The Vampire Lestat Episode 3 Recap - TORONTO

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[00:01:52] Aldi. Gutes für alle. Hey, what's up, fam? Welcome back again to Recap Kickback presents the Vampire Lestat Recap

[00:02:21] here on RecapKickback.com. It's me, your host Chappell. Back to talk to you about another episode of this latest iteration of the Anne Rice Immortals Universe. The follow up to Interview with the Vampire season one and two, we have the Vampire-Lest Stat. And with me, talking about all things vampire, my vampire expert and somebody who I know is deep into the lore of the show at this point. It's Amari Forth. Amari, welcome back. We are back. This show is so good. It's so good.

[00:02:51] I am glad to be talking here with you. I'm glad that people are in our comments talking to us. Community, family, vampire bullshit. We love it. Yes. Yeah, if you're listening for the first time, we cover shows. And this time we're focusing on vampires. Amari is a vampire expert and I am an enthusiast right now. And I love talking to Amari about stuff that she's really good at talking about.

[00:03:16] So we're talking about this. We also have our House of the Dragon coverage coming now that that show has dropped. And so you can check that out. Our episode premiere should already be out. And then we also have other reality TV and television show coverage as well here on RecapKickback.com. But today's focus is this this ridiculous show. Amari, it's it's good. I could have never foreseen it going like this.

[00:03:43] I guess it's because I've never read the books. Right. So coming in as someone who has very limited knowledge about this, I was like, OK, vampire love story. You know, that's probably what I would have. Yeah. The vampire ads. And it is so much more. And the way they're telling the story, how we get multiple people's point of views, multiple narrators, whether it be Claudia's diary, Louis first hand accounts, the stats first hand accounts, you know, the truth somewhere in the middle.

[00:04:11] And then dunking on our mind. Any chance we get Mari, I feel so. You feel you feel like you're being heard. You're being seen. Understand you. I get it. I completely get it. Yeah, I mean, we've we've had it all. It's been we're three episodes into the vampire list stat and it is just it feels like just like list that in this episode pedal to the metal full tilt.

[00:04:37] No, no, no breaks just between hitting you with the history lore backstory just and then flash and glam and songs and music and and secondhand stories. It's crazy. It's so good. And again, full transparency to people who listen. I have I have read, consumed, watched a whole bunch of vampire stuff, vampire lore.

[00:05:07] I Chappelle called me a vampire expert. That's fine. But I did not read all of the vampire chronicles. I only read Interview with the Vampire. It was such a long time ago. I don't I barely remember it. And so I and I know this is also just completely basically off book.

[00:05:28] So I'm I'm actually at this point where I'm glad that I don't have a specific frame of reference for this series because I'm really enjoying the ride that they're putting us on. So and I feel like I'm I I don't know if that would be the case if I had read the books. If you've read the books, please tell us your thoughts about the show. But yeah, I'm having a fantastic time.

[00:05:52] Yeah, yeah, Maury, juxtapose that with your experience talking about House of the Dragon right now where you have read the books and you're like, wait a minute. I have some concerns. Yes, exactly. Exactly. If you are following our House of the Dragon coverage, which you should be deeply, deeply expert on Game of Thrones. I've read Fire and Blood at least 20 different times and continue to read it as we go through this series.

[00:06:20] And yeah, they have me over there confused. And again, not in a confused I don't know what's going on way and a confused as in why are y'all making these choices type of way. So, yeah, it's definitely a different experience. I will say both are fun to watch and fun to talk to you about. And that's that's the biggest thing. I'm having a blast talking about this show. And I'm loving that the people in the comments are as well.

[00:06:46] Big shout out to Khalil in the comments, but also your Valentine and Savvy0924. Your Valentine says the problem is that all the songs are about Louis. Louis and Lestat is trying to front because why do I feel like it's directly about Louis and the drummer read lyrics of the song and compared them to the words in the books. And they are one to one. I think Louis has earned a little pettiness, but he did say he heard the songs and it sounded like a cry for help. So he came. But Lestat is still mad, which he has every right to be.

[00:07:17] Does Lestat seem more trustworthy? Lestat couldn't even confirm that he had a stutter as a kid. Daniel had to ask him three times and it's only when his mom shows up, he begins to stutter. Same way Daniel asked Louis if it was raining. He lies by omission the same way Louis does. Why is he more reliable? I think for me, the reason why Lestat comes off more reliable is because Armand has tampered with Louis' memory. We know that for a fact. They're fucking around in his head.

[00:07:45] So because of that, I automatically kind of already squint at him. But Louis also kind of crazy. I get Lestat. He just presents himself to me as more trustworthy. Not to say that he is completely honest, but we've seen Louis for two seasons kind of lead us astray. And, you know, basically now that I know that the things that Louis was saying, you know, maybe there are lies of omission, but some of those things seem to be like incorrect memories. I will say it that much. I don't know.

[00:08:12] Lestat really presents himself as a more honest character, like almost like he's unapologetic about some of the things about him. I think the stutter specifically isn't so much a lie of omission. It's just he just doesn't want to talk about it. Whereas Louis had a whole book written about some of the truths that he bent, you know. And so maybe that's kind of why. But, you know, maybe it is. Maybe it's my bias against Louis. I think I'm a big Louis fan. I want him to do better.

[00:08:37] And so now I've been hurt so many times watching Louis chase after this man that I'm like, all right, Louis, you got to stop out of this line, you know. And so maybe that's what I landed on. But, yeah. It's also one of those things where the best manipulators and liars know when to tell the truth so that they can get away with their lies. And I think that's, I mean, if anything was demonstrated here in this episode, it's that. Like, Lestat will tell you the truth.

[00:09:08] And down the line, he will more than likely tell you a lie. And because you know that he is, he tells the truth when he wants to, it could be harder to pick out the lie. And as juxtaposed with Louis, like we said, Louis's lies are either by omission or could be incorrect. Well, we know, we know for a fact Lestat is like a, like a active liar. Like if he's, yeah.

