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[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back again to Recap Kickback.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It's me, your host, Chappelle.

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_03]: We're back again to talk about another black movie,

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_03]: this time delving into the realm of black horror

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: and talking about the new hotness on Netflix,

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_03]: the number one movie on Netflix, The Deliverance, starring a bunch of black folk.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And so with me to talk about this,

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_03]: we do have to bring in a panel of a bunch of black folk as well.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: With me, as usual, my co-host, Mari. Mari, what's up?

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I am here. I can't wait to talk about this.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I never knew a black exorcist story was possible,

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: but here we are.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like look at it. Look at our people like expanding ourselves.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I love this. This was not an exorcism.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_03]: This was a deliverance. Deliverance.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Very different. Very different.

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: It's an exorcism.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_03]: That person from beyond the grave, y'all, is Tyrone.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Tyrone, welcome back.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: What's happening? I'm glad you called it out, Mari,

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: because I was like, have we ever had a black exorcism?

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so. There's a bunch of demons around here.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad they brought it to the table here. I'm proud. I'm proud.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. Yeah. I have a lot of thoughts about this,

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_03]: but I'm definitely happy to be here to talk about it with y'all too,

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: because from what I can tell through my dealings with y'all,

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_03]: y'all like some horror. And so this is probably a shock to no one.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_03]: This ain't my genre of movie and television.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm here to learn from.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I love horror. I hate this type of horror.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I hate demons. I hate exorcisms.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I hate them all. I hate anything.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're I don't like it.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But this was I was like, I had to bite the bullet and watch this one.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Because again, I never seen a black version of the exorcist.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And then finding out this like based on true events,

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_01]: like based on a real story, I was like, no.

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But I did like I did enjoy watching it.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I found enjoyment. We have a lot to talk about.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, a lot. OK, because like you said, this is a new realm for a lot of us.

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[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Mari, this week we were going to talk about parts three and four of this docu series

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_03]: that we talked about with Latonya Hollywood Black.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But we are pushing that back to talk about this movie, The Deliverance.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_03]: So how do we get here?

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, first off, we're giving our listeners more time to watch Hollywood Black.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's four parts. So the more time, the better.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's something that we definitely think you guys should watch.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And we will bring you coverage of episodes three and four.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But we we got here because of Creole Glenn Close, right?

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Creole is strong. That's a strong wish.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever Glenn Close was in this movie.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's definitely what brought us here.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because The Deliverance dropped on Friday, August 30th, just this past week.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And like it was funny because like almost immediately, but also like three days later,

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: all of a sudden, a clip of Glenn Close being possessed saying a very interesting quote.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll let Chappelle handle that.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You think I'm saying? Yes.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It started circulating on Twitter and social media to the point where everybody's like,

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I gotta go watch this. Like Lee Daniels is like, you know, right up there.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: He we we I would put him Tyler Perry adjace.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: We had this on our list to cover.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not like we weren't going to cover it, but I don't think we realized how like.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Like transcendent this was going to be and how how it had social media in a tizzy.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It is also the number one movie on Netflix. I think Chappelle already said that.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like we had to just do it right now while it's hot. Strike while the iron's hot.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Amazing. That clip brought us here. The clip brought us here.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But Tyrone, you posed the question on social media.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw it is Lee Daniels using clickbait to these movies.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I think so. I think he wanted to experiment a little bit because I don't know if we know,

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_02]: but Lee Daniels made the butler and this is far from it.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think he wanted to experiment a little bit.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And he knew that line, that little clip of Glenn Close, who the last time I saw Glenn Close,

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_02]: she was doing the butt at the Oscars or whatever.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. That statement, she knew he knew that people was going to go off on that statement.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So we we had to tune in. That's why it's number one.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_02]: How long is they there? I don't know. I think that's what we're going to kind of talk about.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, kind of the essence of the movie and how great it was or not great, depending on your stance.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But it is here at number one. And he deserves an applause for that marketing.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. Big agree. I think that he did what needed to be done.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we we we thought we called out Tyler Perry when he did it.

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And so we got to give the same type of smoke, you know, sometimes putting that one scene and letting it go viral is just enough to get everybody's attention on it.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Because you're right. This is not something I would have normally watched.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't watch like I watch it if everybody else is watching it.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: But as far as like going on my way to watch a horror movie, it's just not something that ever appeals to me.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. I'm not afraid of the horror movies or anything like that.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just they don't do nothing for me. I'm like, I know this ain't happening to me, so I'm not too scared of it.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, me and my Jesus are really tight, so I never worry about this stuff happening to me.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You ain't got to you ain't got to scare me into into praising God.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, Shandou. Yeah, listen, every time you got to say nothing to me because I'm going to be at church house on the Sunday.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, so don't worry about me. So in my mind, some Sundays I've been to church.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, I've been enough. I'm going to be like, what you doing here?

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm saying not walking to church house. God know me. He doesn't know me.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So that said, these things don't really appeal to me. I don't really get like the scary portion of them now.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_03]: When you tell me that somebody like Glenn Close is going to be commenting on somebody's, quote unquote, nappy pussy, I'm going to have to take I'm going to have to check in.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to have to check in because how did you get Glenn Close to do this?

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And so we need to start at the very beginning. This is Lee Daniels and this is his fault.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And I almost asked for him to be arrested, but I needed to watch the whole movie.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Maybe he should have been until we figure everything out.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think I needed to watch the whole movie before I decided like how foolish is this going to be?

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Am I. I'd say I'm pleasantly surprised it wasn't as foolish as I thought it could be.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. Like it was funny because they like took itself seriously, but also not too seriously.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, not seriously enough for me not to laugh at it. Like, yeah, I love scary movies.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I like scary movies that make you like scared. I'm scared.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I like scary movies with twists and turns. We got to figure out like who's a killer.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I do not like exorcism movies because it, you know, it feels like you are inviting stuff that you should not invite.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't watch too many. I've well, that's a lot. I've watched a lot of them, but I don't like them all.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't like watching them. Exactly. My husband likes them.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So like I like watching this, I was like, oh, God.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But I also am the type of person who loves a scary movie that you can yell at the screen at.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And this was one of those. I am that person.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I will yell at the screen and it will be the funnest thing to me again.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: This is how I almost lost my husband before we even got together because we went to the movies as friends and he didn't like that.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to the movie. Oh, you pulled a Brenda from Scary Movie.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Watch a Shaky Spirit love. Mm hmm. Girl, you got to get a little Shaky Spirit.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That's some scary shit. That's some scary shit.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Shoot. She said they both died at the end anyways.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a big mama's house. You know, that's me.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it. I did before.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But before before I was with him, I was a yelling at the screen type somebody.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And then what we could. Yes. Yes.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we got to get it once he said that's not really his bag.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I keep it. I keep it calm. I keep it in appropriate settings.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So at the house, at the house, these type of like black horror, you know, it's giving much like, you know, the ones like the perfect husband or all the all those ones were like Morris Chestnut or Michael Ealy or the bad guy somehow.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And like skin versus light skin, you know, real unions like running through the forest for some or making good or making.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love I love yelling at the screen for those type of stuff.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is so that's what got me through this. I was just like, I'm not taking any of this seriously.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to like laugh my way through it because it was some disturbing shit.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I hear I'm not going to lie. It was kind of disturbing to me.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Tyrone, you're the spooky guy here. OK, talk to us.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_03]: What did this did this speak to you as a horror film? Do you count this?

