The Boondocks Vs Good Times: Black Again

[00:00:00] What's up fam?

[00:00:19] It's Chappelle back again for another episode of Recap Kickback.

[00:00:23] This time bringing you something that we have been promising for a while, that we've

[00:00:27] been talking about for a while, we've gotten plenty of comments and emails and all kinds

[00:00:31] of suggestions about having to do this.

[00:00:33] And so I never thought the day would come but we are talking about the boondocks.

[00:00:39] Episodes one and two that's the premiere of the boondocks episode one and two as a way

[00:00:43] to kind of wrap up this season of I guess satire that we've been talking about.

[00:00:48] So these last couple podcasts our Thursday episodes have been dedicated to shows that

[00:00:53] are satire but we're not well received by the public.

[00:00:57] First we talked about Good Times Black Again which we know got a lot of critical response

[00:01:02] from a lot of people, people were boycotting it and then the following episode we talked

[00:01:07] about the magical association of American black folks.

[00:01:14] We talked about that movie as well and we had some opinions about it.

[00:01:18] You can check that out the American Society of the Magical Negroes right there but here

[00:01:25] we are going to be talking about the boondocks which is you know well we will save our opinions

[00:01:31] for the boondocks for the podcast.

[00:01:33] One thing I will say before we jump right in is that trigger warning this is your first

[00:01:39] content warning here on Recap Kickback it's about to get real okay?

[00:01:44] We are about to let down some of the guards, take the kid gloves off and we are really going

[00:01:49] to talk about the show and we're going to match the energy of the boondocks.

[00:01:53] That is my disclaimer for you if you watch the boondocks and that's not for you neither

[00:01:56] is this podcast.

[00:01:57] If you watch the boondocks and you thought hey that is for me that content, the language,

[00:02:01] the words all that stuff is for me here you are so this is your last chance to

[00:02:05] tap out if this is not for you we will see you next week on Recap Kickback where

[00:02:09] we discuss something else that might be a little bit up your alley.

[00:02:12] That being said, let's bring in my co-host with the most of my partner in crime I guess

[00:02:20] if I am Riley Freeman this is Huey Freeman or you know or Huey Freeman in woman form

[00:02:26] it's Mari.

[00:02:27] Mari what's up?

[00:02:28] I'm good I'm good I'm here to talk about the boondocks rewatching it after oh my

[00:02:34] god how when did it premiere 2010 I believe?

[00:02:37] No let me get this wrong it was prior to 2010 though.

[00:02:41] Somewhere around it but yeah it was in 2005 Mari you always Mari you've been late to the

[00:02:48] party 2005 I was definitely in high school that's age myself yeah this was yeah so

[00:02:56] college thing maybe we just watch after Ray but before the Ray that you thought

[00:03:01] Ray had you remember.

[00:03:03] Yeah I just need to stop guessing like three years basically um yeah but no I did

[00:03:10] watch the boondocks when it came on I just didn't know the year because I think

[00:03:15] it's because like I said with Ray I associate watching things with time

[00:03:20] periods in my life and we used to watch the boondocks in college just over and

[00:03:26] over again everybody would come over and watch it over and over again but

[00:03:29] anyways to revisit almost after almost 20 years really is it was good I was

[00:03:37] like oh wow episode two I was like I didn't realize this was episode two yeah

[00:03:43] right out the gate yeah right out the gate so mm-hmm and so Mari gets a trip

[00:03:49] down memory lane all the way back to the year of our lord 2005 and we have

[00:03:54] with us are you know third co-host here who has admitted several times he

[00:04:00] hasn't seen the boondocks he doesn't know these people and it's not

[00:04:05] familiar to him so I'm dying to talk about it with Tyrone Tyrone welcome back

[00:04:10] what's up Ty I'm excited man this is this is dope I've never watched the boondocks

[00:04:19] before until recently I watched a couple of episodes try to get my get my feet

[00:04:24] wet or whatever the case can be and actually I'm gonna walk something that

[00:04:27] Chappelle said back a little bit because if you watch the boondocks and

[00:04:31] it's not for you but we some niggas that you trust stay tuned look the disclaimer

[00:04:39] is only specifically for the language you know I recently read Keenan Thompson's

[00:04:43] book and Keenan Thompson has made a very like long-storied career about being

[00:04:48] you know a very like I guess he's not a spicy comedian you know I'm saying

[00:04:54] he's very family friendly and you know I try to give like family friendly with

[00:04:58] like that devil wink you know so but this is about to be just do not let your

[00:05:03] children listen to this you know like if they love Chappelle talking about all

[00:05:06] the goofy stuff and survivor and their 14 year old maybe the same for them

[00:05:12] because I'm about to talk about my favorite moments in the boondocks

[00:05:15] Mari and it's a lot of them and they're good and they're not clean

[00:05:21] we got to capture the essence of the show as we talk about it so of course

[00:05:26] of course we got to go there yes yes and so if you're listening to this

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[00:05:52] caught up on the recap kickback guys so I'm not a part of the hive but I did

[00:05:57] love listening to the panel discussion about Beyonce and listen to several of

[00:06:01] the songs that were mentioned she doesn't sound country but this is a

[00:06:04] country album I didn't know that Lucas a junior had died who was a great

[00:06:10] actor and I'm about to watch early you guys are awesome over at the

[00:06:13] recap so informative please have Sasha back on the show she's so funny

[00:06:17] I love you guys there you go so thank you for that yeah that's Sasha's burner

[00:06:22] account by the way trying to get back on the podcast but yes thank you for the

[00:06:29] feedback again if you want to email us recapkickbackatgmail.com we also got

[00:06:35] an email from Trevor States Trevor says loving the recap kickback please

[00:06:39] make the top five boondocks episode happen so listen there's four seasons of

[00:06:44] boondocks we're gonna talk about some of the best moments or whatever but Ty

[00:06:48] hasn't done enough research to really get into the top five moments like don't

[00:06:51] them fighting words if you get them answers wrong Mari yeah yeah a top five

[00:06:57] boondocks episodes I I know at least three of my favorite so I'd be very

[00:07:03] that would be very fun to do actually yeah so once I come back and once Ty

[00:07:10] watches everything that's what gives me enough time to get yeah yeah yeah and for

[00:07:17] the uninitiated for the people who do not know our time with Mari is limited

[00:07:21] Mari you have some big news yeah yeah I mean I've been talking about it yeah so

[00:07:26] depending on when you listen to this I mean I have either given birth or I'm

[00:07:32] about to give birth so I'll be on maternity leave at least until like

[00:07:35] june so the chappelle officially has the keys so I you know I mean it is his

[00:07:44] show he been had the keys but there's nobody to like stop him yeah yeah

[00:07:50] so to be like there you go yeah exactly this is what happened with Mari leaves

[00:07:57] we talked about the boondocks yeah Mars definitely the person at the party

[00:08:00] who turned the lights on and was like all right y'all it's time to go whereas

[00:08:04] I'm the person at the party it's dark and I got sunglasses on I'm just dancing in

[00:08:07] the middle like wait where's everybody going you know so yeah so congratulations

[00:08:12] to Mari yeah but we don't have a little we got a little fun while she's gone but

[00:08:18] I want to talk about these episodes of the boondocks the first episode which

[00:08:22] I believe is the garden party and the second episode which is the R Kelly

[00:08:25] trial we I want to talk about these episodes but I do want to talk about

[00:08:30] how it does compare to you know some of the feedback and the criticism we had

[00:08:35] for good times cold and black again and the American Society of Magical Negroes

[00:08:40] because we were at best neutral on some of parts of those two things but I think

[00:08:48] anybody that we talked to has been high on those things and so I want to talk

[00:08:52] about the boondocks because for the most part you don't get a lot of complaints

[00:08:55] about the boondocks but I will take this back to 2005 the boondocks was

[00:08:59] definitely not received well at first people were boycotting it and they

[00:09:04] allude to people boycotting the boondocks and complaining about the boondocks in

[00:09:08] the actual show Mari I believe it's the episode where Jasmine has a lemonade

[00:09:12] stand and every morning QE listens to the radio and he puts his jacket on it's

[00:09:17] the middle of the summertime if you don't if you're confused watch the

[00:09:20] episode you'll see but every episode he listens to something and the radio

[00:09:24] guy is like yep some man named Reverend Al Sharpton's up in arms again

[00:09:28] complaining about some cartoon you would think he had better things to do as a

[00:09:31] man of God he was talking about the boondocks they were really outlining

[00:09:35] how some people were not a fan of this kind of content and the jokes and the

[00:09:39] way it was presented so it's not out of the question for people to feel this

[00:09:43] way about satire Mari yeah it's it's kind of interesting how you know

[00:09:48] history and the further you get away from it how you can kind of forget

[00:09:54] you know I'm saying like just like the I have a dream speech everybody loves it

[00:09:59] now forgot like people didn't love Martin back then so it's the same thing I do

[00:10:06] remember like the boondocks being semi polarizing back then and again I I

[00:10:11] think it's truly because back then the people who were pulled who didn't

[00:10:16] like it did not understand the satire behind it you know I'm saying and so

[00:10:22] it's so easy to fall into not knowing the satire and thinking that everything is

[00:10:28] genuine and then being like well this isn't a good representation of black

[00:10:32] people which is what you know they were saying so it it's so funny to think

[00:10:37] how universally loved it was and received in my circle in my community

[00:10:41] and then as soon as you said I was like all of that yeah so interesting

[00:10:49] yeah people had a lot of complaints and even I mean if you really look back at

[00:10:54] history the NAACP wanted to boycott the original good times as well because it

[00:10:59] wasn't a great depiction of a black family because they were impoverished

[00:11:03] Ty this was your first time sitting through a couple full episodes of the

[00:11:06] boondocks did you feel any strong differences between the way the

[00:11:10] boondocks maybe presented what would be looked at as problematic from

[00:11:14] society standpoint to like maybe like good times where you know kind of like the

[00:11:20] first thing that jumps out to me is in good times black again we had a we had