[00:09:36] When he lies, he knows he's doing it. So one of the, like one of the parts in this episode, like after he gets up and has his old monologue and he's walking away from Daniel and he says, I tried to book an 8,000 seat theater thinking that we were big enough for it. We only sold 2,500 seats. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[00:09:59] It's that dropping a little truth nugget there after he just so blatantly just manipulated Daniel and the whole room. It's, it's, that's the reason why we are a little bit more keen to, uh, to, um, trust him. Yeah. I think that, and, uh, when Louis was talking to Daniel, he was, he was like actively telling the Louis version. Right.

[00:10:26] But that was the narrator that we got him telling the Louis version to Daniel for the book purposes. And we saw that those things conflicted in Daniel's own writings. Right. Like he would be like, well, you said this versus you said this. Lestat is telling us where his direct, you know, narration, or I guess whoever is listening to that album, uh, that that's the people that he's talking to. And I don't know if he is incentivized to lie to those people, but I do know this Mari. He is talking about Daniel as if Daniel is no longer with us. That was one of the first things I noticed. He was talking about Daniel Malloy and he said he was this.

[00:10:55] He was that, um, Daniel, uh, he said he was one of my bigger mistakes or one of my bigger regrets. I think at one point he talks about Daniel Malloy. And I don't think, I don't remember what if Daniel was present in that room in episode one, but I know Lestat talks about Daniel in the past tense, the entire time in that episode. Whoa. I did not notice that. Good pickup. Yeah.

[00:11:20] At that point where he said that was the point where Daniel's, um, hatred for me had, had like grown or something like that. We did see Louie. We did see our mom. We did see Ragland, but you're right. I don't know if we saw Daniel. The quote is, I did write it down. He said, um, Daniel led a brief incidental life as a vampire. What do you mean led? Yeah. If he's a vampire, would he not be alive still? Or dead, unalive?

[00:11:50] You know what I'm saying? Like, what do you mean by that? What do you mean by that? Yeah. So is this like life not incidental anymore? Or is he just don't have life no more? What's the, what are you saying? Oh, I for, oh my God. He did say that. It caught me off the heart. Yeah. It, it, it rang. And then I was just like, yeah. I like it, it, but then we were probably onto the very next thing. So like. Right. Right. Ooh, good catch. Good catch.

[00:12:19] Cause he was talking about how when Daniel was born in real life, you know, the life he lived and then his vampire life and how it started. And then basically like, no brief incidental life as a vampire. And that's when I was like, brief, you know, you know, brief and led are the two parts that got me kind of like questioning where, where the Daniel is with us. Um, currently again, this story is told from Lestat's perspective. And so Daniel, unlike with Louis, Daniel doesn't have to be in the room to tell that story. Um, because you know,

[00:12:48] Daniel's documentary is what he's using to, um, to tell Lestat's story. And Daniel doesn't have to be present for that either. Um, but we do see flashes of what it looks like when Daniel Malloy and Lestat sit down to, uh, do their interview or his new interview with the vampire. Mario, what did you think about this exchange between Daniel, the investigative journalist and Lestat, the unwilling participant who's pretending to be a willing, unwilling participant unwillingly?

[00:13:19] This whole scene was just so chaotic. So chaotic. Just too much going on. Sophia over there being a good mom. Question. What do you mean by that? Yeah. What do you mean by that? Because she sees that she sees that Lestat doesn't want to open some of these floodgates.

[00:13:43] So she's intentionally trying to distract him starting by like rubbing the leg of fake stat. What is that? Check stat. Oh, he's, he's herpy stat now. Herpy stat. Yeah. Um, rubbing his leg where, where, uh, Lestat can see her. Then at one point when, when Lestat is, you know, kind of getting into some of the most vulnerable stuff,

[00:14:11] she goes and is banging her stat in the bathroom so loudly that it forces the production to kind of stop for a second. Kind of like give Lestat a breather. She is, she is being a good mother and fledgling. Could she have done that without making Herp stat put the wig on? Why he have to wear the Lestat wig? Why did he, and it was all disheveled. It was all a scoot off the side of his head.

[00:14:39] I said, Lord Jesus, you didn't even, he didn't even put it on good. I just, Mar, I can't, I can't with the fledgling lover mother. That's not, it just don't work for me. Yeah, but she tried. She was, she tried. And when he got out of there, she, she was, she was suggesting. She's like, where do you want to go? Who do you want to kill? What are we, what are we doing? And he's like, I'm good. I'm good. He was a little emotionally spent. Yeah. She also tries to throw Daniel off by asking about the vampire, uh, the big, great conversion.

[00:15:08] Um, this is the second time we've heard her mention it. Daniel does eventually ask about it and Lestat's like, that's stupid. I don't care. Like we, so what if you think the vampires want to turn everybody into vampires? Like who basically, I feel like the question right there is like, who in charge of that? Who gets to make that decision? Like, like the vampires have a meet and greet, a powwow. Do they have some type of round table? Is there, um, a newsletter that goes out and they're like, all right, did they take a vote? Yeah. What is the council name in, uh, Twilight? Is it the Voltaire? The Voltaire. Yeah. The Voltaire. Yeah.

[00:15:37] Are they, do that in your readings of, as vampire stuff, do you find off like often that the vampires have like a governing body? Cause I think in True Blood, there was something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Like, uh, I think I briefly mentioned it. There's normally always like some sort of European vampire council because they're European vampires are older. And it's, and then there's like sometimes the offshoot of an American council and they're always butting heads. Like that's essentially what happened in Twilight as well. You know what I'm saying?

[00:16:07] It's that, that new, the, the, the new world versus old, old world, uh, type of narrative. So they're, they're always in, in quite literally a most vampire, um, structured books. There's normally an overseeing overarching council because again, you like every, these people are living forever. So somebody kind of got to whip everybody into shape. You know what I'm saying? And the great convergence, I'm really interested to see, to go deeper into this because it,

[00:16:36] it essentially doesn't make sense. You can't turn everybody into vampires because then what are they going to feed off of? Right. You know what I'm saying? Like humans are their source of food and humans can become part of their, um, their covens and can become vampires, but you can't, you, you cannot turn everybody into a vampire because then you, you have no food source. So, I mean, they would have to figure out a food source type of thing.