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't. So I'm a yeah, I'm a I'm a I'm a go with Mario real quick in that I hate exorcism movies, but I've seen them all because the only movie that I probably like scare shitless was like the exorcism of Emily Rose, because I didn't know what a contortionist at the time.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I didn't know what it was. I hated that.

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And I walked out. I was like, what is this?

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I hated that movie.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm not with it.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But this movie wasn't scary. It took 45 minutes to even get to a scary part in the first place.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_02]: But it was funny to me. The whole thing. I mean, there's some trauma in there, of course.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: But the whole thing was funny to me. It was it does not fit into horror.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I was texting my family about it and I was like, yo, you got to watch this.

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a good movie, but it's quotable.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's funny as hell. So I got quotes from this movie.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: The nappy pussy is definitely one of them. Right.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Even like even Monique's part of it. It was just like, oh, my God.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm serious. But everything she said was funny to me.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a talk to judge, but them kids are fucked up.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Was she was she improv-ing that shit? Because she was like, she said, you stop playing musical ass house and maybe I know what the boy is.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, who wrote this?

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It was so good. Everything that came out of her mouth. I was like, this is me.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I am Monique. Exactly.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: This situation. It was hilarious.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Them damn kids. Right. What is going on?

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, your son got bruised and you think it was from the playground?

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, what are we doing here?

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I thought it was funny. It does not fit into horror.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Look, I felt like it was a typical horror, like exorcism movie.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_03]: But like I said, there was a little black realism, I would call it.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, there were some moments where if you're presenting a film, you're like normally, you know, these characters say certain things in a certain way.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_03]: There were definitely moments where it didn't feel like Monique was acting.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It felt like they said, do your thing. You know what I'm saying?

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think I think I like that. That's probably a I like it.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of like that. I feel like if you're acting good enough, it should feel like it's natural.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And so there were definitely moments where especially Monique's character, I was like, I mean, she said what she said.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So we definitely want to talk about that.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Lee Daniels, of course, being the person who brought this to us, him and Monique have a history of working together.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But this is not the most absurd thing I've seen from Lee Daniels as far as like putting an older white lady in a role.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever seen the movie Shadowboxer? No.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't remember the plot of Shadowboxer at all.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_03]: The movie dropped in like 2005, I want to say.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And for some reason this came across my desk a long time ago.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'll spare you the gory details, except for the fact that Cuba Gooden Jr.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_03]: and Helen Mirren have a love scene and it is graphic.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And so based on that, I was not shocked by the things that Glenn Close was doing in this movie, especially flirting with.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Was this Omar Epps? Omar Epps, bruh? Where did he come from? The what?

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_01]: He pulled everybody's card. I was like, they owe him multiple favors.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, how did he get Glenn Close? How did he get Ingenue Ellis up in this piece?

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I was floored.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of Ingenue, that's what I came away with is what in the lovecraft country is this shit?

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Williams? Yeah.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_03]: At the peak of Stranger Things.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, obviously the peak of Stranger Things was back when Caleb was a child.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, now he's an adult.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_01]: This film, because as soon as I saw this, I was like, this is giving movie that got recorded years ago.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And sure enough, it was it was filmed in between June and August of 2022.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_03]: So not that far, but definitely far enough.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was kind of shocked to see that we got it because wasn't Lee Daniels and Monique kind of having like some.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It was beefing. Yeah.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And that was from Precious, right? That was from Precious. They was beefing.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: After Precious, yeah. And then she talked about it on her club, Shea Shea.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she did say that they they but she said they reconciled.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. But it was really interesting to see her here again.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And they do good things together.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie. Monique's character was it for me.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I loved it. I'm not. She was so funny.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_03]: We we cannot talk about this movie without talking about Glenn Close.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Tyrone, I'll start with you.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Glenn Close is a legendary actress.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Her pedigree is known by many, many, many people.

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_03]: She has done big roles. She has done small roles.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think I've ever seen her do a role like this.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_03]: What did you think of Glenn Close as the white grandmama to these black babies?

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_02]: In the hood, I. Before she got possessed.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_02]: The acting was pretty damn good. It was pretty good.

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I was I was shocked if I didn't I didn't know.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I knew that Glenn Close had it in her,

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: but I didn't know she had it in her in this capacity, like in this type of movie.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't I don't see this type of Glenn Close.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I see 101 Dalmatians, you know, so I was it was good.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought playing the role of the mama who was terrible,

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_02]: who found Jesus and she still got a little terrible in her.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought she played the role pretty well. The back and forth between her and the leading lady,

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought was pretty good. The jabs like it was.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. I think I think Lee did a good job getting her on, to be honest.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Why did she say yes? The question. That's a good question.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_03]: What does he have on Glenn Close? Probably the same thing he had on Helen Mirren.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Mario, what do you think? Well, I was I was wondering if it was like Netflix,

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: because like first off, Glenn Close has never won an Academy Award, which is triggering.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And to like somebody was like, she's just playing.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: She's just playing around now, because if you remember,

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: she was in the Hillbilly Elegy movie like two or three years ago.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: The one that J.D. Vance, that's based on J.D. Vance.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Vice President, his his memoir. And she played his like granny.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And she had this crazy makeup on and was talking like an Appalachian like hillbilly.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I never saw the movie, but the same thing that like that would be the white people's equivalent of this.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Like those her went viral and everybody was talking about that, that movie, Hillbilly Elegy.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_01]: All the white people were. So it's like she she's just doing whatever the fuck she wants to now.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think is going on. She's living life. I agree.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. She's 77. She's 77. And she's just doing whatever she wants, whatever she feels like.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And like, how great is that? She her makeup was sadly,

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: but greatly spot on for a white woman in the hood who wants to try like a certain type of black man.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Those skinny eyebrows took me. Absolutely. I was like, ah, but her wig was on point, though.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Her wig was on point. Her wigs.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we definitely got the wigs which halfway through as well.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Close. A legend. But like she has not reached Oscar status yet.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if this will be the thing to get her there, but I think it was a commendable, a commendable effort.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Ty brought up the fact that this is number one on Netflix and that is something that we should celebrate.