[00:11:23] a drug dealing baby but in the boondocks we have an eight year old who is

[00:11:29] liable to pull out a gun and cut you out yeah so why is there such a big

[00:11:33] difference in the two the way two of these things are absorbed you know I

[00:11:38] don't know if I was able to capture the exact reason why I felt a

[00:11:44] difference and honestly speaking of like forgetting you know what we thought of

[00:11:49] things back then or being open to things as we are in our older age or whatever

[00:11:53] the case may be I'm Mari Mari Mari Mari when we wash good times black again

[00:12:00] you specifically was upset about the booty jiggle but the first four minutes

[00:12:11] of boondocks he's doing karate jump never ruin it but naked peekable with us

[00:12:17] yeah that was that was funny I mean like I'm not seeing cartoon simulated sex

[00:12:26] personally to your question Chappelle is the laity of it was definitely on a

[00:12:36] higher level in boondocks than it was and the other things that we've talked

[00:12:41] about so far I was dying laughing at that first episode I could not stop laughing

[00:12:48] at it and so that might be the answer is like you can go that far possibly to

[00:12:55] certain people obviously there was some disdain for it early on but you could

[00:12:58] possibly go that far with certain people if it's funny if the satire is and

[00:13:04] that might be the issue that we're coming across is that the satire might

[00:13:07] not have necessarily hit yeah and you might you bring up a very good point

[00:13:14] Ty because if we're kind of comparing the three properties that we watch that

[00:13:21] have that were about satire to me good times black again pushed it too much

[00:13:26] like just push the satire way too much way past the point like was it supposed

[00:13:32] to be satire was supposed to be straight up comedy to the point where

[00:13:35] if it's supposed to be straight up comedy you know comedy is subjective to the

[00:13:40] American Society of Magical Negroes where we're like they didn't push it nearly

[00:13:44] enough wasn't funny at all and and boondocks kind of slides in the

[00:13:50] middle by finally finding a middle ground where the satire is overt while

[00:13:55] being funny while also making you think if you really want to think so yeah

[00:14:02] and to that point right I think if you want to think right and so so to that

[00:14:07] point I remember at the end of the I didn't like the second episode of boondocks

[00:14:11] I didn't like the R Kelly episode what actually fell asleep on it fell asleep

[00:14:19] on it and and y'all brought up y'all brought up became on 2005 that was my

[00:14:23] freshman year college right and so at this point in my age I have not to be

[00:14:30] punny but I've survived the R Kelly era and that's not to diminish the actual

[00:14:35] true survivors of it so the error is kind of like out of sight out of mind

[00:14:40] there's no debate there's no the nigga wrong there's no illiterate side of

[00:14:46] right and support for them and the literate side of not support for him

[00:14:52] there's no sides it's the nigga is wrong and so at this point the stage

[00:14:56] I'm kind of like okay yeah I get it I understand right and I understood that

[00:15:00] it came out back then but I kind of fell asleep on it but at the end of the

[00:15:04] episode there was a conclusion that they came to where it was like a message

[00:15:09] that was sent where he was like hey these are people even though you don't

[00:15:13] agree with them so I love them right like Uncle Ruckus yeah right with you

[00:15:19] know playing checkers with Uncle Ruckus you know I mean like after the first

[00:15:23] episode so that was the message that I understood came from it whether I

[00:15:27] agree with it or not when I saw Good Times Black again I didn't get a message I

[00:15:33] just got maybe information and it was like okay we want you I don't know if they

[00:15:38] want me to go research this do they want me to come to a solution do what they

[00:15:42] want me to come to a conclusion of something or do they want me to talk

[00:15:45] about it in my family household and then grow it beyond there I don't know

[00:15:48] what they're trying to say to me right and I talked about that and that when

[00:15:53] we talked about that in the episode too so I think that's where I came from with it

[00:15:57] and we will we're not gonna step on Chevelle's toes we will definitely get

[00:16:02] to the R. Kelly episode and break all that down we sure will we sure will

[00:16:06] because I got some context for that episode as well to talk about but yeah

[00:16:10] I think I hear both of you what y'all are saying and I think my issue like I

[00:16:15] like I think Mari hit the nail on the head with the American Society of

[00:16:18] Magical Negroes it it almost felt earnest and so when you're watching it you feel

[00:16:23] like someone is really telling you that no this is where your black magic comes

[00:16:26] from you know you this is what you should use it for because you could see

[00:16:30] so many parallels in real life like yes white people feeling uncomfortable is

[00:16:34] dangerous to black people it just is because that's when they call the

[00:16:38] police the police feel uncomfortable they pull their guns you know etc etc so I

[00:16:42] understand that but am I laughing at that not really you know you could

[00:16:46] paint that in a way to where I don't feel like I'm the victim of that and maybe I

[00:16:49] will laugh where it's like I feel like boondocks black again to me felt more

[00:16:54] like a cartoon yeah good times like good I'm sorry yeah but it felt more like

[00:17:00] a cartoon to me than the boondocks the book the boondocks feels like an

[00:17:02] animated sitcom you know like they wake up they're doing human things

[00:17:07] it's absurd human things but it's still human things that can happen right

[00:17:11] whereas good times black again they were talking coke cockroaches you know the

[00:17:16] nun just robbed this man out of the taxi just jumped the fence in like you know

[00:17:20] like I kind of think like the baby is selling drug like these things are so

[00:17:23] far removed from reality there's like yes they're satire but also it just it's

[00:17:29] like a cartoon and I think at our ages it's kind of like you know do you

[00:17:33] want a cartoon that gives you cartoon energy or cartoon that gives you like

[00:17:37] maybe like sitcom energy like mario I know you're a big adult animation

[00:17:41] person but yeah one of my favorite cartoons is Bojack Horseman and I love

[00:17:45] Bojack I love it because I understand that character on a deep level nobody

[00:17:49] will understand Bojack like I understand Bojack but it's cartoony but the

[00:17:53] storyline itself is such a sitcom right whereas like you got you understand it

[00:17:59] gets so dramatic as well whereas whereas good times black again I felt

[00:18:02] like you can follow the storyline through but it's surrounded by so many

[00:18:06] like antics that it really just takes away from there is a message there and I

[00:18:11] think that that's what I'm lacking in it the question is how serious are we

[00:18:16] supposed to take this right and I'm asking when I want yeah and it's it's

[00:18:20] the medium of animation it was it the the creator of Disney's golden

[00:18:28] era talks about how animation is like the future in the forefront when it

[00:18:34] comes to medium because you can stretch the imagination and use it to do

[00:18:39] things that you can't do in the real world and that's good when we're talking

[00:18:45] Disney fairy tales but when we're talking about something that is supposed

[00:18:49] to from my creator told us is supposed to like make us think and stuff

[00:18:54] like that when you have such outlandish animated things like

[00:19:01] I was pointing out the talking cockroach stuff that is made tailor made for

[00:19:05] that medium it automatically kind of takes it down a little bit it automatically

[00:19:10] takes it into a realm where you know unfortunately animation is seen as

[00:19:16] maybe a lesser medium so it's like it comes I can come off not kitty but

[00:19:25] it definitely comes I'm not supposed to take you seriously that we are hard

[00:19:31] wired it's like I'm not supposed to take you seriously because you are doing

[00:19:34] things that are just completely unimaginable to the real world you're

[00:19:38] doing something that would only exist in an animated show and then on top of

[00:19:42] that we talked about it but there are so many things layered on top of each

[00:19:46] other in a way that just you know wasn't as cohesive so like if we

[00:19:55] said it like if they had taken a few things away at certain times maybe we

[00:20:00] could have seen the underlying message but it was like so much going on we

[00:20:03] almost were like we couldn't really focus and I agree with you with Bojack

[00:20:10] and the boondocks that sense of like it almost you almost forget that the

[00:20:15] medium is animation because it feels like this is real it feels like this is

[00:20:21] some real stuff while also keeping a perfect balance of tone where there is

[00:20:27] actual satire and there is comedy and you can actually pinpoint what they're

[00:20:32] being exaggerated of such a tight rope balancing act that it's so hard to get

[00:20:40] right nowadays yeah and I right there I'm sorry that's the line you can

[00:20:46] pinpoint exactly what they're exaggerating that's that that's it

[00:20:50] right there yeah yeah and the shows highlight that you know with the boondocks

[00:20:54] you definitely get moments where uh where you know it's depicted as this is a

[00:20:58] cartoon and then all of a sudden you have like the moments where the music changes

[00:21:01] and you hear the overlock the underlying like tone kind of take the lead

[00:21:05] of the episode right so it's like all this like you got R. Kelly up on the

[00:21:09] thing dance and da da da da da but then you shift it and then at the end

[00:21:13] you have Huey monologuing about you know uh you know the the people who

[00:21:18] are uh you know like an uncle ruckus character and their relationships you

[00:21:20] know that kind of thing those monologuing moments is kind of like the sobering

[00:21:23] moments right and I think bojack is very cartoony it is very like outlandish

[00:21:28] absurd but it has so many of those sobering moments so many you know and

[00:21:32] that's that's a crazy pun didn't mean to say sobering for bojack but you know

[00:21:35] like it just is um if there's so many moments satire within itself because

[00:21:40] it's exactly like um animals that are then doing human things so it's like

[00:21:45] exactly much right but it feels like good time and then you know the other

[00:21:50] feedback we got of course about good times black again is that they should have

[00:21:53] named it good times I think that a lot of people go in they hear good times and

[00:21:57] they think of the good times that they know right and so even though it was

[00:22:00] pushed back against in the in the uh in the real time uh people came to love

[00:22:05] it and appreciate it even if they don't like the show people that

[00:22:08] never seen good time could tell you good times is one of the best sitcoms

[00:22:11] you know black sitcoms of all time all block people will always like

[00:22:14] always be able to tout it in the conversation for like legendary black

[00:22:17] sitcoms and similar to what you were talking about around sobering moments

