[00:00:00] What's up fam, it's Chappelle again back for another podcast about summer house Martha's
[00:00:22] Vineyard here on Recap Kickback and uh you know on this episode we're gonna cover episodes
[00:00:28] two and well three and four of season two of summer's house Martha's Vineyard so if you
[00:00:32] haven't been keeping up with it it's okay because we watched it so you didn't have to
[00:00:36] and hopefully you know I hear a little something something about some of the mess in the drama
[00:00:40] that's going on in the house and I'll need you to go catch up on all the shenanigans
[00:00:44] on Martha's Vineyard and with me uh a Bravo expert someone who has been leading me through
[00:00:50] the journey of summer's house Martha's Vineyard it's Sasha Sasha welcome back.
[00:00:54] You know I'm just happy to be here uh you know even if I'm a drag queen hoe it's fine
[00:01:00] I'm here I'm so excited.
[00:01:04] Yes um we cannot do a summer's house Martha's Vineyard here on Recap Kickback without Sasha
[00:01:10] Sasha is the person who told me about this show yeah it's wild the show is crazy if
[00:01:15] you haven't checked it out check out our last week's our last recap of the first
[00:01:20] two episodes of this uh season two but yeah every other week we're gonna try to
[00:01:23] bring you to uh a podcast about the a pair of episodes and um this time since we're
[00:01:29] talking about episodes three and four we got a lot of drama a lot of tears a lot of
[00:01:34] storming off typical summer house Martha's Vineyard content Sasha.
[00:01:38] Yeah listen I we can talk about this I think at the start but unfortunately
[00:01:44] episode five which we're not covering but um was the most recent episode came
[00:01:48] out at the time of this recording but anyway the numbers are going down
[00:01:52] and uh I want to say I think it is still a fun show everyone should still check it out
[00:02:01] but I do think we need some single men here.
[00:02:04] I think you know we need some more fun um there's a lot of tears and it's not like oh
[00:02:11] we're like gonna get in a fight and then you know or like we're gonna
[00:02:15] yell at each other and then there's tears it's just like very much
[00:02:18] oh you're hurting my feelings okay I'm gonna storm off Bria.
[00:02:23] What is it? No so I just I do think that there needs to be some kind of a shake-up
[00:02:27] so I'm excited for what's to come but uh we'll see I just I can see why folks are a little bit
[00:02:33] like bored but Chabelle um power to the people because the people have bullied
[00:02:40] Andy Cohen and Bravo and we're getting a reunion this season.
[00:02:44] What? Yes below tech fans what are you doing?
[00:02:48] Right we're on the look we're down bad well for below deck reunion
[00:02:52] we had that last reunion that was so hood it was so ratchet it was ghetto and then we never went back
[00:02:58] to a below deck reunion Sasha and I were starving but at least the Martha's Vineyard fans came through
[00:03:05] because we'd need a reunion for them we only going to see them once a year as we know the
[00:03:09] show is summer house so they're only going to be there during a specific time
[00:03:13] and there's so much drama that will happen between the time it stops airing
[00:03:17] and the time the next season happens because we find ourselves in the midst of you know um
[00:03:23] you know not to not to throw summer under the bus but I mean summer and Jordan aren't like on the
[00:03:28] same page like all these people come back and they're just like the friendships have all scrambled
[00:03:32] up yeah and they're not the same way they used to be I need friends with no one even though
[00:03:37] she's the one that brought them all together yeah be serious and how do we get there nobody
[00:03:42] knows everyone's like yeah we stop inviting Jasmine and stuff why
[00:03:47] sorry listen I'm just ah I mean listen Silas and Jasmine's relationship was such a big deal in
[00:03:53] season one that season two is almost not a big deal at all because he's gone and so without him
[00:04:00] it feels like whatever their issues were whatever dynamic they had in place um while he was there
[00:04:06] with him gone he's left her on an island basically by herself with a bunch of people who really
[00:04:12] could I don't say they don't like her but she's not at the top of anybody's friend list right now
[00:04:16] that's the best way to say it yes so they're just not as close which is wild because then she tries
[00:04:22] to bring in people that she's actually close to and we got action Sasha so I want to jump right in
[00:04:28] let's just talk about Jasmine and these two episodes because this was a wild ride Jasmine
[00:04:36] um she ends the episode breaking down and tears and talking about like I I need people to just be
[00:04:42] there for me I'm going through a lot right now and everyone's looking at Jasmine kind of like
[00:04:46] what are you talking about but as we've talked about past on the past podcast and has people
[00:04:52] have speculated Jasmine is with child on the show she is pregnant and this drama is stressing her out
[00:04:59] yeah here's the thing right all of it together is so unfortunate because no one knows like you said
[00:05:06] why they had a falling out and my question is are they just not girls girls like is that what
[00:05:13] it's coming down to and maybe um Mariah is a girl's girl listen I love Mariah I have so many
[00:05:21] feelings about why was she taken out in the first place it makes no sense no one was consulted
[00:05:28] versus right Phil who we'll talk about in a second but if it's Mariah versus Phil I understand why
[00:05:35] Mariah should be here summer dragged the shit out of Bria the last season and Bria is still
[00:05:43] cool with summer being in the house Maria definitely did less than that
[00:05:47] mmm well Mariah did she put her hands on that girl you know and I think that's one of that's
[00:05:53] one way to did she I don't remember maybe not like full on touch no because I'm pretty sure
[00:06:00] like it was like off weight huh I remember Mariah and Bria having to push you know she pushed her
[00:06:07] in the shadows or like get your dog stuff blah blah blah right so if I'm Brea I'm like yeah I
[00:06:12] don't really like Mariah I don't want to stay in the same house and I get it but also from Jasmine's
[00:06:17] point of view Mariah is the girl who has her back the most and she did kind of leave her for dead
[00:06:23] last season you know she just all right well Bria said you touched her so you gotta go
[00:06:28] and so she's trying to make amends prior to bring her friend back into the fold Sasha
[00:06:33] she booked that flight before she brought it to the table and I personally I believe Jasmine
[00:06:42] I do think she saw hey there's a flight deal let me go ahead and book it I'll talk to everybody
[00:06:48] they should be cool with it if not I'll let you know we can get a refund but what Bria sees is
[00:06:54] you did this without consulting me you didn't even care about my feelings and now you're
[00:06:57] gonna bring in the girl who hit me last time she's not going for it so here's the thing I believe
[00:07:04] that this is production right production said is getting a little boring we need some mess and who
[00:07:11] had brought the mess because Shanice came on later right and she brought in a little bit of
[00:07:16] mess uh summer I think this summer come later too I can't remember now last season yes I believe
[00:07:22] yeah I believe yeah so anyway they brought in like a different kind of mess and energy so I think
[00:07:28] there is something to say about like a mid-season you know new people coming in and why not bring
[00:07:34] in the people that caused all their drama what's why not I think this is a production um cooking
[00:07:43] and why not okay because I liked Mariah and I like I said well I was pissed and I wanted her back
[00:07:51] and party of one maybe but I'm so excited well so as of season as of season two episode three and four