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_03]: But I know a lot about Netflix and the way their algorithm works.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes Netflix just be like, here, this is number one right now.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like with the amount of money that they put into this film, just based on the actors alone,

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_03]: you have to imagine that they had to either shut out a bunch of money or a lot of these people only Daniel's favorites because this cast is stacked.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm not shocked that it was number one. Andra Day is our lead. Glenn Close, as we've already pointed out, is her mother.

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Anjanue Ellis will show up eventually as our I mean, well, she's there throughout the film, but they don't let her talk until the very end.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But she'll show up eventually as the person doing our exorcism. And then, yeah.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Our apostle. And then Monique as the social worker.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It's good to see Monique on this side of the social work industry because I have not forgotten about Precious.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the way Mariah Carey was talking to Monique was wild. She's like, girl, you are horrible.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm taking your child, you know. And so Monique was giving that energy back here.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And to me, this movie talked. It was a lot more about the house structure that these people were living in and actually not really about the ghost.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_03]: To your point about this not really being a horror film. We we were really learning about like Glenn Close and the way she was a horrible parent, the way she's passed that down.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Her daughter's drinking, you know, the social workers coming over because there's obviously other problems prior to them moving into this haunted house.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought that was I mean, I understand it to an extent. I think that was the confusing part for me was like the back story of the her being a terrible mother.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't play too much of a part other than them needing to move multiple times to get to that home in the first place.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_02]: But other than that, it was just kind of like a side. It was like a leading story for the first 40 minutes.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And then it became more of a side story. I guess there were reasons why DSS were involved, of course.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, that could lead to her losing her kids eventually and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll get there. So I understand a little bit of that, but it was just like too strongly a part of the movie for it to be a horror film in the first because the horror.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: To your point, the film is about the house and the history of the demon in the house.

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: So why aren't we spending time focusing on the demon in the house?

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We we hear enough and flies in the basement and we've got a dead cat and we're like, oh, OK, it's flies in the basement.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a dead cat. But then it's like a damn demon with a hole in a hole down there.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Why are we not talking about that a bit more? I just didn't understand.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true. That is all true. However, I did think this is if you know, like if you follow real world exorcisms, hauntings, demon possessions,

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_01]: this movie is spot on for that because like again, I don't like this stuff.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But I listened to the podcast last podcast on the left, very famous true crime slash supernatural slash ghost type podcast.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And again, my husband loves listening to their their haunting and possession episodes.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So I have to listen to him, too. And they talk about how like, you know, in real life, depending on if you believe in demonic possessions or not,

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_01]: there's normally a rule of how the demonic possessions go when they're possessing a house or people, what have you.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And this movie followed those rules, which I appreciated.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people like again, you might not know what the rules of demonic possession is, but like it follows those rules.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a demonic entity enters is tied to maybe a house or something tied to something.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it tries to weaken the the the people in the house so that it can find a host.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The weakest hosts are normally always the children. They always they always gain access to the children.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it normally ends up into the adult, like literally bang for bang for bang.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of movies, The Conjuring. I don't I can't remember.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the demon ended up in the parents and the exorcist. But like I think it ended up in the priest, actually.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It did end up in the priest. Yeah. So it's like it's like a bang for bang for bang.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I and it also it always ties to the kids and a sense of like kids that are going through puberty.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So that the type with what the little girl like starting her period during the movie, like that's all like they said,

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: like people who really follow exorcists and demon possession, they said this is all stuff that that is present in demonic possession.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought they did a really good job with that.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I get what you mean, Ty, because I think they were going for some realism.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we did it really like you don't really see the demon.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You see the people being being the demon, you know, being the demon possession.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Do you know? I thought the backstory was a little holy, like you had to like piece it together.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I was I was telling James, I was like, no, the father, the father stationed in Iraq.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why he doesn't have kids. Because I was like, it sounds like he should have the kids.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. You know, right. All this demon stuff aside, you don't necessarily need to have possession of your kids, you know, like maybe maybe let the dad take them.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like everything outside of the move here.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_03]: This is an alcoholic who be beating her kids.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And I really liked Splash didn't like because it's really sad.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But how like the black black trauma of it ties into the possession and ties into why people wouldn't believe the demonic possession, you know, first and foremost, you know what I'm saying?

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like general generational curses.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, black women not being believed when it comes to their kids and are higher and more likely to get their kids taken away if something were to happen to their kids.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've talked about this on crime scene a lot because we talk about different stories on crime scene.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's like me as a mom, as a parent, taking my kid to the ER is a different type of stress level than some other people wouldn't realize.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like other white people or other people won't think about because if if something suspicious were to happen to my child, and even if I didn't do it, I have I have a greater likelihood of CPS being called on me than any other person.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Any other person with a background similar to mine?

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So I, I like that they kind of folded that into and talked about like real black trauma stuff.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, also like it might be a demonic possession.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Like is there the lot of things that this movie got right while still not being like, oh, this is not a movie of the year candidate.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like pretty, just like pretty good.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's a pretty good streaming service movie to me.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I was entertained.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't feel like I didn't feel like how I felt after divorce in black.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting because I don't think I thought I don't think I put this two and two together until we just had this conversation right now.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Essentially, the whole beginning of the movie was basically painting her as the deeming possession, her child or her children.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And then at the end of the movie, she had to fight herself essentially.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Because the demon took on the image of her.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So she was fighting herself.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's when they released the demons.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. So I, I, I can see the lead up now that we've had a conversation about it.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But it took obviously it took me a minute to be like.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Most, most, most people who don't believe in demonic possession believe that all of demonic possessions and stuff like this is all like allegory and all how the psyche deals with.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Stuff like this. So, like, again, never seen it in a black, like first time seeing it in a black family.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And again, the story being true was was very interesting to me.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's actually a documentary on Amazon Prime Prime video called The Demon House based on their exploits.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I did not watch that because, again, it's not my alley.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But I know all of the like the mechanics and stuff like that.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they like they they really feel like it's it's like like an embodiment of somebody's guilt or something like that, that that causes a lot of these possessions and stuff like that.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So very, very interesting. Yeah. Concept for.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So I pulled the article from the Indy Star Indy Star dot com, the Indianapolis, I guess, publication that originally broke the news of this exorcism.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, so this was written by Marissa Kwiatkowski.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And basically she goes in and just like outlines everything that we see in the movie.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there are some there are some differences for sure.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I think her mother doesn't die in real life at the hands of the demon or anything like that.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But they had 800 pages of official records obtained by the star about these cases.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the most unusual cases, obviously, that they had to deal with at the DCS office.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And so there's a lot of truth to what is going on based on the story of Latoya Ammons, who this is all about.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And so, yeah, when I was reading through the headlines and I guess in the article, a lot of this stuff came directly from it.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, there was definitely some differences, but everything, even the kid climbing the walls in the wall.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Yeah. Documented proof. True.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know about proof. Ain't nobody seen it. Well, ain't nobody seen it.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: No, they said the doctors saw it.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, I think the problem with proof is they ain't got no like video tape footage or nothing like that.

