.

[00:33:34] Now, on the other team, Lacey is fully ready to take all the credit. She's like, oh, trying to change the idea. She won't let Sam talk. She won't let Jess talk. They're pushing back. Of course, they don't let her kind of run her over. But whatever Lacey leads the role, the girls are talking. They're like, she's manipulative. They call her a C-word, a dumb F-ing C-word bitch. You know, it's like, oh, my God. Like, just the hits keep on coming on Lacey. But she's not fazed by any of this. I wonder what it would be like to live with her. Because, like, we're only seeing snippets of her.

[00:34:03] Like, she would be annoying. Yeah, she's the worst. Of all the people that people have lived with in these last two seasons of television, like, that we've watched. So, Flavor of Love, season one and two. I think that Lacey's the worst roommate of all of them. God. I hate, and I don't love her voice. Like, it's also grating. So, like, all of the above. Like, what are her redeeming qualities? I got nothing. Like, at least Hottie was funny.

[00:34:33] And, like, she could sing. And she could sing. Hottie could sing. Flav said that was her gift that God gave her. You know, so... Daniel says maybe Tango. Tango sucks, too. Tango does suck. Yeah, absolutely. Tango sucks. I think Romance sucked as well. If you want to bring the men in, I think there are a lot worse options over there with the men. But for sure, as far as the women goes, the don't thread me with a good time lady, I think she's probably worse than Lacey, right? No. I'd hang out with her before I'd hang out with Lacey.

[00:35:03] Same. Same. Same. Yeah, Lacey sucks. She's at least, like, she's just, like, a drunk mess. Like, Lacey's fine. Yeah, that's not an issue. That's fine. Put her to bed. Lacey's awful sober. Yeah. So, yeah, I think Lacey's the worst. I honestly agree. They're all, like, jumping her in this episode, really trying to get her put out. But Brett's just not trying to hear it. And so they're all talking about how mean she is, how manipulative she is. And Lacey ends up going to Brett and being like,

[00:35:32] oh, yeah, just so you know. Jess ain't shit. She's just a hairstylist. She is not a creative director. Like, they're just throwing each other in the bus over and over again. And I wonder what Brett is actually thinking. He's, like, could be a father to all these children. These women. And, like, they're coming to be like, Dad! Like, you know, Lacey's being mean. Like, I don't know.

[00:36:01] Would he find it a bit juvenile? I would. But at the same time, I'm like, well, Brett, what are you going to do, right? If everybody's complaining about Lacey, if she sucks this much around the people in this game, you have to imagine that she's going to suck in real life, right? Like, there's no way. This is just, like, I'm turning it on so I can win the game and I'm going to go be normal with Brett. You know, I think we saw Flav kind of deal with that with New York. He's like, New York's the only one who's really here for me. New York's real. New York's not here for the rest of y'all. She's not here to make friends.

[00:36:29] By the end of season two, he's like, nah, New York, you like your mama and I can't deal with that. You know? He's like, you know, he said, this is not, this is not, I don't know what you think this is. You know, that last episode, that finale, where her and Delicious are out there in Mexico. New York is really starting to show what she would be like as Flav's girlfriend. And he did not like any of that, even though he acted like he would like it in season one. Absolutely. And the thing is, I would hope that my partner gets along with people. Right. It's just, it's people.

[00:37:00] Yeah. Maybe there's certain people that you have conflicts with. So like there's a couple one-offs, maybe it'd be like, I don't get along with that person, et cetera. But in general, I do not want everybody to be talking about my person being like, she's the devil. It just, I don't know. I just don't know if I want to be defending that all the time. Right. Exactly. You can't take her nowhere. Cause you know, she's going to act weird, especially if she starts to feel jealous or even just like, she's not getting enough attention or, you know,

[00:37:29] cause Lacey's not doing this because she, um, she just is bored. She's like, I'm doing this because I am threatened by these other people and I want them out. So imagine how she would act if she wanted to gain something from making other people look bad. Like Thundercat said, no one wants to partner. You can't take nowhere. Um, so, uh, let's get to the photo shoots. Uh, or like, uh, I guess our deliberation, America's next top model style. Uh, here's our first team, uh, Mia, uh, uh, uh,

[00:37:56] Brandy M and Heather and their album color for broken road. Now it is a picture. If you're watching this on YouTube, we do have a picture of Heather sitting on top of a car, Brandy M dressed as a man. And then, uh, kind of like the open road in the background. So tell, what do you think about this photo overall? Uh, it's terrible. Yeah. It's not great. I don't even think Heather looks that great in this.