[00:08:00] do we know if Mariah is coming back like I know episodes five is already dropped
[00:08:04] but uh I haven't watched it yet so as of as of episode three and four it feels like
[00:08:09] Bria's like hey Jasmine I trust you you'll handle it but then it looks like okay I can't trust
[00:08:14] you because you already booked this flight but there's no world where Jasmine shuts this down
[00:08:18] in my opinion I think Mariah's coming regardless I'm yeah I agree it's happening yeah I think so too um and
[00:08:28] spoiler alert they it's not yet at episode five so you haven't missed anything um but I do
[00:08:34] think they will be coming soon um I have seen the like tip you know the whatever future episodes
[00:08:40] uh previous sorry and I think it's gonna be interesting but I just feel like Bria's being a
[00:08:47] little a lot of it hypocritical because she's so mad about Mariah not coming in but then
[00:08:56] Phil can come bringing up Phil at all is a is a choice you know because Phil came in last season
[00:09:06] and over the course of maybe I don't know four and a half hour Sasha he got kicked off the show
[00:09:11] we we've watched a lot of reality between the two of us and I don't think I've ever seen
[00:09:15] anything like this no he came in like a tornado and like so quick just what was the reason why aren't
[00:09:24] we flushing toilets behind us yeah the rundown of Phil so Phil comes in the house immediately is
[00:09:31] kind of picking at Preston Preston's getting dressed it feels like come down take a shot
[00:09:36] take a shot take a shot and at first I was like hey listen that's type of energy I need in my
[00:09:40] summer house okay listen yeah I'm getting dressed but also we need to turn up we have things to do
[00:09:44] we can multitask we can do hard things to people everyone just FYI but I need right yeah exactly
[00:09:51] and so this feels right right but then it becomes well where's my room well Bria was supposed to get
[00:09:57] my room so somebody else is in my room they need to leave oh let me let the dog out he lets Milo
[00:10:02] out Milo's running that running around the house he's loud he's also he takes a dump
[00:10:08] in a Nick's toilet and like I'm not flushing it despite knowing that Nick has already been
[00:10:13] living there that nobody knew Phil claimed that room he doesn't even care he goes and he insults
[00:10:19] every person on the cast I think he tells Preston to wear a bigger shirt he kind of gets an Alex's
[00:10:25] face Amir has to get in his face all this drama over the course of four hours Phil is gone
[00:10:31] everybody's sad about it they call the next day and he's like F all of y'all
[00:10:34] and now here it is a year later than like so can Phil come back Bria Bria stop it and Alex
[00:10:42] specifically said you will not see the same Alex which is like could they bring Phil back
[00:10:48] bring Phil back please because Alex you ain't doing nothing on the show you chilling stop chilling so
[00:10:52] much oh my I can't wait till we get to Alex but anyway no it's just but then why is everyone
[00:10:59] putting the blame on Preston that Preston is the only person bothered by it when Alex was the
[00:11:05] one that said no you're gonna see a different Alex if he comes mm-hmm well Preston's is
[00:11:10] like I'm putting my foot down I don't want Phil back yeah it's either him or me and I'm like
[00:11:14] that's fine but then Preston when Bria does the same thing you should also be like I respect it
[00:11:21] now he's probably sick of Bria in all her life yes storming off she's always complaining about
[00:11:27] something and I'll give her credit the first season there was a lot going on and people were
[00:11:32] not they were just kind of discounting all the stuff that Bria was going through
[00:11:35] her relationship wasn't a relationship to them people you know her dog wasn't uh wasn't supportive
[00:11:41] enough for to be the actual support dog yeah like oh there's hair everywhere Mariah can hit her
[00:11:47] you know like it was just a lot going on some person yeah yeah but Preston and Bria get really
[00:11:52] close over the course of last year we don't know why but they just do and now it's just it's
[00:12:00] one of those things where you're it's your friend so you you know her quirks and yeah it's just driving
[00:12:05] him crazy but to that I just say Preston if you can put your foot down about Phil can't bring up
[00:12:11] with her friend that put them up like Mariah you should have been a no-brainer Phil can't come
[00:12:14] Mariah can't come or they both can come but I don't think there's a middle ground where
[00:12:18] one can come at the other can't come and who listen as an audience and consumer of mess
[00:12:24] I would like everyone to be everybody come back everybody come back Silas don't kill me
[00:12:29] and the reason I'm saying that is because we need some shake up okay I need something because at this
[00:12:35] point granted it's at Jasmine's expense so it's not fair but I need some some drama some dramatic
[00:12:45] going on nothing is happening right now besides tears so I feel them Mariah coming in Phil coming
[00:12:52] is Phil single because then Phil definitely needs to come
[00:12:57] yeah and I'm sorry Preston it's not because I hate you I love you but I love mess
[00:13:03] right I don't think we come here to see you all play nice and be and be kind to each other
[00:13:07] I mean I would love you to be kind to me all right leave go out do stuff you know fight
[00:13:13] you know I'm not saying you just gotta fight but what I'm saying is if this gonna be
[00:13:17] reality about drama you know some of the drama that y'all have it's like personal drama that like
[00:13:24] you know like your own traumas and stuff like that that we have to address and that your friends
[00:13:28] aren't aware of because as Preston said it best a lot of them don't give you space to feel comfortable
[00:13:33] sharing that information without judgment or without you know like they so they're working on that
[00:13:38] that's fine but if you tell me this person is single this person is single there's a love
[00:13:43] triangle or something like that I'm way more invested but half the people in the cast are taken
[00:13:47] by people who are not even on the episode yet we know that Bria's guy is gone in Germany probably
[00:13:53] still Amir's girlfriend is running Amir like running Amir on the show even though she's not even there
[00:14:01] oh and episode six she's gonna be in town I think all the twins are
[00:14:08] and they did not in the trailer they have not cut her to be well so I'm very interested
[00:14:16] but see that I think that's what the producers are using for their drama right it's like
[00:14:20] we established a normalcy for this group and then about halfway through the season
[00:14:24] we bring in the sexy decoys right we bring in all the all the the plus ones you know
[00:14:31] I'd be shocked if Silas doesn't pop up at some point like I know he's deployed but there's
[00:14:35] you really think we're gonna get through this whole season without him just being like hey y'all
[00:14:38] I flew in it would be such a missed opportunity to to not just bring him in for a week or a weekend
[00:14:45] or something like that like I'm sure they could get that happen oh my god because otherwise
[00:14:51] Jasmine's is going to be a punching bag for the entire season because everybody's problems
[00:14:56] always land on Jasmine because she coordinated this these were her friends and they're her
[00:15:00] plus and their plus ones so they all look at Jasmine like well why aren't you putting
[00:15:04] me first Rhea I think has a valid argument against Jasmine because that's supposed to be her girl
[00:15:08] yeah 100% but Jordan and Jasmine don't even talk anymore so what's really going on
[00:15:15] when I'm telling you that none of them are happy for each other that's when it's coming off right