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_03]: But yes, we have we have witnesses who said they seen this.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And so for me.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no. You didn't open this. You didn't open this portal to the other side.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_03]: You just look, you survived all the rest of them. You're going to be all right.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You survived all the rest of them. You survived the conjuring. This one black.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So it can't be. The conjurings are like my favorite.

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Those are like my favorite movies because they don't feel like possession movies.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. The first one. They're really. Yeah.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they are. Yeah. Let's keep going.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So I read so I read through the article and I was very I was very surprised to see how much was, like you said, taken directly out of

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_03]: the headlines from this and documented. Right. And so, you know,

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_03]: the story, of course, that they move into this house, they are plagued with flies and this incredible stench.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And then eventually it started. They go and talk to some clairvoyants because some weird stuff starts happening to the family.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And so weird stuff that we saw in this movie. And so, as Mari pointed out earlier,

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_03]: the kids, they might have been in an abusive household. Yes. But when it came to them,

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_03]: when the demon starts to really get his claws sink into them, all these kids start acting up.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So we got. Yeah, we got baby Dre, who is he's the target of the demon.

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_03]: The tray is going through Dre to make all this demonic stuff happen.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_03]: But these other kids, they're also taking some L's.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Her daughter, Shantay, in the middle of her recital just starts free bleeding Mari.

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man. Free bleeding. And then Caleb Williams character just starts.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He starts laughing in class, but like getting HIV.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah. That was poor.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And then maybe Dre shattered on himself in front of. Oh, yeah.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not. Oh, my God. They say we didn't see it, but they said that he ate.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He ate it. Yeah. Well, I think.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because what happened in the article and in the movie as well is that when DCS and the authorities are involved, they go to they're doing all these evaluations and they can't find anything wrong with the kids.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And so it becomes public perception that they're doing this on purpose to, like, entertain their mom to like she's got these fears about it and they're performing basically for her.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And so so that's what they accuse her of. And in the movie, she says, you think my baby ate shit because he was trying to perform for me?

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, you're making a good point. That's a hell of a performance.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, same thing with the free bleeding. Honestly, like you, you can convince me that Nate started laughing at HIV, but you cannot convince me that little girl stood up on that stage and just started bleeding everywhere.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It would no like type of shame. Just in front of everybody runs everybody out of the auditorium.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_03]: It just stands there. That's a dedication to a performance like I've ever seen.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I yeah, and I definitely had a laugh at like, well, first off, my notes just said, dang, all the kids are going ham at school.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And then but like they go to call her and she's in like a barbershop and the guy is like, you have somebody in the chair.

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't answer that. At a barbershop.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_03]: She said, my kids are being possessed. I'm going to go regardless.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in a salon. Yeah. Like what you mean? I can't talk on the phone while I'm doing somebody here.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_02]: What? I've never seen somebody not on the phone at a barbershop.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: As a matter of fact, every barber that I've ever had will have a whole ass conversation like you're not even in a chair.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_03]: My old barber, he used to walk off like if his phone ring and be pacing around the room.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Please, sir, please come cut my hair for the love of God.

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I know that right there. I was like, boy, if you don't stop.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, like these kids are just I oh my God, it felt so bad for those kids.

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I felt so bad for her because it's like, what do you do?

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like your world is spinning out.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she did the really good thing of like testing them for everything.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But then they're like, everything's normal. You're just like, what the is going on?

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know what you do? You go to the bar and drink and you leave the kids.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_01]: What? All night. All night. All night.

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_02]: The sun was coming up when she was in the wind.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_03]: She was like, man, fuck this. That lady walked home from the bar in the middle of the night.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Shoes drunk as hell.

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_03]: At least I didn't drive.

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_03]: This is why they try to take your kids.

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, this is why this is your business.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_01]: My other note says she ain't got no shoes on.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_03]: She got no shoes on or nothing. Jesus.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Nothing. OK, bronchitis.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I got time for that. So yeah.

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So she's struggling. You're right. She's got this demon that, you know,

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_03]: she's probably not willing to acknowledge at this point is a demon.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But she's also dealing with her own traumas.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Her mom, Glenn Close is Lee Daniels will go on Twitter or I guess

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_03]: in our interview has now said that Glenn Close's character

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_03]: is a part of the fabric of the black community.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, this older white lady who was a grandma to little black kids in the hood slash

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: mama to whatever a strong black lady is in the neighborhood.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And you have the tweet. Could you read that to us?

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Every black person knows in Alberta, she's part of the fabric of our community.

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But we've never seen her on screen before.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Glenn, for bringing her magnificently to life.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The deliverance is out now on Netflix.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I look, I, I too would like to thank Glenn Close for bringing this character to life

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_03]: because I have never seen this character before.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_03]: This is not a character I'm familiar with.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I am from the deep south. I'm from Texas.

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the south and southwest at the same time.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_03]: But listen, the white folks here, they got mixed babies, too.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_03]: But they not like hood adjacent white folks.

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_03]: They still be like trying to fake the funk, you know, like, all right.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, we'll deal with the black baby daddy and the and the black child.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But the child, we don't see color. You know, that kind of white women.

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_03]: As far as like the grandmas that have the mixed kids.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I've never seen, you know, a Glenn Close type doing a so in a little in a little hair weave train.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Mario, never. Oh, my God.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And to your point about hood adjacent, this might be why the damn interior of the house look middle class

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and the exterior of the house look damn lower class.

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I didn't understand. I don't know what Lee is talking about.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what Lee is talking about.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a part of the fabric, Mario.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no. No. It's a small corner to quilt.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. Because that that hair trick, nobody, nobody does that.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't know real black women who does that.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that is a made up thing for movies.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_01]: If I'm getting my hair done, I'm not doing somebody else's hair. Right.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And I cannot believe Glenn Close smacked that lady head.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I was like, this is too on point.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_01]: This is too much. Damn, Glenn. She tend to hit it. Don't hit her.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I know. Like that was just that was just crazy to me.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's I don't know. Do we not see these these characters?

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I would rather snap peas in the kitchen. I don't I don't.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_02]: What is this? I don't know.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, well, listen, we know the young version of them.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And I even know the ones that be like that,

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_03]: they have like matured and you can tell they've been around, you know,

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_03]: the neighborhood a little bit like I know those women.

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But this woman was like the matriarch of a black family, you know?