[00:38:23] The styling is, I mean, I don't love when Heather does her hair. She's not great at hair. Um, and obviously we don't like, what's her name? Brandy's dressed up as a man. Right. But I do like the road in the background. I think that there's something that we could have done there. Like have two women laying in bikinis on the road or something like that. It would be probably hot. And you'd probably be like, Ooh, that's so dangerous.

[00:38:52] Like, Oh, I don't know. I just feel like there's so much they could have done with this background and scenery that like, they just didn't do it all. Yeah. If nothing else, get in the car, let your hair down, you know, get the fan going, blow the wind, you know what I'm saying? Or something like, it looks like you ride down the road, the highway or something. Um, even broken road to me, does that even mean like as an album title? Yeah. Is broken road a thing?

[00:39:23] Uh, can you break a road? I don't think so. I mean, I think though, like the, there could, the, you know, it could be like gravelly, you know, like maybe under construction. Broken road. Road work. Road work's better. Yeah. I just don't know what they were going for. I'm not quite sure what the idea was. Okay. Well, Rascal Flats has a song called bless the broken road. Okay. Okay. That means there's something there.

[00:39:53] Okay. So there is songs called broken road. So maybe does he, does he actually have a song called that? I don't think so. I don't think they know anything about Brett's music. Um, but Daniel says it's a good song. Uh, bless the broken road. Yeah. See, and then like, if you're talking about Rascal Flats, like life is a highway. That's a thing that's already been done. Uh, you know, uh, they remade that song obviously. Uh, so, I mean, I don't think you just go to somebody else's song, but I don't know. I just didn't like it.

[00:40:23] I didn't know what they were going for. And so I'm not surprised that they're not the winners here. Um, but let's look at the other team and their, uh, you know, photo here. We have the team of Lacey, Sam and Jess and the album cover when love dances with the devil. Now, Brett says this album cover might not get shown in the Bible belt at all. Chantel, but he still picked it as his winner. What do you think about it? It's way better. Way better.

[00:40:53] The title is a little bit long. It's a little worthy, but it's a way better album cover. I think they, I think they both look really good. Uh, like her demon eyes are shining through. Um, yeah, like they could have just said dances with dancing with the devil or whatever, but that might be too, like there might be too many titles and they maybe couldn't use that. But other than the title being long, this is a way, way better album cover.

[00:41:23] Yeah, for sure. It's a little cliche. You know, I think that the, the angel versus devil thing, like I agree with me. It is, it has been done right. We've seen that a million times over. Um, but it works. That's why it's been done so many times. Like that's the reason why it does. It's easy to go to. You have two scantily clad women laying on top of each other. And you thought Brett was going to pick you dressed as a man. Yeah. You must not know this man.

[00:41:53] You don't know Brett Michaels. If you thought this was going to fly. Um, so yeah, it definitely turned them on. Um, and so, uh, I don't know. I just feel like this is bad. Um, yeah, I just don't, I don't know. They, so I'm happy that. I'm happy that Jess and Sam were able to win this. I am not happy for Lacey in any shape, form or fashion. It's just, she's not a character. It's easy to root for. Yeah. Cause she, there's never a likable side to her. Right.

[00:42:18] Like even in any of her interactions with Brett, she's always talking about the other women or, you know what I mean? Like, like, is she ever nice? I don't mind. Wait, wait, who did the photo shoot? Was it her? What? Oh, the creative director? After. Oh. Right. No, no, that was Heather and, uh, that was Heather and, uh, Brandy. It was Heather. Um, yeah. Oh yeah. Cause they were. Right. Um, I think though with the, yeah, there's no redeeming qualities and that's a problem

[00:42:48] that with, with Lacey is that like, there's nothing to like about her that they've shown. Right. Mr. Mr. Roy Boyd points out that she's nice to animals, but that's it. And honestly, even being nice to animals is starting to piss the other girls off. Brandy M is over it. She's like, I'm tired of hearing about Lacey just complaining all the time. If you're nice to animals, but not nice to humans. I think that you being nice to animals is just so people think that you're a good person. Exactly.