[00:15:20] like this person can't be sad about their own thing and this person can't be sad because they're
[00:15:26] too sad and being too loud and you know like the tone why are we arguing about tone
[00:15:32] if we're friends I don't care first of all if we have but you and I have been in this situation
[00:15:37] if one of us is getting loud the other person is like no like we need to dead this and just like
[00:15:42] yeah move on in a way so that we're not acting crazy in front of people it would never be like
[00:15:49] well how dare you be loud because I'm the victim here what is going on why is everyone
[00:15:56] the main character in their story and not one person cares enough to like about their real life
[00:16:01] friend apparently yeah and uh I think that yeah if you look no further than Jasmine you know she
[00:16:09] is essentially the main character of summerhouse martins vignette like it's told through her eyes
[00:16:13] production reached out to her first right and so all the rest of these people have just become
[00:16:19] like like their issues have become so much bigger than hers it was like yeah there's a lot
[00:16:24] in a lot of ways it feels like jasmine is just like screaming out for somebody to like look in
[00:16:28] her direction like look at me I'm struggling too you're like girl no you're not you know
[00:16:32] like we ain't worried about you right now come on man give jasmine a break um however
[00:16:40] I do think that the tone conversation uh between summer and Jordan is very interesting and I
[00:16:46] definitely want to talk about it with you um because Sasha you're very much a straight shooter
[00:16:50] you know when you say something you say and you mean it and I think that there's a lot of that
[00:16:54] Jordan you know set like that pattern in Jordan and I think for people like Jordan and even like you
[00:17:00] when you say stuff people like that's just how Sasha's talking you know she just said it she
[00:17:04] was sometimes you do need like a translator which you do serve a lot of time yeah yeah for sure
[00:17:12] right I agree but in this episode summer is the one who has a huge issue with Jordan's tone
[00:17:17] because she feels like Jordan can talk like that to people and everybody be okay with it but if summer
[00:17:22] does it then it's a problem and here's the thing I do believe there's a difference because summer
[00:17:28] comes from a place to me of like hurt more than it is like this is her personality uh multiple times
[00:17:36] right she's every time Alex gets brought up well he was inside me why right you see what I'm
[00:17:45] saying there's a difference between being blunt I think and then like me and a person that isn't
[00:17:51] blunt trying to be blunt does that make sense because I do have a lot of friends that will like
[00:17:55] try to you know be quote unquote blunt in front of me and I'm just like first of all to know
[00:18:02] and second of all here's how you do it so I do think there's a way to do it and sometimes if
[00:18:06] that's not your personality it does come off as like meaner than normal versus I think when it's
[00:18:11] your personality your friends just know that you've always been this way and you've never
[00:18:16] you don't necessarily see sorry yeah they don't see you as like someone trying to hurt me so I think
[00:18:21] that's why and then with summer and Jordan specifically there's a lot of weird trauma
[00:18:27] going on again that I feel like from episode two to three I don't know what happened
[00:18:33] yeah um in episode three I'm assuming that's when this all starts to come to a
[00:18:41] hand yes the because we see that uh Jordan goes to summer and is saying hey I'm having issues
[00:18:51] summer is consoling her she's crying she's consoling her by the end of the episode
[00:18:57] they're in an argument and uh summer is telling now drunk summer by the way very very drunk summer
[00:19:04] is telling the other people in the house yeah when Jordan came to me I was there for her she
[00:19:09] was crying in my arms earlier and that gets back to Jordan and Jordan says why would you use my
[00:19:16] vulnerable moment against me but I don't think summer was using it against her I think summer
[00:19:20] was just trying to tell her point of view like why do you think I don't care about you if I
[00:19:23] was just there for you earlier but Jordan who is the main character in her life obviously
[00:19:29] is like no that's a private thing that I that happened between us and it should have never come
[00:19:34] up I'm thinking again these are just communication issues you know like summer didn't mean any harm
[00:19:39] but Jasmine felt like it was I mean uh Jordan felt like it was like the biggest thing ever
[00:19:44] and they just can't they can't see eye to eye on that eventually I think summer apologizes
[00:19:49] but I was thinking what summer did wasn't I don't I don't know what's on sensitive but
[00:19:54] I don't think summer did anything wrong you know I don't think so I don't think summer
[00:19:58] hasn't anything wrong I don't think the problem is that they're it just feels like they shouldn't
[00:20:04] actually be friends is that a rude way to say this I don't like they don't really mesh well
[00:20:09] they're just like friends and convenience yeah because we were on the show we're single
[00:20:14] but you know like they're to me they're not on the same like train you know what I'm saying like
[00:20:20] they're in two different trains and they're just like going to the same destination and
[00:20:26] that's why it's not working because like I said they all know each other through Jasmine
[00:20:31] and that's why I'm like your friends but you kind of friend jumped Jasmine which isn't cool
[00:20:37] and I hate friend jumpers and everyone is valid to have their feelings but instead why aren't we just
[00:20:44] like dancing and hooking up with guys that's how I feel at this point because I think the more they
[00:20:49] have to sit and talk about their feelings the more weird it's gonna get because they're not meshing
[00:20:55] in that way yeah it's it's that friend jump of Jasmine they probably threw off the dynamic
[00:21:01] because Jasmine and and Jordan were the best friends you know it was Jasmine and Jordan
[00:21:07] and then Jasmine and Brea and also Jasmine and Mariah and so now with Mariah being out of the house
[00:21:15] Brea kind of being Preston's new A1 uh and not seeing things on the and I like I said I put a lot
[00:21:20] of that at the feet of Jasmine for sure because she was very good at putting Brea in the season one
[00:21:25] um but then Jordan becoming friends with Summer is like it's thrown off the balance of the way
[00:21:30] things are supposed to go and you probably don't have your buffer you know what I'm seeing in between
[00:21:36] of Jack or whoever this time it's Jasmine yeah um so it's tough but yeah the the biggest drama for
[00:21:44] Jordan in the episode obviously is that beef with Summer and her alopecia that she talks about
[00:21:51] she's struggling with you know the idea that she has to now well you know she feels like she
[00:21:54] needs to wear wigs every day as opposed to just being able to elect to wear a wig when
[00:21:58] she felt like it now she feels like she has to and she's really struggling with you know the loss
[00:22:03] of her hair she's talking about how hair is her currency it really takes me back to those conversations
[00:22:07] people were having about Jada Pinkett yeah back when um when Will Smith slapped Chris Rock
[00:22:13] um I've always said that Chris Rock got what was coming to him uh because leave people alone
[00:22:18] if you know you can say whatever you want speech is free and they give me better jokes
[00:22:23] right because results may vary speech is free but also not free consequence I'll
[00:22:28] tell you that exactly exactly you can say whatever you want now what happens to you after that that's
[00:22:33] on you and you know people feel like oh like maybe Jada prod it will Smith into doing something like