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And that was that's what was kind of throwing me off was just like,

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, I'm sure you have it.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You heard in the real story, though, that that's that's

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: that's a black woman in the real story. The real story. Yeah.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_03]: The the grandmama is black in the real story.

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Her character is completely made up.

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_03]: She did not die. And she's not a white lady in this.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_03]: In the original story, she's just she her name is I think her last name

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_03]: is Campbell and she's living in the house as well.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_03]: She's Latoya Emmons mother, but she does not die in the in the fight

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_03]: against the exorcist. I mean, all the exorcism and the exorcism.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_03]: She does not die against the fight against the demon, I guess I would call it.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. So so so Lee Daniels, he cooked this up in his own mind.

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, for this to be a fabric of the community, Mari.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Well, why she wasn't in the story. Why do we need Glenn Close?

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we did it.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she was like a nice cherry on top.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_03]: She was acting.

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: She was a Monique could have played Monique could have played that role.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_01]: To be quite honest.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I just I just I need to understand the intent behind the casting process.

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, was he looking for any old any mama that could work in that situation

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and she just did the best job and he hired her?

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine with it.

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: But if he was he went into it with the intent of making this a biracial

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_02]: situation, then I'm way out of my way.

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Hold on. Hold on. Pause. What?

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_03]: You mean I can't even just imagine Glenn Close in a lineup

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_03]: for like a black mother part.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_03]: She just showed up with her book, her portfolio.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm Glenn Close reading for the for the part of what's her name?

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Alberta, Alberta, Alberta, Alberta in the hood.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, Glenn, go ahead and read.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he passed Andrew first and was like, who you want to?

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And was like, OK, she's light enough.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: No, he said, I'm trying to see if I can find it.

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But he basically said he specifically changed the character

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_03]: of vision.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because he wanted he said he had like mixed friends.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So he wanted to portray this type of character.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. That's in the same in the same tweet quote, I believe that you were reading.

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I believe later on goes to say like he wanted to tell the story for

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_03]: his mixed friends.

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But again, I just I mean, Lee Daniels is we're not from the same neighborhood.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So I yeah, when you grow up and that's what I want to know.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I never met this version again.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Not to discount his experience.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_03]: If it happened, it happened.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not, you know, and there's obviously the cash me outside girl will

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_03]: grow up to be something one day.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. Like she's going to be somebody grandma one day.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_03]: God knows what she's going to be like.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm sure this happens.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I just ain't never seen it.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, is a blanket statement of every black person knows a Glenn

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Close type.

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the problem.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's where you lose me.

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I yeah.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And and again, calling them the fabric of our society or

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_03]: a part of the fabric, a part of it.

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the whole fabric within a sprinkle in there a little bit.

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So the stitch a little bit, just a little bit.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're going to make sure we saw it, though.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to be a part of the fabric.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to be the one sewing it.

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So moving on, we we we have our enter our

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_03]: what our evangelist here.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_03]: She's showing the apostle, our apostle.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I just get right.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It goes up.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Listen, I don't watch these movies.

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't be knowing.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_03]: We don't do that.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the first time you've been called apostle, actually.

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like Tasha Smith.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, we don't do it.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_03]: We don't do exorcism theory.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to have to go somewhere else.

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Tasha Smith, she's a pastor.

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Tasha, is it for five minutes?

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe she did the opening sermon and then she came on later on

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_03]: to tell them they came to the wrong place.

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_03]: We don't do exorcisms at my church.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And I said, I don't know where I would go to get an exorcism done.

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But the Vatican.

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, do I have to?

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You got to you got to petition the Vatican.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But do I got to go there?

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you don't got to go.

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Email address.

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, how am I going to get in touch with the Pope?

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, what was the denomination of the church?

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Black.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be shocked if it was Catholic, because usually the, you know,

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_02]: this is a Catholicism type of thing.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's why they didn't call it exorcism in the show,

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_02]: because this lady was going to AME church or something.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Legally, legally outside of the church.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't you can't be exorcised.

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly how the Vatican says you have in order to do

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Vatican sanction exorcisms, you have to it has to be performed

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_01]: by one of their exorcism priests like this is the thing.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we might not have been able to get the Vatican on the line,

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_03]: but we got exorcist at home.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm here to do our exorcism.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_03]: This time is Anja new Ellis and she has been lurking outside the

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_03]: house because this is not her first rodeo with this home.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_03]: She has seen it before.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think I've ever been more disappointed in Anja new

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Ellis in my entire life than I was in this film,

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_03]: because this lady had one job.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_03]: This lady had one job.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_03]: She'd been trying to her whole life for this,

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_03]: this exact exorcism.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_03]: She said last time this happened,

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't ready and I lost it.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_03]: It didn't work out.

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But this time I'm ready and I'm coming here stronger than ever.

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_03]: She didn't bust a grape in the fruit fight y'all.

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, nothing.

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm dying.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I said, no, she ain't.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll turn to the Mari.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I'm not going to do that.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I was yelling at the screen.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, you're my home.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_03]: What are you talking about?

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You dying.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Say you're mad at Reverend Bernice.

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Bernice pissed me off.

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Mari, you, this lady has been training her whole life.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_03]: She got her ass whooped.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_03]: She lied on her resume.

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_03]: She lied.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Three liters of holy water and still.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Still lost.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I said, you came in here with all the key.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_03]: You said, I got it.

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to tell you exactly what you need to know.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And she did the normal script where whenever you're dealing with an

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_03]: exorcism, Hey, let me tell you, when we go in there,

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_03]: it's not your loved one anymore.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to tell you whatever they want to tell you.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You got to believe whatever they're going to transform into different

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_03]: things, but you just stand behind me.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I got it.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Mari, she got the sprinkling that holy water.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I said, just pour it on them.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, what are we doing?

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, it was too much.

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And then to just get mopped up and leave our main character to fight off

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_03]: the demon on her own.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: She got mopped up.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_02]: She's like, Hey, Hey, go upstairs.

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Go upstairs.

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_02]: We got this.

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_03]: No words.

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm dying.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Like with a straight face.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_03]: She wasn't like, I don't think I'm going to make it.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_03]: She said, I'm dying.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm dying.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But you have the tools.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So like, and that was another thing, right?

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So not,

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_01]: do you normally do not see exorcism movies where the person who's like,

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_01]: who's like possessed changes into other people.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, so I was watching, I was watching it when,

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_01]: when Alberta dies, like 75% of the way through.

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, how?

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I was so confused because I was like, we didn't see the nappy pussy part yet.

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what is happening?

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: How is she dead?

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And then, so the,

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: the son is possessed and Bernice is trying to do her thing.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But then the son got the other little boy's face on his face,

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_01]: which was weird and all weird and CGI.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, what the fuck is going on there?