[00:22:23] although good times the whole damn show is a sobering moment but every time

[00:22:29] but at the end of each show for most of the shows there was usually a dialogue

[00:22:35] between the you know characters on the show that expressed the message

[00:22:39] that they wanted to send off send you off with and that's the same thing that

[00:22:44] we're looking for here is what is that message and you know if it's cartoonish

[00:22:50] where are you exaggerating it can we pinpoint it and are we good to go there

[00:22:54] so I think and you know my the black again I hate it I'm sorry please

[00:22:59] yeah it's like what does that mean anyway okay that said we got a lot of the

[00:23:04] commentary out of the way but we do have to eventually talk about the

[00:23:08] episodes and so the first episode the dinner party

[00:23:14] marie this is the episode that popped off the boondocks I remember

[00:23:18] cartoon network advertising this episode was about to drop I remember leading up

[00:23:22] to it the week of seeing the commercials of hui freeman saying

[00:23:28] Jesus is black the government lied to you about 9 11 Ronald Reagan is the

[00:23:32] devil yep and that was the commercial they were

[00:23:36] playing on a loop and to see the way the white people were reacting at the dinner

[00:23:41] party and stuff like that it was like yeah do I need to be watching this let me go

[00:23:45] watch this and so I was very excited when I

[00:23:48] realized that oh my god that was the premiere episode we really about to

[00:23:50] jump into one of my favorite episodes of the boondocks like it's not a top

[00:23:54] five episode to me but I know about heart marie this is this is one of

[00:23:57] those ones that you just never forget

[00:23:59] yeah I I do remember watching garden party but I remember being that excited for

[00:24:04] and then being like okay like you know I'm saying I

[00:24:08] I would say that for me episode two is is better and I just looked at like the

[00:24:14] I try I just reminded myself like what's next

[00:24:18] and I mean that first season is just bangers nigger after banger after banger

[00:24:25] like wow um episode one does set up it does

[00:24:31] set up the dynamics I think in a but but in a way that's like not too much right

[00:24:36] so it's like very yeah it's very smooth like you get granddad is just

[00:24:41] extra I honestly think this is a granddad's episode kind of

[00:24:44] he's just so extra talking about how he moved him into this nice white

[00:24:48] neighborhood and y'all gotta behave and then you

[00:24:52] so and you you get the you get Huey's like black

[00:24:56] revolutionary and you you just get a sprinkle of Riley just being the complete

[00:25:01] opposite of that and it just works you get the introduction of

[00:25:06] uncle ruckus and so this is a great opening episode

[00:25:10] and the fact that the season takes off after it is just

[00:25:15] I'm definitely gonna go back and start watching this again especially

[00:25:20] on my leave I have plenty of time

[00:25:24] yeah yeah look um yeah so let's jump into the cast

[00:25:29] so episode one uh we're gonna encounter our

[00:25:33] our main characters in Huey Freeman uh Riley Freeman

[00:25:38] granddad and then to a lesser extent Ed Wensler

[00:25:41] senior um so if you cannot catch the voice if you're

[00:25:45] first of all if you're completely unfamiliar with the boondocks welcome

[00:25:47] we're about to give you a class on the boondocks and everything you

[00:25:50] need to know about it but if you've already seen the show you know what

[00:25:53] I'm about to say Regina King plays both Huey and Riley Freeman

[00:25:57] and this is like as far as I'm concerned

[00:26:01] this is a role that she will be known for for the rest of my life Ty she is

[00:26:05] having these dialogues and these sibling debates with herself throughout

[00:26:08] this entire cartoon for four seasons and it's so good

[00:26:13] Regina I'm sorry I was not aware of your game I'm not familiar with your work

[00:26:16] baby yeah with your work yo when like I didn't I don't

[00:26:21] think I caught it I definitely didn't catch that it was Regina King as I

[00:26:25] watched the first episode when I saw the credits that's what I was like

[00:26:29] oh snap yeah and and for her to be able to play uh like

[00:26:36] Mari was talking about the the dynamic between these two

[00:26:41] siblings is is super dope um to be able to

[00:26:45] speak the language of the young kids that

[00:26:49] probably would think this certain way you know and with a little bit of an

[00:26:54] adult mind attached to it I would say because it's a little bit grown

[00:26:59] especially Huey right um that is it's amazing um I thought they did

[00:27:03] awesome uh I definitely can't wait till we talk about probably one of my

[00:27:06] favorite characters a little bit later on in the episode but

[00:27:09] I rocks with Regina on this one she she she's definitely killed and I'm

[00:27:13] I'm excited it makes me excited to watch more episodes beyond the content

[00:27:18] that was expressed just hearing her express herself within these two

[00:27:23] characters I'm gonna I want to see how they grow

[00:27:26] yeah um she does a great job I mean it just it is what it is you

[00:27:30] you hear her voice and then you hear her voice playing

[00:27:34] against its own self you hear her saying words you never thought we would

[00:27:37] hear her say uh you know and you just like man like

[00:27:41] she gets it she's okay I feel it and you know she really ate this role

[00:27:45] but the boondocks is about these two kids uh Riley and Huey Freeman have moved

[00:27:50] to Woodcrest with their granddad um who was played by one of our legends uh

[00:27:56] you know our late legends John Witherspoon uh John Witherspoon passing

[00:28:00] away was very sad to me we watched a lot of John Witherspoon

[00:28:03] but between the three of us but for some reason like that's that's pops

[00:28:07] and that's granddad you know and so Mari that was the one thing I didn't

[00:28:11] like about this rewatch there are so many characters from the boondocks

[00:28:14] that are no longer with us yeah yeah but it is a way for their legacy to live on

[00:28:20] and it just reminded me how funny that man is he was in comedy for such a long

[00:28:26] time and for him to bless us with so many legendary characters

[00:28:32] that's what this is for that's what this medium is for is to remind

[00:28:35] remind you of his genius and it's just he's just so hilarious as a granddad

[00:28:40] he really is and he started this comedic career and just to see like everything

[00:28:47] just start to come natural for him especially this particular role like

[00:28:52] it's it's just a beautiful thing to see the artistry is yeah yeah

[00:28:57] and so in this episode Riley and Huey are confronted with granddad's new

[00:29:02] Woodcrest you know he's moved them out into into the suburbs

[00:29:05] he said I spent all your inheritance on this house and so uh you know they

[00:29:09] will be getting nothing from this except to get to live in granddad's white

[00:29:12] washed world where he is he thinks he's made it you know this is like his idea

[00:29:16] of status he's here to live in the white neighborhood and impress the white folks as well

[00:29:22] and so the episode starts as ty has pointed out with something that is actually not in

[00:29:27] the dvd cut I forgot that granddad was butt ass naked doing the uh the ty bow

[00:29:32] he said thanks billy blanks you know I had the dvd and I think it was blurred

[00:29:38] so I was shocked that hbo max gave you a face full of junk yeah I had to watch it on uh

[00:29:45] Xfinity stream on adults adult swim so it was blurred for me

[00:29:50] it's full on junk oh and he yeah yeah and uh granddad says uh why buy the tape when

[00:29:58] you can get the infomercial for free

[00:30:00] yes um but yes this is how we're introduced to our characters granddad is absurd he's yelling at

[00:30:10] the kids because they drank his orange juice uh it is a full day supply of vitamin c but he didn't get

[00:30:15] it uh because these ingrates these uh grateful children are there and they are not taking

[00:30:21] his sacrifices or uh you know and seriously and they're not appreciating him marry he was attacked

[00:30:27] by dogs for this for them to live his life yes dogs and he said were you you're like what do you mean

[00:30:40] I think a horrible generation of people take credit but where you actually attacked my dogs and my

[00:30:47] and the flashback was just hilarious oh my gosh that's it how you call show a blade to the

[00:30:54] rally I went to go get my uh my raincoat we've been watching the same shit on the news why you

[00:31:00] ain't breaking they've been doing this they've been doing this firehose thing all week he said who

[00:31:07] brings this nigga went to get a motherfucker raincoat

[00:31:15] Robert young robert freeman said I bet you wish you had your raincoat right now

[00:31:19] uh but the the thing about the flashback we get is really a sobering look at granddad and where he

[00:31:26] comes from right because red older generation telling you about how hard life was for him

[00:31:31] how he's had to sacrifice how he had to struggle how he had to walk 15 miles in the snow for

[00:31:35] it to get to school just for us to have the creature comfort that we have right now

[00:31:39] and hui freeman is he is the person who is supposed to be out what not the audience

[00:31:44] but he's definitely supposed to be the the guy with the koofy saying message you know the

[00:31:49] person who is probably pulling back the wool on a lot of these issues and you know in good times

[00:31:55] black again we did kind of have that with uh marseille's character uh as the the daughter

[00:32:03] in that role but it was so cartoonish like she was so a part of the storyline on a lot of ways

[00:32:09] that it didn't feel like she was on the outside looking in at the shenanigans and highlighted them

[00:32:14] she was almost a part of that the shenanigans too much for me to take her seriously as like the

[00:32:18] hui freeman role at least that's because i was trying to compare what she was talking about

[00:32:23] and what he was doing and while they're both revolutionaries it does hit a little different

[00:32:27] when it's coming from her versus him i think it was it hit you over the head too much with

[00:32:33] marseille martin's characters like every two days after she asked her remind you that she

[00:32:38] is the activist she is this when hui just has his hui has that silent just

[00:32:45] that look that most of us get when we're around niggatry and we're just like

[00:32:52] like i want to stop you but yeah i want to stop you but do i feel like arguing with you right now

[00:32:58] i guess i'll just say what i'm gonna say you know sometimes you don't need to

[00:33:02] complete keep reminding people you're so different from these people you know what i'm saying like

[00:33:07] she says it hui shows it right but are you even that different you know that's the thing

[00:33:12] with hui sitting here hui very much is on his high horse throughout this he's going to be above all

[00:33:18] the rest of the stuff but he is also going to be involved in a lot of the moments moving forward