[00:22:38] this but again Jada Pinkett was talking about her she's talked about her hair struggles
[00:22:43] in the past so it's something come on right listen don't weigh in on it if you haven't
[00:22:48] done the research oh that's all I'm saying um but yeah she she talks about her hair as well
[00:22:54] and so uh this conversation about with Jordan's hair it's very much reminiscent of that and how
[00:22:59] it means a lot to her to be able to have you know you know her health in a way that she doesn't lose
[00:23:04] her hair or that you know people don't see her struggling with that and so Jordan again is in
[00:23:09] a blender we get a lot of just like Jordan's real life trauma in these episodes Sasha
[00:23:14] and have we um because we won't need to talk about but there is another drama that comes up
[00:23:20] do we hear about the bellman in episode four or doorman bartender no okay so we'll wait but there is
[00:23:27] another story that comes out later which is why you find out like oh they've been low key beefing
[00:23:34] since new york oh okay and and that makes sense but again this is why we need reunions because
[00:23:39] why are we just not finding it's not five episodes in exactly and and it just like it's
[00:23:44] again treated as like a throwaway story and I don't understand why because it's giving like there's been
[00:23:50] built up of like oh the way x person acts is not the way y person likes and so I don't like
[00:23:57] and it doesn't work for me blah blah blah because last season right Jordan's um piece was also about
[00:24:02] like um intimacy and you know her body blah blah blah so I feel like that's still a thing and it's
[00:24:10] still part of the story right with the conversation with nick um but it seems like we've now added
[00:24:16] unfortunately the conversation about her hair and listen I can't hair for women in general is a lot and
[00:24:24] black women there's a whole another complicated piece to it and then the third piece is she used
[00:24:30] to be a playmate they are known for like their looks are what was their currency so of course this
[00:24:38] is like the most normal reaction to seeing all these other playmates right that you were also with
[00:24:45] living their best life and still having x y and z in their body and their looks together not that
[00:24:50] Jordan's beautiful but you know I'm saying internally I'm assuming there's probably that back
[00:24:56] and forth of seeing these girls are still the same and you're not it sucks yeah yeah so I you
[00:25:04] know I like Jordan she's one of my favorite people on the cast but yeah when she's in her head about all
[00:25:09] of her issues I think a lot of that does leak into the drama of the house because I don't think the
[00:25:14] summer and Jordan beef had to be as big as it was um but she was so caught up in all the I mean
[00:25:22] rightfully so caught up in all the stuff she was going through that I don't think she could see
[00:25:25] that drunk summer was not trying to hurt her at all you know she wasn't throwing it in her
[00:25:29] face she was really just trying to defend herself and and the idea that you know she has been there
[00:25:34] for her for Jordan you know um but eventually summer will say you know Jordan gets to talk to people
[00:25:40] any kind of way why don't I get to do that it's because I'm nice and I always got a tiptoe around
[00:25:44] her feelings so she's trying to be heard um I don't know summer summer storyline has been
[00:25:49] interesting coming from the whole um the will they won't they with Alex and and even with
[00:25:56] her friend uh now being in the house and trying to pursue Alex it's been a lot I think which summer
[00:26:01] would speak up a little bit more about everything just in general yeah I just want to know what's
[00:26:06] going on if I'm being honest because like you I think there's just some type of underlying issues
[00:26:15] going on that no one seems to be sharing out loud and that's why we're fighting like we're fighting
[00:26:22] about the symptoms not the disease and that right well I think I think sometimes that conversation
[00:26:30] about the disease leads back to jazz yeah because well because let's talk about one of the other
[00:26:37] discussions that happened um they bring up the conversation about how Alex talked about
[00:26:47] the chenise relationship um so Alex and Jordan are talking and Alex is like well Jordan it felt
[00:26:55] like you had a wall up and there was a re like we just couldn't connect you like things have been
[00:26:59] different and I'm starting to get more insight and just Jordan just switches on a dime she goes
[00:27:05] from you know really talking about her struggles and what she's going through to being like
[00:27:08] no that's because I don't like you and I don't like you because that's how you handle my friend
[00:27:12] you handle chenise crazy and I don't like that and that's a real one but right it's a real one but also
[00:27:20] is that true because when we read when we run back to tape Alex didn't even want to talk about it there
[00:27:26] was somebody at the table stirring the pot and saying no just say it say it now at the dinner
[00:27:31] table and I think that was jazz yeah it was yeah look the disease now I'm just saying
[00:27:37] leave that lady alone I love I love Jasmine but also the tape does not lie they record
[00:27:45] they rent it back and you see Alex actually say I don't want to talk about this you see
[00:27:50] Nick step in and be like we don't have to talk about this right now and Jasmine say no just say
[00:27:55] it and then next thing you know we're talking about chenise and her her issues with the guy
[00:28:00] from insecure um Sasha this was a lot I'm just so confused by all of this because I think that they
[00:28:12] almost like want to get to Alex right but they can't get to him right is what's like above f-boy
[00:28:21] yeah he's just mastered it yeah he's mastered the game so good at it but he's so it's so basic
[00:28:28] right like he's it's so easily deterred like as soon as Noel was getting attention from someone else
[00:28:36] for bad bunny or his friends I'm just kidding I can't remember their names but from chenise's friends
[00:28:42] immediately yeah he switches and he's like so no hi like how are it's so easy to read and like
[00:28:51] it's the more attention you give him the more he's gonna you know like ask more like I said
[00:28:59] f-boy transcendent this guy is so shout out to him because I just really he has all the girls in
[00:29:05] a blender because he doesn't give them the time of day and they just want to keep getting
[00:29:11] like the one two in with him right and it's uh you're right because man I don't
[00:29:18] mean the man's a kappa let's just call it what it is these women are you're playing
[00:29:23] the women are playing on expert mode right now okay this man is battle tested you um
[00:29:28] he I do speak from experience it is true he lured uh dealt me to a false security summer
[00:29:35] he played I mean like a fiddle he's like hey we hung out we messed around a few times but we were
[00:29:41] not in a relationship I never said we were in a relationship I was very clear that we weren't
[00:29:44] in a relationship so then every time he does something summer's like but you were inside me
[00:29:50] she's like it doesn't matter doesn't matter we weren't in a relationship we were we were just hanging out
[00:29:54] while you were like this while I was looking at flowers not allowed right well we're not in a
[00:29:59] relationship I can do what I want and so so she can't get to him then when it comes to you
[00:30:05] know the the whole shanice thing it's like they want to be mad at him about the shanice thing
[00:30:09] but he wasn't even the one who brought it up he actively avoided it he was like no he even told
[00:30:15] shanice keep your personal space like I don't even want to do you know remember he's like I
[00:30:18] you don't know how to stay away from people again can you really blame him you can't so they try