[00:17:02] Cause we, we saw when Louie was, wasn't consuming humans and how weak he was and all of that. So it just, it, it doesn't make sense. So I, I'm, uh, like logistically. Um, so I would love to see how that goes. Uh, same, same. I hadn't even thought about it along those lines. I know Gabriella has mentioned it a couple of times, but the actual logistics of how to make that happen right over my head.

[00:17:27] Um, so Lestat in this interview is pretty much in character for the most part. He's kind of presenting himself as the rockstar vampire, but vampire in quotation marks, like it's like it's persona. Um, and Daniel's really trying to get into like, no, you're an actual vampire. Let's talk about vampire things. Uh, he wants to talk about, uh, Lestat's childhood, uh, and how, you know, his becoming a vampire and the things that led him to this point.

[00:17:53] And he's using the tactics that, that got him so far with Louie, uh, the poking and prodding at him, trying to get him to loosen up, trying to play on his insecurities. Um, we saw what a skilled interviewer Daniel was, and there were flashes of that in this episode, but he has met his match with Lestat. Lestat is like, make no mistake. I'm not Louie. I, you, you wish, you wish I was Louie where I would just crumble at your words and you're prodding about stuttering and I would get sweaty and panic and start spitting.

[00:18:23] Spreading out words and crying and all this other stuff. Baby, that ain't me. That ain't me. You got the wrong G. So Lestat, Lestat, the entire time I was thinking that Daniel might've actually got the upper hand on him, Mari. And turns out this entire interview becomes a figment, uh, or, or, or at least a telepathic conversation and not one that Daniel could get on camera. Yeah, exactly.

[00:18:50] And it's, uh, again, it's showing us Lestat's truth and manipulation because let's be real. I, I do believe Lestat, you know, opened himself up, you know, was raw talking about his, his transformation, talking about Nikki and talking about everything he's endured. But so he got it off his chest to kind of make him feel lighter in a sense.

[00:19:18] Um, he, he gets that off his chest, but he also doesn't give Daniel what he wants because Daniel doesn't get any of that. So it's a way to torture Daniel and, and, and let Daniel in to see what Daniel wants to see. Cause this is what exactly what Daniel wanted, but not being able to prove it, not being able to use it, all of that stuff. It was perfect. It was perfection and perfect manipulation.

[00:19:47] And we've seen this in the last, we've seen the two seasons of Lestat, the manipulator, the abuser, you know what I'm saying? So, uh, this was, this was a, uh, dramatic turn of events. And I thought it was so funny. And I was like, I should have seen it coming. Like, like, why does this, he can't keep getting away with this. Like, how do we? You can't. And it goes to what we were saying, uh, what our commenter was saying, right? Like, why do you think you can believe Lestat?

[00:20:15] He blatantly lied to us for about 20 minutes of the episode, right? Like even this pop star, uh, kind of like music video that he imagines with Magnus ugly ass, um, kind of like seeing him across the room and then there's, he's singing the song and all this kind of stuff. That's all a lie. But because we're watching this through Lestat's perspective, we get the trauma at the, you know, later on where he's in the car and he really has to reckon with those thoughts that

[00:20:45] he had, uh, the thing, the actual story. So when you were seeing the pop star version of Lestat, I know you, I know you, you're keen on details. You, you knew he was lying or were you just like, this doesn't add up? No, I, I'm going to be real with you. I was so into that song. I, I've hated all of the songs since then. So when biggest fan came on, I was like, oh my God, this is a bop. Like, I liked it. I liked it. I was looking at the words.

[00:21:15] I wasn't even, and I was, I was kind of, um, I was like, oh, Magnus was ugly because right. Like, like up until this point, I had had this, um, vision of Magnus as like, like a great powerful. Cause, cause that's all they talked about the last like season of how the blood of Magnus, he, he's a direct descendant of Akasha. He's the one of the most powerful, he was one of the most powerful vampires.

[00:21:41] And, you know, for also for Lestat to be the stature that he is, the presence that he is. I really thought that Magnus would have a looming presence, a, you know, and for Magnus to be a foul, decrepit hermit creature looking person. I, that, that had me shook. I was actually shook.

[00:22:07] So I did not realize that, um, I mean, I didn't really also didn't really see it as the truthful retelling of his, his turning. So I was just kind of like, oh, so we're putting the songs with the people here. You know what I'm saying? And that song was so good to me. I really, and when he was like, you know, it's kind of like a, every breath you take Stan, you know, I love him. So I was like, oh, I love those types of songs where it's like a different like point of view.

[00:22:37] So yeah, I, I didn't even think that it was just him trying to, you know, put flowers on poop type thing. Well, my eyebrows definitely go up when he's like outside of Lestat's window longing for him. Like, I was like, what is happening? I was like, are you stalking him? And it, and like you said, the song does give you that vibe, right? Like a little, like he, he's a super fan, right? He's your biggest fan as your tagline says right here. Right. And so because of that, it's like Lestat has this, uh, this fake story about how, yeah,

[00:23:06] he was just obsessed with me. What do you mean? Look at me, you know? And I agree with you. I think I imagine Magnus is like Lestat senior. I just felt like the Lestat that we know was born of Magnus is maybe the same, uh, like aesthetic, right? Like if Lestat is this big gregarious character with all of these, like all these big words and he's so well read and he likes theater and all this stuff. I thought Magnus was the same, you know? And, uh, he's not, he's nothing like that. Um, he's actually awful. Um, exactly.

[00:23:36] Yeah. He's awful in every sense of the way. I mean, it definitely goes along the lines of what, what we've been told. Um, but it was just funny kind of watching how Lestat was really trying to nice it up, um, for, uh, Daniel at first. Um, but that's not really what takes him over the edge in front of Daniel. You know, that's like the cutesy part. The, the part where we get into the nitty gritty is about Nicholas, uh, Lestat's first love gone wrong.