[00:43:14] Cause like, you should be nice to all these, these, these creatures of the world, you know? Exactly. It was like, I was vegan for like 12 years because I saw this movie called Earthlings and it was narrated by Joaquin Phoenix. And it was just showing about how human beings are just so awful with their gluttonous approach to just slaughtering animals, you know?

[00:43:37] And so like, it just grossed me out so much that I just cold toed Turkey stopped contributing to the mass production and overproduction and overconception of animal products. And so I understand like wanting to be kind to animals and like not wanting to kill them, but like you also want to be kind to other human beings. Like that particular documentary was talking about like how human beings are not nice to anybody.

[00:44:04] And so like, you kind of have to be nice to everybody if you, if you want to claim that you're a vegan in my opinion. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, that makes sense. I remember the documentary that radicalized me was, uh, Blackfish on Netflix. It's the one about, um, Tilikum, I think is his name. The, the whale at SeaWorld, uh, the killer whales that they have, the orcas. And so you like, first of all, totally recommend it if you haven't watched it on Netflix.

[00:44:29] Uh, but I was ready to drive my ass to, to San Antonio and just like stand outside with my picket sign. Like FC world, shut this bitch down. Like I was so ready to shut it down. Like I, something about those documentaries that really like show that they, I was like the animals and you know, the stuff that they go through for no, no fault of their own. It's like, yeah, it'll, it'll turn you into like a freedom fighter for sure.

[00:44:56] Cause I was ready to go release those whales. Okay. It's on site for SeaWorld. Exactly. Yeah. Once I saw the dorsal fin Roybot, it was over. Okay. I was done. I was like, I'm sick of this. And so I get it, but at the same time, I'm also nice to people, you know, like everybody's not walking around like Chappelle's evil. So don't care. You know, don't, don't pay attention to him outside of SeaWorld. Cause he's just doing that for show. Cause for Lacey, it does feel like she's just doing it for show.

[00:45:20] Yes. It's so like, she can have the, I, the, all the, the attributes of somebody that cares for animals. And then she gets to take all that on, but she's not showing you like who, who you are. It's everywhere. Right. Yeah. So like, I just don't think that that it's lining up and that makes me think that her desire to show that she is an animal lover is just a facade for her being a demon.

[00:45:49] Yeah. And Michael Horn says she wants the moral high ground. She's definitely using it as a way to make other people feel bad. Right. It's not that like, here's what I like to do. Like you said, you were a vegan for 12 years, but you being a vegan was not like, okay, now I got to go yell at everybody else for not being a vegan. Uh, but everybody's choices. And I'm like, I just can't do this anymore. Sure. But Lacey like, no, you're bad because you're not also a vegan and you're doing this. Like, Hey, Hey, you run the race in front of you. Don't worry about what we got going on.

[00:46:16] And so you could tell Lacey's just using it. She's using it for evil. So, um, it's just, it's not great. And she goes to Brett after the photo shoot. She's like, I want to take credit. Um, first of all, it was me. I chose everything. I picked all, all the photos. I was basically the creative director too. I deserve all the credit. And Brett's like, Oh, Lacey, you might not just be crazy for me. You might just be crazy in general. Yeah. And it turns him on, I guess.

[00:46:42] Like he said, I dig it. I dig her a little bit. And, uh, she fight for her, man. We heard Flav say the same thing about New York. I mean, I guess guys like that. You do like that. You want someone fighting for you? Not really fighting for what? Like if you got to fight for me, I don't think I'm, I don't think I'm yours. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think so. I don't. Cause I tell him easy.

[00:47:10] If it takes you all of that, what's going on with you? You know what I'm saying? That's how people get blocked. Yeah. You are. You good. You good. You know what I'm saying? Fighting for me is wild. Um, I'm not even that hot of a commodity, you know what I'm saying? So, um, I don't know, I guess I've, I've never had a situation where 12, 13 women are all in one house, I guess, vying for my attention. And so maybe in that moment I would be like, is that what we're going to do next rap con?