[00:30:24] to get to him then and it just ricochets onto jasmine the man is teflon he look this is uh
[00:30:30] this is like some expert level wizardry this is the type of stuff that we root for when we talk
[00:30:34] about on the you know the bo sins on below deck and stuff like that like you gotta if you're
[00:30:38] gonna play the game play the game and he like it he's so good at it like that's the thing he
[00:30:45] the way he lets things roll off his shoulder and just gas lights you expert level and do better
[00:30:52] girls the ignore that's the only way you win well his most recent uh I guess I won't call her a
[00:31:00] victim because yeah she did it to herself but no well um my favorite by the way no oh yeah I yeah
[00:31:09] I I like her but she's in a blender the man got her he got it tell her to stand up Sasha because I mean
[00:31:18] no it's more than Santa she got set up yeah this is bad why are all these people playing
[00:31:26] in her face first of all and why are they like oh a mirror oh he thinks you're cute he thinks you're
[00:31:33] this he thinks if you don't shut the problem is when the f boys friends tell you right oh he's really
[00:31:40] into you and he won't you you think that you made it you that's the problem because you're just
[00:31:47] like oh I am the you know what's the chosen one the prize exactly like I'm different than everyone else
[00:31:56] it's me it's me embarrassing girls please stand up yeah so noelle throughout this episode we'll
[00:32:05] like comment on her and Alex's matching outfits they were wearing their orange she brings some
[00:32:11] some vegan food as well but then he goes oh I don't like mushrooms
[00:32:18] I would oh you don't like it trash trash okay no food for you um but nope she's trying she's trying
[00:32:25] to make them as you know that connection please I'm sorry I'm sorry Sasha city girls down because
[00:32:33] um the sit-down conversation they have where she's like I'm attracted to you and I think you're
[00:32:39] cool um and you know maybe you don't even know that I'm interested in you and I get territorial
[00:32:46] because you act a single and she wants him to be single but she also wants him to keep an eye out
[00:32:52] for her feelings and I was like oh just digging your grave man like you want this man to be single
[00:32:58] and still concerned stop it conversation yeah it's like you know talking to um what's animal
[00:33:06] like it's scared easy right that's how f boys are right like you don't want to spook them they come to you
[00:33:13] and they have to eat from your hand right so the best way to do it she was she was doing it too
[00:33:19] that's why I'm like but you've seen the game but you just have to be like he has to bring you food
[00:33:26] right never the other way around um it's all you always have to be like oh you wanted food
[00:33:32] sorry I forgot I'd be damned if a boy I like his friends are like she got you food what are you doing
[00:33:40] what are you doing no this is an expert level yeah so you just have to ignore
[00:33:49] and then I'll find you trust me trust he gotta pack up he gotta pack up Sasha I think he is
[00:33:57] almost 10 years older than her so I do see why
[00:34:00] he a little bit more seasoned in the game is that what it is yeah because he tells her he just got out
[00:34:06] of a situation that he got into too fast and it made him one of the approach relationships differently
[00:34:14] yeah also she summers home girls or dads and messy I mean again he's just pulling out all the
[00:34:23] there's nothing she can say she can't be like f summer I don't care because he's like no that's drama
[00:34:29] and anybody knows well that on her well I don't want to be with a girl that's you know uh not great
[00:34:34] to her but it is so easy to throw that back come on he only wants to date a girl's girl Sasha
[00:34:40] and that she can't be a girl's girl that she's dating summers ex fling or whatever and Noelle
[00:34:48] accurately assesses that yeah he's not in her he's like she's like okay
[00:34:53] he's not into me that's sad but she loses it all when she goes and cries to her you know like she's
[00:35:02] she's like in front of people she didn't she did it she didn't she held it on but what I'm saying
[00:35:08] is when she started to talk about you know her sadness she's like why don't people want me you
[00:35:12] know I start to feel undesirable and stuff like that I'm like no well no you do don't even
[00:35:16] understand it's not about desire you are going up against an expert level wizard in this one
[00:35:21] this is a this is a game this is a game it's like if you uh what's that stupid book the 48 laws of power
[00:35:28] it's like something like if you yeah it's like if you're uh if you're not observing the laws
[00:35:32] then that means you're losing the game and they're like I thought you were gonna say just
[00:35:36] not that into you well I mean no no I don't read that book I shouldn't have read the 48 laws
[00:35:40] power either so bad but anyway um but yeah but regardless you have to understand when they know
[00:35:46] how to play the game you lose uh huh you can't if you're not and if you're not playing the game
[00:35:52] you are losing the game essentially thank you yeah because she's coming in this from an honest
[00:35:57] point of view like hey I know you messed with my friend I'm willing to overlook that because
[00:36:00] I want to be like ma'am who is that you know he has he again I just feel like she's in aka
[00:36:09] has she never met kappa's in her life like it's not the stereotype but like caught call it what it is
[00:36:17] you got a k and a kappa they're looking at each other in a mirror right now okay they're both like
[00:36:22] they're both the prettiest person in the room thank you she is drop dead gorgeous are you kidding me
[00:36:28] no oh it's beautiful she's so kind such a bad honey and that like my god everything about her is
[00:36:35] perfect don't let that tall man get you that's what you think it's the height Sasha you think that's
[00:36:41] what I think it's the vibe but there is you want what you can't have I like that too I love a good
[00:36:49] chase but the thing is I would just text my friends about it right and be like oh my god
[00:36:54] like I really like him to you I'm gonna act like you don't exist I see through you how do I get
[00:36:59] Hendrix back and maybe Alex did you get a chance to talk to Hendrix like maybe we can get him back
[00:37:06] because you're a boy you're a guys guy we should be able to stop it you know get him because I think
[00:37:11] he was really good friends y'all were talking they had maybe half a conversation just remember
[00:37:16] file that in so that next time that you be like oh maybe we can get Hendrix back hook up with
[00:37:21] Hendrix in front of him who cares use them like they use us ladies come on yeah to know what
[00:37:27] else credit she does realize eventually that you know like hey I screwed up I dropped the ball on
[00:37:32] this one she said because I never should have revealed my hand and like all right all right
[00:37:37] you know thank god okay the rebound is coming you know she gets her hair all you know slayed or
[00:37:42] whatever at the salon so maybe we're gonna have the resurgence of Noelle city girl Noelle will
[00:37:47] be out looking for somebody to take her mind off of Alex because yeah we got a lot of information
[00:37:54] about how she feels about him how she feels about herself and even her daddy issues as well
[00:37:58] they were probably leading her to to wanting to connect with somebody like Alex or at least feel
[00:38:02] desirable so more from Noelle in the future I'm sure as someone you know daddy issues understood
[00:38:10] use that to your advantage harness it harness do not succumb
[00:38:17] harness
[00:38:21] can you imagine my port if I have a daughter it's card
[00:38:25] my poor niece anywhere we'll save that for later I'm sure