[00:24:05] I know you had questions about the timeline. Have you worked out kind of how you think this is going, um, with Lestat first killing the wolves all the way up to, uh, Nikki's death? Yes, I found the timeline. Um, uh, I can put it, let me put the link in the show notes. It's in you the link so we can put it in the show notes. Um, it seems from like a pretty reliable source from on Tumblr. We love Tumblr. Yes.

[00:24:35] But basically Lestat's life changes in a matter of like six months. Um, so Lestat kills those wolves, the eight wolves in, uh, the winter of 1779. We're thinking about January or so, uh, in February of 1779. That's when he moves to Paris.

[00:25:04] Uh, he meets Nikki, um, and, and him and Nikki, uh, start, you know, dating each other, uh, about a few weeks later. Um, he's officially like he officially moves to Paris. Um, well, like Lestat is like in Paris. Uh, they, uh, his mom pays for him to live and act there.

[00:25:32] Uh, Lestat in summer of 1779, he, this is him on, he's on stage. He's in the, um, in Lilio rising at Renaud's house of thespians. And, um, later that, that, uh, autumn, uh, Nikki is disinherited. Right.

[00:25:56] Um, so he, he, his father, he talks about, well, he, he talks about how his father had basically cut him off when him and Lestat first get together, but he's, he's disinherited. And it's by October of 1779 that Magnus stocks Lestat. Um, and then he kidnaps him and turns him. Um, so that's, that's in October of 1779.

[00:26:21] So from January to October, he's only, he's only lives in like in Paris for like six months before he's turned essentially. Um, yeah. And, uh, yeah. And so I'll just stop there, but, uh, basically Lestat's in Paris. He meets Nikki, him and Nikki are together.

[00:26:47] They're, they're trying to, you know, live as actors and, and, uh, a violin player. Lestat gets taken, turned, and he comes back and we see that play out on this episode. So at first I was a little confused with the timeline, um, because of his mom, because I was like, well, what about his mom? Uh, in this timeline that I have, uh, his mom shows up in the spring of 1779.

[00:27:17] 1780. So again, only a year or so she turns up and that's when he turns her into a vampire. Yeah. Uh, so, I mean, that tells you how swiftly things are happening for him. Like things are moving really quickly. And we know Lestat has kind of been sheltered this entire time, right? So when he meets Nikki, this is a whirlwind romance. He talks about how it was basically love at first sight. I saw him. Uh, we know he's in like really enthralled by his music as well, or his playing abilities to some extent.

[00:27:47] And so Lestat's all in. He's like, all right, yep, this is it. Nikki, um, eventually starts to go frustrated because he starts to pick up on some of the, the mystical things that are happening around Lestat. He knows that Lestat is hiding something from him, at least something magical. Maybe the vampire, you know, the vampire thing. Obviously he doesn't know what it is, but he can tell there's some crap, some crap, you know, some stuff going on.

[00:28:14] Gabriella's presence is really what keys Nikki in onto what's going on because Nikki's trying to figure out why she's alive. You know, when we saw last episode, Gabriella told Lestat, I'm not going to make it through the winter, but we're at, uh, 17, eight, uh, 17, 80 at this point. And yeah, she does end up making it through the winter, but barely. And she, but she's around, right? Like she's kicking it. And so he kind of like, well, why is your mama here? Like, what's up? I thought she was about to die.

[00:28:43] It comes out that, you know, he has his ability to keep her alive. And Nikki says, okay, now pick me, love me, pick me, choose me, make me. Um, because if you really love me, you wouldn't want to spend an eternity without me. Right. And so, um, there are some conflicting feelings about this. Lestat obviously doesn't want to change Nikki. Uh, Gabriella doesn't want to change Nikki, but Nikki is throwing a whole BF and, um, he, he wants it.

[00:29:11] So eventually we will see Lestat change him over to a vampire. Now, Mari, why do you think Gabriella is so against Nikki? Is she just doesn't like him? Um, no, because he's clearly, uh, he, she could see that he couldn't handle the change. And also, you know, and also those dates correspond with the book. So the dates might be off because we shifted later modern, but it's still that same timeline

[00:29:40] of within a year. So all that happens. Sorry. Yeah. But anyway, revolution is happening. I mean, the American revolution is happening outside the window and the French are like involved. So it makes sense. Yes, exactly. Okay. Um, so, uh, yeah. Um, Nikki, I think Lestat kind of buries the lead. He's like, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, it's happens bipolar boyfriend, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:30:04] You know, uh, Nikki, unfortunately, I think as we can see, you know, is having a mental, mental breakdown, mental illnesses before the turn, before the turn, he is, um, acting erratically. Um, and, uh, I guess, uh, not point of contention, but I don't know if people know this, like when you turn into a vampire, your body is healed physically.

[00:30:35] But as we've talked about with like making vampires who are too young and stuff like that, it does not, you're there, you can't heal like mental illnesses, brain stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like becoming a vampire will not magically take away your anxiety, depression, or bipolar disorder. Probably going to make it worse. If anything. Exactly. So, um, your body can be healed and all of that, but the mind is basically all you have

[00:31:04] you'll have for an eternity. So your mind has to be pretty strong and fortified to withstand an eternity. So, uh, Gabrielle was like, he's, he can't, he won't cut mustard, but Lestat loves him too much. And Nikki is like, give me the dark gift. I want it. I want it. You, you, you give it to her and then da, da, da.

[00:31:29] And, and, and, you know, and this is after he, he'd been attacked by Armand and his people because they didn't, because Lestat didn't. Lestat didn't check in. Yeah. Lestat didn't check in. So they, so they, they kidnapped Nikki, almost drained him to death. Uh, and before Lestat recovers him and Nikki begs for the dark gift. And, you know, Lestat gives in because we've seen it before.

[00:31:59] Lestat. That's, that's kind of his thing. That's kind of his thing. He, he gives the love of his life, what they want, even if they live to regret it or whatever. So, um, just like he gave in making Claudia, he gives in and makes Nikki a vampire. It clearly does not make anything better. Um, Nikki ends up cutting off his hand and it's just, we, we see Lestat recount Nikki's death.