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden,

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Alberta's in the chair again,

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_01]: looking all demonic.

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I turned to Jacob.

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what the fuck?

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Did I miss something?

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Why is Alberta here now?

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I was so confused.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I realized, oh, the demon is like,

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was kind of interesting because you don't see that in like

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_01]: exorcism movies.

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Normally it's the voice.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It's always the voice that changes.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like different voices.

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Or like green or some sort of different color or something.

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That was pretty, that was interesting.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was pretty interesting.

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And then like Ty said,

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Andra Day's character fighting herself at the end,

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_01]: like the demon embodying her was pretty good.

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought this was a good, a good showing for Andra Day.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I did too.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, she's doing it.

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this was good.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I enjoyed the acting across the board.

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously Andra Day, you know, she's a decorated actress as well.

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, you know,

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_03]: sometimes it's fun to see these more polished actors

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_03]: play a role that's a little grittier.

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And by grittier, I mean black, you know,

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I really like, you know, step outside of the acting school,

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, and just kind of like give us something that feels a little real

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Ty, how did you think she did?

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I think she did.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I thought she played the role of the black mama extremely well.

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_02]: When she called that man whole government, Nathaniel DeJuan.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. Yep.

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_03]: He was Nate earlier, but now she mad.

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Now she mad, you know, Daniel.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_03]: So one of the things I noticed in the article is that,

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_03]: y'all in the movie, it might have been just one good little exorcism,

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, straight in, straight out.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It was one exorcism that affected three kids at the same time.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I'd never seen that before.

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_03]: But I found out later on that.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, maybe just maybe in the article,

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_03]: it says that there was at least three exorcisms done.

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So I guess sometimes you tap it and then you got to come back and make sure

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_03]: it's still, you know, got to make sure you get all of the demon.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't just leave it after one.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess you have three kids in a real life.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_01]: No, she had to.

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Really? I thought she only had two.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Hold on. Let me look.

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm pretty sure I had the ages were like seven, nine.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think there was seven, nine and 12 in the article I saw.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But I might be wrong. Let me check.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought she only had two and the oldest was nine.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But while you look that that's standard,

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_01]: like the exorcism of Emily Rose,

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like her fifth or something when she died.

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they like a lot of us,

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_01]: like they do that shit over and over again.

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's how somebody ends up getting hurt.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha. Yeah.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It says the family said demons possessed the Ammons and her children,

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_03]: then seven, nine and the oldest being 12, 12 was the one who levitated.

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So it was actually the 12 year old.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Another 12 year old is the one who levitated.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Levitating. That's what I'm saying.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't read it in the movie.

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm fucking well, in the movie.

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Technically, the nine, the nine year old,

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_02]: the daughter is the one who levitated, you know, out of the bed.

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if she was in the middle.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: The middle is the one that levitated.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they had.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_01]: She had two older kids and a younger kid.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she was without her 15th birthday.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_01]: They were celebrating or something like that.

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Her 15th birthday was wild, though.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_03]: They had dice, they had liquor, they had weed.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_03]: In their house.

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_01]: She dancing on people.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Who are these people you dancing on in your house?

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_02]: She's in the hood.

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_02]: She's in the hood.

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_02]: When you have a party in the hood, everybody in the hood comes to the party.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But for the baby, for the child, you know, Mari,

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_03]: remember we were talking about rap shit and how the baby had a party

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_03]: and you could tell you was drunk at the baby party.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how it felt like, you know, like it's a party for the kids.

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But is it really?

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not.

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not.

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_03]: But at the party we did see.

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we've we've touched on a little bit.

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Omar Epps is in this movie, y'all.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And him and Glenn Close hook up at the party.

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_03]: They definitely hook up.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So weird.

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So weird, man.

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to talk about it.

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_01]: What has happened?

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I know, right?

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like we have like A-list actors popping in doing random ass

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_01]: shit in this movie like.

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And then we was just preaching, yeah, Omar Epps hitting on Glenn Close,

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: hooking up and leaving.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like what? Why?

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Why was that in the movie?

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_02]: That man saw a new move, he sang karaoke, he got some booty,

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_02]: gave a good morning kiss and was never seen again.

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Why was that in the movie?

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think Lee Daniels is trying to tell us about this fabric of our

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_03]: culture, of our community that like,

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_03]: and she also going to be smashing on a younger black dude somewhere.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like you go black, you never go back.

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what he tried to tell us.

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what exactly is this Indian for?

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Because it doesn't move the plot at all.

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_03]: No, it doesn't at all.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's a character moment for somebody who dies three,

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_03]: three fourths of the way into the movie, you know,

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_03]: so there's a very odd to me that they include that.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It goes back to what you said.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Omar owed Lee a favor.

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And it was like, Hey, I need some more star power.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Come on on this and do this role real quick.

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I asked what Omar,

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_03]: that's the most recent thing that he's done that was like well known as like

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_03]: not outside. Obviously he's on like, I believe he's in a power book three.

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_03]: You know but I don't know.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like movie wise. I didn't know Omar else was out here doing the things.

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the last thing he did was like a B rated movie that was on stars.

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember the name of it though.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the last time that's the last thing I saw him in other than power book

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_02]: three. Yeah.

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Very surprised.

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Can we talk about that ending though?

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that ending.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_01]: That was crazy to me.

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I literally wrote down this too much like to quote Monique.

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, well what about the end?

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Was it just the fight or what you mean?

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_03]: The after the fight stuff?

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: No, all of it. The fight. I mean, after Bernice gets her ass whooped,

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_01]: which is very funny. We talked about that.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_01]: When Audrey goes into the basement and has to like really face the demon

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_01]: herself, she doing the backbends.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, God damn it.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_01]: We cannot escape an exorcism without getting a contortion backbend.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And then her kids like the girl having stigmata,

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_01]: like bleeding out her eyes and levitating.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That was another good one. Stigmata.

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right. I think her oldest son,

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_03]: was he basically crucified at that?

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was like, he was like rending his flesh.

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He was tearing his flesh.

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. But at the end it was, he was like this.

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_02]: He had his feet crossed at the top.

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, basically fully naked other than his drawers.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, he was definitely,

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_02]: it was definitely some imagery of the crucifixion.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And then like, and then they had to do like,

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and Audrey Day had to fight.

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I realized she had to fight herself because if not,

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_01]: she was fighting her like younger son.

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_03]: They can have her like fist fighting little Dre.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Little boy. But like, then she's speaking.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_01]: She started speaking in tongues and apparently that wasn't in the script.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Ooh, but she hit it.

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause when I tell you,

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I was over here cause I was like, Hey man,

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_03]: listen back in the day.

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Have y'all been around people that spoke in tongues before?