[00:47:38] Oh, we could do like, uh, like flavor of love. I could be flavor of flame. I could get clocks. We could give out nicknames to people. Uh, we can do challenges. Michael Horn said he'd fight for me. He could be co-ed. I don't care. It's flavor of love. Like I don't give a shit. You know what I'm saying? Like whatever. Um, and then we can do charm school. We can take those same people and put them in charm school. Every day we're doing it for show. Absolutely. Or like, like even during the day, cause like you, there's like a lot of time,

[00:48:05] open time slots. So yeah, we can both do it. You can do the, I love New York. I can do the flavor of love. And have the people's contestants. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll give out nicknames. Name them, name them. We got it. That's really all we're coming to do is to give out nicknames. Oh, I don't care. Yeah. That sounds like fun. Uh, for the love of Chappelle. Yeah. Not for the love of Ray J. We cannot do that. Like who cannot do that?

[00:48:35] Okay. So, um, we see who wins the challenge. Obviously it's Heather. Uh, I'm sorry. Obviously Heather loses, right? Heather, uh, Mia, Brandy M. They all lose. And so Sam, Jess and Lacey, they get to go on this date. Uh, first there's a tandem date with Lacey and Sam. Sam gets the front seat. Lacey's not happy about that. And then when they get to, uh, to their little lunch date, um, eventually Lacey goes to the restroom and that's

[00:49:00] when Sam, of course, snitches and tells Brett how awful Lacey is. Uh, later on, uh, Brett will go on his one-on-one date with Jess and they will go to the beach and have like a little picnic and all this other stuff. And again, another cool date that they're having where it's very clear that the two of them have chemistry. They have chemistry and she likes, and when they go on their dates, like it does seem like a normal date. You know what I mean? It doesn't seem like it's pushed or anything

[00:49:25] like that. It seemed like they get along. They like each other's like presence. They, they kiss well together. I'm not cringing. And so I think that she's definitely, even though she's very young, she's definitely a front runner, I would say. Yeah, for sure. Um, it's definitely looking like she's, she's number one on Brett's list. And, uh, you know, I think though the fight right now is to figure out who is number two. Um, and so because of that, Brandy and Heather, they know that they

[00:49:52] might be, uh, looking kind of negative in the, in the eyes of Brett after their photo shoot. So they decide they're going to get together and do their own photo shoot. And poor Mia, she sees them doing this photo shoot. She's just like, Hey guys, you want me to take the photos of you? And they're like, no, get away from us Mia. But like even the, the, the Polaroids,

[00:50:13] like an album cover of like a hot Polaroid pics. Oh, that's cool. That's dope. Yeah. Too late. Um, so they take sexy photos and then they plaster them all over Brett's door. And what does Mia do? Nothing. Just watches. Like, I mean, you're ripping that up. I don't know if I would, but like, no, I think you got to, I think you have to, I think at this point, what, at this point, what is there to lose Chantel? Why not rip them off? That's true. Make it, make a moment.

[00:50:42] Yeah. Rip them in, at least show that you are fighting for your man. You know what I'm saying? Fight for your man. Fight for your man. Um, for your man. Uh, as New York would say, uh, slave is my man. Uh, I fight for him. Uh, so when Brett comes home, of course, he's like, wow, these photos are crazy. I love this. It means like, Hey Brett, I just want to talk to you real quick. Can I just get some, he's like, no, you did not want to have a second with her.

[00:51:12] He's like, she asked for five minutes. She asked for five minutes. He said, I could give you four me at that point. Just get your bags and leave. Like he's always willing. It seems it's like to talk to Lacey whenever she pulls him aside. Right. So like the fact that he won't give her five minutes, he's like, Oh, I just said, no, it's just because it's before it's a ceremony and like, uh, feeling desperate. Yeah. And that's the crazy thing. It's like, he said it feels desperate. And I'm like,

[00:51:40] because it is. And I don't blame her for being desperate. You have ignored this lady at every turn. But then again, Mia, if you desperate, I'm desperate. Yeah. He was like, Oh, all right. I guess I'll just take my turn. Do you think Lacey would let Brett blow her off like this? Like all she needs to do, take his hand, walk him somewhere. Like that's all she needs to do. Just take his hand and walk up somewhere and be like, I guess we haven't got a second to spend