[00:32:28] Um, in that hypnotic state that he's in with Daniel Malloy. And it was just a plus, a plus acting for Sam Reed, man. Sam Reed. He's good. That boy. Good. That boy. That boy's good. Um, yeah, no, that was great. Um, Nikki, he, his breakdown that he has, right. Where he is cutting his hand off and throwing it in the fire. It's like a symbolic moment.

[00:32:57] You know, that's him being like, I'm not going to play music for you. No, I don't like, this is a breakup that's happening in front of us from, uh, Nikki, Nikki's point of view. Lestat calling him the love of his life. To me, that just goes to show you so quickly that Lestat loves, he loves Burns bright and fast. And, you know, but that's it. Like it's, it's not rooted in anything. You know, Nikki is the first person that we see him with since he left the castle. And then that's it. Like, that's the love of his life right now.

[00:33:25] The, you know, we see him have other paramours. We'll get to one of them later on. But even with Louie, him and Louie had known each other that long before they were tied together by the dark gift, you know? And Lestat didn't want to make Louie, to be fair. He was like, it wasn't like his initial reaction was we need to make Louie. He doesn't really even like making people. Um, and you could, you could imagine why, right? Because look at how he was made. Um, but I do think that there's so much more when Lestat is saying, oh, I love them. I think in the moment, you know, it makes sense for him.

[00:33:55] Like, oh, this is love. Right. But I think that create making Nikki is a mistake and it's just something that Lestat will probably never get over. And he tries to, you know, obviously like laugh it off and play into it and, you know, make songs about Louie and stuff like that. But I don't, I don't doubt that some of these songs are about Nikki because it looks like this. He did take this pretty hard. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:34:20] I mean, again, you have centuries and centuries worth of hurt and Daniel Malloy points out, he's like, oh, Nikki is no big deal. But after Nikki dies, he buries himself on the ground for a century, you know, before he comes back out. So yeah, as a vampire, that's the only way you can stop, you know, kind of like making memories, being a part of the world, you know, without doing the true death. Like, that's how it was.

[00:34:49] He didn't feel like experiencing anything anymore for a hundred years, you know, it took him a hundred years to be like, okay, I guess I can get up out of here. So yeah, it's not, you know, it was sad. It was sad how Nikki goes out. And I love how the music is bringing this all up. Like we said, it's opening, it's breaking down all of those walls that he's been having up for centuries.

[00:35:19] And it's opening the door, which could be a bad thing as we see a little bit later too. When did him, I keep forgetting, like, I want to go, I wanted to go back. Like, I didn't get time to go back and look at Armand's storytelling from season two of Interview with a Vampire. But I also was like, oh, I forgot that Armand and Lestat were like lovers for like two seconds. Yeah. I mean, it's happening while Nikki is there. We see him in this very episode.

[00:35:51] Look, I really hate that I love Lestat. I do because him telling his version of the events again, maybe it's true. Maybe it's not. We saw Armand's side of the story about what it was like when they were in the theater together. But this time in Lestat's version, him, Armand and Gabriella are sitting up in the booth looking down. I mean, the balcony looking down at Nikki playing furiously because Lestat is cheating on him. Lestat is sleeping with Armand. And Armand's like, have you told them about us? He's like, shut up.

[00:36:21] Ugh. It's so good. Like, us. I think Armand is my favorite character right now because him as like just from Lestat's point of view, he's such a like petulant, like annoyance. It's so funny to see him depicted like this. It's like, what is he going to say when he finds out about it? Like, Armand, shut up. Nobody's thinking about you. He's like, ugh, there is no us. We just have a text. Ugh, leave me alone. Like, it's just, that cannot be bothered.

[00:36:48] Even every time when Armand is brought up, I think when he talks about how Daniel Malloy made him, he's like the gargoyle, Armand. Like, he hates him. And I love that he hates Armand because I too hate Armand. And so more Armand on screen, please, especially from Lestat's point of view. But yeah, it overlaps with the Nikki timeline, to your point. Nikki is not gone. He's right there just playing the violin furiously and making a scene, you know. And this is, I think that's why the breakup happens.

[00:37:13] I really think this is why the badness happens is because he thought me and Lestat are going to be forever and eternity, right? I had him make me the dark gift so we could be together. Why are you up there canoodling with Armand, the same man that attacked me out in the reason why this had to, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like that's kind of where he's like, nah, you like when I play your music, F your music. I cut my arm off, you know? So that's why I enjoyed the scene because I thought there were some layers to kind of what they were saying.

[00:37:41] Not so much like, almost like some symbolism in that. Or maybe that was literally what he was doing was like, hey, the thing you loved about me the most, the music, it can't happen now because I burnt my hand off. To show you that we don't have that bond anymore. And it's not the last time he will get burned because he needs to die. He's lost his mind. They can't get through them. And Lestat doesn't have the heart to do it. And this is a pattern, Mari, in Lestat's life for the people that he make. Because he makes them and then he watches somebody else destroy them.

[00:38:13] Yeah. And Armand has done it a few times. I mean, he definitely gets credit for Claudia. And I guess technically Claudia's homegirl. Or did Louis make her? Louis made her. But Armand, I mean, killed them both. Yeah. But Lestat watched. And he watched this time as Armand burned Nikki alive as well.

[00:38:43] Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like, the gargoyle Armand. He's kind of like a gremlin or something like that. He just like really hates him. He really hates him. And I wonder if it's just like he blames Armand for this, right? Like, if it wasn't for Armand kind of being so present, you know, and then Armand is the one who actually pulled the trigger on it, right? Like, Louis wants to kill him, but he can't do it. Same thing with Claudia.

[00:39:08] Remember, we thought Lestat was complicit completely in the Claudia death. But when Lestat tells the story again, he's like, she was crying out to me. That was my child up there, you know, having that moment. And I did it. I wasn't a fan of it. Like, he had taken over people's minds. You know, Armand was doing the puppeteering at that point. Lestat was, he was in on it for sure, right? He's definitely guilty. But I think in a way, he kind of like tries to separate himself from any real blame because he's not the one who actually does it. Yeah, that's true.