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Back in the day, Bible school days, we used to,

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_03]: we used to imitate some people so much to where we had little short hands.

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever spelled Eddie really fast?

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Mari? No.

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Spell Eddie really quickly.

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_01]: E-D-E-I-E-D-I-E-D.

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's it.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_03]: We used to do that all the time.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I know tongues.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. I can't speak it, but I can.

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly what it sounded like too.

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. Riding in a Honda.

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. Yes.

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_03]: We used to do that all the time.

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry. When you grow up in that church house,

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_03]: you got to make it fun for yourself after a certain point.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_03]: So when she started speaking in tongues,

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_03]: oh no, my foot got to tapping y'all.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I hit some I rebuke you in the name.

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you was with her.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You was like, let me go ahead and put, let me go ahead and use some energy to this.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me piggyback so you stay in there.

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But so, so ultimately,

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Andra Day's character, Miss Ebony,

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_03]: finding Jesus was really what helped her in this moment.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, she does buy her, her metaphorical demon and literal demon.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But she ends up turning to the God that she's scoffed at this entire time.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, she's kind of talked about her mom, Glenn Close.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah. Now you, so now you didn't found Jesus.

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Now you want to be in the church house when you was abusive and all this other stuff.

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_03]: When we were younger, you still be cussing up a storm,

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_03]: but that's pretty normal to the church that I know as well.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the, the, if you listen closely to older women in the front row,

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_03]: because in two, and so she brings it up.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Those things weren't cool back then.

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And now you found Jesus and we supposed to let it all go.

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But eventually her embracing Jesus herself,

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_03]: that very crucifix that she scoffed at, Ty,

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_03]: ends up being the thing that helps her save the day.

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_03]: She called out to Jesus when nobody else can help her.

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_02]: She did. She did.

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's kind of what the apostle told her.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It was like, and this is where the whole idea of this is an exorcism.

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a, the deliverance is that you don't need some intermediate person,

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, to make this happen.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You really just need you and your connection with God.

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah. And that's what it, that's what it is.

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_02]: So she used that and she was able to, to, to fight the demons.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_02]: She was able to get her children back six months later.

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, she, she was, she was batted and bruised.

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_02]: She was real. She was real fucked up.

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_02]: She got out of there, but she got out of there, you know what I mean?

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So it was good. It was good.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And that's the real life difference between Catholicism and the tenants that,

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, form Protestantism and, you know, everything that spirals from it.

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a direct link to God versus having to go through the Pope and his intermediary.

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, it was really good.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, that I like that.

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yeah. And she got her kids back.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they do go to foster care because like I said, they,

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_03]: they pretty fucked up, but, but eventually she gets them back.

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I question whether or not we should be giving them back after only six months.

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_03]: This lady does need to be in some alcoholics anonymous type of meetings

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_03]: or something like that. Like aside from the exit,

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_03]: like aside from the deliverance of it all, she wasn't great.

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_03]: She wasn't great.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know what other counseling and stuff that she went to in the meantime,

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_03]: but they got to get this alcohol problem under control, Mark.

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause you're going to be like leaving the kids at the house for hours out the day.

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Even if there isn't a demon inside the house.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. You can't be doing that.

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't be going to corner boys and beating them up and telling them you beat

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_01]: they hoe ass mama too.

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_03]: She said, go get your hoe ass mama. Okay.

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, points were made. She kicked that dude right in the ball.

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Points were made.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, the reason why she got them kids is because of my favorite quote came

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_02]: from Monique. I'm going to talk to him judge, but I'm getting fucked up.

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so real. It's real. So, you know, let's give a,

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_02]: let's give a Monique her blessings for talking to judge and getting them kids

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_02]: back. And she had to go back to Philly.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_02]: She went back to Philly talking to the daddy. They communicated.

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_02]: She had to get them kids out of, uh, I can't remember what they were.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_01]: She had to get them kids out of Pittsburgh in this movie.

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she had to get them kids out of there because the kids embarrassed themselves.

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Gary, Indiana.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they were in Gary. Oh, home of the Jacksons. Oh yeah.

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_03]: They got bigger problems. Like a bigger fish and fry.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Them kids embarrassed themselves in school. So they had, they had,

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_02]: they couldn't stay down no more.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_02]: They got to move.

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_03]: After the eating feces part where your little,

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_03]: when your son start eating his own boo-boo, you got to go.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't stay here no more. I don't care what the outcome was.

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Ain't nobody going to believe this exorcism story.

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Get out of my face you ass kicker.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_03]: They finna call him a bunch of things, everything but a child of God.

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_03]: It was time to go for sure. And speaking of real Ty,

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_03]: this is when we see that, you know,

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_03]: this is based on true events and we even get a picture of the real house.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Mari, I wasn't expecting this.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know honestly that this was based on true events until I got to the

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_03]: end and then I went back and did my research.

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. I mean, they say it at the beginning.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but people say that all the time.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_01]: People don't pay attention.

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You think I read the beginning?

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. They showed a picture of the house.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They showed a picture of Latoya, Latoya, Latoya, sorry.

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Emmons. Um, and, um,

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_01]: the house was bought by a ghost hunter guy who was on TV and he filmed,

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that documentary that we talked about in the house and then he

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_01]: demolished it in 2016. So the house is gone.

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_01]: They said there's still like, um, strange.

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. No, I don't like it.

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But to that I say, did the exorcism not hit? You're like, dang,

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_03]: how many of these we got to do for the strange events to stop?

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like this is, I thought we was thorough.

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Them demons are strong.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like everybody call like alcoholism and things like that.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Like a demon. That's why you got coins. You never get rid of it.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just, you just learn how to cope.

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess that's the same situation with this, you know what I mean?

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_02]: But, uh, yeah, I was on the same page as you.

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, why they got words at the end of this movie?

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_04]: This shit real?

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_03]: This shit was real and honestly really entertaining.

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_03]: So I was very excited about it, uh, about talking about it with y'all, uh,

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_03]: very different vibes than we had when we talked about, uh, TP, Mr. Tyler Perry.

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But again, I guess this goes to show you that, uh,

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_03]: you can have something that's clickbaity and that is not awful. You know,

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_03]: you can have, you can have big moments that people can speak about,

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_03]: that you can put in a trailer that'll grab people's attention and still tell

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_03]: a compelling story without sacrificing, you know,

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_03]: all of the normal movie watching experience, you know?

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause I think when we watched Tyler Perry's, um,

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: what was it? The divorce in the black, um, that I think it was clickbait.

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And then when you got there, there was more clickbait and more clickbait

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: where is this felt like there's a couple of moments that you definitely could

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_03]: laugh out loud and get your attention,

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_03]: but it still told a very compelling story.