[00:33:23] hui is not exempt hui's just like uh he's he's basically a baby hotel you know and it is one

[00:33:30] of these you know he about one grand rising from pissing me off on the internet you know i'm saying so

[00:33:37] i i love hui as a character but yeah ty he points out very quickly that the older generation

[00:33:43] has been taking credit for a lot of the struggles that happen and we've seen the pictures of the

[00:33:47] dogs and the fireholes and stuff like that but not every black person had to go through that and

[00:33:52] so thus just by being older it doesn't mean by that by virtue of that you have paved the

[00:33:57] way for a hui's generation and i think he's he's right in calling granddad out but i think those

[00:34:03] moments are what resonates with new viewers yeah and it's um he's coming from the the idea and i

[00:34:10] can recall this very vividly especially of uh new generation hotels um in that where they have left

[00:34:19] us off at isn't that great right that's always been a conversation of new generation hotels

[00:34:25] and so that's really the intent behind his words around well were you involved or how much involved

[00:34:32] were you or could you have done more is this the place that you worked hard for or fought hard for

[00:34:37] or your people around you fought hard for is this where you was supposed to be or where we want to

[00:34:41] be at that's where his inquisitive nature is coming from um and so that's the part for sure i

[00:34:47] would agree that resonates with me uh not that me being a hotel but because i've heard the same

[00:34:53] shin from other yeah um that's gonna be hui throughout of course like i said he is the

[00:35:00] he's not like i don't want to i don't want to say the straight character like he's just like he sees

[00:35:04] all the bs but because he does in his own way really feed into some of those things for instance

[00:35:10] in this episode uh the family is invited to a dinner party by ed once lure uh ed once their

[00:35:17] senior so he is the richest man in woodcrest his family started this neighborhood and he

[00:35:21] has made it his his goal in life to make sure that this family that he has this woodcrest neighborhood

[00:35:28] that he is selective over who gets to join the family conversations and so now granddad has to

[00:35:34] appease ed once their so that they can fit in and hui is going to stop at nothing to ruin all of that

[00:35:40] so although he's he's not riley marry he's still bad as hell hui needs his ass whipped yeah

[00:35:47] like through this whole through this whole meeting where ed once is is meeting with granddad

[00:35:54] hui is lining up a shot with like uh he has a sniper scope uh trying to take once they're out

[00:36:02] it's so funny it's definitely shades of like uh and really made me think i was like the

[00:36:08] buddha first of their family guide i'm pretty sure like uh i want to say around time yeah um

[00:36:14] but it was just funny it was just it was just a very very funny bit i also like uh when grand

[00:36:20] granddad was like you want some cheese i would love some white people white people love cheese

[00:36:28] the new white man is distinguished you know he likes cheese and riley says we got craft

[00:36:34] and we got velvita you know i couldn't believe that oh my god do you recognize the voice of ed

[00:36:44] once the senior i actually don't recognize the voice of ed once the who is ed once the senior

[00:36:50] please tell me so ed once is going to be played by the lake ed asner i believe if i'm not mistaken

[00:36:57] he passed away years ago but when i tell you ed once the senior is one of my favorite

[00:37:02] characters on the boondocks it's not even close um i need to i need to just pull up a list of all

[00:37:09] his quotes because this man is he's absurdly racist in a way that the woman from everybody

[00:37:16] hates chris is as well you know like the actor the the teacher where it's so racist that

[00:37:22] it's almost like if they're not being racist that then something's wrong

[00:37:26] like wait on the punchline because ty this man whenever if you if you pay a really close attention

[00:37:34] he calls granddad free man and he puts that space in between free man so almost has to remind you

[00:37:43] is like and that's a slave man you know i never yeah it's a conversation i've actually had before

[00:37:51] it's like would you prefer blatant racism or would you prefer like the secret

[00:37:57] there's a like the underhanded you know racism and i honestly would prefer the blatant racism

[00:38:03] like i want to know what's in front of me i like the enemy that i can see versus the enemy that i can't

[00:38:07] and i can appreciate you having him as a favorite character to be honest the teacher on everybody

[00:38:13] loves i mean everybody hates chris is probably one of my top characters on this show too insane

[00:38:18] yeah that lady's insane uh but yeah ed asner most people probably remember him from like the

[00:38:23] mary tyler moore show but i think of him as the old man from up you know like that's i always i can't

[00:38:29] unsee it and so seeing him back as ed once the senior here talking to granddad and hui and riley

[00:38:36] i'm like yeah we're back i'd be lying if i said i only watched two episodes i just kept on watch

[00:38:41] i just hit next because it's so good um but they're invited to ed once there's dinner party

[00:38:46] they will be the only black people there with the exception of the guy at the front gate uh

[00:38:52] uncle ruckus no relation marie no relation uh and he was the valet right like he wasn't even security

[00:39:00] wouldn't he was just there with his tiny coat on yes the the introduction of uncle ruckus and

[00:39:10] it's just so funny because you kind of forget that he's not like literally related to them

[00:39:14] just because we call him a correct us all the time but this is him meeting the freeman's for the

[00:39:19] first time and him basically being like you niggas can't come in here like that character is so ridiculous

[00:39:28] and again this is where you know where the the satire is this is this is the character that um

[00:39:35] that everybody knows but it's like to the the hundredth degree everybody know everybody has

[00:39:43] that relative or that cousin or that person they know who love to kiss the feet of the white man

[00:39:51] but he's just so blatant with it it's just hilarious like how over the top he is with it

[00:39:59] mm-hmm um yeah i know i know you don't recognize his voice do you ty i don't man i felt like i

[00:40:07] recognized it when i first heard it but i don't think so oh yeah this is a hard one this is gary

[00:40:11] anthony william people will know him as of the flight attendant on uh soul plane but also he's from

[00:40:17] alchem in the middle gary anthony williams is as far as i'm concerned yeah a voice actor but

[00:40:24] also i see this man he's black royalty you know he's been in so many so many shows as that

[00:40:29] that guy right and so to see him do this voice actor is uncle ruckus i was like this is him this is

[00:40:35] this is him uh but he does such a good job um him introducing them well basically introducing

[00:40:43] himself as uncle ruckus asking them why like who let y'all niggas in the party and then telling

[00:40:48] us that once they don't even let him use the front door he called granddad mr. tips and i

[00:40:55] fell out my chair like i never heard him before um he called him sit he you they must thank you for

[00:41:00] i can't see me fucking poor yeah if your if your if your best hater is granddad i think i mean

[00:41:12] it's uh it's uncle ruckus i think you're doing something right but tyron you got a lot of uncle

[00:41:17] ruckus in this episode what do you think uh the song just just took me out and i wish i

[00:41:23] remember the verses to it but the song straight get ready she fell i know you got it but it all took

[00:41:30] me out we've seen versions like we actually we talked about life you know on a podcast before

[00:41:35] right and can remain a homeboy's name but it's always the one that's kissing the feet that's

[00:41:41] not as nice as boss and so he's that version of this obviously to an extremely exaggerated level

[00:41:47] and i think the song takes it to the to the next level and the fact that and this is this is the

[00:41:55] part about the satire that i love the crowd is not like up in a row or by and like oh my god

[00:42:03] saying niggas on the mic even whispering to each other hey just because they can say

[00:42:08] that means we can say niggas too you know that's what i love about it is because it lets it run its

[00:42:14] course if this was something that was real life you wouldn't be able to finish the second word of

[00:42:18] the song you know all three stanzas of this song and it's beautiful i loved it i want more of it

[00:42:28] yeah oh if you continue to watch uh the boondocks you will hit uncle ruckus's greatest hit at some

[00:42:33] point and you will get so used to this because this man is not this is the end of a main character

[00:42:37] in the cast um yeah and don't trust them new niggas over there is a bop and so uh yeah i know it by heart

[00:42:44] i'm not going to sing it here on the podcast but make no mistake um if you don't know go check it out

[00:42:49] it's it's ridiculous um but so they get to the dinner party and the whole time grandad's trying

[00:42:57] to impress ed once live because you know and also maybe find him a white woman with a flat booty

[00:43:03] to listen to his problems you know so he has goals uh hui's goal is to systematically tear the dinner

[00:43:10] party apart by telling white people truths about white people that they weren't they're not ready

[00:43:15] to prepare like or prepare to uh digest and then riley riley gonna go play with the guns

[00:43:22] and once there's grandson uh ed the third now marie yeah yeah marie ed once live the third

[00:43:34] yes uh another over-the-top exaggerated character that it's like like it was like looking into like

[00:43:44] the future of how you know hip hop has has this is what you see when you look out into like the hip

[00:43:51] hop crowds now um ed once live the third uh charlie murphy right uh yes the fact that the boondocks had

[00:44:03] black voice actors playing white characters i feel like i've never seen well creed summer i mean

[00:44:11] but like it was just so hilarious textbook rich boy like thinks he's a badass but just so

[00:44:21] done just so differently this was so funny and riley finding his counterpart this will not

[00:44:27] unfortunately this will not be the last time that they cross paths and they get into a whole

[00:44:33] bunch of trouble together it's a great it's it's a great character moment now i you know i

[00:44:39] don't i don't like once live the third because he's too too much but i love what he adds to the show

[00:44:46] you know he's not my favorite character yeah well it was the third riley and riley will link up and

[00:44:52] they will be a powerful team uh including their friend uh yeah their their their friend uh rummy

[00:45:00] as well um who is played by samuel l jackson also a white man who will be saying the n word a lot

[00:45:07] to the other oh so between the two of them and riley just imagine the type of language that's flying

[00:45:14] off the handle time i know you loved it i know you loved it uh the third yeah i love at the third

[00:45:19] this is malibu's most wanted like and and in the the weird dynamic of this one that i did not

[00:45:26] expect is him being in the military usually when you come across these rich kids with this long

[00:45:31] money history and they family they don't usually take the military route they just

[00:45:35] sap off the teeth of the father and end up running the business or whatever the case may be like he

[00:45:40] said he was like what he said he's going to become president president one day or whatever and he's