[00:39:37] I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. And we didn't even get confirmation about Magnus either. Like, are we going to get confirmation? Because is Magnus dead? Like. Is Magnus dead? Right. That's what I'm saying. Like, because we didn't get confirmation of, because he always said, Magnus killed himself. Magnus walks into the fire.

[00:40:03] And if that holds true with Lestat, like we said, Lestat, we don't see him killing the people that around him that he loves. And then we have Magnus's projection come back here. I'm wondering if Magnus is actually dead or if it's like when Lestat was buried and healing from Louis and Claudia's murder attempt and he was projecting himself to Louis.

[00:40:33] That's a good point. I mean, I learned so much about just like vampire life, lifespans and kind of what can kill vampires and what can't. Even in this episode, we saw a conversation about how decapitation doesn't necessarily kill a vampire. Right. And that a vampire like Lestat could live for days without a head. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. And that if if he gets decapitated and lives and figures out a way to get back to his body, he might be fine.

[00:41:02] That's why they always say with the vampires, you remove the head and burn it. You like you remove the head, stake the heart, burn the body. Like that's normally the the one, two step you're out of here type thing. Sunlight, burning fire, you know, the ultimate destroyer destruction will normally always do it. Yeah.

[00:41:24] And I think he says to so we have to talk about the Magnus and Lestat scene because we talked about the the fake scene. Right. We talked about the telepathic scene to Daniel. But as Lestat is leaving the interview, we get him recalling the actual happenings. This was nasty business. You know, I mean, this show is very graphic.

[00:41:53] I don't remember many trigger warnings to this point. This is pretty bad. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely trigger warning for what we're about to talk about. I don't remember seeing it on the show, but the the actual graphic depiction of Lestat's assault and brutal, brutal assault and brutal sexual assault and turning.

[00:42:17] Juxtaposed with Louis reading Claudia's depiction of her sexual assault was just like, oh, my God. It was so jarring and heartbreaking and emotional and intense. And I was like, oh, my God. Like it was it was a lot. And I mean, kudos to everybody who worked on that scene.

[00:42:47] They talked about how brutal they wanted the scene to be because they they're like, we want you guys to get across that. But this was this was something that Lestat has to constantly work through, that his turning was an actual kidnapping and assault and that he he did not ask for the dark gift and all of that. So, yeah, just brutal, man.

[00:43:15] Even while he was like, even what we're seeing the way he gets the gift. Right. Not so much even just like the rape and assault. But, you know, like there there isn't a oh, drink the blood out of my wrist kind of dainty way that we've seen it done before. Magnus splits his own neck and just lets the blood just pour out of his neck like a gash. And he's like balls onto Lestat's face, like almost like, yeah, you could catch it or you could, you know, like I don't really care. You know, it's like it's so haphazard. It's like it's so much, you know what I'm saying?

[00:43:45] It's going to get in there. Yeah, exactly. He's like, oh, yeah, it's so raggedy. I think it's the lack of finesse that Magnus has that makes him an interesting character to me. Right. Because Lestat is walking finesse. He's just he's walking charisma. And Magnus does everything in just a violent, aggressive way. Right. His aesthetic is aggressive and violent looking. And Lestat is just like he makes a movie out of everything. You know, he makes like everything's a play or a scene.

[00:44:14] And yeah, this was who it's bad because it's hard to watch. Right. But I mean, the stuff that's also happening at the same exact time. Right. Louis, a whole moment that we haven't got to yet. And also Lestat's car crash. I mean, he's in an accident when he's reliving this moment. Yeah, it's one of those things.

[00:44:36] It's like the emotional hurt is so much that you kind of got to get some physical pain in there to bring you back down. That's what it felt like because it felt like once Lestat crashed that car and he walked away from it. He felt a little cathartic. And even he says, like opening these doors are bringing back all of these memories. And but he likes it because the music is what's opening it.

[00:45:05] The music is what's helping him get through it. And so it's it's so weird. It's so weird because it's it's him him facing his demons in a sense, you know, literal demons. So this this made this actually gave me a little bit more questions because even Magnus and then it was just so much information being thrown at us at one point.

[00:45:31] I went back and I watched the scene again, but it would be because I was trying to because I had I know I had to watch because I the first time I had I was I was paying attention to the stat stuff. So I was missing some of Louis stuff. So I had to go back. So when I go went back, I focused on what Louis was saying to Bruce. So, yeah, it was just so much being thrown at us. Like Magnus is like, oh, you left some details out. And again, I'm like, are you dead, sir? Like you like really dead.

[00:46:01] What are the details that he left out? I mean, other than the, you know, brutal assault. And then he said there's like this table. He said there's 68 of us. He starts naming people. I'm like, what is he talking about? I'm like, is he talking about the people who like have met the true death because of Lestat, like the other vampires? It was really interesting. Like I was, I was very like kind of confused in that moment as to what is Magnus talking about, man?

[00:46:30] He says Lestat tipped over the cobble, the collie wobble shelf onto the lawn table and took the cloth off the lawn table. We eat your soul at the lawn table. 68 courses so far. We keep waiting for the bill, but the plates keep coming and we keep asking ourselves, when is he going to make an album? Um, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what this means. Uh, I'm, I'm, I'm very much like, what do you mean by that?

[00:46:57] You know, I want, I want more information. Doesn't he start saying names too? Um, and Magnus says very odd company at the lawn table, a hand, a finger, a drummer, a pimp. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. A hand is Nicholas. A finger is Antoinette's fingers. A drummer. A drummer. There's a drummer in the band. But he didn't kill her.

[00:47:28] Not yet. Okay. Mm-hmm. A drummer. Or maybe they're, maybe they're the lovers. Louie's a pimp. Louie's not dead. Louie's a pimp. Yeah. And then, uh, Mommy and Claudia. Who's the drummer? It's gotta be the drummer. We, we only know one. The drummer of the current band? The woman? That's what I would guess. I mean, is there another drummer?

[00:48:02] Um, that said, a lot of questions come from our interaction with Magnus. But we get somewhat of a conclusion to a story that we kind of questioned last week. We talked about whether or not Louie would, uh, be taking on the killer, or killer, aka Bruce, as like the big boss. Or if that would happen swiftly. Mario, you correctly called it. Louie immediately beelines to Bruce's home. Um, kills everybody inside.