[00:52:06] together. I just want to say a couple of things. If you see that these girls are taking these photos, why didn't you go take some photos? You could go to the other girls that hate them. Fighting ideas. I hate that. I mean, something. Something. I'm like, girl, if you don't strip, you know what I'm saying? Do something. She's always saying too important. I'm just saying, do something like, Oh, you thought that was good, Brett. And then like,

[00:52:34] when he walks in, don't just be wearing like floss. You know what I'm saying? And then like, he won't even look at the photos. She don't know. Her perfume on his pillowcase. Right. Mia wasn't doing shit. She didn't know what she was doing. She doesn't know what she smells like because she's never seen that woman. He's never seen it. He doesn't know her. So they end up having this dinner with the final six. And of course, Lacey is talking about how much she loves animals and how all the rest of these people are bad people for not loving animals as much as her. And Brandy says, I'm sick of this.

[00:53:02] I'm tired. I got a headache. I can't do the Lacey experiment or she leaves. Lacey says, Brandy is just trying to get Brett's attention. And guess what Brett does? He gives it to her. He gets up, follows Lacey right out of, I mean, Brandy right out the room. He's like, what's going on? What's wrong with you? And she's like, I'm sick of Lacey. I'm sick of her ass. I'm sick of her shit. I want her gone. I can't do this no more. I'm losing my mind. Brett's like, please can you stay with me? Look at that. Look at that. Making a scene got his attention. Mia, keep up. Clock in.

[00:53:29] God damn. I felt bad for her, but I'm kind of like. How did she get to the casting process? I don't know. Like, how did she get to the casting process? They must have did the thing where they did with Flav, right? Because Flav was in the casting process for his people. Like he helps. I think New York did too. She helped select the guys just like off of their initial tapes. And so that's why I kind of judge them a little bit when somebody's there and they're like, I don't like them or they're unattractive.

[00:53:56] Like you picked them. So I don't know if Brett just got like, you know, some headshots and thought he could go through them. And like, cause Mia is pretty, but like for a TV show, there was no way Mia was ever going to be a standout. Yeah. Maybe she knows somebody that works for VH1 or whatever the company is. Wow. Yeah. She could be a model or something too. You know, sometimes models get signed up for this kind of stuff. Actresses do too as well. That's true.

[00:54:24] What other shows could have been casting at that time that she maybe auditioned for, but they put her on this instead. Well, that's the thing. Flavor of Love, Rock of Love. This was really dominating reality TV at the time. And so I was like, if she didn't want to come on this, she wasn't trying to get on TV. Cause remember this was the highest Rock of, I mean, Flavor of Love was the highest rating show in VH1 history, you know, by that point. So it's like, this is what you ate for. The Bachelor or something like that. Like that's more her speed. I could see her on The Bachelor. Yeah, I could see her on The Bachelor.

[00:54:52] Maybe because she was in like the casting process of something else that like, maybe they just pulled her in here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I could see her on The Bachelor for sure before this show, because I think a lot of people on The Bachelor are kind of milquetoast, you know, just kind of just like there and pretty and, you know, eventually. Maybe it was Big Brother because like season six of Big Brother had happened. And so that I think is a lot of people's gateway season of Big Brother. Uh-huh. 2007 would have been Big Brother 8.

[00:55:23] Could you see her in the house with Evil Dick? Well, she would be the Jen. So like, no, Jen is way more personality than she is. An icon. Yeah. Yeah. There's no way. There's no way. Oh, what was her name? Was it? No, no, you're right. There's nobody I would replace from Big Brother 8 with her. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe she lost the bet. Big Brother 9 was terrible. It was. And they were all bad people.

[00:55:52] And I think Mia deserves better. Oh, wow. I mean. All bad people? I mean, where were the good people on Big Brother 9? I remember thinking 7 was cute, but he was out like first or second. Yeah. Yeah. I know you're talking about Homeboy, the black dude, right? I think he was out first or second, right? Was it? But no, I think he came back. I don't want to talk about Big Brother 9. I don't want to talk about it. Because it's just an awful season. Sharon was fine.