[00:45:45] still going to be a jack jackass or something like that right so that's usually the route that they

[00:45:49] take so the the at an element of the military i'm intrigued by i didn't like it at first i was like

[00:45:56] um i don't know if that necessarily fits what i'm used to but i am i am intrigued by how

[00:46:02] where that goes because obviously it led to a very iconic scene in this episode

[00:46:08] with the military weapons yeah well you know i think that's also a nod to you know the the rich

[00:46:14] people who will live if they have any politicians right because uh yeah ed and uh senior at the end

[00:46:21] of this all says and that that uh that guy is going to be the president of the united states

[00:46:26] and he's still a fucking idiot you know and uh the thing is you've seen presidents of the united

[00:46:31] states that are former military who i mean don't have like you know they're former military right

[00:46:37] and especially around 2000 2005 we were definitely having conversations about that as well right with

[00:46:43] the the president situation that we were in so it's very much a nod to you know sometimes

[00:46:50] these things just carry you through life and so uh that's happening while hui is um again trying to

[00:46:57] disrupt the party as much as possible so marie the government is lying to you about september 11th

[00:47:03] ronald reagan is the devil and jesus is black 663 yeah yeah big agree but listen he's saying all

[00:47:13] these things but he's just so well spoken marie they're not going to listen to him they don't

[00:47:17] know he's so good like the fact that all they could say is oh he he's so well spoken and and then

[00:47:24] them just clapping i loved how he was like they're rich they're so rich they don't care they just

[00:47:30] clap at anything because it doesn't matter because they will always survive i was like yep

[00:47:37] yeah they're like oh that's funny yo poor people problems is that they really not they're not really

[00:47:43] involved in any of that they're listening to everything he has to say and they're not even

[00:47:46] remotely disturbed and he's going out of his way to disturb them but he's not wrong these people

[00:47:52] do not care about that kind of stuff they don't care about anything because they're rich and they're

[00:47:56] white and all they're going to do is keep applauding so where we see uncle ruckus drunkenly

[00:48:01] fall off the stage perform and don't trust those new niggas just seconds before riley freeman

[00:48:07] shoots ed once with a third out of a window with a double barrel uh yeah they just keep clapping you

[00:48:15] know they don't care whatever you know hey it's a little good to me no worry we've had speaking of

[00:48:25] we've had black jesus on our television shows since og good times and the message still don't come

[00:48:32] across it still don't come across because regardless of whatever is going on in the world if you're rich

[00:48:38] you control whatever the narrative is and the narrative will continue to be top of the mind

[00:48:44] right so that situation do got blown out the window and the still clapping nobody cares it's the

[00:48:53] same thing someone probably still going on in the background we just don't hear it like it's

[00:48:57] that's just what the world we live in this is the perfection of satire this is this is what it was

[00:49:05] supposed to be you are getting the message across that you want to get is funny because you're trying

[00:49:12] to get that message across and it's just not happening at the same time you got all of this

[00:49:18] other shit that is going on in the background it kind of is like all right the message is not

[00:49:22] too strong to where i'm just like sitting here just thinking through like some sort of brainstorming

[00:49:26] session or i just want to think all the time i'm actually having fun while i'm doing this at the

[00:49:30] same time that's where this episode hits that's where the first is more more than anything that i

[00:49:37] could say about anything i've watched so far so that's that's the essence of it right there

[00:49:43] yeah yeah so um that's the episode for more i mean riley riley shoots uh

[00:49:48] ad out of the window everybody claps granddad apologizes it's no hard feelings from ed once

[00:49:54] lyric senior because guess what he rich too and he don't care and so at the end of the day

[00:50:00] riley and hui both realized that they don't want granddad to lose their house hui should not be

[00:50:04] disrupting the party trying to make the block hot for him and get him kicked out of here um they

[00:50:09] should be trying to let granddad be happy and just live amongst the white people as much as

[00:50:13] hui hates it you know and so that's episode one but episode two marry yeah our episode two

[00:50:22] hit the streets like crack okay in the in the 90s in the early 80s early 90s that episode two the

[00:50:30] r kelly trial listen this this was 2005 r kelly wasn't trying to send to jail until 2016 something

[00:50:42] like that well it was yeah because the first trial was not that time exactly so oh it was

[00:50:49] yeah it was prior to that for sure yeah but so it in the time between this episode of the boondocks

[00:50:54] and r kelly actually going to jail oh 10 years have passed so this conversation is happening

[00:51:01] way before the arguments are blatantly happening on social media where this is happening on

[00:51:06] television people are claiming r kelly's trying to buy cbs or whatever kind of bs they were

[00:51:11] trying to paint why is this black man being targeted people were having those conversations

[00:51:15] on a smaller scale prior to social media and the boondocks really took a look at that is that

[00:51:19] no less sensationalized this right now because it's coming and marry there are so many up like moments

[00:51:25] in that in that episode where it kind of because of recent events it's kind of teetering into that

[00:51:32] is this sad time or y'all just telling us what happened because some of it might have just

[00:51:38] been what happened marry well i mean if you look back at it and if you watch the surviving

[00:51:44] r kelly uh docu series which you really should if you haven't it it you know dropped in what 20s it was

[00:51:51] around like 2019 it dropped like right before the pandemic over there why do i keep trying to

[00:51:57] come up with years because it's gonna be wrong but anyway no no no that's actually my fault

[00:52:01] r kelly got sentenced in 2022 um and so his trial is right around that time so yes i said 2016 but

[00:52:08] i was actually off it's almost well because he dragged it out that the first trial got dragged out

[00:52:14] the first trial he was supposed to put he was going on trial in like 2002 but they dragged it out with

[00:52:21] like his tours and all of this that he didn't get acquitted until 2008 so technically the boondocks

[00:52:29] had had prophesized all of this for for first trial and then he couldn't get away with it

[00:52:35] the second time because it's been 10 years you know all that stuff but anyways the reason why

[00:52:43] a lot of people like the trial of r kelly myself included it is basically one of my favorite

[00:52:49] episodes of the boondocks definitely top three and i forgot that it was only the second episode

[00:52:54] of the whole entire series out the gate out the gate i was like you are coming it's because

[00:53:01] of the absurdity of it but also taking the mirror and really reflecting back because

[00:53:08] i remember and and they again the reason why i said go check out the docu series is they

[00:53:12] they they talk about it uh r kelly's biggest supporters during that trial were black women

[00:53:19] black women supported him throughout that trial he got so much support throughout that first

[00:53:25] trial that the acquittal was celebrated just like what happened on the boondocks and it's not until

[00:53:36] we've grown as a society of what we think we we have the introduction of this evidence through

[00:53:41] surviving r kelly that finally a reckoning came to him in 2022 but also the collective conscience

[00:53:50] of our thought process of how we treat him has changed now that's not saying that everybody hates

[00:53:56] our kelly i mean that's still a thing today like that's still a thing today it's like um i i judge you

[00:54:03] heavy if you if you listen to him so it's like but it still isn't like back then where everybody

[00:54:09] i remember everybody's still supporting him and i remember i just remember all of this i like if

[00:54:15] you go and watch the docu series you remember people blaming the girl you remember people

[00:54:21] blaming everybody about r kelly like it was such a thing and the boondocks capturing the absurdity

[00:54:30] of us giving our support to somebody who's so clearly in the wrong in this episode by doing

[00:54:37] it in a way that was funny that was exaggerative and then at the end gave you your lashes for it

[00:54:44] was like pure perfection to me especially satirical perfection i think yeah well well ty you said you

[00:54:52] didn't love the second episode so tell me what it was about it that didn't speak to you it's hard

[00:54:57] for me to capture the essence of 2005 in 2024 it's hard um you you mentioned it right he just

[00:55:07] got indicted or in 2022 so for me like when i'm when i'm looking at the episode i'm like oh it's over

[00:55:17] right i do recall these things and mar you mentioned something earlier where there's still

[00:55:22] some people out there that listen to our kelly and this is this is why it didn't hit for me

[00:55:29] is because in 2005 now that i'm understanding that this is when it came out in 2005

[00:55:36] you could say you're still listening to our kelly proud now you can't necessarily do that

[00:55:43] so all of the stuff that happens within the trial on the episode it that's why it doesn't hit home

[00:55:50] i get it though like i understand it the way marie explained it beautifully you know and and how it

[00:55:56] is perfection um and expressive of what was happening in 2005 and also having a little

[00:56:01] foresight a lot of simpsons but yeah but that's why i just couldn't i just it just didn't capture

[00:56:08] my attention because i'm like okay been there done that i've heard all the jokes i've seen all the

[00:56:14] trials i've seen survived kelly i've i've been on the i've been in arguments of should i listen

[00:56:20] to our kelly or not i've completely shut down our kelly from everything that i've listened to for

[00:56:25] like a decade at this point you know yeah don't miss them that's the only reason that it just didn't

[00:56:31] hit home for me i understand why i sing your top three though well let's talk about why it's in mind

[00:56:36] okay because let me tell you something this is some quality comedy so the plot of this one is

[00:56:43] that um our kelly's trial is coming to town wise in woodcrest who knows but it is uh

[00:56:49] district attorney thomas do why we'll be uh we'll be trying this this is tom this is their

[00:56:53] next door neighbor from across the street basically he lives next door with his uh well

[00:56:57] across the street with his uh white wife sarah then that matters trust me and his uh mixed child

[00:57:03] jasmine uh they all live together as a happy duois family but um he does not know as marie

[00:57:09] called it the niggatry that's about to come knocking on his door because um our kelly is

[00:57:14] being tried for uh urinating on an underage girl and um everybody is not okay with it some

[00:57:21] people or i have huge issues with it uh marie however granddad does not have an issue with

[00:57:26] golden showers he's a big fan yeah i love golden i like gold i like shower that sounds nice to me

[00:57:36] yeah um and riley is one of the big fans of our kelly so throughout this we will see riley as