[00:48:32] Freeze the captured vampires. Don't really know why they're captured, but they are. And he frees them. Uh, uh, uh, uh, captured humans. Oh, captured humans. Yeah. He tells them that there's a great lodge down the street. Yeah. That was a human. That, when Bruce says, well, what, what did you do with the food? That they were the food. Mm-hmm. He, he gave them the Uber. Yeah. Oh, dang. Yeah. Uber eats the opposite way.

[00:48:56] So, um, so that said, Louie waits and waits and waits. And it seems like Bruce is fresh off his honeymoon when he shows up. Um, with baby jinx. With baby jinx. Yeah. Baby jinx is like, yeah, she's like, what's up? What are you doing to my husband? As Louie rips his organs out, basically. No, his vertebrae. He ripped his spine out. He ripped his spine out. Crazy. Yeah.

[00:49:24] He, he, he, he rips his spine out. So he has to sit there and listen to him. Yeah. No, this was, this was me. Hi. Hi. I'm me. I, I, I am. I love Louie. I be hate what he be doing, but this is the Louie that I love. The smoothness with which he just said, oh, hey, I want to talk to you. Right. That Creole fellow jumped right back out. Right. Yes. Head off. He's like, uh-uh, don't talk. Just telepathically. Right. Right. Where's Killer? Where's Killer? No. Okay.

[00:49:54] Knocks on the door. Jumps up. Goes through the window. People are, this, this sequence, this directing sequence was just so good. Goes through the window. People are outside. Chops off a head to the window. The head falls. Goes in. Where's Killer? Where's Killer? Are you Killer? Like, just the calmness of his voice as he is wrecking shop in this house.

[00:50:17] And they do it in such a way that is, I think we saw something a little bit reminiscent of this when they go hunting with the theater of vampires the first time. Right? When Louis and Claudia go. Yeah. Where it's like, it's implied gore and violence. Like, we know that everybody in that house is dead. And we didn't see it. But it was done in such a great way that we didn't need to see it, you know? And, yeah, like you said, Louis sits there. He waits. I wanted to know more about that wall.

[00:50:46] That, what it said, like, Armand told the truth. And I wanted to know more about that wall. Yeah. No, I'm with you on that one. Because I'm looking at it right now. And there's a lot of- It's like Vampire Lestat stuff. It's Lestat. Yeah. It's a lot of Lestat stuff. I don't know what he means by Armand told the truth, but I'm sure we'll find out one day. Yeah. But, yeah. So, Bruce comes in. Louis rips his spine out.

[00:51:15] Like, and so that he has to sit there. And Louis produces those four pages that we know was missing from Claudia's diary. And as he sits there and reads those four pages, that was like- I was- I didn't like that. Like, I mean, you know, I'm not supposed to. Like, I viscerally, like- Not I didn't like the scene and all that. But, like, what he was saying, that was so visceral.

[00:51:42] And listening to her decount and detail her assault. And for it to end with it, well, for it to almost end with, like, I thought I was the monster in the shadow. Like, the realization, even as a woman vampire, that there's always somebody more horrendous than you. Like, not even- Claudia not even being turned into a vampire made her safe from rape and assault. And that is-

[00:52:11] That was terrifying. And her saying that she was nothing and wanted to be nothing was- I hated every second of it. I honestly wanted Louis to make Bruce suffer a little bit more, to be quite honest. Not a tit-for-tat thing, but, like, he could have broke his legs a little bit more. Like, kind of, like, broke every bone in his body before he- Right. Take your time with it, Louis. Yeah, take your time.

[00:52:40] But I guess setting him on fire, that's not fun. But, yeah. But Louis gets- Louis takes Bruce out. I'm surprised he didn't take baby Jinx out. I'm wondering if she's gonna come back down the line. I'm sure she would. Because she met Lestat once, right, and had a conversation with him. And so she's in both of their- They're both of their timelines.

[00:53:04] And so I think because of that, we definitely are probably gonna see her again. She was the one who set up Lestat. Mm-hmm. Yeah, she was the- She was the bait. So, yeah, this is bad. I don't know. Like, as a TV show, you know, like, your mileage may vary on this kind of content. Not for me, personally. Louis, I feel like the scene, to me, just a pitch long. Pitch long. You know, like, I didn't need to sit in all of that, right? Like, don't get me wrong.

[00:53:34] Louis killing Bruce. Inject that into my veins. But it's the conversation he's having with Bruce, right? The reading of Claudia's words. The retelling of the things that he did. I mean, it's very graphic. And then while it's happening, if you can separate yourself from that, you still have to watch, physically watch, the vision of Lestat being raped. And, like, and being assaulted. Yeah. You know, whatever. And being turned. And so it's like, if you can separate yourself from the Claudia,

[00:54:03] you look at, you hear the Claudia story, but you see the Lestat story. And so it's hitting you from both sides. Mm-hmm. Great TV. Make no mistake. But, whew, it's a lot. So- Exactly. Exactly. It's a lot. You're being assaulted, oh, God, on all sides with this. Yeah. You can't even, you can't escape it. And so that was a big moment.

[00:54:32] We get another scene toward the end of the episode, because Lestat is still performing. He's still doing his music thing. He goes to, he does his concert. And the band that did not run out on him, they're still there, right? And they're kind of into it. Lestat has told them his secrets. And so now he's being a little loose with the way he's performing. We had kind of speculated last time if, you know, his flight was something that, you know, it was going to be like the theater of the Vampire. Like, oh, it's cables. It's wires. You know, it's supposed to be smoke and mirror.

[00:55:02] He's flying in front of these people at this point. The band knows it. The people in the crowd don't know it. They think it's his special effects or whatever the case may be. And the entire band is so hype about this. But there's still one person missing. Alex ain't there. And he went to a meeting, as they thought he would, because he has an addiction. So he goes to the meeting. And he's telling a vague version of what it is like, what he's going through, right?