[00:38:32] so one person we haven't really talked about is nick the last episodes left us with a cliff
[00:38:38] hanger nick was informed they were a little handsy and it might be an issue so nick I really
[00:38:44] commend him for just going and addressing the problem like hey how do you feel I love Jordan so
[00:38:49] much nick says hey um it got back to me that y'all think I'm a little handsy and it's like Jordan
[00:38:55] from almost from her sleep was like yeah you are uh she yes but we don't feel threatened by you
[00:39:01] but like making no mistake you do be touching a lot and nick has to sit with that he really
[00:39:07] has to come to okay I don't I'm not making you feel uncomfortable and I'm definitely not doing
[00:39:12] on purpose but I also I shouldn't be touching you like that you know I just shouldn't but I should to
[00:39:18] me it feels like they have less of an issue with nick touching them and more of an issue with
[00:39:24] nick who has a girlfriend touching them because they bring up next girlfriend more than he does
[00:39:30] I don't think nick says anything about his girlfriend without one of the other girls in
[00:39:34] the house first bringing it up absolutely he does not um like I said I just think that there is a
[00:39:41] little bit of like he was in all our dms right like that's from last season of course and they just
[00:39:46] they kept going back and forth about that so I think that there is a like we'll stay away from us if
[00:39:51] you have a girlfriend like that kind of situation because they I'm sure they don't want to get caught
[00:39:56] up like the girls don't want to be seen as crazy yeah I don't blame them but I do find it very
[00:40:03] funny yeah because it very much feels like we don't approve of what nick is doing to his
[00:40:09] girlfriend when from what we've heard from all accounts you know as far as nick and his girlfriend
[00:40:15] neither one of them says that anything he's doing is an issue for their relationship but again
[00:40:20] jasmine was the one who just really wanted to address the nick problem last season was like oh you
[00:40:24] being all these people's dms we've heard it come up this season as well like why do y'all care so
[00:40:29] much that meant y'all did not give him the time of day y'all didn't date him y'all didn't fall
[00:40:33] in love with you he didn't play you he didn't cheat on his girlfriend with you he ain't bothering
[00:40:37] y'all I think y'all just think you like it like you said Sasha I think it's a little bit of like
[00:40:41] no you don't get to touch us or talk to us like that or even dms us or like that and you have a
[00:40:46] girlfriend yeah I think it's a lot of girl code I think you know underlying in there too yeah and
[00:40:52] I think there's just a little bit of like just this isn't cool stop yeah yeah we just I'm not cool
[00:40:58] with it and you know no one should be basically is how I feel and I'm not I understand that
[00:41:05] I think that's the right thing to do it's also very funny yeah I look I'm kind of loving it
[00:41:12] what else happened in this episode do we get did we get any update from Amir I feel like
[00:41:17] Amir being in a relationship makes him the most boring character on the show and keep
[00:41:23] I was very entertaining last year we learned so much about his heritage and you know about
[00:41:28] him like learning kind of getting to know his his black side of his uh if his heritage because
[00:41:32] we know he was raised with this other side of his family um we saw him you know in his pursuit of
[00:41:37] Jordan even though she wasn't feeling it you know we did see several layers of Amir I don't think
[00:41:42] we've got anything of note from Amir in these last few episodes he's just kind of there
[00:41:48] he's just trying to get his girlfriend to call him back and speak at the
[00:41:53] that's how I feel poor guy but like what's going on with them it's crazy and I just feel like
[00:42:02] he's looking crazy but they're still together so one might say anything but yeah I just feel
[00:42:07] that Amir is getting a little bit lost like I said most of the guys are because they're in
[00:42:12] relationships or they're Alex who is like trying not to be in a relationship and again these are
[00:42:20] the boys that are just the most dangerous because it's different if they're an F-boy and like
[00:42:25] if Nick were single right he would be like flirting with everyone talking with everyone blah blah
[00:42:31] Alex doesn't do that instead he like messes with your mind and wants to come off as like this enlightened
[00:42:38] you know like oh I'm I don't want to say better that's not the right word but oh I'm better than this
[00:42:44] he's above it yeah yes yes and that's what I always like giggle about because then why are
[00:42:51] you on the show summer house is known for young single attractive people hooking up
[00:42:57] yeah that's what I would like to see the only people hooking up in the house with Jasmine and Silas
[00:43:01] what the hell yeah they were hooking up constantly and it was becoming drama and that's the kind of drama
[00:43:06] we want to see you know yeah that's it um as far as Amir goes he's just there he's like everyone's
[00:43:13] emotional support person you know whenever there's crying or something like that he's always good
[00:43:17] to console people which is cool but at the same time as far as actual drama or anything of substance
[00:43:24] coming to the show we're not really seeing a lot and I don't think yeah and I and I think that the cast
[00:43:30] is super dynamic like in the first season everybody's great like I'm not complaining about any of them
[00:43:34] I don't hate any of these people but as far as content goes I mean what what do we have you know
[00:43:44] just it's just Amir's just hanging out he's just the friend and uh this is any other show
[00:43:49] we don't get Amir back next season without any without any drama before the end of this one like
[00:43:53] uh we might look up and he might be losing his uh what do they say on them house wash out losing his
[00:43:57] peach yes that's for Atlanta yeah well would be the Martha's Vineyard um thing I don't know they
[00:44:06] don't have a running thing yet yeah they don't have like a running thing yeah or what's like Martha's
[00:44:12] Vineyard known for like the grapes yeah like yeah you're losing it's grape or something I don't know
[00:44:18] we'll figure something out but you tell us in the chat what what should it be what are they losing
[00:44:24] the chat who should not come back next season because we ain't getting nothing from them right
[00:44:28] now that's what I really want to know if you're in the comments for me except honestly honestly I mean
[00:44:34] Preston could give me some more too you know we see Preston and a lot of times he's very much
[00:44:38] he's also above a lot of the drama do you think he needs another queer person I think so in general
[00:44:46] because he's getting a little bit like yeah type thing I feel was that and there are moments that he
[00:44:52] talks about where people just don't see his perspective he's like it's hard being the only
[00:44:56] queer person in the house and so I think just from a level of comfortability maybe it wouldn't
[00:45:01] hurt if he had somebody he could relate to a little bit more because he's on the show because
[00:45:06] he's Silas's frat brother Silas isn't even there and so he doesn't even have his initial
[00:45:13] connection to the group you know which was through his fraternity brother so yeah give Preston more to do
[00:45:20] because and then because and I like to see Preston in the drama either because he like like you could
[00:45:24] tell he's above it you can tell he sees when it's getting dramatic for no reason all the
[00:45:29] shouting that they're doing at dinner tables and stuff Preston he's over all of that
[00:45:34] he can't be 100% no so we need to bring Preston something to do because right now him and Amir yeah