[00:57:44] the avatar for all the people who think that our kelly should not be locked up is to me this is

[00:57:50] very clever in a very similar way that like the baby was selling drugs and uh and black again i thought

[00:57:57] like oh after a while i was like oh well obviously he's a baby but he's selling drugs but he's very

[00:58:01] very poor look at his family situation right like there's talking cockroaches here let the baby

[00:58:05] make a little money on the side i ain't tripping but at first glance that was probably bad if you

[00:58:09] show a trailer of just riley stumping for our kelly you probably not going to isolate a lot of

[00:58:14] your viewers all your viewers but a lot of them probably not gonna watch it not not in 2024

[00:58:19] for for sure but this is 2005 so we get riley uh he makes his free r kelly sign he's walking he's

[00:58:28] picketing and him and tom dubois have an interesting conversation because tom feels like hey we're

[00:58:33] doing the right thing this is the law that's an underage child riley says to tom dubois oh so

[00:58:40] you mean to tell me i can pee in a toilet and it's okay but if i pee on a person it's like

[00:58:46] not okay and tom says absolutely he's okay okay okay hear me out so if being too hui or in the bathroom

[00:58:53] together and i get some pee on hui is that not okay hui like why would i be in the bathroom with you

[00:59:00] he's like shut up all right listen what if we when i was littler i used to have accidents what if

[00:59:05] he was in the bed and i went to bed it's so at this yeah yeah he still has accidents right but

[00:59:11] tom dubois is like yeah riley you can't just pee on kids it's so riley says well what about personal

[00:59:17] responsibility she saw piss coming she stayed i see piss coming i move why should i have to miss out on the next

[00:59:27] r kelly album just for that um he got eight up by eight year old y'all debbie on this on the

[00:59:33] street corner i knew it was gonna but i knew at that point this wasn't gonna end well for him in the

[00:59:37] trial mart yeah this this is this is the breakout episode for riley this is where you now understand

[00:59:46] where riley right well riley's spot in the satire is he is the degenerate of the family right

[00:59:53] he is the one who says the views that you should not agree with but people who are ignorant and who

[01:00:01] don't understand agree with riley and they think they're cool ones you know it it reminds me so much

[01:00:08] of cartman and south park like i said i'm a big south park fan and how south park and cartman was

[01:00:16] always originally supposed to be the satirical villain and you should if you are ever on the

[01:00:23] same side as carmen you are not in the right you know what i'm saying and and that's kind

[01:00:30] of the space that riley occupies for the boondocks and it's supposed to be exaggerated it's supposed to

[01:00:39] be over the top and people are supposed to get that that is not what you should really want to

[01:00:47] ascribe to but as the show goes on as times change as satire gets lost among generations

[01:00:56] people start to connect to those characters more and more and that's the really scary thing about satire

[01:01:03] is when the meaning gets lost in it and it starts to become earnest and it's for like hurtful thought

[01:01:15] processes that's when it's like we all got to take a step step back and that's what that's kind

[01:01:21] of the flip of the coin that we are seeing now even though we are seeing people who can now look at

[01:01:27] the r kelly trial and be like oh this wasn't good we are still also getting the flip of the coin

[01:01:31] where the people are like no i still want to i'm still going to support all black people no matter

[01:01:36] if they are sex trafficking people sexual abuse you know we are going through that like

[01:01:43] right this very second so it's that that's why i this is one of my favorite episodes

[01:01:49] that's why riley is a character that's necessary um and that's why this is a perfect episode too because

[01:01:59] now we have the full picture of the main characters between granddad hui and riley and that's why

[01:02:07] this is such a stronger statement than a good times black again or magical negroes because

[01:02:13] it's like not only is the satire clear not only do we know where all the characters stand within this

[01:02:21] drama but this this funny comedy this tale of tragedy tragedy it's like we also are

[01:02:29] laughing our asses off because why are we why are we dancing in the courtroom

[01:02:34] yeah social security on it on the on the video we got so much to talk about look the satire

[01:02:42] is so loud that there are people who watch this and that like they're no disrespect but if you

[01:02:47] like like marcia if you listen to riley you see riley's making sense you're probably on the wrong

[01:02:51] side of what the message is message is loud too by the end of this episode hui is literally

[01:02:56] shouting at the entire courtroom that this is not okay so is doing this riley the eight-year-old

[01:03:04] is pushing this narrative by the end what a 10 year old is the one who's like telling him this

[01:03:09] hey bro this is not okay you you also have uh tom du bois who was there as a district attorney saying

[01:03:15] this is not okay but the satire is very loud i think the message has to be equally loud and i

[01:03:21] think that might be something else that i've probably lost a little bit in good times black again

[01:03:26] um but this this trial this trial is absurd from the very opening statements uh this white uh

[01:03:33] lawyer who his entire platform is uh are we not really let this so-called mountain of evidence

[01:03:43] distracted from what this really is racism drop it i love it so much time how could you not like this

[01:03:55] it's okay tell us it's not like it's too real i've seen this already i've seen this episode

[01:04:00] honestly the the i think uh we talked about roddy's character i think it was very intelligently

[01:04:07] done is because you know that child that has that ignorance and intelligence all in one

[01:04:14] bad bag of speech for some reason and they put you in a position where he's like i can't combat

[01:04:21] that like it's stupid but i have no comeback for that that's the situation with the lawyer

[01:04:30] it's stupid as hell for you to say that but when you drop racism what the f*** am i gonna say

[01:04:36] right you kind of like well i mean deep down it might it might be racism you know like don't get

[01:04:41] me wrong there are other things but i'm not counting racism out that easily um you know he also

[01:04:48] makes sure that he tells i guess in one of the statements uh with the with the jury he's just

[01:04:52] like man uh no this is actually when he's cross examining the young lady so in this uh trial we see

[01:05:00] r kelly present with his uh pied piper of r&b mask on just in case you didn't know it's r kelly as if

[01:05:05] he wore the mask to the trial uh the entire time they have flutes in the background like that

[01:05:11] that like uh stepping the name of love like pan flute in the background uh so you know it

[01:05:16] r kelly as well um but we end up with the little girl on the stand and um i believe the little lawyer

[01:05:23] says and would you consider yourself an african-american woman and she says nigga is you blind you know

[01:05:32] and he makes that point just to then look at the crowd and say well r kelly is clearly attracted

[01:05:39] to his strong black women but unlike the you know the uh prosecutor mr du bois who's married to a white

[01:05:48] woman and then you see him just lose the jury completely they're like we're done we're done

[01:05:54] he's out is a wrap um i'm sorry marry i just love this episode so much it's so quotable too

[01:06:01] it's so quotable i feel like i know all i feel like i know like all of the major lines

[01:06:07] and again it's just so prescient you know and and to really i did not realize like that this premiered

[01:06:17] before the actual the trial of his first acquittal and it's just like his lawyers must have watched

[01:06:24] this episode and that was their defense yeah that was their defense she was like

[01:06:30] when she's like you know i could have moved out the way i didn't if i didn't want to get feet on

[01:06:35] i wouldn't moved they're like and riley in the background said i told you r k on his damn butt cheeks

[01:06:46] yes this is robber kelly oh my social yeah and then and then he's like this man has an

[01:06:54] nta cp image award and somebody's like i got one of those too like it's just so it's just so absurd

[01:07:06] and i mean like i don't know i it's really hard for me to describe like why this is one of my my favorite

[01:07:13] episodes especially when like the downfall because like full disclosure my mom me and my mom are

[01:07:21] we're like the biggest r kelly fans growing up like truly like she was a huge huge r kelly fan

[01:07:31] and it would be michael jackson number one r kelly number two like in our car in our car on rotation

[01:07:37] and i remember this trial happening i remember like just feet people feeding into the like

[01:07:44] oh they know they knew what she was doing oh this is money oh she's not even pressing charges

[01:07:49] oh the aunt is crazy like i remember all of those those type of things and just being like okay well

[01:07:56] we're still listening you know i'm saying and it wasn't until i saw surviving r kelly it wasn't

[01:08:02] until the later accusations it wasn't until like you're like old enough to die to really digest

[01:08:08] what it what's going on that i'm like wow i i have literally not listened to that that dude

[01:08:14] since you know i'm saying as someone who was it was such a big part of my life but i just think that

[01:08:22] the fact that you could take you could take something so like sad because i think the

[01:08:29] reed also did a really good job of explaining why people it's hard for people to let go of our

[01:08:33] kelly and to accept accept the things that he did because a lot of his songs are you were used

[01:08:39] to like highlight people's best moments in their lives and stuff like that um but but to take that

[01:08:46] something that's like that almost like tragic but making it so incredibly funny while also again

[01:08:53] just putting out like why didn't we care like the documentary said the same thing like why did

[01:08:58] why did it take so long for people to care about what our kelly was doing to young black girls

[01:09:04] you know i'm saying and it really really really takes a mirror to like us as a people sorry i'm like

[01:09:11] like going on and on about it but it's just it's just it was just like a cultural it's such a

[01:09:17] cultural touch point like within our community you know and honestly to that point i don't think

[01:09:22] the episode is as satirical or as absurd because out of the the reasoning for him to be not guilty

[01:09:34] were things that people were saying yeah it was just the the outlandish stuff like the flute and

[01:09:40] stuff that was the mask as that was the satirical part of it but um even even the video is the

[01:09:48] video evidence and all that that came up yeah it was like no no no it's too blurry and blah blah

[01:09:54] like but still like it was that nigga it was oh five yeah everything was blurry no five we didn't know

[01:10:01] what we didn't know what focus was back then okay we didn't know what focus was back then um you

[01:10:06] but you're right you're right access to child pornography back in the day right first of all

[01:10:11] first of all there was a whole bunch of grown folks talking about they seen on our kelly

[01:10:14] trape why would you watch that you know we were children so we get the wheat look we bow out of this

[01:10:17] one why would y'all watch that if y'all tell if someone was telling y'all our kelly was pissing

[01:10:21] on a kid you know i'm saying like why why didn't you opt out you should just take somebody work for it