[00:55:30] And it's right now, it's mostly FOMO. You know, he knows that the band is going off and they are mildly successful without him. He also knows he's one of the better musicians, if not the second best next to Lestat. And so this is essentially his band. He was the front man at one point. And he has to watch them as they live the life that he could easily be living if he was just okay with being in the same proximity as this vampire.

[00:55:59] And after he tells his story, we pan to the right to find out who wants to go next at this meeting. And Mari, wouldn't you know it? It's Arun, a.k.a. Armand. Now, what the hell is he doing here? I don't know. Armand is weird, bro. You are weird. Bro, weirdo. Weird energy. Weird energy. Yeah. Very weird. Like, what?

[00:56:26] It's like, like, now it puts into perspective of, like, his relationship with Louis. It feels like Armand wants to take everything that Lestat has or something like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, he or be in Lestat's aura. I don't know. It's just weird, to say the least. I don't know where this is going. I don't. What do you think his purpose is being in the room now? Like, why is he here? I don't know. Like, I really don't.

[00:56:54] Like, I don't know. Are you going to try and get more info? Are you trying to get info out of Alex about, like, what Lestat is doing or whatever? I mean, it's not hard to find Lestat. He's on tour. Go buy a ticket. Like, what do you? Yeah. You know? I don't know. I don't know. It makes no sense to me. I think Alex might be in danger. You know? Oh, yeah. You in danger, girl. You in danger, girl. You in danger, girl. Mm-hmm. Because, like you said, it's not hard to find out what Lestat's up to. I mean, he's all over the place.

[00:57:25] There's a book written about him as well. You know? So there's that. I mean, there's a band with his name on it. So there's that. But you just walked into a room with Alex who's very vulnerable. And I bet it'd be very easy to read his mind. So you're not there for information. Right? You don't need to be in that room for information. I think he's trying to get to Alex to make Alex do something. I don't know if he plans on turning Alex. Alex. Um, I don't really know. But I think Alex is about to become a pawn in whatever Armand is doing.

[00:57:53] Because otherwise, I have no earthly idea why Armand could be just hanging out at an AA meeting. I know. I know. And I mean, like, again, Armand is not. He basically turned Daniel Malloy out of spite for Louis. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't. Armand is just unhinged. I don't know what his motivations are.

[00:58:23] Hopefully we'll find out next episode. So, um, is there anything else from this episode that we didn't talk about? The only, the only thing, uh, is after Louis, uh, leaves from slaughtering those vampires, uh, Lemuel, shout out to the Esquire. He's like, babe, you good? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, thank you. But Louis' lying ass said, oh yeah, uh, I just gotta make a stop over here real quick. And where does Louis go?

[00:58:52] He drives his ass to New York. Which is, that's very far from Detroit. Maybe he flew and then drove, you know, whatever. But he went to New York. Yeah, because he doesn't have the cloud gift, right? New York's not that far from Toronto, though. But he had to go to Detroit to kill, um, what's his name? Yeah. Mm-hmm. How far is Detroit from New York? Detroit to New York is probably about, like, seven to eight hours.

[00:59:23] Oh, yeah. Louis probably made that. Detroit to, Detroit to D.C. is about a nine, ten hour drive. That man ran on water when he wanted to go have sex with Lestat after he heard that, um, that diss track. Um, after he heard that song from, that song that Lestat had gave, had played for Nicki, I believe. Right. Um, or no, he had Antoinette singing on it. That's what it was. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, he ran across the water for that. I think it was, I think Louis can get to New York as fast as he wants.

[00:59:53] Um, but he gets there and, uh, he goes and sits at this diner. We heard this story before that there's a woman there that really reminds him of Claudia. Is this the same actress? I, I think so. I would assume, uh, what, Delaney, maybe? Delaney, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think that's the same actress, man. It was just, I know, Justice for Claudia. It was, it was so, it was so cute in a sad way. Like, after doing what he did, Louis just needed to be in the presence of somebody who

[01:00:23] reminded him of his, his sister, daughter, daughter, sister, you know? Um, and it was, that was just, that, that tugged on the heartstrings, you know? No. Killing Bruce didn't give him the closure he thought it would have, you know? He still, he still has that yearning feeling, right? Like, I think he goes to murder him because he's like, he, he needs to put that story to rest, but it's still there. It's still there. Um, yeah, it's tough. It's tough to see Louis kind of going through.

[01:00:51] Love Louis, but, uh, he even put through the ringer a little bit. I don't really know what's next for him now because that was his side mission. Um, so I don't know how much more Louis has to do in this, uh, season, um, because this is the vampire Lestat story. Um, but I, I like that we've got to spend these three episodes at least with Louis in and out. Um, yeah. Yeah. But so there you go. It's like season two. Lestat wasn't there for most of it. And then he comes back.

[01:01:20] So like, I love that they can come in and out and you don't really feel like you're, you're losing them, you know? Yeah. So, uh, this was such a fun conversation about such a dark episode of TV. Um, yeah, but I've done a lot. I'm excited. I need the next episode. I'm ready. These episodes are so good, man. They are so good. Like this, this is such good TV.

[01:01:49] It is so much more than like gay vampires. It truly is. It's, it's so good. Um, one thing we really didn't flag up was that, uh, Daniel Malloy, he does get a good hate into Lestat from Lestat's point of view at this point. Um, because Lestat's not playing ballroom. And he kills a random person? I think so. And then on top of that, um, he also is kind of picking up on the Gabriella story. You know, I think he's starting to put his piece together that Sophia might not be who she seems. Um, yeah.

[01:02:19] But, but, uh, Lestat kind of quickly lies to him and like, oh yeah, she just didn't make it through toddlerism. You know, as a vampire, it's tough. Um, my mom died, blah, blah, blah. I feel like, I feel like Daniel Malloy is a savvy enough journalist to where he'll get to the bottom of that soon enough. Yeah. Soon enough. I agree. I agree. All right. So that was episode three of the Vampire Lestat recapped here on recapfeedback.com. Such a fun time. Make sure you leave us a comment. Let us know what you think about this episode of TV. Are you loving it? Are you hating it? Did you, were you able to do that?

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