[00:45:42] if I had to rank them I'd say they were at the bottom of my ranking was like as far as people
[00:45:46] who are actually bringing a lot of content to the show yeah yeah I agree unfortunately I agree
[00:45:53] and I just something needs to be shook up and I do think that the boys being both people
[00:46:00] everyone being single is the way to shake things up yeah you got you got to bring in some bring or
[00:46:08] bringing these uh these plus ones from the beginning let them be there from jump so we can see a
[00:46:13] girlfriend and him fighting would be fun right that's what's saying like why are we waiting you know
[00:46:18] even when Bri uh Bri is um husband or fiance they're not married yet um yeah Simon yeah yeah
[00:46:26] Simon when he comes you know there were so much drama surrounding what happens when Simon comes
[00:46:31] that when he came last time we got a little bit of drama from him Shanice was naked in the hot tub
[00:46:35] in front of him that was fun so yeah maybe bring in these plus ones from jump so we don't do the whole
[00:46:41] I'm gonna behave this whole time because my plus one is in here or whenever I have a problem
[00:46:46] I'm gonna go vent to my plus one like no we need y'all talking in the house we need all that
[00:46:49] drama to happen within the house so we have some good TV because these two episodes were cool
[00:46:54] but it was a lot of stuff that we've seen before a lot of like the the fights and the arguments were
[00:46:59] just it seemed like it was just kind of repetitious of what we've seen some of the smaller drama we
[00:47:05] saw in the first season so I need bigger stakes in these next couple episodes just something I need
[00:47:11] something more um and I don't want tears all right how about we find them right every time
[00:47:17] they cry I need something like that because yeah no I totally agree um some of the fun moments from
[00:47:25] these episodes they had a hood spelling bee which I thought was pretty cool um it's like why don't
[00:47:30] we do more stuff like that you know that that's that's always fun I'll give the cast this they're
[00:47:35] good at entertaining themselves because I don't know if it's just they're contractually obligated
[00:47:40] to do this Sasha but each of them kind of has a day yeah yeah there oh yeah yeah where they can
[00:47:45] just take it yeah and put put together like a whole themed dinner or lunch it like they have to
[00:47:52] plan an activity Sasha I feel like you'd be so good at this oh my god I think I would kill it yeah
[00:47:58] like the theme parties right up your alley I love a good theme party and I think I'm good even
[00:48:04] though I don't drink like that I'm very good at getting other people drunk and acting crazy
[00:48:11] so that's right I would thrive so we saw a Briah cello in this episode where Briah brought in an alpaca
[00:48:21] which was so random but like it kind of felt like a circus or like a music like what did they say
[00:48:26] they said it felt like a music festival once everybody had left Coachella was all the people
[00:48:30] were leaving Sasha what would you do if you had the Sasha day we're at the vineyard so hard
[00:48:37] um I do think I would do something pool party related because they do think people get a little
[00:48:41] bit crazier when there's water involved I don't know why so I think I would do like a
[00:48:47] like an a drink olympics so that's okay way to get people drunk I can't swim so I don't know about
[00:48:54] drinking and out and pool but I don't care and then I think there has to be an Instagramable
[00:49:00] moment right so those cute little pool floaties would be there um and then I'm having like fun food
[00:49:07] delivered you know like finger foods or like I mean I'm doing Indian food um so I think yeah we're
[00:49:14] having like a lot of like Indian finger foods everywhere so it's gonna be like a fun like
[00:49:21] you know olympics drink olympics and then we end with hollywood night of course
[00:49:27] or that could be my second thing where I also do a bollywood night no that sounds good I liked
[00:49:32] I liked in season one where mariah had her uh her thing where she was trying to bring everybody
[00:49:38] I like the idea of it the execution where they were all out sitting in the cold for
[00:49:42] a couple hours was wild but I like the idea of it you know like bring your own interest
[00:49:47] and then flip it to where everybody in the house gets it so Sasha when do you bring out
[00:49:51] the naked slipping slide for Shanice and I I way you the point is that that will be the like end of
[00:49:57] the relay you're the anchor that's the whole point it has to be naked or it doesn't count obviously
[00:50:05] what do you mean that's all Shanice is about and I love her listen she ain't got a job so she's
[00:50:10] got to close so she's like wow with him it's a sponsorship Shanice yeah I think she's a sponsor
[00:50:18] yeah oh those naked energy is it drinks the drinks naked juice or whatever naked oh my god right there
[00:50:27] quickly shindice get on it right now I know you're listening yes oh my gosh I love that are you
[00:50:35] what party would you do I think you're doing yeah I have one for you oh oh no what do you think
[00:50:42] no you okay I think you were doing something Greek related because you need a reason to bring
[00:50:49] the omega gear out because you're like oh all these alphas and capas I'm surrounded by yeah yeah I'm
[00:50:56] doing a omega barbecue is my question oh yeah yeah look at the bruce I have contract I'm contractually
[00:51:03] obligated to to bring both both baby oil and barbecue to whatever function I go to uh no no
[00:51:10] seriously I think you're right I think that uh like this house is full of Greek people you know
[00:51:15] we see this in campus we see alpha we see aka obviously um it would be wild for me to not flex
[00:51:22] that I am the bruce at some point but I think I would do that regardless I think like if we do
[00:51:27] this yeah like even at your uh at your swimming uh portion like at the pool party for the drink
[00:51:32] olympics you think I'm not wearing like camo like you're crazy you know we're doing the baby
[00:51:38] oil obviously um yeah I don't know I don't know what I would do I'm not really good at
[00:51:45] themes like I'm more like uh like I'm like if you put me in the party or I'm gonna keep the
[00:51:49] party good live but I like as far as like the you're good at me yeah yes exactly I'm the mce I am
[00:51:55] not the creator so I would let me partner with you and we can make it happen we can do like a
[00:52:00] tag team situation yeah 100 yeah 100 percent another cool thing they did in this episode
[00:52:07] or these pairs of episodes was they went to church um yeah I enjoyed that yeah Alex did the
[00:52:12] wake up call and was like hey let's go to church a few of them were hungover and was like I'm not
[00:52:17] going um but I'm serious I would have been at the church um I love church I love seeing people
[00:52:24] go to church yeah I think I would go yeah it's fun I've been to I think it's exciting
[00:52:32] I've been to a Catholic mass before Sasha I was so shocked because my church services for when I was
[00:52:38] younger I know I'm being in church for like ooh maybe like two-ish hours wow yeah I went to a Catholic
[00:52:46] mass I was like boy it's been about 15 20 minutes y'all are they wrapping up okay this is this is
[00:52:51] nice okay look oh that's cool yeah Shabbat service I mean we don't really go to uh yeah
[00:52:59] sometimes I will decide on synagogues based on how long services are so I'll be like I like going to
[00:53:05] that one because it's not as long as the other ones or like the rabbi um like you know you have
[00:53:12] sermons same thing um where you have to decide which rabbi a sermon you like because some sermons
[00:53:17] be going forever and you're just like please why yeah this is much so I find um and I grew up
[00:53:26] going to black church with my friends in Oklahoma obviously so every time we sleep over