[01:10:25] be like it would be emailed around like right and the attachment to it like yeah somebody uh i

[01:10:33] remember uh it was an episode of chappelle show and he was just in a in a court and somebody

[01:10:38] asked him a question about michael jackson he said he made thriller thriller right that's

[01:10:43] that's pretty much what did he have to do yeah like do we have to address this or do i just need

[01:10:48] to drop all his accolades you know they did talk about our kelly's in uh it's his image award

[01:10:55] of and so yeah they they do get into that but the episode really comes to a head when it's clear

[01:11:01] that nothing that anybody can say is going to uh like get these people to vote like to vote

[01:11:07] against our kelly to to rule against them um mr. dube why is like me completely pleading with the

[01:11:15] crowd people you saw the tape the girl testified she was under age you're not allowed to do that to

[01:11:20] the little girl we have a tape and the one woman juror says go tell that to your white bitch and

[01:11:26] it was like well sorry mr. dube why sorry tom um and so things get out of control it uh you know

[01:11:35] our kelly then jumped up on the up on the desk they're listening to the music people were dancing

[01:11:40] even the judges into it he we has to stop the music and this is why i say the the the you know

[01:11:47] the message gets really loud because he stops the music and he says what the hell is wrong

[01:11:51] with you people every famous nigga that gets arrested is not nelson mandela yes the government

[01:11:56] conspires to put a lot of innocent black men in jail for fallacious charges but our kelly is not

[01:12:01] one of those men we all know the nigga can see but what happened to standards what happened to bare

[01:12:07] minimal you a fan of our kelly you want to help our kelly to get our kelly some counseling

[01:12:13] introducing some older women hide his camcorder but don't pretend like the man is a hero and stop

[01:12:19] the damn dancing act like you got some god damn sick people how to play with y'all he was done

[01:12:25] mar this is my favorite hui moment my favorite hui moment because somebody had to sing it yeah and i

[01:12:31] think just like you said like if the satire is loud the message has to be louder and they do such a

[01:12:37] good job of and this is not the last time they do this you know so it was it was so good and such

[01:12:45] a great way to close off the episode and since because hui gets the message across and people

[01:12:50] like okay and scoop you know hey you with the afro cut it out turn the music back on

[01:12:59] hey y'all know i've been booing people on podcast for four years now i would that's directly from the

[01:13:04] voodoo guys i cannot take credit for that boo boo this is boy boo oh my god it's again a message we

[01:13:14] get to the message and it's clear it's it's painless you don't have to wonder like what they're

[01:13:22] trying to say to us you don't have to think like like i keep coming back to this uh i watched a few

[01:13:27] more episodes of the times like again and the period episode that like all the or even the

[01:13:34] episode about the like the adorab like yeah all the dreams and the artistic scenario i appreciate

[01:13:41] the artistic value of that but also i don't i don't fucking get it i don't get it already

[01:13:50] i need somebody to clearly explain it to me and let me know what the hell is going on here

[01:13:56] and i think they did the job with that one at the end of this one yeah the other storyline in

[01:14:01] this episode it's the b story grandad's hanging out with uncle ruckus and so if you didn't

[01:14:05] already know who uncle ruckus was from episode one they really let you know that uh who uncle

[01:14:10] ruckus is this time because uncle ruckus is a self-hating black man he does not believe that

[01:14:15] he's black he actually thinks that he's white and he's got ribidoligo the opposite thing about

[01:14:19] michael jackson got you know uh i just get his head darker and black and darker you know um

[01:14:28] and he's sitting here spending his entire time with uh with robert freeman really talking about

[01:14:34] why the white man is superior you know um he talks about coby brian he talks about um you know

[01:14:42] the opposite between art well the difference between r kelly and jerry lane luis the king of rock and

[01:14:48] roll you know um we even see a flashback of uncle ruckus the time he sat on a jury and uh you know

[01:14:55] i believe his uh he was there was a blind man being tried for murder marry is that what was

[01:15:00] happening a blind man being tried for shooting like three white women from 50 yards away with a rifle by

[01:15:08] the way across a football field with a rifle uh blind that did it hang that that that guy is guilty

[01:15:19] yeah i got a rope right here you know

[01:15:26] yeah so throughout granddad's talking to uncle ruckus and he's trying to get uncle ruckus to

[01:15:31] understand like hey bro white people ain't did all that stuff for you like stop it they weren't

[01:15:35] they didn't do all this to to help you you're you're a victim you're a victim you know you

[01:15:41] really so he's really trying to get him to understand that by the granddad's about done

[01:15:45] but uncle ruckus knows where home is and he's kind of like okay all right well i said what i said but

[01:15:50] also you know um let's make up i think he said uh turn the other cheek and uh and let me and let

[01:15:56] me hang out which is a war something like that um so uncle ruckus is an interesting character throughout

[01:16:02] um what was it hold on did it was it yeah oh yeah i think they were playing checkers right or

[01:16:08] or chess or yeah checkers and granddad granddad beats him and by the end uncle ruckus is like

[01:16:13] hey where you going you can't leave me behind and that's what we get hui's closing monologue about

[01:16:18] you know how you try to help black folk but sometimes they just don't want to be helped

[01:16:23] and that's okay you do what you can and you know i guess you're supposed to love black people

[01:16:29] regardless of what happens like these are our people we're supposed to love them you can

[01:16:32] hold them accountable but you still have to have a general love in your heart for black people

[01:16:37] and i think the last words hui says is you can't blame this one on the white man the r kelly

[01:16:41] situation and then he pauses and says or maybe you can and that's the end of the episode and i don't

[01:16:48] know for me it just it that episode hits all the points that i needed to hit right like there's

[01:16:53] there's no change made like hui said i battled with ignorance today and ignorance won he points out

[01:17:00] that i lost that fight you know um but you keep fighting hui doesn't stop being a protester

[01:17:07] does not stop being a young freedom fighter uh he just keeps doing he keeps moving on you know

[01:17:12] granddad doesn't leave uncle ruckus behind he deals with uncle ruckus and he tries to uplift uncle ruckus

[01:17:17] and um these black folks were not ready to let go r kelly at the time hopefully a lot of them

[01:17:21] have changed their opinions marry but we know that a lot of them have not you know like you

[01:17:25] said we have relatives that are i still listen to our kelly and i'm not still with you with it

[01:17:29] you know um i literally told the the dj at my wedding not to play r kelly

[01:17:35] 2016 i haven't yeah i told them not to play r kelly and not to play happy by ferrell because at

[01:17:40] that point it was just too okay listen that's just simple and it was too much

[01:17:47] i should have been in that video every time i hear happy i'm like where was i well i would not

[01:17:51] where was i when they got to film in that one but yeah so that that's our two episodes of the boondocks

[01:17:56] uh i think the r kelly trial episode it really does encapsulate a lot of what the boondocks

[01:18:01] is it's just like here's the mirror here here's the mirror for black people to look at each other

[01:18:06] and i think that honestly it does a good job of shining the light on white people as well in

[01:18:10] a way that doesn't make it feel like the black people are the the butt of the joke um i think

[01:18:16] in good times it feels like dang we laughing at these people's poverty almost right whereas in um

[01:18:22] in the boondocks the first episode raleigh is describing white people as white people they

[01:18:27] say the whole word like this and white people take time out to study and white people arrest you

[01:18:36] you know and it's like oh okay you know it's like uh we're laughing at these very true things about

[01:18:42] white people even though they're bigger statements to be made but we're not laughing at the expense

[01:18:46] of black people right and so there are definitely moments that lean into that in the boondocks

[01:18:50] but a lot of times you do have hui as the the character who was trying to remind you that

[01:18:56] yeah this is ignorant and it's funny but also this is satire this is real life and a lot of this

[01:19:00] stuff is really happening today you need to open your eyes and look around and make sure you're not

[01:19:04] a part of the problem because many people are watching the boondocks tie and they don't realize

[01:19:08] the satire they think they're they're all riley all the riles think that the boondocks is here

[01:19:12] for their entertainment and not to learn anything about it yeah and that brings the question

[01:19:16] to me and something that i've kind of learned as we talked about these uh satirical uh shows and

[01:19:23] movies and such is that and i don't have the solution for and and that kind of aligns with

[01:19:29] what we've been talking about with boondocks it doesn't bring us a solution neither does good times

[01:19:34] are there limits to what we can be satirical about is that the issue you know i mean like

[01:19:41] should there be things that we just can't be like is poverty one of those things that is

[01:19:45] hard to be satirical about in the way that good times does it or was there something else

[01:19:51] in there that just didn't hit the mark um you know because i granted both of these shows as you

[01:19:57] mentioned you know had disdain for them but it sounds like they had disdain for them for maybe even

[01:20:02] different reasons you know uh you know so so maybe that's the issue maybe that's the concern maybe

[01:20:09] that's the thing that didn't come across like like the creators of good times black again was

[01:20:13] expecting it to come across maybe i need to watch more so or maybe i need to change my mind set

[01:20:18] about things i don't know that's what i come came to the conclusion of as we talked about this stuff

[01:20:22] is just you know i need to just investigate uh what can we be be satirical about or what am i open

[01:20:29] to people being satirical about personally that's that's and also i got to watch boondocks with a

[01:20:34] 2005 mind not a 2024 i think honestly i think it still hits uh with the 2024 mind i ain't gonna

[01:20:40] lie to you because i had some good laughs this time too but uh to your point those we talked

[01:20:45] about a little bit earlier people did have some issues with some of the stuff that the boondocks

[01:20:49] are talking about at some point the boondocks will parody Martin Luther king and um to the point

[01:20:54] where our uh well reverend al sharpton literally demanded that cartoon network issue an apology

[01:21:01] for airing an episode about Martin Luther king so there are some things that people think are just

[01:21:06] too precious um they didn't they then made fun of reverend al sharpton uh quite a little

[01:21:11] quite a lot on uh on the boondocks uh in several different ways but yeah there were definitely