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was happy that we decided to talk about it. Um, Tyrone,

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_03]: what'd you think about the movie overall?

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I would, I would, I would give it another watch. You know, I like,

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I like a good movie with a replay value.

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I would give it another watch only because I think it's something that's funny

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_02]: because I would watch it with my family and we would find ways to use these

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_02]: quotes for the rest of our lives. Um,

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_02]: it is one of those movies that I think hits like that.

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'll give it a solid B. I give it a solid B. I like it.

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. Mari, were you going to grade this one too?

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I liked it. I thought it was very fun thing.

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I really had to put up a wall and divorce myself from the subject matter.

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so it didn't get to me. But I, again, I thought it was really,

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: we was watching like, what? Like just yelling and like, what, who does this?

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was, I cracked up every single moment that Monique was on that,

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: that at one point she said, fuck you too, bitch. Like,

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: she started talking noise first. Like her and her and her granny are just

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_03]: eyeballing each other.

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Mama in there. I said, you know,

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: it was good. So definitely a B again. Like, like I,

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I think of like stuff that's in theaters box office.

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I think of like good streaming services,

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: movies that you watch on the weekend. That's what I did here. You know,

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: when y'all are, when you're like, it's nighttime and stuff,

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: you want to get a little cozy. Like this is, this is that. And it was,

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: it was good. It felt high quality to it again.

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't feel like I was watching a soap opera or anything like that.

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So I liked this.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is really good. If you're listening to this,

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_03]: let us know in the comments, what was your favorite part about the movie?

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Let us know what you thought.

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: If you thought that it passed the test or if this was a more Tyler Perry than

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_03]: we liked it. Yeah. Maybe you didn't like it.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw a lot of people say I turned it on and turned it right back off.

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So I would love to hear your opinions. Leave the comments. Yeah.

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Let us know. You said the religious people was running from it.

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Like there was a lot of people who were like, you know, you know,

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: they were like, not, not, not even the one I don't play with that.

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, so there, you know how it's like, I don't play that.

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Then there were people who were like, in the name of Jesus, this is,

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: don't watch this because see who's making it.

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They trying to get you type. Oh yeah.

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_04]: The agenda.

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly.

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't say nappy pussy and then have all the religious people want to watch

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: it. I'm just, I mean,

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: you can't say pussy outside of this podcast.

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_03]: After this, we're not saying it no more.

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't have the fabric of the community say it. Nevermind. I'm sorry.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Part of the fabric, not the whole fabric, just a piece of it.

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We all got children here. Tyrone.

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Already the Illuminati.

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Truthers and all of that is, it's coming for it, but

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't take it so seriously.

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. It's a movie. It's a movie, but you all got to watch it.

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But if you did let us know what you thought. Let us know in the comments,

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, or at us on social media at recap kickback on Twitter.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_03]: You can DM us on Instagram. You can DM us on Tik TOK.

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Or you could of course leave that in the YouTube comments,

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_03]: youtube.com slash at recap kickback to let us know what you thought about this

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_03]: movie and to let us know what you want us to talk about for spooky season.

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause October is about a month away.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_03]: We got Halloween and I got the best guest ever for recap kickback when it comes

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_03]: to Halloween. Cause all of these people that I talked to Latonya, Tyrone,

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Marty, they're all insane and they love scary movies. And so, um,

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure they'll have a lot to say about scary films in the future.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_03]: In the meantime, Tyrone, thanks for coming back boss.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_03]: What you got going on?

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, this was, this was fun, man. Um, I got recap kickback.

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I got my ad up here, which means I'm back on Twitter. Um,

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_02]: so I'm back out in the world socially. Uh,

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: so that's what I got going on, man.

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of a certain myself back into social media and then, um,

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_02]: coming back for some more recap kickback.

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Can't wait to have you back.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll find something else for you to talk about soon. Of course,

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_03]: cause uh, we can't let you get too far away Tyrone. But, um,

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Marty, what you got going on?

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, me and Sarah Caridin are bringing True Crime Tuesdays to RHAP over on the

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Crime Scene podcast. Um, this past week we talked to,

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: uh, uh, Kevin from Crime Writers On about the Lacey Peterson

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: docuseries on Netflix. You want to hear our thoughts,

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: go to Robhazelwebsite.com slash crime feed. Uh,

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Jason Reed is coming up next with a worst ex ever,

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe is what we're going to be watching with him.

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of good stuff coming down the pipe.

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So just make sure you're subscribed to Crime Scene and you can also follow me

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[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I am covering Big Brother with RHAP as well.

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to know what I'm going to be on, follow me on Twitter.

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You'll see, uh, we were just on the Sunday night recap episode of Big Brother.

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. It was a ladies night when me, Asia Welch,

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and Kirsten McInnis took over and we had so much fun.

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you haven't seen that, just go to the RHAP YouTube page there as well.

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, that's it for me, Chappelle. What do you got going on?

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, you can catch me on the Nothing But Netflix podcast,

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_03]: talking about Netflix shows with Rob.

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_03]: This week we talked about a hot dog eating contest on Netflix between Joey

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Chestnut and Kobayashi. It was insane. I did not know, uh,

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: we had such elite eaters in this world. Uh, they was eating down, I would say.

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And so we had a new world record. Uh,

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: we saw Ray Mysterio Mari made an appearance and Omos, you know,

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_03]: my guy. And so, uh, yeah, both of them made an appearance. Uh, so it was,

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_03]: it was a fun time. Check that out and make sure you,

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_03]: if you don't want to watch people go swallow, um,

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_03]: roughly 80 something hot dogs in the span of 10 minutes,

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: you can always go listen to us talk about it on the Nothing But Netflix podcast

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_03]: and subscribe on Twitter to Nothing But Netflix at Nothing But RHAP.

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And then of course here on Recap Kickback, more content coming.

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Bel Air is coming your way with who you and I are making our way through the

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_03]: season. I think we've got two more weeks of podcasts for Bel Air. And then,

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: um, AJ really wants to talk about Fight Night.

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think Fight Night should be out by the time this is out. So, um, yeah.

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think Tyrone might make an appearance for that too. So yeah,

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: we should be bringing that to you. And then, uh,

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_03]: the conclusion of Hollywood Black, uh, with LaTonya,

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: we got to get that on her schedule and then of course much more content to come

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: moving forward, but you can keep up with all of that and more by, uh,

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_03]: subscribing to Recap Kickback and following at Recap Kickback on all social

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_03]: media platforms. Um, but that's it. That wraps up the deliverance.

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully we will be back for a lot more content as long as them demons don't

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_03]: get us. But until next time you ain't got to go home,

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_03]: but you definitely can't stay here because I'm about to turn all the lights on

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_03]: before I go to sleep. Talk to you all next time. Peace.