[00:56:22] Sharon was fine. I don't remember who Sharon was. That's what I'm saying. It wasn't. We don't need to talk about Big Brother 9. Okay. So we're up on elimination. And Mia is, of course, nervous at elimination. Jess had an awesome day. But she's just hoping that if anybody's going home, it's Lacey. And then Brandy says that she thinks she's safe. But she's hoping that Brett realizes how evil Lacey is and sends her home. The first backstage pass goes to Jess. And Lacey, of course, says it's not fair because Lacey deserves the first pass because Lacey did all the work.

[00:56:53] Heather comes down second. And Brett says he had an immediate connection with her as opposed to Jess, who he started off not really feeling but now has gotten such a bigger connection with. The third pass goes to Sam, who Brett says started off strong but hit a rocky patch. I'm sorry. Goes to, yeah, started off strong but hit a rocky patch in the middle. And then the fourth pass goes to Brandy M., who Brett says,

[00:57:19] just stay here and stay sane with me because he can tell Lacey is driving her crazy. So, the final two passes are Mia and Lacey. And of course, a shock to nobody, it is Lacey who gets the last backstage pass. Which I tell you, it feels like Lacey's at the bottom of the pyramid here. Well, I think it's with the drama of it all. Because, like, her maybe feeling threatened to go home might activate demon Lexi. And so, she's going to come back with this final five and terrorize.

[00:57:50] But I did think that they did all, I thought that they might have been doing the switcheroo. Because, like, when they called her up and then he was kind of, he started to say something that sounded like he could have been, like, you know, bait and switch. Like, actually, I'm sending you home, Lacey. But he didn't. Yeah. But I thought for a second that he might have been lying. Yeah. I think it's Brandi M. who says, she's thinking that whatever happened with Brett in the bedroom

[00:58:18] is probably why Lacey is still around. Because you remember, there was accusations about maybe some sexual content between the two of them. But there was a group of them in the bed? Yeah, for sure. And then also, we know Lacey ran to Brett's bedroom again in this episode to go and basically tell everybody in campaign that everybody, that she did all the work and everybody else was just getting dragged along by her. And so they're thinking that maybe Lacey's doing a little extra.

[00:58:45] She's a mouthpiece in more than one way? They think Brandi M. might not be the only blowjob Brandi, you know, in the house, I guess. At least that's what Brandi M. is insinuating. Of all people, Brandi M. Please. How dare you? So, yeah, we lose Mia. And this is not, this is not, it doesn't, this doesn't rock the boat at all. Everybody's like, all right, well, fine. Brett says, everyone says Lacey might be crazy, but at least she's crazy for him.

[00:59:13] And that brings us to our final five contestants. And so, Chantel, we are a few episodes away from the finale. How many episodes are there? Let me look. Okay, I can tell you. So, there are, I actually don't know. Let me look on this wiki page because I try not to, I try not to let you do too much Googling. So, you know. No, I'm not Googling.

[00:59:42] I'm just seeing how many I have in the folder. I think it's 13. It should be less than that though, right? Yeah, it's 13. Season one has 13 episodes. And so, yeah, I'm hoping that by the time we're done with this all. With the reunion. With the reunion. Mm-hmm. Exactly. And so, we're not exactly at the end, but down to the final five is nothing to sneeze at. And so, I'm very excited to see what's coming up next. The next episode is called Super Fan Challenge. What do you think that's going to be about?

[01:00:14] I'm wondering if they're going to have to get like audience people into like a show or like maybe running around Hollywood doing tasks, whatever, outside and getting people to like participate or whatever. So, I feel like it's a running around Hollywood type thing. Mm-hmm. Okay. And then, who do you think is going to win the challenge?

[01:00:43] Demons win stuff like this. It won't be, it won't be, uh, what's her, Sam. She's too passive. Heather, Heather might give a run for her money, but I could also see her losing and like being annoyed. Okay. Maybe Brandy M could do well because she's pretty out there. And so, like, she would do probably funny and weird stuff. And who do I miss?

[01:01:12] Uh, you said the demon. You said Sam. You didn't miss, you didn't mention Jess. Jess might be okay. So, I think Lexi, Brandy, and Jess will be top performers, I'd say. And then Heather and Sam might be a little bit on the poorer side of performing here. Well. And who do you see going home? Might be Sam's time to say hi. Okay.