[01:21:18] points to where people said this is too much why is this child cursing like this why are you

[01:21:21] talking why are you laughing at uh at Martin Luther king why are you making light of the civil

[01:21:26] the civil rights movement um you know they they i believe they go to kidnap oprah at one point

[01:21:32] and actually get Maya Angelou you know like there are definitely moments where where people

[01:21:37] are just like wait a minute this is you can't do that but we do it anyway and the boondocks

[01:21:42] is one of those cartoons that is still at the test of time as far as like people's reverence for it

[01:21:46] i wonder if a show like good times black again can ever get to that point in 2024 marie i want to

[01:21:53] yeah i want to keep watching and i got to see uh was it was it gang delicious or was it

[01:21:58] thug nificent that's like out of like a gay rapper i want to see how they uh that would be

[01:22:02] gang's delicious yeah so uh yes so things to come gang delicious yeah the story of gang

[01:22:08] delicious he will be uh outed as a as a homosexual rapper and that will send shockwaves to the

[01:22:14] community but starting right at granddad's home with riley freeman uh we also have guest

[01:22:18] hoes coming to dinner as granddad starts waiting on a woman of the night uh

[01:22:24] uh

[01:22:27] yeah the third episode yes the third episode yeah so there's a lot to come marie

[01:22:34] yeah does she run really really fast in our heels you know uh game recognize good game granddad

[01:22:42] and right now you look a real unfamiliar yo granddaddy knows the game

[01:22:47] um game yes it like the boondocks the power of the boondocks um when it's in retrospect

[01:23:00] is might be way more powerful than when it was out you know because again yeah there you go like

[01:23:08] because we weren't maybe we weren't ready maybe it was ahead of its time but also i would

[01:23:14] like to say like taj's like well what can we be satirical about unfortunately i i don't know if

[01:23:19] it's gonna come off very pessimistic or very like snobby or something like that but i think the

[01:23:24] overall comprehension like from is it's down i feel like comprehension itself is down among

[01:23:33] the people all of the people the american people so satire is very hard to pull off nowadays because

[01:23:41] you know we have there's so many different methods and and and uh ways to entertain ourselves

[01:23:48] there's so much information being available to us that it's hard to separate the information that

[01:23:55] is earnest and satirical um especially when we're not being taught how to see that how to

[01:24:04] properly identify information that's coming at us i mean we're seeing that with the tiktok

[01:24:08] band the excuse of the tiktok band right now it's like um so that that's why i think satire is a little

[01:24:15] bit harder to do it now because people can't comprehend satire the way that we used to also

[01:24:22] the world is fucking nuts right now so what can we be satirical about because the most outlandish

[01:24:28] thing is actually happening right yeah yeah oh yeah there's so much out there to be satirical about

[01:24:35] but i honestly i pushed back a little bit marie i read an article recently that was talking about how

[01:24:41] the gen z years in the younger generation um is not that they're not knowledgeable about you know

[01:24:47] some of the satire is that they're over it they're a little stuffy we didn't raise we didn't raise some

[01:24:52] shrewd kids they like to they like to they like to know what they know they look forward on tiktok

[01:24:57] they do the deep dives into all these things and they have deep wells of knowledge about

[01:25:01] this stuff and they have little patience for things that could be problematic you know

[01:25:04] the tiktokers are gonna cancel you before anybody else does ironically enough they're the ones getting

[01:25:09] canceled um but um but yeah they're not gonna stand for that i think we were talking about sex in the

[01:25:14] city or nothing but netflix and it was like oh yeah like people don't go up for um for some like some

[01:25:21] of the characters because they're like no it's carry uh with mr big in his yeah well they're all

[01:25:29] right yeah i think i think the idea was that they're all charlots like gen z is the charlotte generation

[01:25:37] yeah like i've only seen the two episodes but i kind of i understand what they're saying you know

[01:25:41] like they're just kind of they're kind of stuffy and so you know you can't throw talking roaches

[01:25:47] and cartoon characters at this particular time period and think that people gonna latch on to it

[01:25:52] immediately um because like they they need that message to be loud they need to know that

[01:25:58] they're watching something that's not cancelable they're looking they're looking to they're looking to

[01:26:01] to write the manager right now like i'm so freaking pissed you know like they're looking for that moment

[01:26:06] immediately and i think that the boop like the boondocks is one of those shows where you get

[01:26:11] it it just hits you over the head with the satire i think that american uh magical niggurists

[01:26:17] you know i think that and um and uh i think good times black again i think it might be a little

[01:26:24] it does not hit that the message loud enough on either of those to make this generation really

[01:26:29] stop down and appreciate it for what it is i just i just hate them i just hate when people like

[01:26:38] the boondocks couldn't come out now because everybody would get canceled it you just stated

[01:26:43] then like when it came out back then people were trying to cancel it so yeah like yeah the boondocks

[01:26:53] the boon it's tiptoed into such like such deep waters the boondocks has talked about tyler

[01:26:57] parry in a way like was like the first i heard about that yes yeah and that one got yanked

[01:27:03] the boondocks talked about bt that one got yanked from television as well um if you got the dvd

[01:27:10] and i think if you have hbo max it is available but there's definitely several episodes of boondocks

[01:27:15] that people thought these are not appropriate for television or the people that were about

[01:27:19] really put their foot down and say i'm not going to let you say these things about me uh and so

[01:27:23] a lot of that uh on the horizon if you are to continue watching the boondocks if you're

[01:27:28] listening to this and you haven't seen the boondocks this is your official endorsement go

[01:27:31] check it out but also maybe start looking at these satirical uh you know properties and

[01:27:37] satirical shows and things of that nature and start looking at them for what they are this is satire

[01:27:42] i'm going in it's not a serious take on these things but there's a serious message in there and i have

[01:27:46] to you know digest it and i think that if black again it was very upfront about how much satire

[01:27:53] was involved with it people would have kind of showed up and been expecting uh some of the

[01:27:58] clownery that they ended up getting because i think that it just doesn't hit the mark on the

[01:28:02] same way that the boondocks does after talking into with the two of you so that said ty what do

[01:28:08] you think about the boondocks i'm i'm watching it i'm i'm yes i'm definitely watching it like

[01:28:15] that that there's anything you could say that first episode and i know y'all love the second

[01:28:21] episode that first episode sets the tone like i was crying laughing the whole time so uh is

[01:28:29] that right there just got me interested i want to see the growth of the characters uh riley and who

[01:28:33] like i mentioned before i want to see how far uncle ruckus go does he change does he stay his ways

[01:28:39] you know these characters do not grow these are the character you got today is the character you

[01:28:43] always don't get either way i'm still intrigued uh and so i'm ready i'm ready to move forward

[01:28:52] with the boondocks i'm ready for marie uh whenever you get back from your well-deserved

[01:28:56] maternity leave uh for us to kind of rehash it rehash the four seasons or whatever we want to do

[01:29:01] with it yeah and and i might have a top five at that point you know i'm down for it and one last thing

[01:29:12] take take take black again away from the name of the damn show please

[01:29:19] good times colin black again black biggie biggie back biggie biggie

[01:29:25] thank you so much ty are you working on anything else where are the people find you uh on recap

[01:29:31] kickback.com so please uh go to recapkickback.com slash subscribe that's where you can find me

[01:29:36] amen and marie thank you again i mean marie this might be our last conversation for a while

[01:29:41] you want to drop some of our boondocks quotes on us real quick or are you about to go

[01:29:45] but uh gang's delicious my rhyme so vicious i eat niggas for breakfast delicious

[01:29:58] i used to have the other part of it down but yeah i i love the boondocks i can't wait to go back and

[01:30:05] watch more of it so yeah um and marie i guess while you're gone is there anything that you got

[01:30:12] coming out soon i mean what crime scene what you what's going on no just yeah just go over the crime

[01:30:18] scene the the last episode with me just dropped um my pregnancy brain right i can't tell you what we

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[01:30:49] and and keep us keep us going while while my maternity leave well i'm on maternity leave

[01:30:56] all right and as for me uh i love this show i'm sorry i could like i could legit do a daily

[01:31:02] a daily boondocks podcast if i wanted to by myself because it's just amazing it really is

[01:31:06] so much to come kumatay come food with bitch is coming soon uncles uh mr stink meaner is coming soon

[01:31:14] yeah uh bushiel brown will pop up raloe good love what do you say damn i think to myself damn

[01:31:21] what did he do to make them niggas so mad isn't it so mad that's the marie quote and i think to myself

[01:31:28] man what did he do to make them so mad yeah um yeah exactly so uh yeah check us out here recap

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[01:31:50] uh and all these other places tie is just your you got the church finger up yeah and just because

[01:31:55] we said niggas don't mean you can't say don't go yeah don't go it'd be like chappelle marie and

[01:32:00] tybie saying these words so we don't say these words we gave you the disclaimer we were talking about

[01:32:05] this show that they said it's okay if they said so it's okay if they say it yeah exactly they

[01:32:11] start capping yeah it's not clear if y'all say it's my word and y'all can't take it from me

[01:32:16] but anyway uh but check it out check it out and let us know again in the comments let us know if

[01:32:19] you want to hear more coverage of the boondocks it's a blast from the past but fun social

[01:32:24] issues that I just there and I think we got fun talking about it also uh recently I guessed it on

[01:32:29] the was it good though podcast talking about the nutty professor literally clownery over there

[01:32:34] we kept the same energy as the movie I stole that from them and so uh just know that uh

[01:32:40] clowned over there too some words over there that I said that you do not repeat

[01:32:44] because I can say it and y'all can't uh but if you can you can the ones who know

[01:32:48] no the ones who don't you know what don't don't find out in the hard way you know

[01:32:52] but check me out on the was it good though podcast I'll put that the link to their podcast

[01:32:56] in the show notes as well because they were so much fun to talk talk to and talk about

[01:33:02] they have an insecure panel coming up maria uh you know I try to keep you in mind if you're

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[01:33:59] to y'all next week peace