[00:53:32] their mom would take me to the church and then drop me off at home um so it's just to me it's
[00:53:37] like really fun and I love the community yes so when you saw Alex go into the room and ask
[00:53:44] Summer if she wants to go to church but not no well did you think it was personal or was
[00:53:48] was this more mind games or did he just not think to ask her I don't think he meant to
[00:53:53] ask her but also this was just the night after right the conversation so like I'd be remiss to say
[00:54:00] that that wasn't playing in his mind because it's like one girl who quote been inside of or another
[00:54:09] that maybe I could yeah um yeah I thought like no well it's not that big of a deal but she's
[00:54:18] like I'm trying to be available like why can't why can't you like me oh my god stop it no well stop it
[00:54:25] don't want you look bria even hit her with a I mean I wasn't invited to church either I'm like
[00:54:31] yeah yeah it was a personal but I mean it could have been it could have been personal I don't
[00:54:35] I don't think it was but I mean I just hate to see no well looking at it like that because
[00:54:40] yeah she's in a blender now all everything that he does is going to feel like it's aimed at her
[00:54:45] in a way or even and even summer summer is picking up a lot of that too because she's like
[00:54:49] what about me you're inside me for the 15 time you know so why why are you not looking out for me
[00:54:55] in these situations he says something really crazy in episode five I can't wait to talk about this
[00:55:01] listen I can't wait to talk about it either um because that about wraps up our big storyline
[00:55:06] from uh season two episodes three and four is there anything I missed or anything else we need
[00:55:10] to talk about from these two episodes no did the Milo thing happen this episode or I think that's
[00:55:16] episode five can't wait Milo they you the real MVP yeah Milo has been a source of drama throughout
[00:55:22] the first two seasons obviously in season one they didn't know why Milo was there they didn't
[00:55:28] respect him as a service dog or a emotional support dog for bria it seems like now everybody's
[00:55:34] pretty okay with Milo but again with mariah coming we know mariah does not love dogs um even though
[00:55:41] I mean we kind of last lost over it but it wasn't me or who did the whole laundry thing
[00:55:48] yeah but uh Milo in these last couple episodes he's gotten a couple confessionals where we
[00:55:52] see him just kind of barking we see somebody picking up his uh dog uh droppings as well
[00:55:59] so I don't know we got very peaceful from Milo but like you said uh I think we might
[00:56:03] have some interesting stuff from Milo to come in the next moment yeah um with bria and how they cut
[00:56:10] the editing is very good you'll see so yeah I didn't know because that was my funny moment to bring
[00:56:15] up but I listen they're doing the same things every day okay it's and I can't I can't not watch
[00:56:21] because I love their show okay and we got a question for you as well for one of the listeners
[00:56:27] it says Sasha is this appropriate for your friend to date the guy that you used to mess around with
[00:56:34] and I'm assuming this is talking about noelle and summer in regards to alex obviously yeah
[00:56:43] you know I don't it's not I don't believe in swapping spit like that part and to me it's just
[00:56:49] not attractive I don't know about you but if I see someone like my friends into I'm like
[00:56:54] immediately that part it makes you handle yeah no the same same like uh it's it's like the least
[00:57:01] the most unattractive thing a woman can do to me is to date one of my friends yeah the moment it happens
[00:57:07] I'm like I'm out like that you you're like you just I just don't see you anymore desirable because
[00:57:15] like I don't want to get into that there's too much drama there's too much stuff then I
[00:57:18] maybe I'm missing out I'm blocking my blessing or something like that I don't care I'll be okay
[00:57:22] if it's supposed to happen then it'll happen but I mean I'm not pursuing it there's just no world
[00:57:28] I agree I agree it's just something about it I don't think even kiss someone that my friend
[00:57:33] is kissed like I just I can't grant it thankfully like we our types are very different but
[00:57:40] even then it's just not cute for me I don't get how guys do it all this I like it's weird
[00:57:46] like to me you're I'm just immediately not attracted to you and I find you to just be like
[00:57:52] not even like I'm just like you're alien like you're just there yeah I just I'm nothing you
[00:57:57] I don't dislike you I don't think you're repulsive anything like that I just a nice friend but that's
[00:58:01] it yeah yeah I think for me there's a part of it there's an ego as well because like oh you dated
[00:58:07] my friend and now you want to date me where was I you know like hold on pause like I'm like
[00:58:13] why would you even look at me if you were both yeah you know that was my friend yeah right but
[00:58:19] you know that was my friend so why are you even looking at me in this way like you it seems like
[00:58:22] you want to stir up drama as far as I'm concerned so I'm avoiding that every time there's too many
[00:58:28] fish in the sea y'all like it's a lot of boys are like buses one leaves the next one will show up
[00:58:34] do not stretch
[00:58:38] just wait there is always gonna be someone for you but granted so to date them as hard
[00:58:46] and I think that's the difference between I don't know you tell me but like men and women where I
[00:58:51] think sometimes like women will see a man in a relationship and you're like well that's what I want
[00:58:57] and then that's why the attraction somehow starts at you're like oh he's so good to insert human
[00:59:05] so that might be cute but again I'm like great that's the bare minimum
[00:59:10] right right it's married to me my poor husband but I can't like to me being a nice person and
[00:59:16] like being a good partner is the bare minimum what do you mean you're praising your husband
[00:59:21] to do basic shit like get out of here bro yeah now that's a good point I think for women yeah they see
[00:59:28] a good guy being good to their to their to a woman and they're like oh that person is husband material
[00:59:33] they're a really good guy and so when he's available it's like yeah why not um but for me
[00:59:39] looking at it in the other direction I'm like if I see a woman who's really good to her husband
[00:59:44] I'm like oh she's really good to him thus they must have like this unbroken bond or something
[00:59:50] you know what I'm saying like that's a thin thing if I remember to come and do this I'm always going
[00:59:55] to think is that person going to outweigh me still if she goes to be like that with him
[00:59:59] she can't possibly be that same person with me because I'm led to believe that they're like
[01:00:03] that together because they there are such deep love or this connection as opposed to she just
[01:00:08] does that with everybody like I'm sorry I just can't like I can't wrap my mind around it
[01:00:12] cheating whatever if they're cheating on their spouse what who am I right right exactly look
[01:00:19] at Tristan Thompson be serious look look at Tristan Thompson should be the name of the
[01:00:26] podcast so we just started saying look at Tristan Thompson
[01:00:30] listen third time master Thompson it is a known fact and it happens over and over when are we
[01:00:36] gonna learn they don't want to learn they don't save them they don't want to be saved
[01:00:40] they they're it's so embarrassing it really is um yeah that's so that's how I feel where I just
[01:00:46] think that if he's willing to do it to them he will do it to you they will never change for you
[01:00:52] stop being delusional that part and with that Sasha that's a wrap that wraps up our season
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