[01:01:40] Um, well, I will tell you this. Not the next episode, but, um, we will also have a Flavor of Love staple coming up. Uh, we will be meeting the parents. And so, I'm very excited to see what that looks like, who these parents are. I don't know if we meet Brett's parents. Keeping Lexi here for the parents because her, she must have a whack. Did I say Lacey? Lexi. Oh. Uh, but I think that she's going to have a whack-a-doodle set of parents, I think.

[01:02:10] Okay. Yes. Do you see, do you, do you foresee another Sister Patterson moment? Yes. Ooh. There's going to be something, I think we're, I think her parents, she's probably going to be tame compared to her parents or something like that. Like, I think they care keeping her here for the, her parents. All right. So, we will see what that looks like when we get there, but until then, we'll be back

[01:02:36] next week to talk more about Rock of Love as we get closer and closer to the finale. And then, of course, closer and closer to the next series that we're going to talk about, which, of course, Chantel, for once, I guess it seems these days, is not spoiled on yet. So, keep it to yourself until then. Chantel, tell everybody what you're working on and where they can find you. And I'm working on covering the challenge. So, I wasn't able to do it this week, obviously, because I was in Milwaukee.

[01:03:02] So, I might double up on Wednesday and do coverage of two episodes. I'm just to get back on track there. And I guess the civilian, the traitors is coming up. And so, I don't need to lock you in for all episodes, but you want to come and chat a little bit of the traitors, right? I mean, I think we did the same thing last time, right? Last time, I was like, I'll come for an episode or so. And then, I think I stayed for the whole season. So, when does it start?

[01:03:32] I think September 17th. Chantel, is the traitors supposed to be our thing together? Do you want it to be? I'm asking. How do you feel? Because we did that one season together. What do you think? What were the numbers? Did we get good numbers? I mean, you tell me. I think you, listen, first of all, you're a superstar. Your numbers are always better than mine, okay? So, I'm always happy to kind of like piggyback off of your success. But I don't know, Chantel. You know, I don't love the show. Would people be bad if I'm like complaining?

[01:04:07] Okay, so I have to say that we played the traitors with RJP. Okay. And being a player of the game, I don't, I think it would be really fun to watch as an audience member. Uh-huh. But the game is kind of whack. Oh my God. You sound like me now. Well, so I was a faithful. Okay.

[01:04:34] And eliminated by the Rob father. Of course. And I knew and I called him out and I was like, it's him. And yeah, like I did, like I didn't get banished. So I didn't get to fight for my life. Like, I just like dead. Disappeared, yeah. Kind of like, okay. I was like, good job. I was like, really? Like did nothing. Just died.

[01:05:00] And so I don't like the format necessarily of the game, but it was, I'm sure it was really fun to watch. Like after I was eliminated and watching it go down, that was interesting and fun to watch. But playing the game, it's not on my list. Okay. I'm out. I'm out on the traitors in that capacity. I mean, you are going to cover the show. I am going to cover it. Yeah. All right. Well, if you need a co-host for the show for an episode or two. Okay. Okay.

[01:05:30] You know what I'm saying? You said there was like a backup. I do have somebody, my friend Jonathan, who I've covered the traitors with before. Gotcha. Wants to do it, but he's also really busy. He's a casting director casting a gazillion shows. Okay. And so he might be busy sometimes. And so just. If you need a substitute. Yeah. I can't guarantee all of the episodes, but if you need one or two pop in, I got you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right.

[01:05:59] Check out Chantel's YouTube page and her podcast, Reality Realness with Three S's, of course. And then keep up with what she has going on with her. And then, of course, keep up with all the content we have over here on Recap Kickback by subscribing. YouTube.com slash at Recap Kickback or Recap Kickback dot com slash subscribe. That's it. Thank you all for joining us in the chat live here on YouTube. Catch us next week on Sunday School as we go through another episode of Rock of Love and our Flavor of Love Cinematic Universe podcast.

[01:06:29] And until then, for Chantel and for myself, you ain't got to go home, but you got to get the hell out of here. We'll talk to y'all next time. Peace. Peace. I've been trapped behind swallowing himself.